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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th "No it doesn't. Lol   | |||
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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th "There's not a ban, just need to prove you're 18 or over, in the same way as if you entered a sex shop to buy a DVD | |||
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"Ye sorry lol.i meant the age thing will come into effect from july 15th" And why is that something to be sad about? P | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! " —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. " What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? | |||
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"Will it affect us access to Fab forum?" I think it will miss ladyk x | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh?" How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. | |||
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"I don’t see a problem with the concept of an age verification for porn sites at all. " True but its being financed by a porn company so they will hold your data and credit card deets. No secure connection encryption requirements and vpn can be used to bypass anyhow. No one is opposing publically except Myles Jackson Obscenity Lawyer as far as i know, if laws are being written without full consultation which concerns free speech this isnt progress Any ideas what would work as opposed to the current setup? | |||
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"I don’t see a problem with the concept of an age verification for porn sites at all. True but its being financed by a porn company so they will hold your data and credit card deets. No secure connection encryption requirements and vpn can be used to bypass anyhow. No one is opposing publically except Myles Jackson Obscenity Lawyer as far as i know, if laws are being written without full consultation which concerns free speech this isnt progress Any ideas what would work as opposed to the current setup? " I think the onus needs to be on service providers. Vodafone already run something similar for their mobile data service - you have to prove you are over 18 to switch it off. Atleast a service provider is someone you already trust (well relatively so!) to hold your personal details as opposed to a porn site! | |||
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"I don’t see a problem with the concept of an age verification for porn sites at all. True but its being financed by a porn company so they will hold your data and credit card deets. No secure connection encryption requirements and vpn can be used to bypass anyhow. No one is opposing publically except Myles Jackson Obscenity Lawyer as far as i know, if laws are being written without full consultation which concerns free speech this isnt progress Any ideas what would work as opposed to the current setup? I think the onus needs to be on service providers. Vodafone already run something similar for their mobile data service - you have to prove you are over 18 to switch it off. Atleast a service provider is someone you already trust (well relatively so!) to hold your personal details as opposed to a porn site!" Yes Talk mobile also ask you to unblock porn, Tesco Mobile dont | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine." It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. | |||
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"Good idea proving age as have a 10 year old lol. But surely perents should moniter that shit. Is there a decent vpn on play store" As long as they do not get hold of your driving licence, passport or credit card. I downloaded Hotspot VPN lite app. So far so good. | |||
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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th "Technically I'm a teenager, I was born on the 29th of February. What's stopping a child using their parents or another adults ID. Credit card even driving licence. What happens if your purse or wallet is lost and stolen, found by or nicked by a kid. Plus they must have everyone's details already to verify you're who you say you are. Question is how did they get those details in the first place? For example if the police stop and check your car insurance they rely on a database to check it. Now that an independent company has your details what's stopping Ying Tang in Taiwan hacking that company and getting your details? Sounds a dodgy setup. My advice is don't sign up for anything on line and go back to buying DVDs or make your own porn. Maybe forget porn at get on fabswingers and have real sex. You can still be a voyuer, it'll be better than 3d TV. The off shoot it should boost swinger club attendance, ding, start your own club.  | |||
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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th
Technically I'm a teenager, I was born on the 29th of February.
What's stopping a child using their parents or another adults ID. Credit card even driving licence. What happens if your purse or wallet is lost and stolen, found by or nicked by a kid.
Plus they must have everyone's details already to verify you're who you say you are. Question is how did they get those details in the first place?
For example if the police stop and check your car insurance they rely on a database to check it.
Now that an independent company has your details what's stopping Ying Tang in Taiwan hacking that company and getting your details?
Sounds a dodgy setup. My advice is don't sign up for anything on line and go back to buying DVDs or make your own porn.
Maybe forget porn at get on fabswingers
and have real sex. You can still be a voyuer, it'll be better than 3d TV.
The off shoot it should boost swinger club attendance, ding, start your own club.
"Now we'll get a rash of under4ge sex because kids can't see the forbidden fruit, they gonna be doing it for real still. Will be interesting seeing the stats after this pans out over a few years. With shit sex education in schools loads of underage pregnancies. Not that porn deterrs that. But a wank a day keeps the stork away, just saying. Also some adults reluctant to give details will now get sexually frustrated and r4pe , sex attacks will go up. It won't stop kids watching DVDs getting magazines from various sources or doing it for real. Whoever thought this one up is living in cloud cookoo land. Or a schemer..... They're all schemers with a dodgy plan like Harvey Dent. Do I look like a person with a plan. I just let things happen it's more fun. Ha ha ha ....ha ha....ha.  | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. " It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh?" ————————- If you think porn is seriously a useful tool for sex education for children then there is something wrong with you. I also wonder why you think sex education in schools is “shit”. Are you in the education profession or are you just talking about your own experiences?. Actually I read this week that it is getting a review. But to say porn is a substitute is frankly laughable. Yes I have heard of Mindgeek, but as far as I am aware that is not the only way planned for ID proof. But to say it is just something to “make the rich richer” or whatever nonsense you did say, simply exposes your prejudices and the fact that you haven’t thought the whole thing through. If there is to be a registration system then somehow it has to be paid for. Whatever the flaws I think this is a step in the right direction if it stops, as intended, my young children accidentally stumbling across porn. Of course it can be circumvented, but I don’t know why people have to be negative about something which will do, at lest, SOME good. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. " ———/———- “Sure they can get unrealistic expectations” And THAT is the whole point which you blithely shrug off. Truly frightening. Do you have children? | |||
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"Why does anyone think it might work?. One kid at school who has access, sends to all the others. Can anybody think of a time, where restricted access or prohibition have ever worked? "Yes kids will still be able to access it via a backdoor route. But it makes it MUCH harder for most underage kids - right now you can pick up just about any phone or tablet and access hardcore pornography with a couple of clicks. I really don’t understand why people are against making it harder for kids to access pornography?! | |||
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"Shouldnt sex ed be taught by parents? And as parents to a teenager. Are most not as capable of using TOR and vpns bypassing this? Think it just a moneymaking idea." I agree, internet accounts have filter blocks for stopping this very thing. It's a ploy to spy on people,info gathering and erosion of civil liberties. So open to abuse too, if the pentagon can get hacked so can Mindgeek the company administrating it. You can just visualise the headlines. "Porn administrator hacked thousands of people's details abused" I don't trust it. As for kids there's always a few artful dodgers who get round these systems just needs one to get a few downloads and send them to mates. The scheme won't have a positive effect. Baron Bomburst had the right idea take the toys from the kids. Bring back the workhouse. | |||
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"Why does anyone think it might work?. One kid at school who has access, sends to all the others. Can anybody think of a time, where restricted access or prohibition have ever worked?
Yes kids will still be able to access it via a backdoor route. But it makes it MUCH harder for most underage kids - right now you can pick up just about any phone or tablet and access hardcore pornography with a couple of clicks.
I really don’t understand why people are against making it harder for kids to access pornography?! "Yes its easy to see porn. As a dad, i spoke to my child and said it was there and that a lot of people look at it. I also said its not real sex, just like "die hard with bruce willis is not real. I explained it was there just to titalate and shock. I personally don't like porn but people want to see it. Have you seen whats app, it's how kids swap porn. How would me proving I'm half a century old stop that?  | |||
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"Why does anyone think it might work?. One kid at school who has access, sends to all the others. Can anybody think of a time, where restricted access or prohibition have ever worked?
Yes kids will still be able to access it via a backdoor route. But it makes it MUCH harder for most underage kids - right now you can pick up just about any phone or tablet and access hardcore pornography with a couple of clicks.
I really don’t understand why people are against making it harder for kids to access pornography?! "Is clicking a few buttons that much harder? Only got to download things to get past. Take about a minute. Believe as a parent it ours and every others to monitor what our children do online. Not the government. Using basic filters stops them accessing. Our youngest 11. Educate computer skills since younger to help later on in life and to improve over the years. More than capable of bypassing the need for porn pass. Our responsibility to monitor and talk about what children do and see. So what will the porn pass do? Make people money and monitor them maybe. It will educate children more in good and bad ways. Good in that it will improve basic computer skills of children as they adapt. Bad in it will expose children to places where porn sites are not regulated. | |||
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"Will it affect us access to Fab forum? I think it will miss ladyk x" Only for those who can’t prove they’re over 18 though, surely? And if that’s the case then I can’t see a problem unless people want to chat with children on here. Lou | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh?" Porn social media sites won't appear. The rule that says twitter, Facebook, reddit etc are not covered because less than a third of the content is porn. By creating a porn social media site then you woukd expect the amount of content to be mostly porn. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? Porn social media sites won't appear. The rule that says twitter, Facebook, reddit etc are not covered because less than a third of the content is porn. By creating a porn social media site then you woukd expect the amount of content to be mostly porn. " Yeah been reading up on it more since the thread started  | |||
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"I don't think it'll make a bit of difference to minors access to porn. Anyway at 18 does porn stop harming people. I was proud having a relationship with my child where we could talk about things like this. I kept track of the Internet access. Did once find "big boobed girls" in Google once...... Normal young guy growing up. Education not legislation is a better route. A parent's responsibility " Government aswell, they'r get taught how to use computer's in school, what are they telling them or not telling them regarding this subject. It's smacks a great opportunity for them to spy on people's viewing habits apart from the obvious personal detail info gathering. Watch how many people stop using the internet when vpn's get hacked. The paranoia will extend into all peoples internet viewing habits, buying habits. I'm finding it hilarious the government think it will work positively. Their perception of the workings of the internet are incredibly antiquated and underestimate kids ability to bypass blocked access. Me? I just won't watch porn. Like I don't go to London city any more. | |||
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"Studies have shown that kids are more at risk (80%+) of exposure (especially unsolicited) on social media sites like facebook/snap/insta, yet these sites are exempt from age verification, how many times have you heard of kids being targeted on facebook by nonces. It deosn't take long to find porn groups on there either. All this will do is drive porn deeper underground and trigger the next wave of encryption as the new generation of youngters deftly circumvent restrictions, leaving the gullible adult users on databases all over the world to be used against them at a later date. I recently re-watched 1984, looking at the comparisons of this prophetic 1956 film it's not unthinkable that your online use at some point will make you eligible for 'reconditioning' in the future. And then they give the keys to this gateway of porn to the biggest porn site owners mindgeek... the mind boggles
Next will be social indexing like they're trialling in China"Very true. My son was learning coding at school at 10yrs old. At 8yrs he was more computer literate than me. Whilst I was growing up, porn was totally illegal (page 3 only) we used to share hardcore magazines at school. Never stopped us... so..this won't work.Don't underestimate a horny teenager. Wonder when the "admin charge" is gonna start?..... | |||
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"I will always use VPN my mum used it for year in Bulgaria to watch English TV and now I use it for torrents of my favourite American TV shows. So I probably just carry on with that. Porn on mobile phone now this is interesting unless things have changed. When I took out new contracts in the old days I had to call three in India and ask the nice Indian lady that I would like to be able to access adult material. So mobile phones should be almost impossible for kids to access porn unless they install a VPN or parents are stupid enough to unlock the porn. " Or go on Snapchat or what's app or Facebook or get films on phones passed round at school or make their own. Speak to a child and ask them, how easy it is going to be. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. " Yes, maybe they do already,as they need a data base already to check against, like the police checking car insurance they work off a pre made data base. | |||
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"Studies have shown that kids are more at risk (80%+) of exposure (especially unsolicited) on social media sites like facebook/snap/insta, yet these sites are exempt from age verification, how many times have you heard of kids being targeted on facebook by nonces. It deosn't take long to find porn groups on there either. All this will do is drive porn deeper underground and trigger the next wave of encryption as the new generation of youngters deftly circumvent restrictions, leaving the gullible adult users on databases all over the world to be used against them at a later date. I recently re-watched 1984, looking at the comparisons of this prophetic 1956 film it's not unthinkable that your online use at some point will make you eligible for 'reconditioning' in the future. And then they give the keys to this gateway of porn to the biggest porn site owners mindgeek... the mind boggles
Next will be social indexing like they're trialling in China
Very true. My son was learning coding at school at 10yrs old. At 8yrs he was more computer literate than me. Whilst I was growing up, porn was totally illegal (page 3 only) we used to share hardcore magazines at school. Never stopped us... so..this won't work.Don't underestimate a horny teenager. Wonder when the "admin charge" is gonna start?.....
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"Good idea proving age as have a 10 year old lol. But surely perents should moniter that shit. Is there a decent vpn on play store" I've used Turbo VPN. For a few years and never had any issues. I travel and so needed it for uk Netflix and other uk based subscriptions etc when away. I watched the rugby on it and had no lag issues. There is a built in VPN in Opera. This is handy too. | |||
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"Why does anyone think it might work?. One kid at school who has access, sends to all the others. Can anybody think of a time, where restricted access or prohibition have ever worked?
Yes kids will still be able to access it via a backdoor route. But it makes it MUCH harder for most underage kids - right now you can pick up just about any phone or tablet and access hardcore pornography with a couple of clicks.
I really don’t understand why people are against making it harder for kids to access pornography?!
Is clicking a few buttons that much harder?
Only got to download things to get past. Take about a minute.
Believe as a parent it ours and every others to monitor what our children do online. Not the government.
Using basic filters stops them accessing.
Our youngest 11. Educate computer skills since younger to help later on in life and to improve over the years. More than capable of bypassing the need for porn pass. Our responsibility to monitor and talk about what children do and see.
So what will the porn pass do? Make people money and monitor them maybe.
It will educate children more in good and bad ways.
Good in that it will improve basic computer skills of children as they adapt.
Bad in it will expose children to places where porn sites are not regulated."It's not the stopping kids viewing bit the problem, it's the handing over your personal details to someone you don't know in the process. I don't know anyone in the VPN companies so why should I give em my credit card details. I just won't watch porn online. I was trying to watch a YouTube music video and VPN advert popped up first that pissed me right off. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging." As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab | |||
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"When I was in China last I used a VPN to access blocked sites such as the BBC to tunnel through the Great Firewall and appear to the BBC I was dialing in from the UK. So a good reputable VPN will allow people too access porn without giving any personal or bank details by allowing them to appear to be dialing in from Europe." I wouldn't trust a reputable VPN either. | |||
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"Studies have shown that kids are more at risk (80%+) of exposure (especially unsolicited) on social media sites like facebook/snap/insta, yet these sites are exempt from age verification, how many times have you heard of kids being targeted on facebook by nonces. It deosn't take long to find porn groups on there either. All this will do is drive porn deeper underground and trigger the next wave of encryption as the new generation of youngters deftly circumvent restrictions, leaving the gullible adult users on databases all over the world to be used against them at a later date. I recently re-watched 1984, looking at the comparisons of this prophetic 1956 film it's not unthinkable that your online use at some point will make you eligible for 'reconditioning' in the future. And then they give the keys to this gateway of porn to the biggest porn site owners mindgeek... the mind boggles
Next will be social indexing like they're trialling in China
Very true. My son was learning coding at school at 10yrs old. At 8yrs he was more computer literate than me. Whilst I was growing up, porn was totally illegal (page 3 only) we used to share hardcore magazines at school. Never stopped us... so..this won't work.Don't underestimate a horny teenager. Wonder when the "admin charge" is gonna start?.....
"I read there WILL be a charge for this registration and that there are plans to make it like pay-per-view. It's going to kill the genuine online porn industry and We hope you all realise it's going to kill Fabswingers as we know it. The aim was to protect kids but it will have the opposite effect and put them in even more danger as alternative routes emerge, probably on the exempt social media sites. We have the 2nd most heavily censored internet in the world and the 8th most corrupt government. What a shame | |||
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"Why does anyone think it might work?. One kid at school who has access, sends to all the others. Can anybody think of a time, where restricted access or prohibition have ever worked?
Yes kids will still be able to access it via a backdoor route. But it makes it MUCH harder for most underage kids - right now you can pick up just about any phone or tablet and access hardcore pornography with a couple of clicks.
I really don’t understand why people are against making it harder for kids to access pornography?!
Is clicking a few buttons that much harder?
Only got to download things to get past. Take about a minute.
Believe as a parent it ours and every others to monitor what our children do online. Not the government.
Using basic filters stops them accessing.
Our youngest 11. Educate computer skills since younger to help later on in life and to improve over the years. More than capable of bypassing the need for porn pass. Our responsibility to monitor and talk about what children do and see.
So what will the porn pass do? Make people money and monitor them maybe.
It will educate children more in good and bad ways.
Good in that it will improve basic computer skills of children as they adapt.
Bad in it will expose children to places where porn sites are not regulated.
It's not the stopping kids viewing bit the problem, it's the handing over your personal details to someone you don't know in the process.
I don't know anyone in the VPN companies so why should I give em my credit card details.
I just won't watch porn online.
I was trying to watch a YouTube music video and VPN advert popped up first that pissed me right off."I pay my vpn with PayPal. £2 a month. It works well too. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab "Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule! | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab
Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it
And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule! "Errrr... An#%Al farm was always doing the rounds. I kinda understood, not to treat farmyard stock like that.... And if I was the exception, I'd be the kid at school who send to a couple of mates who would send to a couple of mates... As you probably guessed, I am very wary of censorship. In an ideal world, porn wouldn't exist..but since a man drew a dick on a cave wall, and discovered people liked looking at it, it's always been there and always will. Educate kids and explain about sex and porn. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab
Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it
And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule!
Errrr... An#%Al farm was always doing the rounds. I kinda understood, not to treat farmyard stock like that.... And if I was the exception, I'd be the kid at school who send to a couple of mates who would send to a couple of mates... As you probably guessed, I am very wary of censorship. In an ideal world, porn wouldn't exist..but since a man drew a dick on a cave wall, and discovered people liked looking at it, it's always been there and always will. Educate kids and explain about sex and porn. "Beastiality isn’t hardcore, it’s illegal. It’s not comparable | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab
Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it
And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule!
Errrr... An#%Al farm was always doing the rounds. I kinda understood, not to treat farmyard stock like that.... And if I was the exception, I'd be the kid at school who send to a couple of mates who would send to a couple of mates... As you probably guessed, I am very wary of censorship. In an ideal world, porn wouldn't exist..but since a man drew a dick on a cave wall, and discovered people liked looking at it, it's always been there and always will. Educate kids and explain about sex and porn. "I agree educate the kids, they don't teach about the emotional aspect either. Or having a proper relationship. When I was at school it was like a science project, without the practical homework I may add, the disecting a frog bit gross and legendary feered by all. I had a crush on my female English teacher, oh and Anita Harris. Saw Women in Love on TV and a lads porn mag at school and that was it. The frog disecting turned out to be hilarious when we found out they can change sex. Kind of got of the point of it all. | |||
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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th "It is not a ban, "Age checks will be introduced in an attempt to protect kids from discovering hardcore pornography websites." It is there is stop kids watching porn and becoming brainwashed that all women are cock sucking sluts. I think it is a great idea. | |||
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"Porn ban is to come into effect on july 15th
It is not a ban,
"Age checks will be introduced in an attempt to protect kids from discovering hardcore pornography websites." It is there is stop kids watching porn and becoming brainwashed that all women are cock sucking sluts. I think it is a great idea."I wouldn't trust a VPN , they can be hacked too. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab
Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it
And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule!
Errrr... An#%Al farm was always doing the rounds. I kinda understood, not to treat farmyard stock like that.... And if I was the exception, I'd be the kid at school who send to a couple of mates who would send to a couple of mates... As you probably guessed, I am very wary of censorship. In an ideal world, porn wouldn't exist..but since a man drew a dick on a cave wall, and discovered people liked looking at it, it's always been there and always will. Educate kids and explain about sex and porn.
Beastiality isn’t hardcore, it’s illegal. It’s not comparable "Rightfully so... But its legal in several us states and many countries in Europe, most of Asia and Africa.....that is why it is online...(worldwide web). As for not classing this as ultra hardcore..???? Its swapped on many social media sites in this country. Me paying to register won't stop this. Lots of beheading are on them too. Personally Im not keen on porn(boring) but you gotta stop and think.. Not kneejerk reactions. | |||
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"kids will just use vpns to watch porn, its a source of education, albeit distorted due to the shit sex ed we have in schools. Its just another money grabbing scheme by the rich, The company that control ageID (the age verifaction site being used) also controls the biggest porn websites, pornhub etc and will just charge crazy figures to competitors. This doesn't apply to social media sites so who knows maybe there will be a bunch of porn social media sites popping up! —————————— Goodness me what a load of tosh. What parts exactly? Porn being a source of education for teens growing up? Or perhaps AgeID Who has been paid by the government to setup and implement this ageID? It's a company called MindGeek. Mindgeek is the owner of a large number of porn sites. this doesnt apply to social media sites? Yeah porn on twitter is still allowed. Could you elaborate on which you think is tosh? How on Earth is it a form of education? Education into unrealistic expectations of what real sex and real bodies look like? This is the first generation growing up with this level of access to free pornography. The rest of us before managed to figure it out just fine. It's a form of education, Sure they can get unrealistic expectations. but they can still learn positions, more about their sexuality. What stimulates them visually. older generations talk about dirty magazines. It's a similar principle! Either way the block wont be effective for minors but the sites will now have alot more data on us. It’s entirely different. Dirty magazines are basically softcore. A few saucy pictures of someone with no clothes on. These days young kids have free access to the most extreme hardcore pornographers imaginable. It’s not an education, it’s damaging. As for softcore magazines, back in the seventies, I remember seeing ultra hardcore pics in smuggled in magazines. As for being damaging, you could be right.... I ended up joining fab
Ultra hardcore? Really? Like the kind of abusive porn that’s readily accessible on the internet? I very much doubt it
And if you did it was very much the exception not the rule!
Errrr... An#%Al farm was always doing the rounds. I kinda understood, not to treat farmyard stock like that.... And if I was the exception, I'd be the kid at school who send to a couple of mates who would send to a couple of mates... As you probably guessed, I am very wary of censorship. In an ideal world, porn wouldn't exist..but since a man drew a dick on a cave wall, and discovered people liked looking at it, it's always been there and always will. Educate kids and explain about sex and porn.
Beastiality isn’t hardcore, it’s illegal. It’s not comparable
Rightfully so... But its legal in several us states and many countries in Europe, most of Asia and Africa.....that is why it is online...(worldwide web). As for not classing this as ultra hardcore..???? Its swapped on many social media sites in this country. Me paying to register won't stop this. Lots of beheading are on them too. Personally Im not keen on porn(boring) but you gotta stop and think.. Not kneejerk reactions. "I totally agree. I'd rather sacrifice watching porn and not give my details to a protection raquet. It smacks of carrot n donkey syndrome. People are probably being setup for a fall by registering. | |||
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