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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. " +1 | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. " I have sex without my Master there.. its the cuddles and sleeping with someone else I have the issue with.. the sex bit.. well 14 guys in a week 8 of which recorded for master to watch when he had a moment.. So forget the sex bit.. talking about the spending the night with someone not your partner. Cali | |||
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"Some people are just more tactile than others…. and need it for the boat to float." I get that.. I find some guys dont want to meet on quicky meets because I basically wont kiss etc.. but maybe I hold it dear to my heart.. but no matter how good the fun.. how much I may have just snogged the face off someone.. After the sex.. its time for me to be with my partner... I know some people want the touching before and after.. but even if it was a long way.. I cant see why you would go without your partner.. why not both book into the hotel.. then meet up after.. I would miss the reclaim sex to much for a start.. lol cali | |||
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" I would miss the reclaim sex to much for a start.. lol cali " I might add that the whole night away from each other can intensify the whole reclaim sex pmsl | |||
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" I would miss the reclaim sex to much for a start.. lol cali I might add that the whole night away from each other can intensify the whole reclaim sex pmsl " I spend most of my week away from the man I love.. I know how it can enhance it.. I just mean actually sharing the bed with another for the whole night.. I have said to a regular that he could stop over but he would get the sofa.. not in my bed.. Same as if I went to a couples house I would always make sure I could get back.. even at 2am I know its each to their own but for me.. if I ever wanted to spend a whole night with another.. I would think that my relationship was breaking.. because I can not imagine anything worse than waking up and the man next to me isnt my Master. Cali | |||
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"If they fart less than Kate, I'd be up for it " hahaha.. just made me laugh out loud bless ya Jack cali | |||
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"I see a guy regularly and i always wanted more than the couple of hours i got with him but when i got the chance to spend a night with him, it totally freaked me out, i spent all night nearly falling off the bed, wide awake and gave up at 5am and decided to go home. It just felt totally alien not to be asleep next to my hubby and cuddled up, and even though i have good sex with him I just couldn't relax enough to fall asleep next to him. Was a very odd experience, one i won't be repeating with anyone " | |||
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"So those for and against and on the fence.. " against, but each to their own as they say lol | |||
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"I know of a cuckold couple where the wife brings her playmates home, relegates her husband to the spare room for the night and sleeps in the marital bed. I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". " but thats a lifestyle thing and part of his kink... Actually to be fair the guy on the other thread actually went on to expand that he was a cuck husband which then made sense. and I can still find things odd.. not wrong.. wrong for my relationship yes... but I ask things to expand my knowledge mostly Cali | |||
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"Ive stayed out Shes stayed out We stayed together after a three with the other person Not really an issue here xx " You make it sound like the hokey y | |||
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" I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". " I have to admit, you are not alone in that thought. I was in two minds as to whether to post the following, but here goes and I hope it is taken in the spirit it is intended. I can understand one half of a couple spending the night with a playmate. I can understand it on practical and physical levels, just as much as I can understand it making some couples feel uneasy to say the least. I’ll be really honest Cali, I can understand it far more than I can understand some of the things you do in the name of obeying your master. I have tried, believe me I have, but I can only relate to them (or rather the motivation behind some of the activities) if I think of them in terms of variations on self harming. So I guess it just goes beyond my understanding. Baring in mind the (what some would call) extremes you find perfectly normal in terms of sexual indulgence, it makes it all the more surprising you can’t manage to get your head around this one. | |||
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" Baring in mind the (what some would call) extremes you find perfectly normal in terms of sexual indulgence, it makes it all the more surprising you can’t manage to get your head around this one. " ahhh but you see on this.. a lot of perfectly "normal" people are in agreement with me Dear god.. does that mean I have some normal thoughts.. Think I need to sit down for a bit.. To be honest as I said.. I can understand spending the night if its not in the same room.. just not spending the night with someone your not in love with.. but then.. neither would I spend hours having sex with someone I wasnt in love with.. so I keep my fucks quicker and save the all night romps for the man that I love.. Cali | |||
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" ahhh but you see on this.. a lot of perfectly "normal" people are in agreement with me " And you also realise many (if not most) of those "normal" people will not understand the point of having sex with other people if it is just in, out, done, next. | |||
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"Ive stayed out Shes stayed out We stayed together after a three with the other person Not really an issue here xx You make it sound like the hokey y " And thats what its all about xx | |||
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" And you also realise many (if not most) of those "normal" people will not understand the point of having sex with other people if it is just in, out, done, next. " and also a hell of a lot do.. but we are not discussing my kinks.. we are discussing spending the night with someone not your partner.. and many are in agreement.. So please stay on topic and dont make it personal. cali | |||
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"I know of a cuckold couple where the wife brings her playmates home, relegates her husband to the spare room for the night and sleeps in the marital bed. I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". " To be honest Sassy I've given up being surprised..... | |||
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"I know of a cuckold couple where the wife brings her playmates home, relegates her husband to the spare room for the night and sleeps in the marital bed. I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". To be honest Sassy I've given up being surprised....." lol | |||
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"As I said I was in two minds about posting and I hoped it was taken in the spirit it was intended... that is to use actual examples you would hopefully better relate to.... and nothing which you hadn't chosen to share on the forum. The thing which is confusing me now is this comment about people areeing with you... I don't get why that's so important. It's either somwthing which works for a couple or it doesn't, much like swinging clubs, 3somes with single guys, soft swing and many more variations." the comment about people agreeing was in direct response to yours saying people wouldnt understand my kinks.. It was meant in humour.. that omg.. people were in agreement with me .. It is each to their own.. I enjoy things that a) I cant mention on here but b) neither would I want to as its personal to me and my Master. I can share any part of my life, except that one thing.. and I think that is why.. It does not seem I am alone but I have appreciated hearing others _iews.. And its always nice to see why people do or dont do things.. The difference with people saying they cant understand why I dont get something.. is I can get that people dont like/get/understand my choices.. but doesnt mean I can think the way they can... I am always happy to look at how someone else thinks... and have on some things even come to realise that actually maybe I was wrong to think like that.. or act like that.. Sometimes someone can say something and you think actually.. they have a good point..and other times I think.. thats fine for you but not for me.. Cali | |||
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"I am sure people sleep over not to lay in a mans arms but shagged out .. after lots of sex . " Like your thinking Jo!! | |||
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"some may think that just needing to have sex with others in your marrage means your lacking something in your relationship Me personally i think its whatever works for you If that means a quicky with someone else or a whole night with someone else, so long as thew couple has set their boundaries and are happy i cant see a problem " When like us married over 25 years we know each other well ..... and like good friends too .... I am lucky as i am free .. married but free and thats how i love living no one own me not even john .. yes we love each other and its a deep love and happy here with our family .. If ever i stay out ... john and i have good sex days after getting off on the things i have done ... it turns him on , Together and apart we play. May not be for everyone but thats how its worked years for us. xx | |||
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"Okay seeing as I got told that if I had an issue with it that I should start my own post.. Here I am.. I found the idea of a wife going out and having fun with a man in a hotel room and spending the night without her husband odd.. I pretty much if I felt the need to do that, my relationship would be seriously missing something. ( please note I said if it were me) " Just change the line 'spending the night without her husband' to 'having sex with another man' and this could have been written by the most unliberated vanillas (I do dislike that phrase) in our society today. I would suggest that given the 'hobsons choice' a majority of the general public would opt for their partner sharing a bed with someone rather than having intercourse. Please don't get me wrong, I am in no way suggesting couples should do anything that is outside of their boundaries and I do understand why some partners would not be comfortable with their other half waking up in somebody elses arms, but I feel uncomfortable that so called liberated people would label those who are comfortable and secure enough in their relationship to do this as odd! | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. " Don't agree with that at all. Why does it have to be about confidence in the relationship? Our biggest enjoyment with swinging is visual, we love seeing each other playing with other people together. So for us playing separate is a big no as we wouldn't get enjoyment out of it. Confidence is not an issue at all for us. We simply feel some things are meant just for us, which includes spending a full night in bed with someone else. kat x | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. +1 " 0nly a strong relationship could handle that | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. Don't agree with that at all. Why does it have to be about confidence in the relationship? Our biggest enjoyment with swinging is visual, we love seeing each other playing with other people together. So for us playing separate is a big no as we wouldn't get enjoyment out of it. Confidence is not an issue at all for us. We simply feel some things are meant just for us, which includes spending a full night in bed with someone else. kat x" I agree, I don't believe it's necessarily about confidence, it's primarily about choice and importantly respecting the choices of others without them having to be 'odd'. | |||
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"I know of a cuckold couple where the wife brings her playmates home, relegates her husband to the spare room for the night and sleeps in the marital bed. I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". " +1... horses for courses! | |||
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"I see a guy regularly and i always wanted more than the couple of hours i got with him but when i got the chance to spend a night with him, it totally freaked me out, i spent all night nearly falling off the bed, wide awake and gave up at 5am and decided to go home. It just felt totally alien not to be asleep next to my hubby and cuddled up, and even though i have good sex with him I just couldn't relax enough to fall asleep next to him. Was a very odd experience, one i won't be repeating with anyone " Im totally with u there, i havent got a hubby but a really close FB who i totally adore and hes the only person i want to wake up next too, i cant relax with anyone else to be able to go to sleep | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. +1 0nly a strong relationship could handle that" That implies that if its 'not your thing' then your relationship is not very strong, which is clap trap IMO It simply boils down to preference and personal choice, what floats one boat wont float another Kat x | |||
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"I don't get that either to be honest... each to their own tho but I find that a little strange." I often post, then reflect... and there are a few posters whose contributions have my complete respect, Blackspice being one. His comments above did just that. I should have waited until posters who do stay over give their rationale for doing so, become more informed and then posted. I am a single guy who has no idea why committed people would do so, labelling it as 'strange' may have come across judgemental. apologies. | |||
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"I've been out all night with a sexual partner and my wife was going to until the meet was cancelled. If you are confident enough of your relationship to let someone have sex with your partner in front of you then you should be confident enough to let them have sex without you there. +1 0nly a strong relationship could handle that That implies that if its 'not your thing' then your relationship is not very strong, which is clap trap IMO It simply boils down to preference and personal choice, what floats one boat wont float another Kat x" +1 | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" Cali what have you started.lol..plenty of couples appear to be comfortable to stay away.. yet here is a guy on a swingers forum..a swingers forum !! telling them, like some unreconstructed agony aunt, exactly what is wrong with their relationships..hilarious | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" Why?? Sorry but i find that way of thinking naive and it seems (IMO) that you have not grasped what swinging is about. People have preferences, is it so hard to understand that some people get turned on by there partner playing alone, spending the night then going home and telling the experience to there partner. We couldn't do it, because for us the visual is important, but i can fully understand why it turns others on and by no means people that do are in a rocky relationship. kat x | |||
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"Okay seeing as I got told that if I had an issue with it that I should start my own post.. Here I am.. I found the idea of a wife going out and having fun with a man in a hotel room and spending the night without her husband odd.. I pretty much if I felt the need to do that, my relationship would be seriously missing something. ( please note I said if it were me) Now I get the going out and having fun without the person physically present..As I guess what we do some of the time is like that although its 99% on cam live to my Master, its the then spending the whole night with someone not your partner.. waking up in someone elses arms.. I just dont get that... I can just about understand if your a couple and you stay all together.. ie as a 3sum in a bed.. or 2 couples all together.. but not a attached person spending the whole night with another while their partner waits at home.. So those for and against and on the fence.. what do you think.. cali " One persons strange is another’s norm and its how society works from Muslims abhorring Christianity, to zealots condoning homosexuality at one extreme to people loving or disliking marmite the other. The sleeping the night out is for some a form dom/sub behaviour and to others its a cuckold must. Fe is complicated and you won’t ever get to the stage where you understand it all. I have to point out after asking this as a question you seem to push your point of _iew and almost glory what you find sexually thrilling and this doesn’t really prompt a favourable response but many do this so you are not on your own. I think what you need to address is that some are extremely confident in their relationship so as to spend the whole night with someone and it not become an issue. People have different boundaries from those who are monogamous to those who enjoy gangbangs. Everyone’s boundary is different as you should already know so is it so difficult to understand people have different stimulus’s for excitement. Some its the bareback risk, others its multiple partners and to others its sleeping the night with someone else. Its not important to understand someone’s psyche its important to understand people have differences and you can’t fully understand them all. | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" what a pile of absolute tosh... do you also deduct that there is something wrong with cpl's who either play in seperate rooms? or same room in a 4.. or in a 3? we have not stayed over as the op described, if we did it would be our choice after discussing it.. it may not be for everyone but for those whom it works thats fine.. how you deduct what you have said is a tad puzzling.. | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" What a ridiculous conclusion to come to, I'd give up that career of an amateur marriage councillor if I were you mate! | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" I was bored and needed a good laugh today. You come and tell my beloved that our relationship is rocky or one of us isnt getting the attention we want. For US our relationship is perfect in everyway, it might not be or suit the next person but it took me 41 years to find the closest thing to perfect. I see your a single guy | |||
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" I'm surprised, given the ops lifestyle that she finds what other couples do "odd". I have to admit, you are not alone in that thought. I was in two minds as to whether to post the following, but here goes and I hope it is taken in the spirit it is intended. I can understand one half of a couple spending the night with a playmate. I can understand it on practical and physical levels, just as much as I can understand it making some couples feel uneasy to say the least. I’ll be really honest Cali, I can understand it far more than I can understand some of the things you do in the name of obeying your master. I have tried, believe me I have, but I can only relate to them (or rather the motivation behind some of the activities) if I think of them in terms of variations on self harming. So I guess it just goes beyond my understanding. Baring in mind the (what some would call) extremes you find perfectly normal in terms of sexual indulgence, it makes it all the more surprising you can’t manage to get your head around this one. " and us x | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" What a bizarre statement to make. Following your train of thought, do you also assume the couples you are seeking/meet have something missing and you're there to help the husband out as he can't fulfill his wife? | |||
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"well everyones different arnt they, what works for some dont work for everyone else. but if ur not wanting feelings to get involved its usually best to avoid, ive played with 2 couples where the female was allowed to stay the night on their own after they got to know me and hubby wasnt bothered about playing, but to be fair both couples split up not long after they decided to play alone also. so does take something special to make it work i think." I feel you have lots to learn about how different people are and not all the same .. why are you here in hope of helping some of the couples find somthing special , lol | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" Definitely worded wrong in my opinion and overly generalised.... but... in some cases, I agree that some partners are in swinging, on the net, behave a certain way in clubs because their partner doesn't give them the attention they may crave. No offence | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it Definitely worded wrong in my opinion and overly generalised.... but... in some cases, I agree that some partners are in swinging, on the net, behave a certain way in clubs because their partner doesn't give them the attention they may crave. No offence" but I don't think exclusive to the original point | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of itCali what have you started.lol..plenty of couples appear to be comfortable to stay away.. yet here is a guy on a swingers forum..a swingers forum !! telling them, like some unreconstructed agony aunt, exactly what is wrong with their relationships..hilarious" +1 well said | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it Definitely worded wrong in my opinion and overly generalised.... but... in some cases, I agree that some partners are in swinging, on the net, behave a certain way in clubs because their partner doesn't give them the attention they may crave. No offence" people let there hair down at clubs have fun .. alot go with out there partners too .. we meet loads who are there alone . Swinging you get to meet all sorts and no ones the same .. some have partners who are ill some have partners that are just not into having sex you get to meet all sorts . | |||
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"I agree, I don't believe it's necessarily about confidence, it's primarily about choice and importantly respecting the choices of others without them having to be 'odd'. " what on here? heaven forbit the day will come when the 'elite' swingers wont look down their noses at the rest of us | |||
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"I agree, I don't believe it's necessarily about confidence, it's primarily about choice and importantly respecting the choices of others without them having to be 'odd'. what on here? heaven forbit the day will come when the 'elite' swingers wont look down their noses at the rest of us " i don't give a shit what people think about me as after all they don't know me as for the "elite swingers" some are so up their own arses and think they are so god damm perfect yet they arent | |||
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"I agree, I don't believe it's necessarily about confidence, it's primarily about choice and importantly respecting the choices of others without them having to be 'odd'. what on here? heaven forbit the day will come when the 'elite' swingers wont look down their noses at the rest of us " we are to wild to fit in that group , lol | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it" but you could say that about couples on here in general As a single person i could sit here and say i dont see why married couples need to swing at all I could say they are lacking something in their marrage to make them want to fuck other I could say that they should stop coming on here and focus on sorting their marrage out I dont beleive ay of the above to be honest I think lots of happy married couples can swing together, i also think lots of happy married couple can meet alone Im not here to judge peoples relationships and i will put a pound to a penny if a married lady offered to meet you for the night you wouldnt turn her down | |||
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"definetally something wrong, a couple who probs acts like that is definetally missing something, i'd imagine they either are arguing quite a lot or she not getting the attention she craves at home, either way i think they either got a rocky relationship or are close to the end of it but you could say that about couples on here in general As a single person i could sit here and say i dont see why married couples need to swing at all I could say they are lacking something in their marrage to make them want to fuck other I could say that they should stop coming on here and focus on sorting their marrage out I dont beleive ay of the above to be honest I think lots of happy married couples can swing together, i also think lots of happy married couple can meet alone Im not here to judge peoples relationships and i will put a pound to a penny if a married lady offered to meet you for the night you wouldnt turn her down " fuck NN speak as you find | |||
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"fuck NN speak as you find " well no point beating about the bush well depending on whos bush it is | |||
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"fuck NN speak as you find well no point beating about the bush well depending on whos bush it is " dont change as i love you xxxx | |||
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"fuck NN speak as you find well no point beating about the bush well depending on whos bush it is " lol true and we love you for it. | |||
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