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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just block unverified profiles.

Not all verified ones are genuine either.

You'll never get rid of all the fakes, you just need to be carefull how you select your contacts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ? "

Another new site (set up last year - and not the best!) use a system which gives you a month to get verified - or get booted! All this did was give the fakes a month to annoy everyone before having to start again with a new profile. There's no perfect solution for the sites - but pretty simple ones for the users - i.e. cam/call - anyone who claims not to have a cam is either using a steam powered laptop and a pre-pay sim card can be bought for a quid and topped up cheaply as and when required. Works fine for me and pretty much everyone i've ever met uses the same system!

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


" anyone who claims not to have a cam is either using a steam powered laptop and a pre-pay sim card can be bought for a quid and topped up cheaply as and when required. Works fine for me and pretty much everyone i've ever met uses the same system! "

We use a PC..

We don't have a cam...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" anyone who claims not to have a cam is either using a steam powered laptop and a pre-pay sim card can be bought for a quid and topped up cheaply as and when required. Works fine for me and pretty much everyone i've ever met uses the same system!

We use a PC..

We don't have a cam...

Sorry - should have been a little clearer on that - there will be genuine folk that don't have/want to use a cam - but as it's a foolproof way of proving you're genuine - and the supermarkets sell em for less than a fiver - you'd think it would be a sensible option for those having trouble being taken seriously!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if im planning on meeting someone

i will message, cam and then phone call

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ? "

what do u deem fake?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ? "

Totally agree with you - no arguement there! I still don't see why it's not compulsory - no genuine user of the site whether they want to actually meet or just chat should have any reason not to be happy to! And would probably save the admin team a lot of work in the long run dealing with the constant churn of returning fake profiles!

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ? "

Even "genuine" photo/phone/cam verified people have no intention in actually meeting!

Just block and move on...there is no way round it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ? "

IP addresses change daily for many internet users, especially those that use dongles from mobile networks.

Regarding photo verified, you can, as mentioned, block people that are not PV'd from contacting you and block them from your searches.

I see that you are not PV'd. Does that mean from your reasoning, that you are fakes (as we must be as well, as we are not PV'd either)

Steve

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Fake profiles are men pretending to be women or men with couple profiles. On more than a few occasions we have done all we can on site to prove they are who they say they are then given out our pay as you go number only to be greeted my the voice of a man who was supposed to be a women. We then get countless texts with all sorts of requests.

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


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IP addresses change daily for many internet users, especially those that use dongles from mobile networks.

Regarding photo verified, you can, as mentioned, block people that are not PV'd from contacting you and block them from your searches.

I see that you are not PV'd. Does that mean from your reasoning, that you are fakes (as we must be as well, as we are not PV'd either)

Steve"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ?

IP addresses change daily for many internet users, especially those that use dongles from mobile networks.

Regarding photo verified, you can, as mentioned, block people that are not PV'd from contacting you and block them from your searches.

I see that you are not PV'd. Does that mean from your reasoning, that you are fakes (as we must be as well, as we are not PV'd either)

No but we do have verification from meeting !!!

Steve"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Your ip adress Is logged by the site so once a profile is removed the ip adress can be blocked to prevent them from making another profile. I understand you will never stop them and they will bug people for the time before they are removed but what if people had to be photo verified before they could contact anyone on site ?

IP addresses change daily for many internet users, especially those that use dongles from mobile networks.

Regarding photo verified, you can, as mentioned, block people that are not PV'd from contacting you and block them from your searches.

I see that you are not PV'd. Does that mean from your reasoning, that you are fakes (as we must be as well, as we are not PV'd either)

+1

Steve"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fake profiles are men pretending to be women or men with couple profiles. On more than a few occasions we have done all we can on site to prove they are who they say they are then given out our pay as you go number only to be greeted my the voice of a man who was supposed to be a women. We then get countless texts with all sorts of requests."

i have never experienced this maybe you do things differently to others

x

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ? "

yeah, 1 major thought .... how on earth does someone on the end of a phone prove that someone is "genuine"?????

and putting a time limit of those to get a verification doesn't encourage people to meet the right people, it just puts pressure to meet ANY people... and i think that is worse!!! imagine if that 1st meeting is bad... you are likely to drive people away than letting those person find out at a pace they are happy with......

at the beginning when you were finding your feel.... if you had been pressured by others how would YOU have felt...

nuff said...

shit... thats 2 major flaws...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

In what way do you think we do thinks different ? What else could we do on site to prove genuine or not without cam or call ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some men i am sure put up pics of lovers or girl-friends fake profiles just to get off on people mailing them wishing to meet them for sex ... we had some of this with a couple, bi lady only wishing to meet ... when chating to others here who new them local she was 9 months gone having a baby , lol he was at home getting off on all the mail . And she never turnd up .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think some people have misunderstood my point. When I say genuine I'm not talking about people's willingness to meet I understand the whole process that goes into deciding if or not to meet and after chatting we have chosen not to meet for than we have met. You don't sleep with everyone you chat to in a bar ! What I am talking about is men who have set up a profile as a women or a couple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

so the fake profiles who are the men pretending to be a woman

x

if its too good to be true it usually is or if the gut feeling is saying something follow it x

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

oh right... so its only men that can be considered to be fakes and timewasters now...

thanks for clarifing that and driving the big bus that just ran us over....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh right... so its only men that can be considered to be fakes and timewasters now...

thanks for clarifing that and driving the big bus that just ran us over.... "

do women do it? not that im assuming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ?

yeah, 1 major thought .... how on earth does someone on the end of a phone prove that someone is "genuine"?????

and putting a time limit of those to get a verification doesn't encourage people to meet the right people, it just puts pressure to meet ANY people... and i think that is worse!!! imagine if that 1st meeting is bad... you are likely to drive people away than letting those person find out at a pace they are happy with......

at the beginning when you were finding your feel.... if you had been pressured by others how would YOU have felt...

nuff said...

shit... thats 2 major flaws... "

I'm pretty sure the OP isn't trying to 'pressure' anyone into meets - just as frustrated as many on site with regard to those with no respect for genuine users. A phone call will at least offer the opportunity to speak to both parties in an apparent 'couple' giving a little more indication that it's not just a lone single guy.

With regard to 'pressuring' into an early meet - there's been no suggestion of that - a photo verification places no pressure on anyone, and there are many ways to interact with others to identify yourselves - the chatroom, via wecam and socials - none of which involve actual physical activity and therefore no 'pressure' on any parties to do anything they're not comfortable with.

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


"I think some people have misunderstood my point. When I say genuine I'm not talking about people's willingness to meet I understand the whole process that goes into deciding if or not to meet and after chatting we have chosen not to meet for than we have met. You don't sleep with everyone you chat to in a bar ! What I am talking about is men who have set up a profile as a women or a couple. "

There is no sure fire way to prevent this..

Next time you make that call withhold your number and if there is no female....report and block them!

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"oh right... so its only men that can be considered to be fakes and timewasters now...

thanks for clarifing that and driving the big bus that just ran us over....

do women do it? not that im assuming"

Yes, the newist craze is single women PRETENDING to be single guys to get a meet.... hadnt you heard! Beware!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"In what way do you think we do thinks different ? What else could we do on site to prove genuine or not without cam or call ?"

so define genuine....

define timeswaster....

define fake......

so from a phone call for example... can you tell that person is telling the truth about, height/weight/their sexuality/ hair or eye colour ect ect ect.... because all them 0898 numbers back in the day.. i missed out of those leggy blonde nymphos......

and again... a cam doesnt tell me if they turned up for meets or not..., or if they are quite frankly... arses....

the problem is you are looking for fullproof solutions to issues where are are not fullproof solutions....

sometimes the easiest answers to issues are due diligence and some god damn common sense... but people don't like to think they are themselves part of the wider problem.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At least the site itself doesn't put up fake profiles to get people to part with the credit card details. I know some that do that.

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area


"oh right... so its only men that can be considered to be fakes and timewasters now...

thanks for clarifing that and driving the big bus that just ran us over.... "

OP only talking about single female/couples profiles....

They not saying it only men that fakes/time wasters...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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No but we do have verification from meeting !!!

"

You do yes.

But, as per your other posts on this thread that Admin need to make people Pic Verify within a certain time or get kicked off, you and us both would both be off here by now.

As said, the site gives you the chance to filter out un-verified by meet or by PV profiles.

Not all people will do this, they like to take a chance on new folks, as at the end of the day we all started here with no verifications. Hence why the site gives the choice to block out non - verified profiles.

Steve

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Can I just say that as a single female I NEVER cam or give out a phone number to anyone until I have met them. I have had issues with people who want to spend far too much time chatting then back off from action.

I could easily use a disposable sim, but I don't want to have to keep changing my number to get rid of the twonks out there - and there are plenty of them!

So I arrange everything through the site. Some guys are not prepared to do that, but it's my time and safety and.privacy involved so if they prefer to talk on the phone or cam first then it's game over for me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Here we go it didn't take long for the male with a chip on his shoulder to hijack the thread. If you would like to read my post again very CAREFULLY you will see quite clearly that the word timewasters does not appear in it. And to answer your point , I wonder how many people get messages from women who have set up a profile as a male ? A simple rule where u could not message people till photo verified would help a lot , a man holding a card with the username "slippery sadie" would give away the fact they were fake. And to keep certain happy and to avoid the accusation of sexism , a women holding a card with the username " Henry hung like a donkey" may also give the game away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I just say that as a single female I NEVER cam or give out a phone number to anyone until I have met them. I have had issues with people who want to spend far too much time chatting then back off from action.

I could easily use a disposable sim, but I don't want to have to keep changing my number to get rid of the twonks out there - and there are plenty of them!

So I arrange everything through the site. Some guys are not prepared to do that, but it's my time and safety and.privacy involved so if they prefer to talk on the phone or cam first then it's game over for me. "

Thats actually a good thing. Keep all comunication ON the site and if it goes pear shaped then admin can deal.

As soon as you take it to MSN or phones then there is no proof that admin can act upon.

Also, if you have a smart phone, consider using one of the messaging apps, you just get a user id and most have the option to block people from your list. They act just like SMS too.

Steve

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

I'm pretty sure the OP isn't trying to 'pressure' anyone into meets - just as frustrated as many on site with regard to those with no respect for genuine users. A phone call will at least offer the opportunity to speak to both parties in an apparent 'couple' giving a little more indication that it's not just a lone single guy.

With regard to 'pressuring' into an early meet - there's been no suggestion of that - a photo verification places no pressure on anyone, and there are many ways to interact with others to identify yourselves - the chatroom, via wecam and socials - none of which involve actual physical activity and therefore no 'pressure' on any parties to do anything they're not comfortable with.

"

life may be full of "good intentsions"... but for every action, there is a consequence... and putting a time limit of how long people will be on a site before you remove them without a verification will do that.....

so who determines the "time limit"?

i know people who were around for 6months/9months/1 year on the site getting a feel and taking things and there own pace, and finding the right people for them....

any time limit WILL put pressure on people to say you must meet... what if they are coming to the end of the limit and haven't met anyone......

i don't think the site in increasing full of fake profiles.... but i do think the site is becoming increasing full of people who are becoming so reliant on aids and tools.. that they use that as a substitue for like i said, doing your own due diligence and having some common sense... where they should be used in addition instead....

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

never got to the point of giving my number to somone and only then discovering the female doesnt exist.

Every so often we get mail from a couple and think somethings fishy, maybe once every two months at most...perhaps the OP needs to look at what they are doing if this is such a problem for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" A simple rule where u could not message people till photo verified would help a lot , "

http://www.fabswingers.com/my/filters

Change that and it stops unverified members mailing you.

Does that not give the same result as your original suggestion?

S.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Here we go it didn't take long for the male with a chip on his shoulder to hijack the thread. If you would like to read my post again very CAREFULLY you will see quite clearly that the word timewasters does not appear in it. And to answer your point , I wonder how many people get messages from women who have set up a profile as a male ? A simple rule where u could not message people till photo verified would help a lot , a man holding a card with the username "slippery sadie" would give away the fact they were fake. And to keep certain happy and to avoid the accusation of sexism , a women holding a card with the username " Henry hung like a donkey" may also give the game away. "

thanks for saying i have a chip....

what i am trying to point out is some of the sillyness is what you are proposing... and some of the flaws in that no system is going to be infallible.....

the site gives you tools to make it work... if you don't want to meet people without varifications... guess what... the site does give you that option for doing that search

or people of a certain age... guess what... the site gives you that options of doing that search

or men... women... couples... guess what... the site gives you that option of doing that search....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I'm pretty sure the OP isn't trying to 'pressure' anyone into meets - just as frustrated as many on site with regard to those with no respect for genuine users. A phone call will at least offer the opportunity to speak to both parties in an apparent 'couple' giving a little more indication that it's not just a lone single guy.

With regard to 'pressuring' into an early meet - there's been no suggestion of that - a photo verification places no pressure on anyone, and there are many ways to interact with others to identify yourselves - the chatroom, via wecam and socials - none of which involve actual physical activity and therefore no 'pressure' on any parties to do anything they're not comfortable with.

life may be full of "good intentsions"... but for every action, there is a consequence... and putting a time limit of how long people will be on a site before you remove them without a verification will do that.....

so who determines the "time limit"?

i know people who were around for 6months/9months/1 year on the site getting a feel and taking things and there own pace, and finding the right people for them....

any time limit WILL put pressure on people to say you must meet... what if they are coming to the end of the limit and haven't met anyone......

i don't think the site in increasing full of fake profiles.... but i do think the site is becoming increasing full of people who are becoming so reliant on aids and tools.. that they use that as a substitue for like i said, doing your own due diligence and having some common sense... where they should be used in addition instead...."

Totally agree - all the tech help in the world doesn't remove the fact that common sense and being careful are the two key things to ensure you enjoy sites such as this and the lifestyle. But photo verification would at least be a small step in the right direction to deter some with devious motives. And anything that can be done to reduce those can only help those trying to find their feet at their own pace by reducing the potential for bad experiences and mis-direction on their journey!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I understand the point about the tools of the site and am happy to take advice, but I don't like is when people read my post and add in word that were not there in the first place like "timewasters". We would never call or label people timewasters as we have been called it many times due to talking then deciding not to meet for one reason or another. And its not very nice.

We have now changed our message filters but that does not stop us messaging people we believe no to be genuine profiles only to later find out they are fake. The thing is there are a lot of profiles which are not verified but are still genuine. The point I was trying to make was if it was site rules you had to be photo verified then would that not remove a lot a fake profiles ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes i think a phone call when you first start chating can help alot .. thank god just had this one time ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" The point I was trying to make was if it was site rules you had to be photo verified then would that not remove a lot a fake profiles ? "

And to return to someone else's point above, this would then mean that your own profile would, under those rules be removed

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The point I was trying to make was if it was site rules you had to be photo verified then would that not remove a lot a fake profiles ? "

2 points....

one... as others have pointed out you are not photo verified and have chosen not to at this point..... so under your own proposal your own profile would have gone.... any sense of irony in that at all??

two... all that PV show me is that you are technical enough to know how to stick a sign in front of you... nothing more.. and as i pointed out earlier... it doesn't tell me if people are the height they claim to be,

or are the sexuality they claim to be,

or turn up for meets,

or like i said.. people who just happen to be prize idiots...

any system that is full proof.. cool.. happy to support it... but when things and ideas have holes in them big enough to drive cars thru... you have to point them out....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

We have not been photo veri cause we don't have to. But if we had to or would be removed then we would. But..... If we could not because we are not who we say we would also be removed...... Problem solved one less fake profile, we could then try to set up another one but our ip adress would be bloked. We, as mentioned before could use a dongle but that's too much effort so we will just go to another site were it is far easier to set up a fake profile. You will never stop someone breaking into your house if they want to you can only make it more difficult so as they leave yours alone and go to another house which may be easier to break into. I know it's not the same but the principle is.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I also hear people say in the bareback threads about condoms not making sex 100% safe but they still use them cause it cuts the risk. So surely although it would not stop fake profile completely it would as such cut the chance of them being fake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ? "

Why not.........and its on a suggestion....BLOCK unverified profiles!

Alternatively everyone should send in a urine sample so it can be determined what sex people are by hormone levels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We have not been photo veri cause we don't have to. But if we had to or would be removed then we would. But..... If we could not because we are not who we say we would also be removed...... Problem solved one less fake profile, we could then try to set up another one but our ip adress would be bloked. We, as mentioned before could use a dongle but that's too much effort so we will just go to another site were it is far easier to set up a fake profile. You will never stop someone breaking into your house if they want to you can only make it more difficult so as they leave yours alone and go to another house which may be easier to break into. I know it's not the same but the principle is. "

Well I have just looked at your profile and in total honesty it isn't photo verified and verifications are hidden. To me it looks like a fake profile or possibly one. The phrase setting a good example comes to mind.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You didn't need to look at our profile to know we were not photo verified as you have clearly quoted our post in which we state "we are not photo verified". But good point none the less!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Maybe more reading and less looking would help !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe more reading and less looking would help ! "

Well maybe you shouldn't ask opinions yet be guilty of the crime you are claiming about if you dont want your shortcumings pointing out. You need to put more effort into forethought and less into sarcasm it may stand you in good thread.

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

The problem is there is no method of genuine verification that cant be faked in some way, even the picture verification can be if someone REALLY wanted too.

I think the site has done just about all it can to rid us of fakes and give us the mechanics to avoid them for the most part, but you still need to look for the warning signs and be careful.

All these MF profiles that end up just being a "guy" are probably the worst of all on here though, at least for the most part the single guys are real !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The problem is there is no method of genuine verification that cant be faked in some way, even the picture verification can be if someone REALLY wanted too.

I think the site has done just about all it can to rid us of fakes and give us the mechanics to avoid them for the most part, but you still need to look for the warning signs and be careful.

All these MF profiles that end up just being a "guy" are probably the worst of all on here though, at least for the most part the single guys are real !

"

You have pretty much hit the nail on the head there. Apart from home visits from admin there isn't a lot more that can be done.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Still don't remember saying all un verified users were fake but do remember saying that" there are a lot of genuine users that are un verified." maybe seeing as you are so good at looking you would like to look at my previous post and try reading them and confirm to be that my memory does serve me correct ?

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

Honestly we have also found if you actually want to cut through all the bullshit and meet REAL people clubs are a pretty decent way to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

aLOT have more then one profile and thay send feed-back of the others . Not sre what can be done to stop it .

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"aLOT have more then one profile and thay send feed-back of the others . Not sre what can be done to stop it ."

very little it relies on people reporting them with a well written report detailing why you think they are fake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Still don't remember saying all un verified users were fake but do remember saying that" there are a lot of genuine users that are un verified." maybe seeing as you are so good at looking you would like to look at my previous post and try reading them and confirm to be that my memory does serve me correct ? "

Well I will do that while you pop upstairs and take your photo verified picture. Personally I think ye a single bloke pretending but that's my opinion. I see no proof otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"aLOT have more then one profile and thay send feed-back of the others . Not sre what can be done to stop it .

very little it relies on people reporting them with a well written report detailing why you think they are fake.

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and do thay then just put up new profile ? do very same thing again and again .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Still don't remember saying all un verified users were fake but do remember saying that" there are a lot of genuine users that are un verified." maybe seeing as you are so good at looking you would like to look at my previous post and try reading them and confirm to be that my memory does serve me correct ? "

Ok in your own words "Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed" as you have been here more than a year by your own thoughts you should be removed! How about setting a good example?

I just think its VERY hypocritical to preach yet think you are above it.

Oh and Cam isn't acceptable unless it is to admin to view.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I agree if you really wanted to fake a profile you could photo shop a pic but most of the idiots who fake profiles won't have the patience or intelligence to do so. To say you will never stop it so why bother even try to implement things that would make it " more difficult". Is like saying if someone wants to nick my car they will so I will just leave the doors open. Surely it's about making it awkward to make fake profiles so people go elsewhere where it can be done easier.

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By *lackCherryCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"

and do thay then just put up new profile ? do very same thing again and again ."

Its frustrating and annoying but there is nothing more we or the site can do

The internet just makes it so easy to be a fake.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Pretty sure I also said we havnt got pic verified because we didn't have to but also said we had been verified by a meet so.... In answer to you trying to be clever and pick fault no we would not be removed.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ? "

I am guessing before I read down the thread that you will have been have been pointed towards the message filters which will let you block unverified people ( plus other filters ) You could then avoid any profiles that don't suit you.

I think to make PV compulsory wouldn't be a good thing. I like the choice we all have on the site to use it as we wish.

So what we do is use our gut instinct a lot. We have questions that we ask on a first chat, depending on the answers depends on wether there is a second converstation. Use your gut instinct to out people on the first chat.

If you think they are fake for whatever reason, then report the profile and then block, then you don't need to worry about it as they won't waste your time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why blame the users and the site for your failures?

So yes there are lots of fakes and flakes on here - you should do a better job of filtering them out at an early stage.

Soon as you contact a potential match, and they are interested, then request a cam-cam verification or girl-girl or group phone call. If they refuse or say "cant do it right now, because we're half way up a mountain, but we can do it in 3 months time" drop them - no if's no buts..

The site provides adequate measures to "help" provide genuine matches, such as filters, photo verification etc. Its up to you to do the rest..

BTW verifications are easy to fake, and they are done so by a lot of people. So best things is to use your own intuition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Fake profiles are men pretending to be women or men with couple profiles. On more than a few occasions we have done all we can on site to prove they are who they say they are then given out our pay as you go number only to be greeted my the voice of a man who was supposed to be a women. We then get countless texts with all sorts of requests."

So, did you report the "man" to admin?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure I also said we havnt got pic verified because we didn't have to but also said we had been verified by a meet so.... In answer to you trying to be clever and pick fault no we would not be removed. "

To be fair, as you have not got your verification displayed, then we have only got your word for it that it's from a meet

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Have not appointed blame to any other site user !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure I also said we havnt got pic verified because we didn't have to but also said we had been verified by a meet so.... In answer to you trying to be clever and pick fault no we would not be removed.

To be fair, as you have not got your verification displayed, then we have only got your word for it that it's from a meet"

+1

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You could find out by doing a local search and using the advanced tools but that's a long winded way to do it. I agree it's only our word maybe it would be a good idea if profiles had some other form of tick or symbol to show it is verified by meet which would help especially on profiles like ours where we have veris hidden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well im not fake and i love this site. if i thought anyone was fake id report them str8 away. maybe we should all police this site to help admin out. just an idea.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"Pretty sure I also said we havnt got pic verified because we didn't have to but also said we had been verified by a meet so.... In answer to you trying to be clever and pick fault no we would not be removed.

To be fair, as you have not got your verification displayed, then we have only got your word for it that it's from a meet"

As an aside,in the advanced search you can search for people with verifications with meets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure I also said we havnt got pic verified because we didn't have to but also said we had been verified by a meet so.... In answer to you trying to be clever and pick fault no we would not be removed.

To be fair, as you have not got your verification displayed, then we have only got your word for it that it's from a meet

As an aside,in the advanced search you can search for people with verifications with meets "

Ooooh! Thanks Rugby - wasn't aware of that - must be new since I rejoined

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do wonder why it is some people seem to be " plagued" by " fakes flakes and time wasters" and others aren't?

Maybe they should look at what it is they are doing that attracts them and enables them instead of saying its everyone elses fault

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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"You could find out by doing a local search and using the advanced tools but that's a long winded way to do it. I agree it's only our word maybe it would be a good idea if profiles had some other form of tick or symbol to show it is verified by meet which would help especially on profiles like ours where we have veris hidden."

With respect though, you could meet someone this week, they verify you but you could then split up and only one of you use the profile pretending to be a couple....so only at the time of the verifications those people are real.

Admin are looking to do something different with verifications soon though. Check out this thread.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/feedback/86287

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could find out by doing a local search and using the advanced tools but that's a long winded way to do it. I agree it's only our word maybe it would be a good idea if profiles had some other form of tick or symbol to show it is verified by meet which would help especially on profiles like ours where we have veris hidden."

What to give credence to a male varying his couples profile?

The best thing is do as we do and not fully trust anyone who hides verifications. Someone can fake a verification but if you follow the trail and the person verifying hasn't and others and a pattern emerges that is easy to spot. We assume hidden verifications couples especially are hidden, 50% of the time because they are fake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i do agree with one statement made that people should be verified in person by at least 2 months of being a member. and a least one pic of them .wether in view or private. people that say sorry no pics but have on my mobile. i simple block.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just want to say that sometimes people don't feel like going on cam coz I know sure as hell I don't when u know any Tom dick Harry etc can look at u, I prefer to text talk to on phone and meet friends have on here n meet them reg when it's fit for both parties,people can talk on cam be photo verified but still be all talk and not turn up they just get off on playing on cam

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i do agree with one statement made that people should be verified in person by at least 2 months of being a member. and a least one pic of them .wether in view or private. people that say sorry no pics but have on my mobile. i simple block."

you would have half of the males on here being deleted if you only allowed 2 months as some struggle. It would also open it to abuse by some saying if they didn't with them they would be deleted.

We are not totally comfortable with the verification system as its a little like the Indian caste system and pone to abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" anyone who claims not to have a cam is either using a steam powered laptop and a pre-pay sim card can be bought for a quid and topped up cheaply as and when required. Works fine for me and pretty much everyone i've ever met uses the same system!

We use a PC..

We don't have a cam...

"

+1 and my present laptop isn't steam powered either!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This site seems to be increasingly full of fake profiles, I know it's hard to police this but maybe some measures could be put in place deter these people. On another site you had to call a lo-call number and the female had to read out username which allowed you to be verified as a couple or single fem. Maybe profiles should be given a period of time to gain a verification either voice, pic, cam or meet or be removed. I know this will not rid site of all fake profiles but will remove a lot of them. Any thoughts ?

Another new site (set up last year - and not the best!) use a system which gives you a month to get verified - or get booted! All this did was give the fakes a month to annoy everyone before having to start again with a new profile. There's no perfect solution for the sites - but pretty simple ones for the users - i.e. cam/call - anyone who claims not to have a cam is either using a steam powered laptop and a pre-pay sim card can be bought for a quid and topped up cheaply as and when required. Works fine for me and pretty much everyone i've ever met uses the same system! "

We don't and wont cam,so your theory is not too watertight

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By *atisfy janeWoman
over a year ago

Torquay

Have been a member for over two years, have had plenty of meets and have been meet verified several times....some of which appear on my profile.

But.....have never been photo verified, have never felt the need to be photo verified, and couldn't give a damn about other members thoughts on photo verifications because I do very well using this site without photo verification.

Which surely is all that matters?

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