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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " Some clubs have been known to do it, and have been shut down because of it. It’s annoying, because some of the inexperienced, usually, young males, think all clubs are like this, and abuse the ‘normal’ swinging females | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right?" We didn't waste our hard earned money- just warning others | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right?" They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ..... | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right? They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ....." So who's complaining, are the guys who want to pay the money complaining ? If there wasn't a demand, it wouldn't happen surely. You could as I've said above then say swinger clubs are promoting pimping as they charge an inflated entry to guys over the women or couples and promote a supply of partners. People historically will always try to make money out of someone where sex is involved. | |||
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"As a single male I regularly attend clubs loving the environment of how you can be who you want to be without people judging you, I have noticed on many occasions and speaking to certain single males who do not have the slightest clue what so ever about etiquette that that think they touch and play with whom ever they want without evening striking up a conversation because they have paid there entrance fee, Also experienced a few uncomfortable situations " Who knows maybe these type of parties have a lot to answer for | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right? They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ....." My point was ever so slightly missed. Just a bit | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right? They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ....." Totally agree. We had our name down for one of these parties, until we realised they were making so much money from the single guys (who we don't even play with) and marketing the parties that 'so many couples were going'. We cancelled and are now blocked cos we are timewasters. Fine by us. | |||
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"As a single male I regularly attend clubs loving the environment of how you can be who you want to be without people judging you, I have noticed on many occasions and speaking to certain single males who do not have the slightest clue what so ever about etiquette that that think they touch and play with whom ever they want without evening striking up a conversation because they have paid there entrance fee, Also experienced a few uncomfortable situations " This...^^ | |||
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"You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right? They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ....." Agree, and always felt a little uneasy about it, it doesn't sit well with us. | |||
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"Op you just lit a fuse to a pound of dynamite... But I’m glad you said it..... Now be prepared for every party hostess/party organizer to come to this thread and tell you they have never seen this at any party they are involved in.... I have stockings older than them! I'm all for pure swinger events. It's the "paid for events" " | |||
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"OP you say you have done 99.9% of swinging kinks. Really? What is the 0.1% thing you have never tried ?" Trans-male to fem. = yez please any offers? Fem half here, elbowing to front of que. Done all of the list frotting was last night. Not a first! Love that kind of meet. We're also in the kink community. Not bragging, happy to share our knowledge to those who wish to learn. Please feel free to message us with gen questions. Male half used to run his own "unpaid" parties, in the 90's. We've been swinging just 1 score and 10 plus maybe a few more. Sharing is knowledge and learning, plus, oh yeah wife swapping! | |||
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"I tend to side with the op on this one - and I’m surprised that the site hasn’t clamped down on this style of event as the ethos of the site is that there should be no money made from the activities on it. Come one, come all, it’s a broad church - but there is a world of difference between covering costs of a hotel room and coming away with several hundred pounds profit ..... " My point exactly! The parties are advertised on here. 2 parties on 1day. If 10 guys goto each party, thats 2k. How much "costs"? Come on MODS. I'm not naming them but happy to disscuss on pm. | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!!" Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing" "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice." And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that." So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice." Excuse my ignorance but I think you’re taking this out of context.... What the Op is decribing and what a club does to make money is totally different... | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " Totally agree. There is a "club"(i use that term very liberally) in Scotland that does this...I steer well clear of anyone who has attended this "club". And it does seem to give some guys a warped sense of what swinging clubs are all about. | |||
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"I don't know why people are getting over excited about this. The people who go have a choice to go or not, and funnily the people who object have the same choice. I have just been messaged by someone who may have been watching this thread and seeing my indifference to people selling stuff, offered me either vids, pics, or clothes, I politely declined, who got hurt, nobody !!!!" So you think goings on of this ilk in no way affect the wider swinging community? Maybe the fact you dont go to clubs and see the effect these "clubs" have on the mind set of guys who have attended them would explain why. You have a "live and let live" attitude, maybe because it doesn't effect you, right? | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " If anything, i would be more concerned that, as they are escorts, men would get a sure thing, when it gets to playing, because the ones going are escorts. Because they were unaware of this, some may take on that entitled attitude when it comes to other parties and clubs | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. If anything, i would be more concerned that, as they are escorts, men would get a sure thing, when it gets to playing, because the ones going are escorts. Because they were unaware of this, some may take on that entitled attitude when it comes to other parties and clubs " Exactly this. Was the point I was trying to make, but you put it much better. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. If anything, i would be more concerned that, as they are escorts, men would get a sure thing, when it gets to playing, because the ones going are escorts. Because they were unaware of this, some may take on that entitled attitude when it comes to other parties and clubs " Yes exactly! BDSM community is as far away from swinging as you can get. Although lots like to blur the line and mix them together. Just as Swingers are well diffined differance to "Escort clubs". Ddsm has it's own website, these Escorts should have no place here. Your right, men not in the know, may think ladies are an entitlement in swingers clubs. We are there for our/ mutaul pleasure, not a free for all. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. Some clubs have been known to do it, and have been shut down because of it. It’s annoying, because some of the inexperienced, usually, young males, think all clubs are like this, and abuse the ‘normal’ swinging females" | |||
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"I don't know why people are getting over excited about this. The people who go have a choice to go or not, and funnily the people who object have the same choice. I have just been messaged by someone who may have been watching this thread and seeing my indifference to people selling stuff, offered me either vids, pics, or clothes, I politely declined, who got hurt, nobody !!!! So you think goings on of this ilk in no way affect the wider swinging community? Maybe the fact you dont go to clubs and see the effect these "clubs" have on the mind set of guys who have attended them would explain why. You have a "live and let live" attitude, maybe because it doesn't effect you, right?" | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right?" I was going to type this! | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right? They were in no way saying they have to go !! The OP is correct this is escorting disguising itself as swinging ..... My point was ever so slightly missed. Just a bit" Some of us already came to the same conclusion and got your point. | |||
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"I don't know why people are getting over excited about this. The people who go have a choice to go or not, and funnily the people who object have the same choice. I have just been messaged by someone who may have been watching this thread and seeing my indifference to people selling stuff, offered me either vids, pics, or clothes, I politely declined, who got hurt, nobody !!!!" No one got hurt, but that is not what this website is designed for. EBay charges a fee for you to sell stuff, as do online escort agencies. If these people were allowed to sell sex for free on here this place would be swamped. | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ?" Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service" Report them, and what good will that do exactly ? They just start a new profile, just like the other ghosts, timewasters and fakes ! You're all jumping on a bandwagon highlighted by the OP, until then probably most of you would have been blissfully unaware of the situation, and if you're not attending the said parties, why do you care. And as for live and let live, yep, if it doesn't directly affect me then I'm not actually bothered. This is the same knee jerk witch hunt that married guys, by and large get subjected to from the harridens on here. If lairy guys are spoiling your fun at clubs then complain to the clubs concerned, then they'll get ejected and won't gain entry again. | |||
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"Save ur self from being miserable don't go to clubs lol " It's not a club, it's an escort road show, big difference. | |||
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"Not all greedy girl nights have escorts working some are porn stars ,a lot advertise on Twitter were they will be and you can meet them .." All pornstars are escorts too | |||
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"Not all greedy girl nights have escorts working some are porn stars ,a lot advertise on Twitter were they will be and you can meet them .. All pornstars are escorts too" Dunno about 'all'. However some are swingers too and DON'T charge when swinging, there's a very well known one on here who very much respects the 'lifestyle'. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " Supply and demand, if men didn't pay there would be no business and some are happy to pay for sex so I can see no harm as long as they state what they charge from day 1 then it's up to the individual. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. Supply and demand, if men didn't pay there would be no business and some are happy to pay for sex so I can see no harm as long as they state what they charge from day 1 then it's up to the individual. " I have no issue with the supply and demand of the sex industry. What I do have an issue with is couples and single fems who aren't Escorts being used as bait to lure paying men in. These men then assume we are a sure thing and get cheesed off when they get turned down. We are swingers - It's better to have transparency all round so everyone knows what the score is. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. Supply and demand, if men didn't pay there would be no business and some are happy to pay for sex so I can see no harm as long as they state what they charge from day 1 then it's up to the individual. I have no issue with the supply and demand of the sex industry. What I do have an issue with is couples and single fems who aren't Escorts being used as bait to lure paying men in. These men then assume we are a sure thing and get cheesed off when they get turned down. We are swingers - It's better to have transparency all round so everyone knows what the score is." | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. Supply and demand, if men didn't pay there would be no business and some are happy to pay for sex so I can see no harm as long as they state what they charge from day 1 then it's up to the individual. I have no issue with the supply and demand of the sex industry. What I do have an issue with is couples and single fems who aren't Escorts being used as bait to lure paying men in. These men then assume we are a sure thing and get cheesed off when they get turned down. We are swingers - It's better to have transparency all round so everyone knows what the score is." | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. Supply and demand, if men didn't pay there would be no business and some are happy to pay for sex so I can see no harm as long as they state what they charge from day 1 then it's up to the individual. I have no issue with the supply and demand of the sex industry. What I do have an issue with is couples and single fems who aren't Escorts being used as bait to lure paying men in. These men then assume we are a sure thing and get cheesed off when they get turned down. We are swingers - It's better to have transparency all round so everyone knows what the score is." I do think these clubs have a lot to answer for when it comes to certain males presumption of club etiquette or personal space, I was enjoying the company of friend at a club last night when this guy came up and started stroking her leg without even introducing himself, when questioned his explanation was you know me, " wrong I don't ", we have said hallo and conversed briefly on a couple of occasions ". Why do some people think they have the right to touch and play with whom ever they want with out even striking up a conversation because they have paid there entrance fee, woukd you walk up to a complete stranger in a bar a start stroking their leg | |||
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"Dont agree that they are not for swingers We have been to a few and there are always couples and single ladies who attend for free True that there are paid girls there but the men who attend seem to get more attention from the swingers. Also the guys are very well behaved and not at all predatory like some of the idiots we have encountered at clubs. Would love to know we're you attend " | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service" I reported the profile of a woman in here, only 2 miles from me, who was offering me full sex for £50, or £40 each if I brought a mate. She disappeared from the site fairly quickly after I contacted admin, and I was quite impressed by the quick action! Turns out, all that actually happened was the site has blocked me from viewing her profile, and her from viewing mine... | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service I reported the profile of a woman in here, only 2 miles from me, who was offering me full sex for £50, or £40 each if I brought a mate. She disappeared from the site fairly quickly after I contacted admin, and I was quite impressed by the quick action! Turns out, all that actually happened was the site has blocked me from viewing her profile, and her from viewing mine... " How do you know she's still on the site? | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service I reported the profile of a woman in here, only 2 miles from me, who was offering me full sex for £50, or £40 each if I brought a mate. She disappeared from the site fairly quickly after I contacted admin, and I was quite impressed by the quick action! Turns out, all that actually happened was the site has blocked me from viewing her profile, and her from viewing mine... How do you know she's still on the site?" Friends of mine can view her profile, whereas I can’t | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? Report them and let admin decide if they are to be allowed on the site if they are selling a service I reported the profile of a woman in here, only 2 miles from me, who was offering me full sex for £50, or £40 each if I brought a mate. She disappeared from the site fairly quickly after I contacted admin, and I was quite impressed by the quick action! Turns out, all that actually happened was the site has blocked me from viewing her profile, and her from viewing mine... How do you know she's still on the site? Friends of mine can view her profile, whereas I can’t " Has said friend asked you to go in on the 40 each deal ? Saves a tenner each fish n chip supper for afterwards Win win | |||
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"Single guys always get ripped off at clubs too, I was looking at joining a certain club not saying which one, membership couples £25, single lady’s £10 and single guys £100. Then once a member you have to pay to go in too, and the guy will be ripped off again. If they said £40 or £50 you say ok but £100 it’s just being ripped off , " It doesnt matter which one. The pricing for guys always crops up. You have a chouce not to go. This is a totally different issue - the underhand use of escorts to entice swingers into parties. | |||
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"Saw one the other day was charging £60 entrance fee" that entrance fee or actual entrance fee lmfao Or i suppose the same thing? Don't know never been never will but at the end of the day everyone pays for it one way or another Whether it's hubby taking the missus out so he can get his leg over or single guys attending clubs(don'tjump on people just saying your paying the door fee for the possible chance of fucking although not always the case social bit etc etc E.g. meet last night transport there and back this morning drinks condoms(x a lot obvs) extra big tube of lube from the wholesalers Ann summers professional vibrating phallus ring snacks n nibbles Mini wand as a treat for the lady Best part of a ton (it was a long way) | |||
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"Have you noticed how many ‘single ladies’ put on the meets ,events section or under status that they will be attending this or that club and asking if anybody will be going ? I would be very surprised if they don’t have some connection to the Club owners. It’s bait pure and simple. " Think your right there. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " I definitely think you have a point, there. | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ?" I joked about looking for a sugar daddy in my status once. Admin took it down and gave me a warning because I was asking for money or gifts in exchange for sex. So yes looking for a sugar daddy is banned. (just saying. ) | |||
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"Even your common or garden swingers clubs make money out of you "free swingers" by charging guys more for entry !!! Clubs are businesses, so I don't mind them making money, but if I have sex with a swinger it is important that they want to have sex with me. Someone having sex because they are getting paid (or very often, someone controlling them is getting paid) - that is a totally different thing "Clubs are businesses", so are escorts, selling sex is their business / livelihood of choice. And they arent allowed to sell sex on here. If you want to buy it there are specific sites for that. So we ban all women looking for a sugar daddy too then, as whatever you want to call it, it's payment or payment in kind for sex obviously. And any lifestyle Pro Dommes or Doms that sign on on here, probably will turn out to be paymemt for services rendered ? I joked about looking for a sugar daddy in my status once. Admin took it down and gave me a warning because I was asking for money or gifts in exchange for sex. So yes looking for a sugar daddy is banned. (just saying. ) " There is sometimes a thin line between the two, I'd say. | |||
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"Why does every one have it in for escorts , " I don't think people do. There is a place for them to sell their business and according to the rules fab is not it. What is your opinion of escorts being able to sell on here? Should they be allowed? | |||
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"Why does every one have it in for escorts , " They don't. But escorts are breaking fab rules if they charge on here. There are plenty of sites for them to use to charge for services. They should stick to using those. | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " They're just whores, pure and simple. I prefer to have sex with people who like me rather than those who need paying and will probably spend it all on drugs. I have no issue with prostitution, it should be legal and licensed to prefent trafficking. | |||
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"On Wednesday I sent a message to a young lady who was advertising a greedy girl party for Friday in Central London.I got a message back this morning saying the party was fully booked but the next one was this Friday £100 for 3 hours and a man’s name and phone number.When I saw the man’s name and phone number I checked my archived email and it was the same name and number.I straight away knew these were not what I call genuine swingers but sex parties where sex is guaranteed as the girls there are escorts.I have used these parties many years ago they can be good fun for a single guy looking for guaranteed sex and watching others having sex but at the end of the day it’s a business not the real swinging experience." So by paying to go to these parties you ate facilitating them breaking fab rules then? | |||
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"Have you noticed how many ‘single ladies’ put on the meets ,events section or under status that they will be attending this or that club and asking if anybody will be going ? I would be very surprised if they don’t have some connection to the Club owners. It’s bait pure and simple. " Lots of single guys do this, and couples too. Why should people not let other people know where they are going?. I have often put where I'm going because I want to let my friends know in case they would like to join me. I also put where I am going in meets and events to let friends know, I feel that's a great way to use the site. I don't feel I'm baiting people into joining me! | |||
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"Have you noticed how many ‘single ladies’ put on the meets ,events section or under status that they will be attending this or that club and asking if anybody will be going ? I would be very surprised if they don’t have some connection to the Club owners. It’s bait pure and simple. Lots of single guys do this, and couples too. Why should people not let other people know where they are going?. I have often put where I'm going because I want to let my friends know in case they would like to join me. I also put where I am going in meets and events to let friends know, I feel that's a great way to use the site. I don't feel I'm baiting people into joining me! " We put where we are going so our friends can join us. Hardly baiting people (milf mon today and deffo no Escorts!) | |||
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"Have you noticed how many ‘single ladies’ put on the meets ,events section or under status that they will be attending this or that club and asking if anybody will be going ? I would be very surprised if they don’t have some connection to the Club owners. It’s bait pure and simple. Lots of single guys do this, and couples too. Why should people not let other people know where they are going?. I have often put where I'm going because I want to let my friends know in case they would like to join me. I also put where I am going in meets and events to let friends know, I feel that's a great way to use the site. I don't feel I'm baiting people into joining me! " Nothing wrong with telling people where you are going to be. It's not promoting the club at all. Just letting the people you are looking to meet know. | |||
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"Is there a difference between a greedy girl event using escorts charging £100 per male and a super exclusive swinging party that wants to control male numbers, only wants the finest looking and affluent gents to attend that charge £100? If anyone is actively advertising events that cost £100 to attend, you either cough up your money or don't. Anyone daft enough to pay £100 deserves to be fleeced in my opinion. " There’s a price tag, an ‘invitation to treat’, so it’s someone’s choice whether to pay it or not. But this is a site for swingers | |||
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"I think what everyone has lost about this thread is the impression these events have on the new people in the lifestyle.... For a single male this can be detrimental to his outlook on swinging... if a new single males first experience with swinging is paying $100 for a gangbang... he will think going to a club for $40-60 is a bargain... then proceed to act entitled to fuck every woman in the club because he paid $40-60 to get in... For a new couple being invited to a party and being offered money for sex , can put them off swinging... plus they might think all swingers do this for money.... We can’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch... So I’m very happy the Op posted this" Very well put. | |||
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"On Wednesday I sent a message to a young lady who was advertising a greedy girl party for Friday in Central London.I got a message back this morning saying the party was fully booked but the next one was this Friday £100 for 3 hours and a man’s name and phone number.When I saw the man’s name and phone number I checked my archived email and it was the same name and number.I straight away knew these were not what I call genuine swingers but sex parties where sex is guaranteed as the girls there are escorts.I have used these parties many years ago they can be good fun for a single guy looking for guaranteed sex and watching others having sex but at the end of the day it’s a business not the real swinging experience. So by paying to go to these parties you ate facilitating them breaking fab rules then? " . When I sent the message I didn’t realise it was parties that I have known about for 15 years.The last time I attend these sort of parties was about 10 years ago.Do you think it’s it’s worth while sending a message to admin sharing my knowledge or will they think that I am slandering the young lady on Fabs with 20 odd verifications.The last thing I want is to get my self banned | |||
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"On Wednesday I sent a message to a young lady who was advertising a greedy girl party for Friday in Central London.I got a message back this morning saying the party was fully booked but the next one was this Friday £100 for 3 hours and a man’s name and phone number.When I saw the man’s name and phone number I checked my archived email and it was the same name and number.I straight away knew these were not what I call genuine swingers but sex parties where sex is guaranteed as the girls there are escorts.I have used these parties many years ago they can be good fun for a single guy looking for guaranteed sex and watching others having sex but at the end of the day it’s a business not the real swinging experience. So by paying to go to these parties you ate facilitating them breaking fab rules then? . When I sent the message I didn’t realise it was parties that I have known about for 15 years.The last time I attend these sort of parties was about 10 years ago.Do you think it’s it’s worth while sending a message to admin sharing my knowledge or will they think that I am slandering the young lady on Fabs with 20 odd verifications.The last thing I want is to get my self banned " Only report to admin if they have asked for payment and are current profiles on fab. | |||
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"Why does every one have it in for escorts , " We don't theres just no room for them here on a gen Swingers site. Put the shoe on the other foot. Would they like it if we went on there websites advertising "free sex". I think not. | |||
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"I think what everyone has lost about this thread is the impression these events have on the new people in the lifestyle.... For a single male this can be detrimental to his outlook on swinging... if a new single males first experience with swinging is paying $100 for a gangbang... he will think going to a club for $40-60 is a bargain... then proceed to act entitled to fuck every woman in the club because he paid $40-60 to get in... For a new couple being invited to a party and being offered money for sex , can put them off swinging... plus they might think all swingers do this for money.... We can’t let a few bad apples spoil the bunch... So I’m very happy the Op posted this" You missed the point! The couple of " swingers" don't get offered any money. They do it for free. Its the Escorts at the parties who get paid. The swingers are there just to boost numbers. | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea " 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? " But the genuine swingers stay away from the “escort” parties so it keeps those type of men away from the normal parties surely | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? " It also has knock on effects of causing some guys to confuse swinging women and those looking for money. Some of those guys think they can make demands of us, treat us badly, then wave money at us to make it better. (yes, I report, block, delete when it happens, but I'd rather there be a clear dividing line so it doesn't) | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? But the genuine swingers stay away from the “escort” parties so it keeps those type of men away from the normal parties surely " It doesn't. | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? It also has knock on effects of causing some guys to confuse swinging women and those looking for money. Some of those guys think they can make demands of us, treat us badly, then wave money at us to make it better. (yes, I report, block, delete when it happens, but I'd rather there be a clear dividing line so it doesn't) " If I'd have accepted the money offered for meets and used underwear over the years I'd be bloody rich by now lol. I report the block all those that do this. | |||
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"When I ran regular GBs I used to ask guys to bring along a bottle of wine 'for the lady.' Someone once said I should not ask for anything, how come people are getting away with asking for £100/" I used to normally keep the unopened wines bottles as they covered for the hassle of cleaning up after 10 to 30 plus people people partying. | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? It also has knock on effects of causing some guys to confuse swinging women and those looking for money. Some of those guys think they can make demands of us, treat us badly, then wave money at us to make it better. (yes, I report, block, delete when it happens, but I'd rather there be a clear dividing line so it doesn't) If I'd have accepted the money offered for meets and used underwear over the years I'd be bloody rich by now lol. I report the block all those that do this. " Blimey if I was you I’d have sold my knickers and made a few bob lol it’s not same as selling your body | |||
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"If it keeps the single guys happy and they all get a bit of fun then whose it hurting? You know what the night is really all about so just stay away from them if it’s not your cuppa tea 1. They expect and feel entitled to their bit of fun from genuine swinging female/couples and can get shitty when they don't get it 2. They are breaking site rules by charging for sex and should stick to their own sites if they want to do that. 3. A previous poster said about offering it for free on their sites, very good point made there. They wouldn't like or put up with it so why should we? It also has knock on effects of causing some guys to confuse swinging women and those looking for money. Some of those guys think they can make demands of us, treat us badly, then wave money at us to make it better. (yes, I report, block, delete when it happens, but I'd rather there be a clear dividing line so it doesn't) " Yes I can see your point now maybe it does blurt the lines for them! You’ve changed the way I look at it | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. If anything, i would be more concerned that, as they are escorts, men would get a sure thing, when it gets to playing, because the ones going are escorts. Because they were unaware of this, some may take on that entitled attitude when it comes to other parties and clubs " Exactly this. There are fairly regular parties like this in our area, and they are very popular with the single guys, and having enquired about going to one when they first popped up we know why. It was made very clear by one of the organisers that all guys attending would be sure of having sex, as if none of the paying guests played with them, the girls who were part of the organising group would. This sets up a false sense of entitlement for the guys, some of whom seem to attend regularly, and this is bound to have a knock-on effect at clubs, socials and other events. | |||
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"We just stay away from all this fracas. Not for us. It's like serving your wife on a platter to paying males. Pimping would be the right word " Pimping is the definately the right word. | |||
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"Who is, or was, Cynthia. Payne.?" She was a madam who ran a brothel and took some payments in luncheon vouchers. | |||
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"Who is, or was, Cynthia. Payne.? She was a madam who ran a brothel and took some payments in luncheon vouchers. " Oh, l see, lol. | |||
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"Another take on the phrase greedy girls party! Blurs the lines, gives a false sense of entitlement which can end up spilling over onto here. " Totally agree that these type of paying parties will give people a false sense of entitlement. This will also spill over into legitimate clubs, parties and 1-1meets. Just because women are on fab they will think we should be catering for their needs not ours. | |||
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"Who is, or was, Cynthia. Payne.? She was a madam who ran a brothel and took some payments in luncheon vouchers. " Luncheon Vouchers....blast from the past! | |||
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"Who is, or was, Cynthia. Payne.? She was a madam who ran a brothel and took some payments in luncheon vouchers. Luncheon Vouchers....blast from the past!" Pleasure your truncheon in exchange for vouchers of Luncheon | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! " That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . | |||
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"Select single men = finding some desperate goon willing to fork out £100 lol " you never spent more than £100 on a date hoping to have sex? | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. You dont have to go to the parties You know that, right?" THIS!!! | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . " | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . without my knowledge??? i know perfectly well whats happening and im perfectly ok with it???" The swinging couples and single ladies are often the ones without the knowledge that they are used as bait. By all means go and pay for sex with a prostitute, if that's your thing, but I'd rather not be used as bait by prositutes to lure fee paying men in, so that they can profit on us being there. It's deception and the organisers know that and keep it under the radar. | |||
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"This is taking advantage of single men and its disgustingly extortion...tut tut....wake up lads and avoid parties like this." When I had my Stockport and Pendlebury apartments WGs used to work from them, paid me by the hour for using them, However they had no connection with the swinging things I didm, GBs, massages etc. I have known WGs who have also swung but that was a totally different thing to the work. I have also known swingers who have taken up escortin. One said said to me that after her first visit to a swingers club she thought I can be fucked by lots of strangers and enjoy it. Shortly after that she gave up her job as a college lecturer in IT and took up escorting. She did have really good website | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . without my knowledge??? i know perfectly well whats happening and im perfectly ok with it??? The swinging couples and single ladies are often the ones without the knowledge that they are used as bait. By all means go and pay for sex with a prostitute, if that's your thing, but I'd rather not be used as bait by prositutes to lure fee paying men in, so that they can profit on us being there. It's deception and the organisers know that and keep it under the radar." | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . without my knowledge??? i know perfectly well whats happening and im perfectly ok with it???" I am not talking about horny men here at all who would pay 100£ to get laid. I am talking about cpls here who are lured into these parties to be served to paying clients. | |||
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"We have spoke about this as a fantasy, purely as a fuckit list tick box of her being pimped out for money, just once as a fantasy fulfilment, not sure if it will ever be a reality though " We enacted this as a role play once but I was the customer for my slut wife and we did it at home. But neither of us will agree to visit a club where she will be prostituted to paying clients. It's different ,isn't ? How women would feel if their male half will get paid for sex from others ? | |||
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"We have spoke about this as a fantasy, purely as a fuckit list tick box of her being pimped out for money, just once as a fantasy fulfilment, not sure if it will ever be a reality though We enacted this as a role play once but I was the customer for my slut wife and we did it at home. But neither of us will agree to visit a club where she will be prostituted to paying clients. It's different ,isn't ? How women would feel if their male half will get paid for sex from others ? " We haven't actually thought it through and would never dream of doing it at a club, not to fellow swingers but maybe an advert on a well known adult work type website and see where it leads, safety and security is the main issue, but anyway may never happen | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . without my knowledge??? i know perfectly well whats happening and im perfectly ok with it??? I am not talking about horny men here at all who would pay 100£ to get laid. I am talking about cpls here who are lured into these parties to be served to paying clients. " well thats a different story then, im talking about consenting adults. | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! Did you get your money back after you fucked her? that wasn't part of the arrangement So you didn't loan them your money. You paid to have sex with his wife. Maybe that makes them feel better about her being a prostitute but they should say it like it is and not be ashamed to call it prostitution. " if you knew what the arrangement involved then youd know that wasn't the case. my point is simple, why do people get there knickers in a twist when adults do things like the said above... | |||
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"We are old school hardened swingers. Not judgemental not shockable, and done 99.9% of "Swinging kinks" Just of late we have come across greedy girl parties. Advertised as genuine greedy girl swingers. However delving into these parties, we've found they are run by Escorts & retired escorts. They invite a couple of swinger couples to boost numbers. Having spoken to a few men who have attended the parties it's all about the money. As I said we're not shockable or judgemental. However we feel, that men paying over the odds to attend these parties is morallay wrong. Yes, we pay an enterance fee to get into clubs. £30 you'd pay this money nite clubbin. Swingers have planned and unplanned sexual encounters with no money changing hands. Why should "these parties" get finaical gain from us "free swingers"? Basically these parties are Escorts earning money under the gize of Swinging. I may have put the cat among the pidgeon. But hay, I'm a swinger, I don't get paid for what we do. " abfabs when a going concern charged newbies £75 to get in plus hotel ,travel expenses and alcohol so an expensive night out not that much difference really but I get what you're saying we as a community promote free sex let the free sex continue | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. So are you saying that it is ok to trick couples and single fems to go to parties that men are paying a lot of money to attend? Are you ok with prostitutes profiting and deceiving people, men included? who said they was tricked? " Me! We were invited. Its onky when i did some research i realised they were all prostitutes. Then i found out how much they were charging single men and the profit involved. | |||
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"for what its worth iv spent more than that on a date to sleep with a girl... plus iv 'loaned' a guy money and 'loaned' me his wife in the past in a agreed arrangement between the 3 of us. if people are ok with exchanging money for sex in any way shape or form thats peoples business, i dont see why people get so worked up over consenting adults actions!! That's not the point . Cpls and girls are allowed either free at nominal charges so they come in numbers, which in turn can be used as a magnet for paying single men. That's out and out prostitution without your knowledge. All they do is provide a place and the ambience of horny people . without my knowledge??? i know perfectly well whats happening and im perfectly ok with it??? The swinging couples and single ladies are often the ones without the knowledge that they are used as bait. By all means go and pay for sex with a prostitute, if that's your thing, but I'd rather not be used as bait by prositutes to lure fee paying men in, so that they can profit on us being there. It's deception and the organisers know that and keep it under the radar." | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. So are you saying that it is ok to trick couples and single fems to go to parties that men are paying a lot of money to attend? Are you ok with prostitutes profiting and deceiving people, men included? who said they was tricked? Me! We were invited. Its onky when i did some research i realised they were all prostitutes. Then i found out how much they were charging single men and the profit involved." well tgats not good. but if you think escorts dont operate here or in clubs your mistaken, yes i know its against the rules and alot dont agree with it but it happens and people are willing participants so for me its a case of leave them be. being tricked is totally wrong i agree with you there 100%. but if alls willing i dont see any problem | |||
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"Thing is , if you have paid that much money then you will expect to get some fun out of it , won't you? You will be invited to the party with promise of sexy naughty women attending, or else why would you go to a sausage fest. But would you expect that women and cpls should also be charged same as you? " club or party think about it what's the difference? Not a lot really same difference, guys pay a high fee down south to get into clubs £45/55 entry and some not all expect to get something for that money it's same difference very few people would hand over that sort of money no matter what it's for and expect to get nothing for it ?women pay nominal fees to get into clubs and couples get a cheaper rate but still we pay and what is the concensus on the product we are paying for ,ok let's say walking across threshold ,standing and chatting to like minded people (dressed) providing your own alcohol and maybe just maybe ( slim to zero chance for some ) sex may be had but you can bet your life " the product" that we go to that club for is in general sex and most ,not all ,expect it else why go ,you could do most of the social aspect in a pub and pay nothing but the price of the alcohol | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. So are you saying that it is ok to trick couples and single fems to go to parties that men are paying a lot of money to attend? Are you ok with prostitutes profiting and deceiving people, men included? who said they was tricked? Me! We were invited. Its onky when i did some research i realised they were all prostitutes. Then i found out how much they were charging single men and the profit involved. well tgats not good. but if you think escorts dont operate here or in clubs your mistaken, yes i know its against the rules and alot dont agree with it but it happens and people are willing participants so for me its a case of leave them be. being tricked is totally wrong i agree with you there 100%. but if alls willing i dont see any problem " There is a problem. This is a swinging site not an escort site. They shouldn't be on here. Simple. | |||
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"Men who says that they pay 50£ entry fee for a club just to enjoy social life are basically fooling themselves and others. You go to a swinging clubs for sex ..simple. I personally do not agree with this entry fee structure at all. Everybody should b equally charged. If you are charging less or free to a single women then you are making her feel that men have paid for the same event so can have sex . " | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex " no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem " people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok " Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here " sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem " Exactly the very basic thing of exorbitant entry fee for men itself is in question . That's my point . | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem Exactly the very basic thing of exorbitant entry fee for men itself is in question . That's my point ." I love your point | |||
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"Men who says that they pay 50£ entry fee for a club just to enjoy social life are basically fooling themselves and others. You go to a swinging clubs for sex ..simple. I personally do not agree with this entry fee structure at all. Everybody should b equally charged. If you are charging less or free to a single women then you are making her feel that men have paid for the same event so can have sex . " | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested " They were trying to use us as bait, knowing we didnt play with men. Men in clubs are more than aware that alot if couples/fems are not looking for men. These were sold tickets saying xx no of couples are going, you will get sex for your £100. The clubs we go to men arwnt ripped off and arent expecting a guaranteed fuck. Tho this is about private parties. | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested They were trying to use us as bait, knowing we didnt play with men. Men in clubs are more than aware that alot if couples/fems are not looking for men. These were sold tickets saying xx no of couples are going, you will get sex for your £100. The clubs we go to men arwnt ripped off and arent expecting a guaranteed fuck. Tho this is about private parties." it actually said that on the men's ticket stubs ? | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested They were trying to use us as bait, knowing we didnt play with men. Men in clubs are more than aware that alot if couples/fems are not looking for men. These were sold tickets saying xx no of couples are going, you will get sex for your £100. The clubs we go to men arwnt ripped off and arent expecting a guaranteed fuck. Tho this is about private parties." I'd love to see a ticket stub | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested They were trying to use us as bait, knowing we didnt play with men. Men in clubs are more than aware that alot if couples/fems are not looking for men. These were sold tickets saying xx no of couples are going, you will get sex for your £100. The clubs we go to men arwnt ripped off and arent expecting a guaranteed fuck. Tho this is about private parties.I'd love to see a ticket stub " | |||
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"It's still not about consent, it's the concept which is wrong . in your opinion. It's not swinging then, is it ? It's basically paying for spending time with like-minded women or cpls who have paid less than you , to see if you get your moneys worth. I.e sex no its not swinging. the whole site and club thing is open to abuse. it always has been and always will be... its down to the individual whats ok and what isnt. yes they have site and club rules but they will always be broken 100%, aslong as i know what im letting myself in for and im ok with it or anyone is for that matter then no hard done. fellas want to pay £50+ or whatever entry fee, no problem. people want to cover total cost of a hotel room, no problem. people want to pay for drinks for the whole night, no problem people want to pay a £100 for the suggestion of sex yes ok Cos they certainly werent gonna get it from us. No interest in single men....but hey tgere is a fem here sorry you've lost me ,i know you're a couple and a woman is part of couple ,I also knew you were looking for couples or women ,I agree you were mislead by the party organisers but my experience of this scene makes me wary of any scenario including clubs it's all bottom line about money ........sex sells ......no salesmen involved ........you go to meet like minded people that you as a couple find attractive and you for want of a better word fuck them ,so private party or club similar reasons for going at the party the men unbeknown to you were charged £100 (fools) a fool and his money easily parted but those men still have same attitude as men who enter a club and you as a couple still in either scenario still not interested They were trying to use us as bait, knowing we didnt play with men. Men in clubs are more than aware that alot if couples/fems are not looking for men. These were sold tickets saying xx no of couples are going, you will get sex for your £100. The clubs we go to men arwnt ripped off and arent expecting a guaranteed fuck. Tho this is about private parties.I'd love to see a ticket stub " have you got one ? | |||
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