FabSwingers.com forum: Can You Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger ?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

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By *r.BlondeMan
over a year ago

Chester/Wirral

Why do you think so many peoples face pics are hidden.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

The only reason you could lose your job is if you pictured yourself in something that identifies your employers or use it to bribe/coerce a colleague or something similar.

If they suspended her for simply being a swinger, I sugges she sues the pants of them as that is UTTERLY illegal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It depends on your job I suppose.

I would say for the most part it shouldn't impact your job whatsoever however, I imagine if you were a teacher for example it "could" be deemed inappropriate especially if it ran the risk of meeting parents of potential pupils. This could in turn result in you being told to "behave" appropriately or leave the job.

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By *hrisUB3Man
over a year ago

Heathrow

My Bishop would take a very dim view of it if he found out!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This only effects people with a security clearance and those that have morality stipulations in their employment contracts....

Also people that work for religious organizations.....

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"My Bishop would take a very dim view of it if he found out!"

He’s probably down the local fet club being flogged.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

The only reason you could lose your job is if you pictured yourself in something that identifies your employers or use it to bribe/coerce a colleague or something similar.

If they suspended her for simply being a swinger, I sugges she sues the pants of them as that is UTTERLY illegal."

They stated to her that if found guilty they would be acting that she was bring her company into disrepute.

I'm sure if they had tons of proof, photos of her swinging with couples or doing something dodgy in regarding form fabswingers then they would have taken it further but she got out of it somehow

but she's just an example I used, I'm talking about any jobs or important jobs etc..

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"This only effects people with a security clearance and those that have morality stipulations in their employment contracts....

Also people that work for religious organizations....."

There’s loads of clergy on the scene as well as quite a few military folk.

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By *yvanwy black wild childTV/TS
over a year ago

Northwich

I hope not as they all know what I do where I work and they all ways know when I've had a good 2 days of or a good hoilday by the smile on my face

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By *estless nativeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

If there is a risk to the employers reputation then yeah you could potentially lose your job, doesnt apply only to swinging of course.

Most employers will have a section in your contract or t's & c's regarding bringing the company into disrepute.

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By *e ja vue 2Couple
over a year ago

MANCHESTER

Your private life is just that PRIVATE

Unless you are pictured swinging in a works livered vehicle or in a uniform or of course your actual place of work then I would think you would be able to sue the arse of whoever sacked you for your own private persuits

Can you be sacked for enjoying weekend walks ? Going to football?

Rock climbing?

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

The phrase used is usually "bringing the company name into disrepute"

But if it's in private life (not work) and not wearing a uniform or logo, tell the company that its no concern of theirs.

And inform the police about the stalker.

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By *ade and VanessaCouple
over a year ago

Central Scotland

I've had morality clauses in contracts before. I don't know exactly how far I'd need to go or what proof there would need to be to terminate a contract though but certainly something that could be threatened. Certainly stopped the porn career alongside the 9-5 happening though

V x

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By *rallvalCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger?"

Yes.

I have clauses in my contract regarding 'conduct unbecoming' and 'bringing into disrepute'.

I know of a teacher who lost her job and a policeman who lost his.

She was outed by an ex pupil and he was reported by a couple at a meet. Don't know the details of the meet.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone

Some people are in positions where they may have to make judgements on other people’s lives .. magistrates, police officers, social workers etc. If someone could prove those people were leading what could be considered immoral lives it could make their jobs difficult and skew people’s opinion of their ability to judge or support others.

Sadly, swinging os still considered immoral by some and could change the way others view us so many of us like our private lives to remain that way.

Lou x

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

I run my own business, so unless I wanted to fire myself I’m sure I’ll be fine!

It’s also worth stating that in my view it would be thoroughly against the rules to dismiss someone for doing something legal in their private life, especially if there’s no mention of the company. I’d never put anything like that in an employment contract anyway.

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By *wansfeetCouple
over a year ago

Guisborough

I work in a school. The other staff know I swing. It’s not an issue.

Kiki

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By *ab_SparklesWoman
over a year ago

sparkle Surprised

Not me but my ex disliked a guy i was swinging with before him but it turned out he was a controller. He rang the person job up most of told lies like been in my house while working. Not the case, I was in the car an him my ex sat next to me. I got a call from the guy job. Asking questions one what I was told were lies and two i should never have been contacted. The guy kept his job because he hadn't done anything wrong. But my ex was lived cause I didn't do what he wanted. The guy worked within the government..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It depends on your job I suppose.

I look at it this way..... if a person is homosexual and frequents gay bars and occasionally meets up with other gay people for sex, (which also happens in ‘normal’ bars), would anything be said to them about this? You can bet your ass it wouldn’t be as they would be sued so fast their feet wouldn’t touch the ground......

it’s no different than 50 odd years ago when people were being victimised in their jobs for being gay..

It’s because swinging is the last taboo

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

The only reason you could lose your job is if you pictured yourself in something that identifies your employers or use it to bribe/coerce a colleague or something similar.

If they suspended her for simply being a swinger, I sugges she sues the pants of them as that is UTTERLY illegal.

They stated to her that if found guilty they would be acting that she was bring her company into disrepute.

I'm sure if they had tons of proof, photos of her swinging with couples or doing something dodgy in regarding form fabswingers then they would have taken it further but she got out of it somehow

but she's just an example I used, I'm talking about any jobs or important jobs etc..

They would try to get her sacked for having sex? Because unless she’s done anything else, they wouldn’t stand a chance.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

Depends totally on the job, the company & your contractual requirements.

If your contract has a clause about ‘disrepute’ then chances are you could potentially lose your job if found out.

Also if you work in a job where you need to adhere to certain standards - religious roles, social workers etc

But there are a lot of roles where you might not lose your job directly, but your career option may become restricted, passed over for promotions, moved to different departments that are not what you want to do etc ... forcing you out that way.

It’s going to be different for everyone!

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By *uminsiderMKMan
over a year ago

St Austell

The disrepute clause is often a 'catch all' that some companies use to good effect - two managers where I used to work lost their jobs for what was deemed to be disreputable behaviour outside both the workplace and working hours...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

I lost my job due to my sex addiction. An anonymous stalker hacked my account screen shot message threads and married these up with verifications and dates etc when I should have been working and sent them to my office !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This only effects people with a security clearance and those that have morality stipulations in their employment contracts....

Also people that work for religious organizations.....

There’s loads of clergy on the scene as well as quite a few military folk."

The laws might be different in the UK... but I have played with 1 Greek Orthodox priest couple and 1 orthodox Jewish Rabbi couple. They explicitly told me if they were found out. They would lose their jobs...

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By *ucy. AlCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

No it is illegal under the discrimination act - a protectepd characteristic being sexual orientation / preference - that i hope most people on here would agree includes swinging

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By *ucy. AlCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Taken from the equality act

the headings of age, disability, gender reassignment, race, religion or belief, sex, sexual orientation, marriage and civil partnership, and pregnancy and maternity are now to be known as 'protected characteristics'.9 Oct 2017

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No unless you bring your company into disrepute

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
over a year ago

Tamworth

"This only effects people with a security clearance and those that have morality stipulations in their employment contracts....

Also people that work for religious organizations....."

I declared my swinging lifestyle at DV and no one cares, as long as they know so it can't be used against you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I could. I'm in a position of trust and authority.

My contract states that I cannot partake in any activity outside of work, that will bring the company or reputation into disrepute.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Your private life is just that PRIVATE

Can you be sacked for enjoying weekend walks ? Going to football?

Rock climbing? "

Scenarios

If your a teacher in a primary school, a parent is informed that the school teacher is a swingers, says what site, profile details, pictures etc.., that parent tells other parents, do you think the parents who are non swingers wont do anything about it, they will go to school to protest, to take their child out. the school will then have to take action, suspension with pay etc.. until proven as the schools reputation will be put online and if its a private school, certainly reputation is important.

A man or female of the cloth, same scenario, do you think they would still be able to keep their job.

A member of parliament caught out as a swinger, do you think they will keep their job, might be forced to quit etc...

Footballers you say, as an ex professional player who is now a coach, I work for a professional football team in the youth section, yes I believe I could lose my job if parents found out I was a swinger. Footballers are in a precarious job because company reputation is so very important.

Only a few examples I have given that I do not know if you could or could not lose your job because of those situations were to arise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do you think so many peoples face pics are hidden."

because their ashamed

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I run my own business, so unless I wanted to fire myself I’m sure I’ll be fine!

Similar situation.

I was always discreet about being a swinger, confided in no one.

I ran my own business at Airport with 45 workers. I brought in big accounts to keep everyone busy. Some government accounts, some with private schools etc... all workers who were dealing with clients, customers, under age had to go through disclosure.

If it was found out but my main clients that I was a swinger, I know for a fact I would have lost some of those contracts, if I did I would have had to let most of the workers go so they would lose their job due to swinging , indirectly. Not the same as direct involvement, I give you that but I would lose the contracts because it was bring these companies into disrepute thus, contract lost

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *aughty But Nice TwiceWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

The only reason you could lose your job is if you pictured yourself in something that identifies your employers or use it to bribe/coerce a colleague or something similar.

If they suspended her for simply being a swinger, I sugges she sues the pants of them as that is UTTERLY illegal."

Totally this it's your personal life got nothing to do with your work x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

Hang on, she had a stalker who potentially broke revenge poem laws and they suspended her???

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why do you think so many peoples face pics are hidden.

because their ashamed

I was gonna say they don't have a '14' million pixel camera and their camera makes their pics not look too flattering. I thought that was the main reason for everyone hiding pics

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By *sLillyMrWolfeCouple
over a year ago

near you...

You can get fired easily enough for "bringing the profession into disrepute" if you're a doctor or senior civil servant. Ask any of your doctor friends

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a word .... yes.

Trust me. You can. And some people have very strong views on this. Doesn't matter if you are single, if it's consensual with your other half or if you both swing. If work want you gone, they will find a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone who works in a job where a DBS is required needs to be so careful.

Nakey pic sharing could land you in serious hot water if someone complains about pics sent, an entry onto the sexual offenders register and a disclosure on your DBS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who works in a job where a DBS is required needs to be so careful.

Nakey pic sharing could land you in serious hot water if someone complains about pics sent, an entry onto the sexual offenders register and a disclosure on your DBS.

You can't be put on the sex offenders register for sharing naked pics with adults.

Jesus Christ...talk about scaremongering

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes you can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was suspensed under sexual harrassment after a female college was asking me about swinging clubs, however due to the fact that i was only prividing info that she'd requested it was dismissed, could have been quite differant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was suspensed under sexual harrassment after a female college was asking me about swinging clubs, however due to the fact that i was only prividing info that she'd requested it was dismissed, could have been quite differant!"

I've a feeling that's not even close to actual events

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Yes you can "

Only if they are unsolicited.

And if you all want to take this further, how about checking out some of the photos on this site that are moderated before being shown and clearly break UK law.

Swinging and having a job does not bring anything into disrepute but if you posted compromising pics of you in your uniform or capitalised on your job to get sex then you are clearly stupid and in hot water.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"No it is illegal under the discrimination act - a protectepd characteristic being sexual orientation / preference - that i hope most people on here would agree includes swinging"

I don't think that is true.

The Equality Act makes it illegal to discriminate on the grounds of sexuality, that's true.

So it would make no difference if your Cert 18 pics that appeared in the Sun were of opposite-sex or same-sex - you'd get the sack either way at my work place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be discreet, don't brazenly shove your sex life in everyone's face...and most of us, whether swingers or not, can safely carry on having their own kinda sex and still receive their salary at the end of every month

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even if you are straight it is always worth completing your employer's diversity data as bi-sexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Be discreet, don't brazenly shove your sex life in everyone's face...and most of us, whether swingers or not, can safely carry on having their own kinda sex and still receive their salary at the end of every month

This.

No one can be sacked for swinging but most of us can be sacked for bringing a company in to disrepute.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

Lots of ifs......

If their contract mentions codes of conduct and behaviours.

If their contract mentions bringing the company into disrepute or impacting on its reputation.

If they're breaking the law.

If their actions can be seen to be breaching these terms, probably.

If the contract doesn't and they're doing nothing wrong, probably not.

To the best of my knowledge you can't be fired for being a swinger.

When I was interviewed for my current role I had to declare all of my interests, preferences and "activities"......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is a lifestyle choice it is not sexual orientation therefore not a protected characteristic.

The disrepute clause is absolutely a catch all and if a company want you out it can and would be used very effectively.

Most people see this site and their activities linked to it or elsewhere as a small part of their life that's just not worth risking their livelihood over.

Like so many have said it is your private life and for the most part people appreciate discretion.

Lastly I think not having a public face picture, being careful what you post and just being cautious in general is wise. While some may spout the whole I'm not ashamed card or its my life my choice, I think personally they are reckless

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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago

A world all of his own

I can't imagine that my employers would give a flying fuck (pun intended).

My personal life has no bearing on my work life.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I run my own business, so unless I wanted to fire myself I’m sure I’ll be fine!

Have you thought about what your clients/customers would say?

Or how the adverse publicity could affect your business?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I can't imagine that my employers would give a flying fuck (pun intended).

My personal life has no bearing on my work life. "

Ask them.

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

One guy at work was outed from a porn site which involved body fluids and other things. Him and his wife charge a subscription for viewing their movies. Everyone knows about it now and work couldn't care less as he turns up does his work and goes home. The job we do involves being responsible for the safety of literally hundreds of people at a time while they are with us for the short time we have them.

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By *andonmessMan
over a year ago

A world all of his own

"I can't imagine that my employers would give a flying fuck (pun intended).

My personal life has no bearing on my work life.

Ask them.

Lol no need. Considering we've had people employed with us who have criminal records (including custodial sentences etc) I don't think swinging would bother them overly

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

What you do in your private life has nothing to do with your work ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who works in a job where a DBS is required needs to be so careful.

Nakey pic sharing could land you in serious hot water if someone complains about pics sent, an entry onto the sexual offenders register and a disclosure on your DBS.

You can't be put on the sex offenders register for sharing naked pics with adults.

Jesus Christ...talk about

scaremongering "

I stand corrected, you can end up on the register if you are under 18, adults can still be charged with sexual harrasment, which can show up on an enhanced DBS.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone who works in a job where a DBS is required needs to be so careful.

Nakey pic sharing could land you in serious hot water if someone complains about pics sent, an entry onto the sexual offenders register and a disclosure on your DBS.

You can't be put on the sex offenders register for sharing naked pics with adults.

Jesus Christ...talk about

scaremongering

I stand corrected, you can end up on the register if you are under 18, adults can still be charged with sexual harrasment, which can show up on an enhanced DBS.

Not if you are swapping pictures mutually. That's a ludicrous suggestion

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Poole, but up in lincs for a bit

Very unlikely. Think I'd be told to keep it outside the workplace but no one would really give a damn what I do in my free time. Luckily. Everyone I work with is sound as.

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By *rallvalCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

"Swinging is a lifestyle choice it is not sexual orientation therefore not a protected characteristic.

You are correct but there is a little wiggle room in there I think.

A happily married bisexual person has the option of openly having sex with a same sex partner or sneaking about behind their partners back.

You could argue that swinging is the way in which a married person can fully express their sexuality without lying to their partner.

That brings it into the protected area. Most HR departments would run a mile before testing that in court.

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By *ookworm258Man
over a year ago

Wythenshawe

Someone at my work outed me as been on Fab, proceeded to show everyone and this included the directors and MD. It hasnt affected my role within the company.

Whoever had used the company computers within worktime to view Fab would be at more risk of getting fired as its a breach of internet security and viewing of adult material

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not if you are swapping pictures mutually. That's a ludicrous suggestion"

All it takes is for the recipient to turn vile and file a complaint.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not if you are swapping pictures mutually. That's a ludicrous suggestion

All it takes is for the recipient to turn vile and file a complaint.

Which still wouldn't logically lead to a conviction for sexual harassment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Which still wouldn't logically lead to a conviction for sexual harassment "

It potentially could.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

No, of course not what you do in your personal life is your business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I swear some people can’t see the Forrest beyond the trees....

Do you think a person working for a religious organization can be a swinger? And still represent the organization....

Please explain this to me.....

I’ve seen celebrities lose their job over posting inappropriate comments online , d*unk driving, and adulterous actions....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell I hope not!

Just imagine if that was true!

We would have no Police men or fireman, forces or teachers left in the country working!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinging is a lifestyle choice it is not sexual orientation therefore not a protected characteristic.

The disrepute clause is absolutely a catch all and if a company want you out it can and would be used very effectively.

Most people see this site and their activities linked to it or elsewhere as a small part of their life that's just not worth risking their livelihood over.

Like so many have said it is your private life and for the most part people appreciate discretion.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"No, of course not what you do in your personal life is your business."

I'd suggest anyone who believes that checks their contract of employment very carefully.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

its been so interesting reading these replies

Thanks guys and gals and oh

Happy New year to you all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"I swear some people can’t see the Forrest beyond the trees....

Do you think a person working for a religious organization can be a swinger? And still represent the organization....

Please explain this to me.....

I’ve seen celebrities lose their job over posting inappropriate comments online , d*unk driving, and adulterous actions...."

Many people could lose their jobs over that lot, and often do because it’s usually a breach of their terms of employment.

I’m a retired Midwife and I’m now having a ball on social media not I’m not constantly having to be bland and polite.

Having sex isn’t a sackable offence. Having sex on cam in your uniform is.

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By *bwitchedWoman
over a year ago

Batley, West Yorkshire

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

My employer is fully aware that I am non monogamous as i became that a number of people i came across in day to day business communications were also on the scene. I opted to out myself rather than have it become an opportunity for accusations of wrongdoing, threats of being outed (b*ackmail) etc, and it has never been an issue. All my employer seems to care about is whether or not I'm good at my job and as what I do in my private time doesn't affect that there doesn't seem to be an issue.

Admittedly I'm not going out dogging in a sign written vehicle in company uniform, if i was there might be a different take on it. But I'm not, so there isn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the posting naked pics and pics engaging in sexual acts, is more of an issue than being a swinger.

Someone in a job that makes decisions such as a policeman/woman, judge, bank manager, (list is endless those are for example purposes only), anyone in a position that having their pics seen online would open them up to being bla£%mailed etc, I think this is part of the issue.

Of course plenty clauses in contracts (all of my previous jobs) include bringing the company into disrepute.

When I worked for police, we had plenty presentations and warnings about not even being allowed to be on dating websites. Not mentioning on fb about who we are employed by.

I don't think its necessarily bout discriminating against swingers, however I know its an issue in some circumstances.

Its a lot about being bribed, bla£*mailed into making decisions and judgements and making very very bad decisions in order to hide the photos etc.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

A female teacher was asked to resign, after someone found pictures of her in lingerie.

We have had several guys I used to work with got the sack, as the put their thoughts about the company on Facebook but never divulged the company name.

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By *rallvalCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Do you think a person working for a religious organization can be a swinger? And still represent the organization....

Please explain this to me.....

I know one minister who is a serial adulterer. He just says sorry and moves to a different parish. I know of four churches he has worked in so far and played around with married women in each. We also have the Catholic priests who fiddle with kids or father kids and still stay in the church.

I would guess that if you can do that and get away with it then swinging is low on the list.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

"No, of course not what you do in your personal life is your business.

I'd suggest anyone who believes that checks their contract of employment very carefully."

I know MP have been sacked for having rent boys and I know that most companies carry a I shell not bring shame upon the company policy or what ever it.

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"No, of course not what you do in your personal life is your business.

I'd suggest anyone who believes that checks their contract of employment very carefully.

I know MP have been sacked for having rent boys and I know that most companies carry a I shell not bring shame upon the company policy or what ever it.

Keith Vaz wasn’t sacked!

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By *antra MassageMan
over a year ago

Wicklow

If it could be considered contrary to your company's "ethos", yes, you can be sacked.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it could be considered contrary to your company's "ethos", yes, you can be sacked. "

No way... as long as you’re not doing it on company time or wearing your uniform....

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Yes you can.

I've known people lose jobs for what companies have stated were breaches of reputational disrepute clauses where innappropriate behaviour has been publicly displayed. These include verbal abuse when d*unk, posting contraversial statements on social media and yes - even public nudity. Two took them to tribunals and lost.

So since it's happened for those I've no doubt swinging could equally be construed as a breach.

It's not hard to avoid though. Just don't post full body and face graphic nudes or anything explicit that can identify you. Keep your face pics vanilla. Even if someone disclosed it to your work with the fabswingers logo on them you just front it out and say it's been done without your knowledge.

Surely a job is more important than any sense of 'i'm doing nothing wrong'?

Principles don't put food on the table.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes you can.

So since it's happened for those I've no doubt swinging could equally be construed as a breach.

Surely a job is more important than any sense of 'i'm doing nothing wrong'?

Principles don't put food on the table.

Very well said...... the law enforcement employees on Fab need to take note and be extra discreet.....

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By *ed PetalCouple
over a year ago

Kent

"I swear some people can’t see the Forrest beyond the trees....

Do you think a person working for a religious organization can be a swinger? And still represent the organization....

Please explain this to me.....

I’ve seen celebrities lose their job over posting inappropriate comments online , d*unk driving, and adulterous actions....

Many people could lose their jobs over that lot, and often do because it’s usually a breach of their terms of employment.

I’m a retired Midwife and I’m now having a ball on social media not I’m not constantly having to be bland and polite.

Having sex isn’t a sackable offence. Having sex on cam in your uniform is."

Ooh hey, fellow ex-midwife (not retired, just left this year in my case)

And yes, we both are fully aware that our employers might not take our shenanigans lightly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

Because it's my life, I own it.

I live and die by my choices

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"I swear some people can’t see the Forrest beyond the trees....

Do you think a person working for a religious organization can be a swinger? And still represent the organization....

Please explain this to me.....

I’ve seen celebrities lose their job over posting inappropriate comments online , d*unk driving, and adulterous actions....

Many people could lose their jobs over that lot, and often do because it’s usually a breach of their terms of employment.

I’m a retired Midwife and I’m now having a ball on social media not I’m not constantly having to be bland and polite.

Having sex isn’t a sackable offence. Having sex on cam in your uniform is.

Ooh hey, fellow ex-midwife (not retired, just left this year in my case)

And yes, we both are fully aware that our employers might not take our shenanigans lightly."

Hello!

I was forced into retirement, it was either kill or be killed and at many times it got close.

I miss working dreadfully.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If there is a risk to the employers reputation then yeah you could potentially lose your job, doesnt apply only to swinging of course.

Most employers will have a section in your contract or t's & c's regarding bringing the company into disrepute."

This..

Their corporate identity is protected in law and they will protect it from what they see as harm or negative publicity..

And its not just private companies..

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

I would suggest that no reasonable person who knows unreliable statutory interpretation is would want to be the first to take their company's 'morality' or 'disrepute' clause to a tribunal.

Readers of the forum will remember the twists and turns of the case of the cake and the writing supporting gay marriage.

If your work is fine with swinging go ahead and go public but those who are wary should not be treated as weak cowards. A lot of corporations and organisations would look dimly on employees swinging.

I would also suggest that fetish activity where consensual harm is caused is the last taboo.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman
over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

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By *eddonistikMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Someone at my work outed me as been on Fab, proceeded to show everyone and this included the directors and MD. It hasnt affected my role within the company.

Whoever had used the company computers within worktime to view Fab would be at more risk of getting fired as its a breach of internet security and viewing of adult material"

I thought of you and our recent conversation when I read the initial post.

I can see potential problems if you're doing things in company time and using a companies computeerz. Wearing a company uniforms or using company vehicles or premises but beyond that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Companies have so many ways of acting on this.

Generally all underhanded. As soon as a job / company associated. Then your at risk.

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

The CEO of where I work was plastered all over the papers a couple of years ago for being in a hotel with a lady who wasn't his wife.... investigated and all the company was worried about was if he had used company funds to pay for the hotel, he hadn't... carried on with his job and an internal memo saying it was a private matter to be resolved between him and his family.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your profession has a code of conduct that states you will uphold the public's confidence in that profession, then that is a can of worms. As we know the general public may not approve of swinging. Especially if the media are stirring it up. Not just swinging that can be an issue. Consider the social workers struck off the SW register as they shared a cartoon pic by email. Was the time of the Gary glitter scandal and the cartoon showed a man going through airport customs with a child stuffed in the suitcase. Distasteful yes. But each shared it privately. But through their work email. Nobody outside their friend circle knew until Press found out, big furore, 'public confidence' allegedly shattered. Imagine your entire profession being lost for that? Basically sharing a sick meme. Then imagine the press finding you were a swinger and outing you? Once press is involved absolutely jobs could be lost for being a swinger. Although if it happened to me I would fight it tooth and nail.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

"Anyone who works in a job where a DBS is required needs to be so careful.

Nakey pic sharing could land you in serious hot water if someone complains about pics sent, an entry onto the sexual offenders register and a disclosure on your DBS.

Blimey ..... that’s me done then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Taken from the equality act

IANAL (I’m not a lawyer... but also, ha!) but whilst those are protected characteristics none of them directly correlate to swinging. So for certain roles discussed previously (of a religious, social care, teaching nature) would likely be able to at least argue the disrepute or moral standards angle.

A lot of folk are saying “an employer wouldn’t dare... they’d get sued” etc. Which may well be the case... but would you want to put yourself through that and have to deal with lawyers, tribunals and the like for months? It boils down to the individuals appetite for risk in my opinion.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

If you have a morality clause in your contract (you can even be sacked for getting pregnant if unmarried ), need a security clearance, bring the company into disrepute etc then being a swinger could lead to dismissal.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Your private life is just that PRIVATE

Can you be sacked for enjoying weekend walks ? Going to football?

Rock climbing? "

I made a living, and was able to retire at 56 defending people who thought what I do in my own time is my business!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Swinging is a lifestyle choice it is not sexual orientation therefore not a protected characteristic.

The disrepute clause is absolutely a catch all and if a company want you out it can and would be used very effectively.

Most people see this site and their activities linked to it or elsewhere as a small part of their life that's just not worth risking their livelihood over.

Like so many have said it is your private life and for the most part people appreciate discretion.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"Yes you can.

So since it's happened for those I've no doubt swinging could equally be construed as a breach.

Surely a job is more important than any sense of 'i'm doing nothing wrong'?

Principles don't put food on the table.

Indeed!

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By *endrix30Man
over a year ago

dudley

"If you have a morality clause in your contract (you can even be sacked for getting pregnant if unmarried ), need a security clearance, bring the company into disrepute etc then being a swinger could lead to dismissal. "
Sounds like life in a dictatorship. If employers can own us and control everything we can and can't do in life then we might aswell pack up and move to North Korea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you have a morality clause in your contract (you can even be sacked for getting pregnant if unmarried ), need a security clearance, bring the company into disrepute etc then being a swinger could lead to dismissal. Sounds like life in a dictatorship. If employers can own us and control everything we can and can't do in life then we might aswell pack up and move to North Korea. "

We need money to pay our bills......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most contracts have some sort of phrase such as “doing something that could bring the company into disrepute” which could be used to fire a person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Probably

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as the employer is concerned what really is the difference between someone being a swinger and someone who goes out each weekend on the pull and has casual sex, someone who joins a website to arrange casual sex, someone who's cheating etc, etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If there is a risk to the employers reputation then yeah you could potentially lose your job, doesnt apply only to swinging of course.

Most employers will have a section in your contract or t's & c's regarding bringing the company into disrepute.

This..

Their corporate identity is protected in law and they will protect it from what they see as harm or negative publicity..

And its not just private companies.. "

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By *lsieWoman
over a year ago

where ever

Yes it happens .

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

I might just do a quick survey of all the posters who've said "it's my business what I do in my time blah blah blah" and see how many have words like "must be discreet" on their profiles.

That'll help bump the numbers on my block list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People can sacked for putting things on Facebook!

I would be checking contract terms and conditions and company handbooks. You'll find the majority will have a clause somewhere which could screw you whatever you get up to. If they find out about something and don't like it. They will find away to ditch you. Simple as...

Mistress Amelia x

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By *opman200Man
over a year ago

norwich

Yes you can depending on the terms of your contract.

I lost a lucrative business contract because of vicious Messer's on here.

That the reason I will not put pics on here.

Be careful

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

A thought experiment. What do you think more people would think was worse from a moral point of view

A. Cheating on your partner or

B. Swinging with your partner

I think most people would agree A. Most employers would not sack someone for having an affair. Given that it seems to me difficult to argue that an employee swinging would bring the company into disrepute.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Lost my job of 14 years with the council for being a swinger. Brought the employer into disrepute. Swinger rang my boss as a malicious move against me when I rejected him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lost my job of 14 years with the council for being a swinger. Brought the employer into disrepute. Swinger rang my boss as a malicious move against me when I rejected him.

Blimey that's very bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This only effects people with a security clearance and those that have morality stipulations in their employment contracts....

Also people that work for religious organizations....."

I highly doubt they would stand up in court. Can you imagine the Catholic Church taking somebody to a tribunal because they broke a morality code, I would love to be on the receiving end of that, they'd get torn to pieces

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

With jobs of a sensitive nature there would be concerned that an employ could leave themselves open to bl@ckm@il by being on a site such as fab.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Some people are in positions where they may have to make judgements on other people’s lives .. magistrates, police officers, social workers etc. If someone could prove those people were leading what could be considered immoral lives it could make their jobs difficult and skew people’s opinion of their ability to judge or support others.

Sadly, swinging os still considered immoral by some and could change the way others view us so many of us like our private lives to remain that way.

Lou x "

I think it's more to do with the possibility of those individuals being black mailed and using their position to influence the coercers intentions favourably.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"Taken from the equality act

Swinging is not covered. It’s a sexual behaviour or preference, rather than an orientation as far as the law is concerned. So you’ve no legal cover under the equality act.

If an employer wanted to end your contract because of a morality clause, they could.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"Even if you are straight it is always worth completing your employer's diversity data as bi-sexual."

Totally this!!

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"The CEO of where I work was plastered all over the papers a couple of years ago for being in a hotel with a lady who wasn't his wife.... investigated and all the company was worried about was if he had used company funds to pay for the hotel, he hadn't... carried on with his job and an internal memo saying it was a private matter to be resolved between him and his family."

CEO’s get big payouts when they’re fired. Companies don’t like doing it.

Ordinary workers don’t & they’re easy to sweep under the carpet.

Don’t measure what’s acceptable for the CEO to relate to what’s acceptable to you!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's not a risk I'd be willing to take.

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

Of course you can lose your job.

'Bringing the company into disrepute' is a sackable offense, especially for public servants - police, teachers, NHS workers etc etc. You can try to take it to an employment tribunal if you want, but it would be a waste of your money. Look at your contact, these days they even tell you about social media posts being against the company ethos will result in termination. You think swinger's stand much of a chance in comparison?

Most other public facing employers will not tolerate known swinger's in their employ and why should they? Most will agree that it's your business but as soon as it's public knowledge it takes a different dimension.

I know for a fact that my company would get rid of me within 5 minutes of confirmation of this lifestyle. Therefore, I hope, they'll never find out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Of course you can lose your job.

I know for a fact that my company would get rid of me within 5 minutes of confirmation of this lifestyle. Therefore, I hope, they'll never find out

But do you think that’s the right action for an employer to take?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't read the thread in detail, but I would actually be incredibly surprised if any employer tried to get away with firing a swinger provided they were open about it and whatever they got up to was 100% legal and consensual.

CofE, perhaps. Organisation devoted to sexual abstinence, probably!

But I think that the key thing for me would be the open-ness (I'm not, but that's because my nilla friends wouldn't get it). It's when people are ashamed that the possibility for coming under pressure opens up, which would scare the hell out of me if an employee was handling potentially sensitive information....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

Only if you drew attention to where you work.

Most likely she was suspended from work out of safety for her and others incase be attacked her or others at the workplace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as the employer is concerned what really is the difference between someone being a swinger and someone who goes out each weekend on the pull and has casual sex, someone who joins a website to arrange casual sex, someone who's cheating etc, etc."

Public perception

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

Only if you drew attention to where you work.

Most likely she was suspended from work out of safety for her and others incase be attacked her or others at the workplace

Crikey, she was accused of being a swinger, not a paedophile!

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By *omvampmMan
over a year ago

gillingham

As long as your personal activities don't interfere with your work it shouldn't ever be an issue as far as I'm concerned

We can all do whatever we want in our own time I guess being a swinger meself makes my opinions more liberal but you wudnt sack anyone for any other lifestyle choices infact many cases law wudnt allow you to so why should swinging be different

Infact as an employer I may only employ swingers from now on lol

At least where all happy and openminded accepting of each other friendly generally take good care of ourselves and have respect for others wants needs interests and opinions to be honest if yer look at a swinger makes a great employee

Plus Xmas office party be more fun joking aside someone's lifestyle choice shud not get them sacked swinger or anything else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

Only if you drew attention to where you work.

Most likely she was suspended from work out of safety for her and others incase be attacked her or others at the workplace

Crikey, she was accused of being a swinger, not a paedophile!"

I meant safety from yhe potrntial stalker

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By *eordiesCouple
over a year ago

newcastle

I know of a female swinger who was "outed" to the Company she worked for.

They were going to fire her, but then she declared that she was bi-sexual and swinging was her only safe way to meet other bi-sexual women.

Apparently the HR dept at her Company self-destructed when trying to work out the legal ramifications.

She kept her job.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

The only person that ever works for me is a swinger.

If I tried to sack her it would definitely cost me a shitload of money.

Divorces aren't cheap.........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes in my profession the WiFi blocks you from using fab

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

You can be sacked for being a swinger if it is linked to your company and that they feel it affects their reputation and brings the company into disrepute.

Therefore you should never have on your profile who you work for or give an obvious hint. A classic example is the number of Army guys who show photos of themselves in uniform.

Provided there are no obvious links then everybody on here should be safe and it would be a tough for any Company and HR department to sack a person.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

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What i dont get is, if a guy or girl goes out to a normal night club and pulls half the guys/girls in that club then nothing could happen, but if they are "official swingers" they can lose job. Bollox i.m.o

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes of course.

For example if your face is on your profile and someone recognised you and sends it to your boss, they could argue that it could bring the wrong attention to work & let you go.

I don’t agree with it at all, but sadly this happens.

A lady friend of mine is an escort and was sacked after a disgruntled ex sent her escort profiles to her boss which had her face on them.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

CEO’s get big payouts when they’re fired. Companies don’t like doing it.

Ordinary workers don’t & they’re easy to sweep under the carpet.

Don’t measure what’s acceptable for the CEO to relate to what’s acceptable to you!!

Good advice.......

I love all the people who are saying "as far as I'm concerned.......blah blah blah"

If you breach your Ts and Cs of employment, you are of no concern.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"As long as your personal activities don't interfere with your work it shouldn't ever be an issue as far as I'm concerned

Infact as an employer I may only employ swingers from now on lol

Plus Xmas office party be more fun joking aside someone's lifestyle choice shud not get them sacked swinger or anything else "

Your first few words nailed it; "As long as your personal activities don't interfere with your work......" if your activities bring the company into disrepute, attract unwanted publicity, they most certainly interfere with your work.

The self employed people who say " I can't sack myself" are naive too. Yes, you can't sack yourself, but your customers and clients can desert you in droves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you Lose Your Job Because Your A Swinger.

Had a friend on fab suspended from her job pending an investigation because a stalker messages her work place stating she was a swinger. She luckily kept her job as it couldn't be proved.

So what's your thoughts folks, do you know, have experience of job problem due to being a swinger.

The only reason you could lose your job is if you pictured yourself in something that identifies your employers or use it to bribe/coerce a colleague or something similar.

If they suspended her for simply being a swinger, I sugges she sues the pants of them as that is UTTERLY illegal."

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

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Because one is perceived as normal human interaction and one is perceived as being perverted, sick, disgusting, immoral, freaks, kinky etc.

You can see that, yes?

Bollocks it may be. Unfortunately thems the breaks.....

Companies really don't like employing freaks and perverts. It's bad for business.

That's why contracts of employment have morality and disrepute clauses, to protect the company image.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As long as your personal activities don't interfere with your work it shouldn't ever be an issue as far as I'm concerned

Infact as an employer I may only employ swingers from now on lol

Plus Xmas office party be more fun joking aside someone's lifestyle choice shud not get them sacked swinger or anything else

The self employed people who say " I can't sack myself" are naive too. Yes, you can't sack yourself, but your customers and clients can desert you in droves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know of a female swinger who was "outed" to the Company she worked for.

They were going to fire her, but then she declared that she was bi-sexual and swinging was her only safe way to meet other bi-sexual women.

Apparently the HR dept at her Company self-destructed when trying to work out the legal ramifications.

She kept her job."

Sexuality clause. Clever!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can be sacked for being a swinger if it is linked to your company and that they feel it affects their reputation and brings the company into disrepute.

Therefore you should never have on your profile who you work for or give an obvious hint. A classic example is the number of Army guys who show photos of themselves in uniform.

Provided there are no obvious links then everybody on here should be safe and it would be a tough for any Company and HR department to sack a person."

Agree with this. Some employers do specify that employees are not to put anything on social media that could identify them as working for the company. Such as company name, pictures with company uniform, logo etc. If you don't breach that then the company has no ground to stand on sacking you.

Mrs

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Can a person be sacked for going out clubbing and shagging someone different every Saturday night? Can a person be sacked for having an affair? Can a person be sacked for meeting folk for sex from tinder or PoF? Can a person be sacked for shagging someone they've just met in a shop? Why would being a "swinger" be any different?

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Also to note, being suspended at work is not a punishment. It takes the accused out of the situation and allows an impartial and thorough investigation. Seems these allegations were made, it was looked into and nothing came of it so the person went back to work.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Can a person be sacked for going out clubbing and shagging someone different every Saturday night? Can a person be sacked for having an affair? Can a person be sacked for meeting folk for sex from tinder or PoF? Can a person be sacked for shagging someone they've just met in a shop? Why would being a "swinger" be any different?"

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute "

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By *ockatwoCouple
over a year ago

leeds

Lol if you get fired for having sex outside of a relationship methinks the unemployment figures would go thru the roof

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute "

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?"

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students.

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

Plenty of opinions on how it could but in a legal sense a company would not have a leg to stand on. If having sex is a sackable offence then we'd have 1 helluva dole queue

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

Plenty of opinions on how it could but in a legal sense a company would not have a leg to stand on. If having sex is a sackable offence then we'd have 1 helluva dole queue"

No one's being sacked for having sex.

They could be sacked under morality, misconduct, bringing the company into disrepute etc breaches of contract.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Yes you can.

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

Plenty of opinions on how it could but in a legal sense a company would not have a leg to stand on. If having sex is a sackable offence then we'd have 1 helluva dole queue

No one's being sacked for having sex.

They could be sacked under morality, misconduct, bringing the company into disrepute etc breaches of contract."

That's ultimately what swinging is, having sex with folk. I highly doubt anyone would be sacked for shagging someone they'd met on a night out but could be if they'd shagged someone they'd met on a swingers site? Lawyers would have an absolute field day with that.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

Plenty of opinions on how it could but in a legal sense a company would not have a leg to stand on. If having sex is a sackable offence then we'd have 1 helluva dole queue

No one's being sacked for having sex.

They could be sacked under morality, misconduct, bringing the company into disrepute etc breaches of contract.

OK, you're right.

As you were......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes to all of the above if it brings your company into disrepute

How would it being the company into disrepute? Unless it's happening on company time or premises what the hell does it have to do with the company?

Read up further. Plenty of explanations how it could.

Plenty of opinions on how it could but in a legal sense a company would not have a leg to stand on. If having sex is a sackable offence then we'd have 1 helluva dole queue

No one's being sacked for having sex.

They could be sacked under morality, misconduct, bringing the company into disrepute etc breaches of contract.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students."

I think, in most jobs, as long as you don't broadcast your activities or do anything to connect your employer with your activities, then it would be hard for an employer to argue that being a swinger per se brings them into disrepute.

However where adhering to "conventional" standards of morality is expected then the situation is different. Certainly, a swinger working for a religious organisation could probably be sacked.

Teachers are interesting. I think it would depend on what sort of swinging you do. If you define yourself as non monagamous and merely swap partners, I think you'd probably be OK. Gangbangs and dogging might be different...

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

If you're caught using this site during company time ... then yes probably, but that's not because you're a swinger

Otherwise people's personal life is exactly that.

The bringing the company into disrepute is a minefield .. how are you doing that of no one here knows who you work for etc?

If you have profile pictures that identifies the company you work for ... that's a different matter

Finally, for those with security clearance, you have too all yourself the question, would you be embarrassed of people knew you were part of the scene, and would you be open to coercion or manipulation at the threat of being "outed"?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"This only effects people with a security clearance "

Funnily enough the OH had to have a high level security clearance for his job at the time and had to declare everything he does in private, including swinging, it didn't stop him getting the job.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students.

However where adhering to "conventional" standards of morality is expected then the situation is different. Certainly, a swinger working for a religious organisation could probably be sacked.

I've known of instances where a teacher has posted provocative pictures on line eg on facebook. Parents, students and governors have discovered them and the teacher's credibility has been left in tatters. Resignation has been the suggestion put forward to them. I'm guessing the same thing could happen if they were discovered on a swinging site.

Parents can be terribly hypocritical when it comes to the private lives of teachers compared to their own.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students.

However where adhering to "conventional" standards of morality is expected then the situation is different. Certainly, a swinger working for a religious organisation could probably be sacked.

Parents can be terribly hypocritical when it comes to the private lives of teachers compared to their own.

But that's what I mean about being discreet. If you don't post pics where you could be identified, I think merely saying "my partner and I are non monogamous", would be no different to a teacher being gay or bi.

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

I remember a number of years ago a teacher at a local school had her phone stolen by a pupil. On the phone was a video of her having sex apparently with her boyfriend. The video was made public by this pupil. There was outrage among parents. Not at the little thief but at the teacher. Calls were made to the school for her to be sacked. The school told the complainants to fuck off.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students.

However where adhering to "conventional" standards of morality is expected then the situation is different. Certainly, a swinger working for a religious organisation could probably be sacked.

Parents can be terribly hypocritical when it comes to the private lives of teachers compared to their own.

You and I would think so. However it isn't so long since teachers needed to keep their sexuality quiet if they weren't straight. If you're outed as anything other than monogomous, regardless of how discreet you've been your life can be made very uncomfortable if you're a teacher.

I know its hard for people to believe or understand but it does happen.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Yes you can.

Even if it would prove difficult to sack you, your position could be made untenable.

I'm always staggered when people say they're teachers for instance. Parents can be extremely judgemental so can students.

However where adhering to "conventional" standards of morality is expected then the situation is different. Certainly, a swinger working for a religious organisation could probably be sacked.

Parents can be terribly hypocritical when it comes to the private lives of teachers compared to their own.

I know its hard for people to believe or understand but it does happen."

Indeed. But I think people's expectations re sex lives of people like teachers have changed. Kids would no doubt make jokes as I am sure they do about gay teachers, but as long as the behaviour was not too out there I think it unlikely there was a problem.

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By *imjohnCouple
over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

If you work with the public e.g. carer, teacher, police officer, social worker etc you could be sacked if they got information regarding your unusual sexual activities e.g. pics films ads etc.

Like anything else in the adult industry we are all tarred with the same brush if our sexual conduct can be used to discredit you or your employer's, bribes etc can have serious effect depending on your job.

For this reason we ourselves don't work with / film / photograph private sector workers because of the high moral scrutiny of uk citizen's compared to that of other European people.

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By *ndecidedMan
over a year ago

London

No sex please - we're British!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

There are some highly ignorant people on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldnt lose my job, no but I could lose work and my professionalism totally ... that would hurt

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By *ilver_StarMan
over a year ago

Oxford

There is no reason why you would lose your job - your private life is private and having sex is not illegal. You can be as private (or not) as you feel appropriate on this site.

Like with anything else that is seen as ‘alternative’ it’s often better to keep this side of your life within the right circles.

If you are a primary school teacher working in a CofE school then sure - your lifestyle is under some scrutiny, so be sensitive to that.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

"This only effects people with a security clearance

Funnily enough the OH had to have a high level security clearance for his job at the time and had to declare everything he does in private, including swinging, it didn't stop him getting the job."

I (Mr) used to have a very high level of clearance for my job and was told that so long as I declared everything then it would be fine as the danger was of being blackma**ed or coerced into disclosing information.

Remembered this from a couple of years ago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3865566/The-swinging-detective-Policeman-investigation-posted-pictures-uniform-swingers-website.html

The guy was eventually dismissed from the Police force. As has been said many time before if you compromise your employer then you can be dismissed.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

3 of my jobs I'm self employed

The other, my boss has been my best friend for 21yrs.

Might raise a few eyebrows if people knew, but it wouldn't affect my employment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One big issue is even if it unlawful for a company to dismiss you, they may still do so. The win ratio at employment tribunal remains low and the compensation even if you win (almost no one actually gets reinstated) are not normally great either. Then there's your legal fees.

My advice? Join a trade union, there not perfect but good to have when you need them

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"This only effects people with a security clearance

Funnily enough the OH had to have a high level security clearance for his job at the time and had to declare everything he does in private, including swinging, it didn't stop him getting the job.

Same here

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I once lost a job for being a minger!

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