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"This is Fabswingers, full of the most judgemental people around! " This quote us so very true. A a lot are 6 day sinners and sunday saints  | |||
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"This is Fabswingers, full of the most judgemental people around! This quote us so very true. A a lot are 6 day sinners and sunday saints "That is a very good analogy!
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"What is your idea then of “fucking a young fertile girl bareback”? Is it just a fantasy? Or do you actually want to get someone pregnant? Personally I find the words “Daddy wants a fuck toy” , as currently on your status, taken with the “young, fertile and bareback” pretty creepy/repugnant and nothing to do with swinging. If you post things like that then you’re going to get a reaction frankly, and that is nothing to do with puritanism or anything like it. If it’s all just a fantasy then you’re probably on the wrong site anyway. " I find the idea of gangbangs pretty yucky. But each to their own. | |||
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"Bareback play puts those who play with barebackers at increased risk. Trying to (cause someone to) fall pregnant isn't fair on the potential child. I could go on. I'm not into kink shaming, and I generally stay off threads like these, but sometimes yes, it can be our business. " I would suspect you’ve greater chance of condom failure at a gangbang. Then aside from disease, you’ve even less chance of the imaginary child never knowing their father. | |||
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"Bareback play puts those who play with barebackers at increased risk. Trying to (cause someone to) fall pregnant isn't fair on the potential child. I could go on. I'm not into kink shaming, and I generally stay off threads like these, but sometimes yes, it can be our business. I would suspect you’ve greater chance of condom failure at a gangbang. Then aside from disease, you’ve even less chance of the imaginary child never knowing their father. " I'm not sure how you figure the first. Condoms don't fail that often. It's a tiny risk, tinier when all the people engage in safe sex. As for the second, I'm not the one talking about fucking in a way that would more likely lead to pregnancy. If a condom failed at a gangbang, it'd likely only be one because see above. If the lady wasn't on any other form of birth control, there are ways to deal with that (but I'd wager many women who swing don't just rely on condoms). | |||
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"I’ve had many condoms fail over the years. Again your assumption is that everyone is the same. That anything outside of your accepted parameters is wrong. " I can only go on my own experience, known statistics, and calculate risks from there. It would be foolish for me to say, oh you go have your fun, with the data and experience I have, when those who bareback increase my risk. Puritanical is hating on a fetish that doesn't potentially harm me. | |||
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"Bareback play puts those who play with barebackers at increased risk. Trying to (cause someone to) fall pregnant isn't fair on the potential child. I could go on. I'm not into kink shaming, and I generally stay off threads like these, but sometimes yes, it can be our business. " How does bareback play put people that only have 'safe sex' at risk? | |||
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"Bareback play puts those who play with barebackers at increased risk. Trying to (cause someone to) fall pregnant isn't fair on the potential child. I could go on. I'm not into kink shaming, and I generally stay off threads like these, but sometimes yes, it can be our business. I would suspect you’ve greater chance of condom failure at a gangbang. Then aside from disease, you’ve even less chance of the imaginary child never knowing their father. I'm not sure how you figure the first. Condoms don't fail that often. It's a tiny risk, tinier when all the people engage in safe sex. As for the second, I'm not the one talking about fucking in a way that would more likely lead to pregnancy. If a condom failed at a gangbang, it'd likely only be one because see above. If the lady wasn't on any other form of birth control, there are ways to deal with that (but I'd wager many women who swing don't just rely on condoms)." Wouldn’t waste your breath dim Dom’s go no where, it’s fantasy island some guy called tattoo helps put the cock in | |||
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"Bareback play puts those who play with barebackers at increased risk. Trying to (cause someone to) fall pregnant isn't fair on the potential child. I could go on. I'm not into kink shaming, and I generally stay off threads like these, but sometimes yes, it can be our business. How does bareback play put people that only have 'safe sex' at risk?" Safe sex isn't foolproof, but those who bareback (particularly selectively or secretly) are higher risk because there's more contact for catching things in that way. So then for the areas not covered, or in the event of contraception failure, barebackers are more likely to have something to pass on. | |||
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"What is your idea then of “fucking a young fertile girl bareback”? Is it just a fantasy? Or do you actually want to get someone pregnant? Personally I find the words “Daddy wants a fuck toy” , as currently on your status, taken with the “young, fertile and bareback” pretty creepy/repugnant and nothing to do with swinging. If you post things like that then you’re going to get a reaction frankly, and that is nothing to do with puritanism or anything like it. If it’s all just a fantasy then you’re probably on the wrong site anyway. I find the idea of gangbangs pretty yucky. But each to their own. " Ah. Respond with an attempt to dissemble. I wonder why. I’ll try again. You started this thread presumably to discuss why some people don’t agree/like your particular fetish. I therefore asked a question of you to try to find out more about it. I asked whether it was a fantasy or if you did actually want to get a young woman pregnant. | |||
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"I’m sorry but I posted on here about cuckolding & had people trying to shame me for my sexual tastes? I said I liked the idea of fucking a young fertile looking girl bareback. Suddenly I get all these statements saying that’s a weird thing to say??? I mean WTF? This is my problem with this site, it’s populated by people trying to enforce an idea of what swinging should be. Like some sort of fucking golf club. Then trying to shame others is just shitty and insecure. If you can’t handle something then fair enough. But being so quick to condemn others is just nasty. The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? " So you’re an older guy who wants to fuck a young girl , and get her pregnant . Her fella is to watch as you do this , and your username is Daddy . What could anyone possibly find wrong with any of this ?  | |||
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"The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it?" I think the phrase you're looking for here is actually: "I like what I like, and am completely unjudgemental as long as what you like is the same." | |||
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"The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? I think the phrase you're looking for here is actually: "I like what I like, and am completely unjudgemental as long as what you like is the same."" This is NOT aimed at the OP, just to clarify. Only to the "open minded" among us. | |||
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"The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? I think the phrase you're looking for here is actually: "I like what I like, and am completely unjudgemental as long as what you like is the same." This is NOT aimed at the OP, just to clarify. Only to the "open minded" among us. " Spot on. | |||
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"You will find that peoples tastes are all very individual. The idea of using candles, violet wands, watersports, pain, bareback, breeding, crossdressing, m on m, gloryholes, anal and everything else will appeal to some, not for others. However the subject that causes the most outrage is bareback. If you prefer the feel of sex without a condom with your partner - Good Swinger. If you prefer to bareback - Bad Swinger. If you fantasise about getting someone pregnant - Satanist. A lot of people will react because they do not see the point of / agree with your particular desire to fantasise (or indeed actually) breed a complete stranger. Others will react to ensure teir "Good swinger" log book is up to date. I will now get abuse for suggesting people are virtue posting. But the forum norms state that if you feel so strongly that you are about to post something that berates an individual, you should walk away. If you don't like the subject, scroll past it. If you know you are going to post something that will ruffle feathers, stick your thick skin on." You make some very good points and we agree with all but one. Satanists do not want to get women pregnant. We leave that to our Lord Satan. | |||
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"This is Fabswingers, full of the most judgemental people around! This quote us so very true. A a lot are 6 day sinners and sunday saints " | |||
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"Well, that's another fab member run out of town by the pitchfork brigade. Come on all you rednecks give it your best shot, you find us such easy targets." Thing is, if you post on a public forum about subjects which you know a lot of people will have strong moral objections to, don't be surprised when people react strongly. If you don't want that reaction, don't post. | |||
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"Well, that's another fab member run out of town by the pitchfork brigade. Come on all you rednecks give it your best shot, you find us such easy targets. Thing is, if you post on a public forum about subjects which you know a lot of people will have strong moral objections to, don't be surprised when people react strongly. If you don't want that reaction, don't post. " Do people really jump ship just because someone disagrees with them and types a few words on a page? If so then maybe the internet isn't the place for them. People will always disagree and have differing, often strong opinions. Everyone has their own viewpoint. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong and if you can't handle others thinking differently and leaving the site is your only response then that's 100% on you - nobody else. Nobody 'runs people out of town'. A | |||
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"Well, that's another fab member run out of town by the pitchfork brigade. Come on all you rednecks give it your best shot, you find us such easy targets. Thing is, if you post on a public forum about subjects which you know a lot of people will have strong moral objections to, don't be surprised when people react strongly. If you don't want that reaction, don't post. Do people really jump ship just because someone disagrees with them and types a few words on a page? If so then maybe the internet isn't the place for them. People will always disagree and have differing, often strong opinions. Everyone has their own viewpoint. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong and if you can't handle others thinking differently and leaving the site is your only response then that's 100% on you - nobody else. Nobody 'runs people out of town'. A" Not getting his own way was the trigger I suspect. | |||
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"Well, that's another fab member run out of town by the pitchfork brigade. Come on all you rednecks give it your best shot, you find us such easy targets. Thing is, if you post on a public forum about subjects which you know a lot of people will have strong moral objections to, don't be surprised when people react strongly. If you don't want that reaction, don't post. Do people really jump ship just because someone disagrees with them and types a few words on a page? If so then maybe the internet isn't the place for them. People will always disagree and have differing, often strong opinions. Everyone has their own viewpoint. Doesn't make anyone right or wrong and if you can't handle others thinking differently and leaving the site is your only response then that's 100% on you - nobody else. Nobody 'runs people out of town'. A" Well yes. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that the vast majority of people will feel distaste at a middle aged bloke wanting to "breed" young women. If thats where you are are at and everything is done consensually, you can Crack on. No one is going to stop you. But if you start publicly talking about it, it's bleeding obvious you'll get lots of negative reaction. | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile!" THIS | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile!" But isn't there a sense of being cruel to be kind? If a blokes approach is such as to put off most of the people he wants to have sex with, it's not really helpful to tell him everything is great... | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! But isn't there a sense of being cruel to be kind? If a blokes approach is such as to put off most of the people he wants to have sex with, it's not really helpful to tell him everything is great... " Is not about saying "that's great", it's about not hounding people who don't conform to what the majority fine acceptable. For example, I'm bi, some people won't meet me explicitly because of that. That's their view, and I accept that. But I'm not going to change to conform, and nor should i | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! But isn't there a sense of being cruel to be kind? If a blokes approach is such as to put off most of the people he wants to have sex with, it's not really helpful to tell him everything is great... Is not about saying "that's great", it's about not hounding people who don't conform to what the majority fine acceptable. For example, I'm bi, some people won't meet me explicitly because of that. That's their view, and I accept that. But I'm not going to change to conform, and nor should i" Or feel forced to hide it. How can anyone find what they are looking for here, if people aren't up front about their interests. | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! But isn't there a sense of being cruel to be kind? If a blokes approach is such as to put off most of the people he wants to have sex with, it's not really helpful to tell him everything is great... Is not about saying "that's great", it's about not hounding people who don't conform to what the majority fine acceptable. For example, I'm bi, some people won't meet me explicitly because of that. That's their view, and I accept that. But I'm not going to change to conform, and nor should i Or feel forced to hide it. How can anyone find what they are looking for here, if people aren't up front about their interests." Exactly! If you look on a well known f e t site, there are people there into the weirdest things, but there is an ethos of respecting others kinks, quirks, preferences, whatever | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile!" I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . | |||
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"I'm not saying I condone it, but that's their fantasy. Personally I find age play unpleasant, but some of my friends are into that and like acting like a toddler. It's not for me, but it doesn't stop them from being my friends" As a fantasy that’s different . This particular one and plenty more aren’t fantasy , they are real ! People actually do this ! | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour ." Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others?" Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . " You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. I've found that at some point in life, it's really helpful to put the past behind and move on. Good luck with that. | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. I've found that at some point in life, it's really helpful to put the past behind and move on. Good luck with that." I don’t think that having issues with “ who’s the Dad “ is an indicator to suggest that I had a traumatic childhood at all . And if I did ( I didn’t but that’s irrelevant ) , I certainly wouldn’t seek yours or anyone else’s pity . If in order to become free of any morals I have to put the past behind me and move on , I’d sooner not thanks . Our past defines us , and I’m happy with who I am . | |||
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"The OP's post and the first two replies pretty well summed up the rules of play on here. There are far too many cod psychologists who like to interrogate other posters as to the "hidden meaning" in their posts. Sometimes it almost becomes sympathy trolling where they initially sympathise and/or partly agree with the poster then the digging begins to find a point of confrontation so they can hurl bolts of righteousness. If the recipient doesn't take the bait first time they will wait to see what other posters the recipient replies to then pile back in with "See you said XXX to him and that means you really meant ZZZ as I said previously you perve!" If the recipient still doesn't rise to it we get "Your failure to reply makes my point!" I claim my righteous badge now! Forums notwithstanding, is this a swingers site or is that just an adjunct to a badly organised often dysfunctional debating society? Case in point: Last year Fab finally took action and created a separate forum for politics to get the political nuisances out of everybody's hair everywhere else because they were hijacking forums by getting them flooded with contending political arguments." Where are the political arguments? As I said - the OP started the conversation and obviously wanted a response. There really is little pint in having a forum if a post is started and everyone just says "yes agree" is there? If someone doesn't want a reaction to what is potentially a contentious subject, then don't start the post. I'm not "sympathy trolling" or whatever you want to call it. | |||
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"All I was saying is live and let live. I think we can agree that most people here wouldn't want people deliberately getting other people pregnant. But vilifying people won't help, and just makes us look narrow minded. And it is Christmas after all, spirit of good will. Santa can be the one to judge whose on the naughty list " Not vilifying people will make us look as bad as the perpetrators of such behaviour . I would sooner look narrow minded than look as I would if I condoned it . | |||
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"All I was saying is live and let live. I think we can agree that most people here wouldn't want people deliberately getting other people pregnant. But vilifying people won't help, and just makes us look narrow minded. And it is Christmas after all, spirit of good will. Santa can be the one to judge whose on the naughty list Not vilifying people will make us look as bad as the perpetrators of such behaviour . I would sooner look narrow minded than look as I would if I condoned it . " Seems your wish has been granted. So much for swingers being open minded. | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. I've found that at some point in life, it's really helpful to put the past behind and move on. Good luck with that." And that takes what was a discussion to a totally new - lower - level of personal vindictiveness, which is completely uncalled for. if you can't debate politely and with civility without having to make completely unfounded personal attacks on someone you don't even know, then best stay away? | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. I've found that at some point in life, it's really helpful to put the past behind and move on. Good luck with that. And that takes what was a discussion to a totally new - lower - level of personal vindictiveness, which is completely uncalled for. if you can't debate politely and with civility without having to make completely unfounded personal attacks on someone you don't even know, then best stay away?" I don't quite see where this is vindictive or a personal attack? Unless my comment wasn't the one this was meant for, in which case, I understand. I do agree there's no need for judgement here. | |||
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"Personally I think we need to respect others kinks, preferences, and approaches, and try and be a bit more friendly and welcoming. There's lots of things that personally I don't like, but if others like it then live and let live. I hate to think what some of the new joiners would think reading some of the forum posts (not just this one). And heaven help any single male, who is "Fab straight", only wants bare back, is married, and only had cock pics on his profile! I hate to think what some of the new joiners ( and anyone on the internet come to that as these forums are free to read for anyone ) would think if we all agree that any kink is ok with all of us . Just because we are swingers doesn’t mean we will agree with everything that anyone else may consider to be fun . It may be legal for a guy of nearly 50 to bareback fuck a young girl and get her pregnant , but if you want me to say that’s cool , and I am all up for people doing this , it isn’t gonna happen . I find it abhorrent that anyone would entertain this , and to use getting pregnant as a kink ? What a sick world we live in , and I’m never going to condone this disgusting behaviour . Yet many would consider 151 published meets disgusting behaviour, and would never meet such slags. You're saying it's OK to judge on some things but not others? Yes I am . 100% I am saying that it’s ok to judge on some things but not others . 151 published meets and not one was me watching on as some stranger made her pregnant . So happily I won’t have to explain at some point to a child that a random stranger is their father , but it’s ok because it was our kink . Of course I’m saying that I will judge what I think is morally wrong , and having a kink that involves bringing a child into the world in this way goes against my sets of morals . And yes , we’ve been judged many times for having so many veris . This account is the least active we’ve ever been . Our previous two had over 500 published veris . Did we care that we were judged ? Yes , did it stop us ? No . Did we hurt anyone in doing what we did ? No . You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. I've found that at some point in life, it's really helpful to put the past behind and move on. Good luck with that. And that takes what was a discussion to a totally new - lower - level of personal vindictiveness, which is completely uncalled for. if you can't debate politely and with civility without having to make completely unfounded personal attacks on someone you don't even know, then best stay away?" Thank you , I appreciate that | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes." But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in agreement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? | |||
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"I feel we all need a group hug" I feel we all need to mind our own f**king business and let people do what they want. | |||
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"I feel we all need a group hug I feel we all need to mind our own f**king business and let people do what they want." But the point is if you post something in the forum you're not asking people to mind your own business, you're asking for people's opinions. | |||
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" You really do seem to have issues with the "who's the dad" thing. I'm guessing traumatic childhood, and I'm sorry for that. . You are losing your argument by being personal to try and score points...it isn't pleasant and spoils the debate" Judging someone (even with condescending "sympathy") by attributing horrendous experiences to them is pretty damn low. | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? " All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. " Is your position that we shouldn't make moral judgments about anything as long as it's legal? | |||
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I am guessing there will be people about who think our fetishes are weird, it is just life, we all want different things and you don't have to agree with them but if a thread is opened to discuss them then that's what happens. If a thread is opened as a meet request then people should leave that as a meet request and start a different thread on it.
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. " One of the things that really gets my goat is that because we are swingers we have no morals . I believe it’s perfectly possible to be a swinger and still maintain a moral code that doesn’t condone random people meeting up for bareback fun in order to get pregnant . As I said earlier , some may say that makes me narrow minded , and I’ll take that every day over having to say I do condone it . Just because it’s legal it doesn’t necessarily make it ok , I can’t imagine anyone sat down and thought that anyone would consider this kind of thing when the laws of the country were established . | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. One of the things that really gets my goat is that because we are swingers we have no morals . I believe it’s perfectly possible to be a swinger and still maintain a moral code that doesn’t condone random people meeting up for bareback fun in order to get pregnant . As I said earlier , some may say that makes me narrow minded , and I’ll take that every day over having to say I do condone it . Just because it’s legal it doesn’t necessarily make it ok , I can’t imagine anyone sat down and thought that anyone would consider this kind of thing when the laws of the country were established ." Me, I worry about people who “project” from their own minds what’s right and wrong. If they are having those thoughts, what does it say about them. | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. One of the things that really gets my goat is that because we are swingers we have no morals . I believe it’s perfectly possible to be a swinger and still maintain a moral code that doesn’t condone random people meeting up for bareback fun in order to get pregnant . As I said earlier , some may say that makes me narrow minded , and I’ll take that every day over having to say I do condone it . Just because it’s legal it doesn’t necessarily make it ok , I can’t imagine anyone sat down and thought that anyone would consider this kind of thing when the laws of the country were established . Me, I worry about people who “project” from their own minds what’s right and wrong. If they are having those thoughts, what does it say about them." Surely there are things we all agree are right and things we all agree are wrong ? I know there are subjects that are illegal and we can’t mention on here , and this particular one , while not illegal , is certainly (as another poster said) fodder for the Jeremy Kyle show . I would happily admit to being a swinger , but I wouldn’t happily admit that I thought this was acceptable . The outside world probably figures we are all a bunch of bedhopping perverts anyway . I can live with that , but if they thought we condoned random fucks to make random strangers pregnant to fulfill a kink , I would want to distance myself from that . | |||
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"Just a thought.... If someone posts "I want to make your wife pregnant" and a woman decides, "well I want to be pregnant" then they both get what they want? If a woman decides "I want a baby" because she is single, affluent and with a support network, she could: a. Have a one night stand and lie about contraception. b. Decide to find someone who wants to breed. c. Have a bareback gangbang and roll the dice. The outrage is that he sounds like he wants to fuck and forget, knowing his kids are somewhere in the world. I suspect a lot of this is "Rights of the Father" as much as it is "Be a responsible father". If he declared it as a fantasy, it is barebacking with a twist. Any woman can lie about being on the pill as much as someone could be lying about having the snip (or not). I had a message from a "couple" about breeding his wife. I explained I didn't bareback without clear sti tests. He was still keen and started talking about makin arrangements, hotels, booking tests etc. When I explained I had the snip, they lost interest. Were they genuinely looking for a donor? Who knows. It takes all kinds. As with bareback. The more we condemn,.the further underground it goes. But surely saying that’s ok , we support you in your quest to get pregnant from a random stranger on a swingers site , we are equally as flippant about a human life as the ones doing it ? Would you really be happy to be associated with saying that’s ok ? I can see what you are saying about if the couple and the guy are in greement that it’s an equally useful tool to have a child if there’s no other way , but the randomness of the suggested scenario is simply getting off on a kink that does involve another person . The child born of the meet . Who gets no say in it at all . Is that morally acceptable ? All depends on whose benchmark we are applying. To some, homosexuality, anal sex or even recreational sex is wrong. To others, consentual sex with others outside of marriage is wrong. I know it is a direct ticket to Jeremy Kyle for anyone who actually wants to live out that particular fantasy, but no law is being broken. Like most subjects on here, if it is ridiculed and reviled, you are not going to educate, just drive the fantasy underground. Is your position that we shouldn't make moral judgments about anything as long as it's legal? " My personal opinion is I don't approve of what the op is seeking, however I acknowledge that he is free to seek that out. If he finds someone who wishes to consent to play that way, then it is none of my business. Far better he is open about his desires than hide what he wants and then stealths to get his kicks. We all have our own moral compass that will align with some and misalign with others. Providing the law isn't broken, let him crack on. We may not agree with him but at least we knew what he wants. Now he may rejoin fab with a revised profile, a different modus operandi but with the same desires. The same kink he feels compelled to keep a deep dark secret. | |||
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"I’m sorry but I posted on here about cuckolding & had people trying to shame me for my sexual tastes? I said I liked the idea of fucking a young fertile looking girl bareback. Suddenly I get all these statements saying that’s a weird thing to say??? I mean WTF? This is my problem with this site, it’s populated by people trying to enforce an idea of what swinging should be. Like some sort of fucking golf club. Then trying to shame others is just shitty and insecure. If you can’t handle something then fair enough. But being so quick to condemn others is just nasty. The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? So you’re an older guy who wants to fuck a young girl , and get her pregnant . Her fella is to watch as you do this , and your username is Daddy . What could anyone possibly find wrong with any of this ? "at least he's been honest unlike most on hear just agreeing to be in the gang I say go for it mate fill you boots each to there own | |||
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"I’m sorry but I posted on here about cuckolding & had people trying to shame me for my sexual tastes? I said I liked the idea of fucking a young fertile looking girl bareback. Suddenly I get all these statements saying that’s a weird thing to say??? I mean WTF? This is my problem with this site, it’s populated by people trying to enforce an idea of what swinging should be. Like some sort of fucking golf club. Then trying to shame others is just shitty and insecure. If you can’t handle something then fair enough. But being so quick to condemn others is just nasty. The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? So you’re an older guy who wants to fuck a young girl , and get her pregnant . Her fella is to watch as you do this , and your username is Daddy . What could anyone possibly find wrong with any of this ? "
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"I’m sorry but I posted on here about cuckolding & had people trying to shame me for my sexual tastes? I said I liked the idea of fucking a young fertile looking girl bareback. Suddenly I get all these statements saying that’s a weird thing to say??? I mean WTF? This is my problem with this site, it’s populated by people trying to enforce an idea of what swinging should be. Like some sort of fucking golf club. Then trying to shame others is just shitty and insecure. If you can’t handle something then fair enough. But being so quick to condemn others is just nasty. The phrase is “Consenting Adults”, got it? So you’re an older guy who wants to fuck a young girl , and get her pregnant . Her fella is to watch as you do this , and your username is Daddy . What could anyone possibly find wrong with any of this ? at least he's been honest unlike most on hear just agreeing to be in the gang I say go for it mate fill you boots each to there own "Therein lies the rub. This is supposedly a site to enable people to met for sex. The OP is entitled to his fantasy, but to make it a reality is pretty reprihennsible and shows he has no understanding in what is involved in creating a new life/raising a child. If he was to carry out his fantasy and got a young girl pregnant then what? Would he expect her to get an abortion? If not, would he move in and help to raise the child in a stable faamily home? If not, would he pay for it's upkeep, all the time knowing that he had deliberately created a fatherless child? | |||
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"The fact that I just had to explain that makes me weep for humanity. " It does beggar belief, but the good thing about threads like this is that people show their true colours and makes it easier for people to prevent contact from them by blocking them. | |||
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"The fact that I just had to explain that makes me weep for humanity. It does beggar belief, but the good thing about threads like this is that people show their true colours and makes it easier for people to prevent contact from them by blocking them." At last , I was feeling all alone on this one till the last two posters came in | |||
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"The fact that I just had to explain that makes me weep for humanity. It does beggar belief, but the good thing about threads like this is that people show their true colours and makes it easier for people to prevent contact from them by blocking them. At last , I was feeling all alone on this one till the last two posters came in "Cooeeee I was in there already  | |||
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"The fact that I just had to explain that makes me weep for humanity. It does beggar belief, but the good thing about threads like this is that people show their true colours and makes it easier for people to prevent contact from them by blocking them." Wondering around a brothel with a fifty pound note hanging out your arse going nowhere springs to mind | |||
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"The fact that I just had to explain that makes me weep for humanity. It does beggar belief, but the good thing about threads like this is that people show their true colours and makes it easier for people to prevent contact from them by blocking them. At last , I was feeling all alone on this one till the last two posters came in
Cooeeee I was in there already "That’s true , how could I have missed that ! | |||
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" Me, I worry about people who “project” from their own minds what’s right and wrong. If they are having those thoughts, what does it say about them. Trying to make any sense of that comment, and it still doesn't scan after the tenth read. "Projecting" what is right and wrong from their minds? Do you mean having an opinion on an issue and speaking it? That's how stuff gets done. That's how democracy works. That's how the human race develops. Not sure what your problem is with that." Projection is a term used were a person transfers either actions or mental constructs from the past on to other people. Non of it is real to the person they are projecting thier past on to, however it is to those who are projecting. Touch of Twitmire here. Not over Democratic to me. | |||
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" Me, I worry about people who “project” from their own minds what’s right and wrong. If they are having those thoughts, what does it say about them. Trying to make any sense of that comment, and it still doesn't scan after the tenth read. "Projecting" what is right and wrong from their minds? Do you mean having an opinion on an issue and speaking it? That's how stuff gets done. That's how democracy works. That's how the human race develops. Not sure what your problem is with that. Projection is a term used were a person transfers either actions or mental constructs from the past on to other people. Non of it is real to the person they are projecting thier past on to, however it is to those who are projecting. Touch of Twitmire here. Not over Democratic to me. "Who did you figure was doing this projection ? | |||
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" Me, I worry about people who “project” from their own minds what’s right and wrong. If they are having those thoughts, what does it say about them. Trying to make any sense of that comment, and it still doesn't scan after the tenth read. "Projecting" what is right and wrong from their minds? Do you mean having an opinion on an issue and speaking it? That's how stuff gets done. That's how democracy works. That's how the human race develops. Not sure what your problem is with that. Projection is a term used were a person transfers either actions or mental constructs from the past on to other people. Non of it is real to the person they are projecting thier past on to, however it is to those who are projecting. Touch of Twitmire here. Not over Democratic to me.
Who did you figure was doing this projection ? "Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. | |||
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" Who did you figure was doing this projection ? Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. " So anyone who doesn't agree with a fetish like this has had it in their life previously? I am a bit confused  | |||
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" Who did you figure was doing this projection ? Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. So anyone who doesn't agree with a fetish like this has had it in their life previously? I am a bit confused "I was majorly confused by it too and felt it was better to walk away . The insinuation that I had any father issues is nonsense , and that certainly isn’t why I have an issue with this fetish . Any legal fetish that just involves the parties carrying out is fine with me . Totally live and let live , go for it and enjoy ! As long as everyone consents of course , and this is where I have an issue with this fetish . The baby has no way of consenting to having a random stranger being his or her father , and to have a pregnancy from carrying out a fetish is just wrong in my mind . I would go as far as to suggest that if everyone who thinks the same way as I do about it , there are a huge amount of people out there who have a projection issue | |||
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" Who did you figure was doing this projection ? Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. So anyone who doesn't agree with a fetish like this has had it in their life previously? I am a bit confused
I was majorly confused by it too and felt it was better to walk away .
The insinuation that I had any father issues is nonsense , and that certainly isn’t why I have an issue with this fetish .
Any legal fetish that just involves the parties carrying out is fine with me . Totally live and let live , go for it and enjoy ! As long as everyone consents of course , and this is where I have an issue with this fetish . The baby has no way of consenting to having a random stranger being his or her father , and to have a pregnancy from carrying out a fetish is just wrong in my mind .
I would go as far as to suggest that if everyone who thinks the same way as I do about it , there are a huge amount of people out there who have a projection issue "The one thing we will never know is if the op wanted to roleplay that he could get a woman pregnant or actually wanted to get a woman pregnant. We all agree it is irresponsible to actively get a woman pregnant intending to walk away. To fantasise that he may get her pregnant because he fucks her is different. We will never know. Everything points to him wanting to, but if he says he wants to pretend to get someone pregnant, that lessens the thrill. I'm not saying it is right. I'm saying that is what might be in his head | |||
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" Who did you figure was doing this projection ? Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. So anyone who doesn't agree with a fetish like this has had it in their life previously? I am a bit confused
I was majorly confused by it too and felt it was better to walk away .
The insinuation that I had any father issues is nonsense , and that certainly isn’t why I have an issue with this fetish .
Any legal fetish that just involves the parties carrying out is fine with me . Totally live and let live , go for it and enjoy ! As long as everyone consents of course , and this is where I have an issue with this fetish . The baby has no way of consenting to having a random stranger being his or her father , and to have a pregnancy from carrying out a fetish is just wrong in my mind .
I would go as far as to suggest that if everyone who thinks the same way as I do about it , there are a huge amount of people out there who have a projection issue
The one thing we will never know is if the op wanted to roleplay that he could get a woman pregnant or actually wanted to get a woman pregnant.
We all agree it is irresponsible to actively get a woman pregnant intending to walk away. To fantasise that he may get her pregnant because he fucks her is different. We will never know. Everything points to him wanting to, but if he says he wants to pretend to get someone pregnant, that lessens the thrill.
I'm not saying it is right. I'm saying that is what might be in his head "So you think the projection comment was directed at the op and not me ? I’m confused  | |||
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" Who did you figure was doing this projection ? Those that cognitively recognise it. Otherwise it just a reality of thier world. I worked with a girl who had been attackedfrom behind. She ended up in police stations so many times because people walked behind her and she attacked them through projection. Your past, in actual or mental construction will influence what your (options) projection on others. To me, the more cognitive around projection you are the better you might be open minded and congruent about yourself. Hey that’s me. So anyone who doesn't agree with a fetish like this has had it in their life previously? I am a bit confused
I was majorly confused by it too and felt it was better to walk away .
The insinuation that I had any father issues is nonsense , and that certainly isn’t why I have an issue with this fetish .
Any legal fetish that just involves the parties carrying out is fine with me . Totally live and let live , go for it and enjoy ! As long as everyone consents of course , and this is where I have an issue with this fetish . The baby has no way of consenting to having a random stranger being his or her father , and to have a pregnancy from carrying out a fetish is just wrong in my mind .
I would go as far as to suggest that if everyone who thinks the same way as I do about it , there are a huge amount of people out there who have a projection issue
The one thing we will never know is if the op wanted to roleplay that he could get a woman pregnant or actually wanted to get a woman pregnant.
We all agree it is irresponsible to actively get a woman pregnant intending to walk away. To fantasise that he may get her pregnant because he fucks her is different. We will never know. Everything points to him wanting to, but if he says he wants to pretend to get someone pregnant, that lessens the thrill.
I'm not saying it is right. I'm saying that is what might be in his head
So you think the projection comment was directed at the op and not me ?
I’m confused "I haven't referenced the projection comment. Quoted the whole paragraph but do not have any opinion on the projection aspect. | |||
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