FabSwingers.com forum: Raising Prep awareness

By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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Here are the facts:

* Prep is not a treatment for HIV, despite containing similar ingredients.

*It is ONLY given to HIV negative people.

*If someone who takes prep is exposed to the HIV virus, they are extremely unlikely to contract it.

*To date there are only 4 cases globally where prep hasn't worked, but it was up against a rare and particularly aggressive strain of the virus.

*Prep does not protect against any other STD.

Think of it as being along the same lines as a vaccine.

Those who take prep AND use condoms are the safest people to play with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great info

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And who takes prep?

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By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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"And who takes prep? "

That's like asking who has Hep B vaccinations. It's another defence against the nasties out there for sexually active people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here are the facts:

* Prep is not a treatment for HIV, despite containing similar ingredients.

*It is ONLY given to HIV negative people.

*If someone who takes prep is exposed to the HIV virus, they are extremely unlikely to contract it.

*To date there are only 4 cases globally where prep hasn't worked, but it was up against a rare and particularly aggressive strain of the virus.

*Prep does not protect against any other STD.

Think of it as being along the same lines as a vaccine.

Those who take prep AND use condoms are the safest people to play with.

Just to adjust your facts slightly.... PrEP (Pre-Exposure Prophylaxis) is given as Truvada(emtricitabine/tenofovir disoproxil fumarate)

Truvada IS one of the drugs given to HIV+ people in addition to another drug (combination therapy)

Otherwise a very good post and facts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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Who takes prep?

Lots of people.

Who should take prep?

Everyone on here that’s HIV negative, IMHO.

It’s an extra layer of defence against that horrible virus that none of us want.

Queue the safe sex only brigade shooting it down (please, spare us the lectures, a condom won’t protect you if it splits and yes, that can happen).

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

To some, this is true, although the risks of sex in general, whether protected or not are a far more wide ranging spectrum than most seem to realise.

Wearing a condom is a good defence, but isn’t the be-all and end-all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

To some, this is true, although the risks of sex in general, whether protected or not are a far more wide ranging spectrum than most seem to realise.

Wearing a condom is a good defence, but isn’t the be-all and end-all. "

I agree

PrEP is a good thing

Dropping all your sexual safety barriers because you're on it, not so

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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Definitely.

The amount of dudes I see stating they’re on it so they’re happy to take on all cummers (literally and figuratively) makes me think “you’re probably not for me mate”

Another one that everyone on here should be doing: Getting tested at least every three months (three months being the window period for syphillis).

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By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

I think not. People who play safe are unlikely to change because a playmate is on PrEP, and rightly so.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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This thread has the potential to descend into sweeping generalisations very quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

I think not. People who play safe are unlikely to change because a playmate is on PrEP, and rightly so. "

I've had people assume I'll have unprotected sex because I can't get pregnant.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

I think not. People who play safe are unlikely to change because a playmate is on PrEP, and rightly so.

I've had people assume I'll have unprotected sex because I can't get pregnant. "

Sadly, this doesn’t surprise me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Silly question

Where can we get this treatment?

Is it through GP or is it a private treatment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

I think not. People who play safe are unlikely to change because a playmate is on PrEP, and rightly so.

I've had people assume I'll have unprotected sex because I can't get pregnant. "

Neither can I, let's fuck

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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"Silly question

Where can we get this treatment?

Is it through GP or is it a private treatment?"

There’s the prep impact trial on at the moment but that has eligibility requirements.

It’s available privately through a company called dynamix international

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

I think not. People who play safe are unlikely to change because a playmate is on PrEP, and rightly so.

I've had people assume I'll have unprotected sex because I can't get pregnant.

Neither can I, let's fuck "

HA! Outstanding.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

"And who takes prep?

That's like asking who has Hep B vaccinations. It's another defence against the nasties out there for sexually active people. "

I think what they mean is who is entitled to it. Do you get it on the NHS? What makes someone entitled to get it? Are they already classed as risky? Or do you pay for it privately?

There must be criteria for it - so what is it?

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish

"And who takes prep?

That's like asking who has Hep B vaccinations. It's another defence against the nasties out there for sexually active people.

I think what they mean is who is entitled to it. Do you get it on the NHS? What makes someone entitled to get it? Are they already classed as risky? Or do you pay for it privately?

There must be criteria for it - so what is it?"

Public Health England answered my question.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

"And who takes prep?

That's like asking who has Hep B vaccinations. It's another defence against the nasties out there for sexually active people.

I think what they mean is who is entitled to it. Do you get it on the NHS? What makes someone entitled to get it? Are they already classed as risky? Or do you pay for it privately?

There must be criteria for it - so what is it?

Public Health England answered my question."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS. "

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive?

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

What STD is going to kill you in 2018?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive? "

An HIV+ partner who is on treatment and adherent to medication will be undetectable and therefore cannot pass the virus on, so no need for PrEP

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By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive? "

HIV positive people should be on a different treatment, which would bring the ability to pass the virus on down to zero.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Silly question

Where can we get this treatment?

Is it through GP or is it a private treatment?

There’s the prep impact trial on at the moment but that has eligibility requirements.

It’s available privately through a company called dynamix international"

Thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

What STD is going to kill you in 2018? "

That was kinda my point

That people will risk bareback with numerous partners

An inconvenient itch or a bit of cock puss is worth that risk

but when there was a death knoll looming, suddenly, the majority changed their outlook on things

Now PrEP is available to some, there are users who have reverted back to wild & wanton ways

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over a year ago

"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive?

HIV positive people should be on a different treatment, which would bring the ability to pass the virus on down to zero. "

So it's for people who have sex with people who may be HIV + but don't know they are?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just read that PreP treatment costs £280 a year. That doesn't seem much to safeguard your health .

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over a year ago

"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive?

HIV positive people should be on a different treatment, which would bring the ability to pass the virus on down to zero.

So it's for people who have sex with people who may be HIV + but don't know they are?"

In a nutshell, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive?

HIV positive people should be on a different treatment, which would bring the ability to pass the virus on down to zero.

So it's for people who have sex with people who may be HIV + but don't know they are?

In a nutshell, yes"

A person with HIV and unaware of their status and not on medication will have a high viral load and therefore infectious.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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Given that the majority of folk who acquire HIV from someone that doesn’t know they have it, yes.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

"I just read that PreP treatment costs £280 a year. That doesn't seem much to safeguard your health ."

Exactly. I’d rather have the added peace of mind that there’s the extra layer of protection there and for what it costs me, it’s more than worth it.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

""I am on PrEP" has become a different way of saying "I'm safe now, we can fuck raw" or "You might catch something, but at least it won't kill you"

What STD is going to kill you in 2018?

That was kinda my point

That people will risk bareback with numerous partners

An inconvenient itch or a bit of cock puss is worth that risk

but when there was a death knoll looming, suddenly, the majority changed their outlook on things

Now PrEP is available to some, there are users who have reverted back to wild & wanton ways "

Sorry I miss understood x

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By *ife2shortCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

and its this sense of entitlement that is killing this country. I can't get support for issues my kid has because there is no budget available despite having all appropriate diagnoses but there is funding available for preventative medication when all you really have to do is cover it up for 10 minutes. Selfish is what I call it!

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

Tamworth

Whilst I sympathise with your situation, that response is simply ignorant and unhelpful.

Condoms aren’t 100%, HIV needs to be eradicated and points of view such as that doesn’t help at all.

Most of us on it pay for it ourselves and use it as an added layer of protection on top of condoms AND regular testing.

By the same token would you advocate not treating those that have acquired HIV through a bad decision? Because that costs the health service?

What’s killing this country is the scumbag politicians in government and you’re eating it up straight out of their hand and blaming the population.

HIV is a global problem and every government in the world should be doing its bit to help get rid of it, as well as the people.

Your response is selfish, not people wanting a preventative against a preventative disease.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"Whilst I sympathise with your situation, that response is simply ignorant and unhelpful.

Condoms aren’t 100%, HIV needs to be eradicated and points of view such as that doesn’t help at all.

Most of us on it pay for it ourselves and use it as an added layer of protection on top of condoms AND regular testing.

By the same token would you advocate not treating those that have acquired HIV through a bad decision? Because that costs the health service?

What’s killing this country is the scumbag politicians in government and you’re eating it up straight out of their hand and blaming the population.

HIV is a global problem and every government in the world should be doing its bit to help get rid of it, as well as the people.

Your response is selfish, not people wanting a preventative against a preventative disease. "

I totally agree with this.

People make all kinds of decisions about their risk and welfare. Including drinking, smoking, drugs, dangerous sports and sex without protection.

The great thing about our health service is that it helps all the people and never judges.

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By *idsBiGuyMan
over a year ago

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^ Exactly. And nor should it.

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By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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"The prep impact trial is mainly for gay and bi men. That’s currently the only way to get it free on the NHS.

What about heterosexual partners of people who are HIV positive?

HIV positive people should be on a different treatment, which would bring the ability to pass the virus on down to zero.

So it's for people who have sex with people who may be HIV + but don't know they are?"

No. It's for people who have tested negative for HIV. It's very important to get tested and show a negative result before taking PrEP. Otherwise it could go the way of antibiotics and become ineffective.

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By *iway2016 OP Man
over a year ago

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Oops. I misread the question to my answer above. Yes. It's for people who may come into contact with an unmedicated HIV infected person.

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