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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem " Based on our anetdotal experience, we noticed a rapid decline in standards around this kind of behaviour. The net result being that we now only attend couple only nights. | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem Based on our anetdotal experience, we noticed a rapid decline in standards around this kind of behaviour. The net result being that we now only attend couple only nights. " Yes can fully understand your point it’s a night for fun and laughs, not to run the risk of a bad night | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem Based on our anetdotal experience, we noticed a rapid decline in standards around this kind of behaviour. The net result being that we now only attend couple only nights. Yes can fully understand your point it’s a night for fun and laughs, not to run the risk of a bad night " Exactly, it ruins the mood to keep reminding people of the rules. I started going to clubs around 2011 and just felt that the rules were impressed upon people and taken more seriously then. During our first tour of chameleons, the importance of 'asking before touching' was stressed many times. It seems a lot of newbies to other clubs are barely told this or told in passing. | |||
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"Well things are looking up, if unbiased reviews are now allowed and not deleted in the Teflon club section. ![]() When negative reviews go on, the drop in revenue must really hurt these places. | |||
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"We stopped going to clubs for that very reason. We were playing in a room with a guy with hubby watching, half way through the guy removed his condom and attempted to cum inside me without permission. Needless to say we prefer meets with guys who we have checked out beforehand these days." That is bad one afraid he’d have gone out like 40watt bulb | |||
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"I am not in to clubs scene n stuff but ffs give the guys at break everytime moaning about single guys " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I am not in to clubs scene n stuff but ffs give the guys at break everytime moaning about single guys " Return it’s not directed hopefully at all single guys, we have met some great guys who enjoy a good laugh, but seems there are a few who seems to think it’s okay to go to far. | |||
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"We have met some very respectful single guys who totally get it but it really isn't worth it for us to go to clubs on any night other than couples nights as we want a sexy relaxing night without unwarranted attention." ![]() | |||
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"I've never seen any bad behaviour at clubs... Been lucky I suppose! " That’s good to hear | |||
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"Most clubs are pretty tight on manging behaviour of single guys and have staff on duty to approach and warn anyone stepping out of line The only real issues I've seen at clubs are the wanking dead who follow couple and single ladies around; but they are normally very quickly warned about their behaviour " PMSL ![]() | |||
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"For this reason I’m dubious about going to a club as a single guy as I don’t want to be stereo typed ! Lol " How you act and joke being polite increases success and removes the stereotype feeling and soon blend in with popularity | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem " Some do some don't I would say only a small percentage of single men misbehave in clubs. It really is down to pot luck who is in a club at the time you go I guess. | |||
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"For this reason I’m dubious about going to a club as a single guy as I don’t want to be stereo typed ! Lol How you act and joke being polite increases success and removes the stereotype feeling and soon blend in with popularity " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... " Well said. Couldn't agree more. ![]() | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem Based on our anetdotal experience, we noticed a rapid decline in standards around this kind of behaviour. The net result being that we now only attend couple only nights. Yes can fully understand your point it’s a night for fun and laughs, not to run the risk of a bad night Exactly, it ruins the mood to keep reminding people of the rules. I started going to clubs around 2011 and just felt that the rules were impressed upon people and taken more seriously then. During our first tour of chameleons, the importance of 'asking before touching' was stressed many times. It seems a lot of newbies to other clubs are barely told this or told in passing. " You got a tour and were told the rules.....I am impressed. I went there for the first time two weeks ago and despite telling them three times that I had never been here before, and a single lady on my own, they just wanted to give me a locker key and send me into the building. I had to push to have someone take me to where the lockers were. Then I was left to my own devices to look around the club, which is a complete maze, I kept trying to open doors that turned out to go no-where. Nothing is really signposted. Eventually another member took pity on me and gave me a tour explaining everything. I also went in to that club having not joined as a member nor having my ID checked. Yes I was on a guest list but the rule was that non members had to bring ID but they had no interest in seeing it. If that is how they run things these days it goes a long way to explaining why I had to leave in the early evening. Kept being groped by single men and one man was absolutely pissed and kept making nasty comments about the women (it was a BBW event which he apparently did not know beforehand) no staff around to deal with anything. They are just stationed at the bar...what use is that when your two floors above on your own. I doubt single men are told anything when they join these days and act as they like. It was also unclear who was actually a member of staff and who were the customers. Staff wear nothing to identify themselves as staff. They dress, or rather undress, just the same as the customers. | |||
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"We only go to club nights where single guys are allowed entry (I'm greedy!) but we have never had any problems with single guys. Most clubs carefully explain the rules on their first visit and the single guys always seem to follow them in our experience." No one explained anything to me when I went to Chams for the first time two weeks ago. I spent some time in the company of a man I arranged to meet there and when I was with him I had no problems at all but once he left and I remained on my own I was constantly groped as a means of initiating contact....apparently the art of conversation has been lost. I think when your part of a couple and your man is around the single men, or even the man from another couple, would not dare touch you because they will have "your man" to deal with....but a single lady on her own is fair game in their eyes. Not saying every single man is like it.....not at all but a significant amount to ruin the evening and cause you to go home early. Also d*unken behaviour by men and women ruins an evening for me..... | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... " I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Find most very respectable..in 15 years of clubbing only had 1 real problem...which was sorted out quickly..with the price the singles get charged nowdays ..i do sometimes feel they think they deserve something for the entry fee" Maybe that’s the way some feel we’ve paid can help ourselves | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Find most very respectable..in 15 years of clubbing only had 1 real problem...which was sorted out quickly..with the price the singles get charged nowdays ..i do sometimes feel they think they deserve something for the entry fee Maybe that’s the way some feel we’ve paid can help ourselves " Then they need to be in a brothel, not a swingers club. | |||
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"I’ve only been going to clubs for about 18 months and only in the north but I’ve seen bad behaviour from men, women and couples in equal proportion. Alcohol plays a large part. The biggest thing single men could do to improve their chances would be to make eye contact with people in the bar and talk to them. The number of men who won’t have ANY social interaction in the bar but then try to get involved in play always astonishes me." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We've personally never had a problem with single males. A few linger around and stare a little longer than whats deemed as socially acceptable ![]() Yeah - sorry about that! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We've personally never had a problem with single males. A few linger around and stare a little longer than whats deemed as socially acceptable ![]() ![]() ![]() perv | |||
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"We've personally never had a problem with single males. A few linger around and stare a little longer than whats deemed as socially acceptable ![]() ![]() ![]() Haha hey peachy ![]() | |||
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"Find most very respectable..in 15 years of clubbing only had 1 real problem...which was sorted out quickly..with the price the singles get charged nowdays ..i do sometimes feel they think they deserve something for the entry fee Maybe that’s the way some feel we’ve paid can help ourselves Then they need to be in a brothel, not a swingers club. " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"For this reason I’m dubious about going to a club as a single guy as I don’t want to be stereo typed ! Lol " not just at a club on here also. cant help themselves | |||
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"I am not in to clubs scene n stuff but ffs give the guys at break everytime moaning about single guys " I think people have been pretty balanced, saying that only a minority of blokes are behaving like dicks... ...but if some are behaving like dicks then these guys deserve to be moaned at | |||
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"I've had more problems with women than single guys. Some women tend to assume that all women are bi and up for playing with any and all other women. And that all men want to watch women together ![]() Exactly what I was thinking. I've never had to tell a guy twice to stop touching but I can think of a few women who can't take no for an answer. | |||
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"We only go to club nights where single guys are allowed entry (I'm greedy!) but we have never had any problems with single guys. Most clubs carefully explain the rules on their first visit and the single guys always seem to follow them in our experience. No one explained anything to me when I went to Chams for the first time two weeks ago. I spent some time in the company of a man I arranged to meet there and when I was with him I had no problems at all but once he left and I remained on my own I was constantly groped as a means of initiating contact....apparently the art of conversation has been lost. I think when your part of a couple and your man is around the single men, or even the man from another couple, would not dare touch you because they will have "your man" to deal with....but a single lady on her own is fair game in their eyes. Not saying every single man is like it.....not at all but a significant amount to ruin the evening and cause you to go home early. Also d*unken behaviour by men and women ruins an evening for me....." I can personally vouch for the staff at chams,they are a hard working great bunch and do a great job and monitor the place well.Its a big sized club with lots going on and they do work hard and the rest should be to the members to behave and respect the place and clean up their own mess which sadly isn’t always the case! So behave keep it tidy and enjoy the night people ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem " Not sure where you’ve been looking. We haven’t noticed anything like this ![]() | |||
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"For this reason I’m dubious about going to a club as a single guy as I don’t want to be stereo typed ! Lol not just at a club on here also. cant help themselves" If your experiences here are that bad then why do you stay? | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem Not sure where you’ve been looking. We haven’t noticed anything like this ![]() I can name one club in London that has this very problem, and has done over the years. It will never change. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice..." What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? | |||
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"This is what makes it hard for genuine good single guys. I just say hello or hi to people in clubs " Does it get you very far? If it does, rub some of your luck on me please. The few times I go to clubs I've acted exactly as how people on here say single men should just act and be like in a swinger club, and yet I could spend an hour or two socialising and working the crowd and I'd still lose out to a couple gym-rat kind of guys swaggering in and straight up going predator mode looking for a shag from the women in attendance. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? " The difference is payment. I don’t get paid to be there, I’m there by choice. If you’re a paid ‘hostess’ you’re in a sex club. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? The difference is payment. I don’t get paid to be there, I’m there by choice. If you’re a paid ‘hostess’ you’re in a sex club. " You'll find that those places are quite illegal in the UK, since that would be considered pimping. | |||
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"This is what makes it hard for genuine good single guys. I just say hello or hi to people in clubs Does it get you very far? If it does, rub some of your luck on me please. The few times I go to clubs I've acted exactly as how people on here say single men should just act and be like in a swinger club, and yet I could spend an hour or two socialising and working the crowd and I'd still lose out to a couple gym-rat kind of guys swaggering in and straight up going predator mode looking for a shag from the women in attendance. " Really? Oh, poor thing. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? The difference is payment. I don’t get paid to be there, I’m there by choice. If you’re a paid ‘hostess’ you’re in a sex club. You'll find that those places are quite illegal in the UK, since that would be considered pimping. " You best go tell the two clubs in the Midlands that then. | |||
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"This is what makes it hard for genuine good single guys. I just say hello or hi to people in clubs Does it get you very far? If it does, rub some of your luck on me please. The few times I go to clubs I've acted exactly as how people on here say single men should just act and be like in a swinger club, and yet I could spend an hour or two socialising and working the crowd and I'd still lose out to a couple gym-rat kind of guys swaggering in and straight up going predator mode looking for a shag from the women in attendance. Really? Oh, poor thing." I don't like your mocking tone. You think it's just me trying to elicit some sad violin-playing sympathy for myself? If you can help me figure out what's wrong with my club experiences in the past as a single male, oh please do feel free. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? The difference is payment. I don’t get paid to be there, I’m there by choice. If you’re a paid ‘hostess’ you’re in a sex club. You'll find that those places are quite illegal in the UK, since that would be considered pimping. You best go tell the two clubs in the Midlands that then. " Well I have no idea which two clubs in the Midlands do that. And even if I did, I still wouldn't go. | |||
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"I visit a club on my own, daytime! Lots of single guys visit, I've had no problems. Up to the people to complain to the hosts/owners, so they can deal with it promptly! " Finally some sort of sensible perspective | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? The difference is payment. I don’t get paid to be there, I’m there by choice. If you’re a paid ‘hostess’ you’re in a sex club. You'll find that those places are quite illegal in the UK, since that would be considered pimping. You best go tell the two clubs in the Midlands that then. Well I have no idea which two clubs in the Midlands do that. And even if I did, I still wouldn't go. " Then we share an opinion. I didn’t say I liked them. | |||
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"It’s rare I have issues with single guys - however many there are in a club! I tend to find a clear and polite ‘no thank you ‘ does the trick. Only on a handful of occasions in almost 5 years of clubbing has that not proved sufficient to deter them! In all fairness I’ve had my arse groped etc without permission by at least as many women as men! I don’t think most people mean any harm - but if you’re a newbie, or don’t get to clubs regularly, then I’m sure it can be easy to get carried away with the excitement of it all! If someone is persistently pushy then reporting it to the club staff/manager is the best course of action - they generally deal with it quickly and discreetly! Peachy xx" Funny you should say that you’ve obviously dealt with the odd incident correctly and with little drama I think some people prefer the drama | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? " Just to clarify there is very big difference between a swingers club and a sex club. A sex club is basically a brothel dressed up to look posh and referred to as a gentleman's club so as not to cause offense to the women who work there or the men who frequent it. The women are hostesses, posh name for a prostitute, and they are paid to have sex with the customers. In a swingers club everyone is the customer. The customers choose to have sex with each other. No one is making them do anything and no one is in the clubs employment. A decent club will ban staff from playing. How can you possibly claim going to a sex club and having a woman service you because it is her job to is the same thing as going to a swingers club and having sex with a woman who has chosen to do so. I can only assume you do not know the context to which "sex club" is commonly referred. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? Just to clarify there is very big difference between a swingers club and a sex club. A sex club is basically a brothel dressed up to look posh and referred to as a gentleman's club so as not to cause offense to the women who work there or the men who frequent it. The women are hostesses, posh name for a prostitute, and they are paid to have sex with the customers. In a swingers club everyone is the customer. The customers choose to have sex with each other. No one is making them do anything and no one is in the clubs employment. A decent club will ban staff from playing. How can you possibly claim going to a sex club and having a woman service you because it is her job to is the same thing as going to a swingers club and having sex with a woman who has chosen to do so. I can only assume you do not know the context to which "sex club" is commonly referred. " No, I didn't get the context by which "sex club" is commonly referred. Thanks for enlightening me. But still, it doesn't detract from my previous point that too many on here try to make going to a swinger club something high-brow or overly-pretentious with the whole "socialising" dimension of it, when clearly people go there because they're looking to have some sexy fun with willing parties. In such an environment and context, I never understood why it was alright to give the patronising advice to men who talk about having bad experiences in clubs, or give suggestions on how men could make the overall swinger club experience for all better, by "just going without thinking about playing and just go to have fun and socialise". To me it sounds extremely patronising when you combine that with the inflated entrance fees single men are subjected to, as well as the fact that there's a horrendous gender and population imbalance within the swinging community that seems to give far more leeway to couples and single women to behave and approach swinging and swinger clubs in manners that wouldn't be accepted in single men. | |||
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"We only go to club nights where single guys are allowed entry (I'm greedy!) but we have never had any problems with single guys. Most clubs carefully explain the rules on their first visit and the single guys always seem to follow them in our experience. No one explained anything to me when I went to Chams for the first time two weeks ago. I spent some time in the company of a man I arranged to meet there and when I was with him I had no problems at all but once he left and I remained on my own I was constantly groped as a means of initiating contact....apparently the art of conversation has been lost. I think when your part of a couple and your man is around the single men, or even the man from another couple, would not dare touch you because they will have "your man" to deal with....but a single lady on her own is fair game in their eyes. Not saying every single man is like it.....not at all but a significant amount to ruin the evening and cause you to go home early. Also d*unken behaviour by men and women ruins an evening for me..... I can personally vouch for the staff at chams,they are a hard working great bunch and do a great job and monitor the place well.Its a big sized club with lots going on and they do work hard and the rest should be to the members to behave and respect the place and clean up their own mess which sadly isn’t always the case! So behave keep it tidy and enjoy the night people ![]() ![]() In your opinion and experience...my experience of the staff is quite different.... What you just wrote reads like a management PR statement.....you the owner by any chance?????? | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? " We'll it's like the difference between having sex with a prostitute and having sex with a partner. Would you struggle to distinguish those two things? | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? We'll it's like the difference between having sex with a prostitute and having sex with a partner. Would you struggle to distinguish those two things? " Do please read my updated reply just a bit above here. Like I said, I had no idea about the context whereby "sex club" is used in the UK, mainly because I was operating under the understanding that having a brothel or pimping is strictly illegal in this country. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? Just to clarify there is very big difference between a swingers club and a sex club. A sex club is basically a brothel dressed up to look posh and referred to as a gentleman's club so as not to cause offense to the women who work there or the men who frequent it. The women are hostesses, posh name for a prostitute, and they are paid to have sex with the customers. In a swingers club everyone is the customer. The customers choose to have sex with each other. No one is making them do anything and no one is in the clubs employment. A decent club will ban staff from playing. How can you possibly claim going to a sex club and having a woman service you because it is her job to is the same thing as going to a swingers club and having sex with a woman who has chosen to do so. I can only assume you do not know the context to which "sex club" is commonly referred. No, I didn't get the context by which "sex club" is commonly referred. Thanks for enlightening me. But still, it doesn't detract from my previous point that too many on here try to make going to a swinger club something high-brow or overly-pretentious with the whole "socialising" dimension of it, when clearly people go there because they're looking to have some sexy fun with willing parties. In such an environment and context, I never understood why it was alright to give the patronising advice to men who talk about having bad experiences in clubs, or give suggestions on how men could make the overall swinger club experience for all better, by "just going without thinking about playing and just go to have fun and socialise". To me it sounds extremely patronising when you combine that with the inflated entrance fees single men are subjected to, as well as the fact that there's a horrendous gender and population imbalance within the swinging community that seems to give far more leeway to couples and single women to behave and approach swinging and swinger clubs in manners that wouldn't be accepted in single men. " If there is a protest I nominate you to speak on behalf of single men | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? Just to clarify there is very big difference between a swingers club and a sex club. A sex club is basically a brothel dressed up to look posh and referred to as a gentleman's club so as not to cause offense to the women who work there or the men who frequent it. The women are hostesses, posh name for a prostitute, and they are paid to have sex with the customers. In a swingers club everyone is the customer. The customers choose to have sex with each other. No one is making them do anything and no one is in the clubs employment. A decent club will ban staff from playing. How can you possibly claim going to a sex club and having a woman service you because it is her job to is the same thing as going to a swingers club and having sex with a woman who has chosen to do so. I can only assume you do not know the context to which "sex club" is commonly referred. No, I didn't get the context by which "sex club" is commonly referred. Thanks for enlightening me. But still, it doesn't detract from my previous point " My post is a direct response to your post saying a swingers club and a sex club are the same thing... Anything else has nothing to do with it. Your having multiple conversations about different aspect within the subject of single men in clubs. I have not read all your comments and I was clearly replying to just one in particular. Which was blatently incorrect. I appreciate you did not know the context in which swingers regard sex clubs. I suspected you didn't get the context. | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs." Interesting thought about club's allowing you to bring your own alcohol. At my local club you hand in your drink and the barman pours it for you. People get proper measures and if staff notice anyone drinking heavily, they stop serving them alcohol and advise them to drink non alcoholic drinks. Alcohol consumption is monitored and every petson attending the club is given a tour and acceptable behaviour is always discussed, even if people have been to loads of club's previously. If you find you get problems at a club on a regular basis, it sounds like the management are not being notified , or are not dealing with it. So go elsewhere ! | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? We'll it's like the difference between having sex with a prostitute and having sex with a partner. Would you struggle to distinguish those two things? Do please read my updated reply just a bit above here. Like I said, I had no idea about the context whereby "sex club" is used in the UK, mainly because I was operating under the understanding that having a brothel or pimping is strictly illegal in this country. " It is illegal to tout for business as either party. So the sex worker cannot advertise nor stand on a street corner offering services. Likewise the customer cannot curb crawl or entice a person to prostitute themself. However it is not illegal to pay for sex nor receive money in exchange for sex. So there are ways of going about it to evade the illegal bits. Hence calling places a gentleman's club and naming the staff hostesses. It would be argued that the men had paid to enter the club when in reality they have paid to enter the women. | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. Interesting thought about club's allowing you to bring your own alcohol. At my local club you hand in your drink and the barman pours it for you. People get proper measures and if staff notice anyone drinking heavily, they stop serving them alcohol and advise them to drink non alcoholic drinks. Alcohol consumption is monitored and every petson attending the club is given a tour and acceptable behaviour is always discussed, even if people have been to loads of club's previously. If you find you get problems at a club on a regular basis, it sounds like the management are not being notified , or are not dealing with it. So go elsewhere !" ![]() | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. Interesting thought about club's allowing you to bring your own alcohol. At my local club you hand in your drink and the barman pours it for you. People get proper measures and if staff notice anyone drinking heavily, they stop serving them alcohol and advise them to drink non alcoholic drinks. Alcohol consumption is monitored and every petson attending the club is given a tour and acceptable behaviour is always discussed, even if people have been to loads of club's previously. If you find you get problems at a club on a regular basis, it sounds like the management are not being notified , or are not dealing with it. So go elsewhere !" In the clubs defence perhaps they do take peoples alcohol off them and serve it back to them. Not 100% sure to be honest. I do know that they forgo ID checks, tours and club rule lectures when it suits them. Maybe they did not bother with me because I am female but that would be discriminatory towards men to make them subject to these checks and procedures. Everyone should go through the same joining procedure. | |||
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"I visit a club on my own, daytime! Lots of single guys visit, I've had no problems. Up to the people to complain to the hosts/owners, so they can deal with it promptly! Finally some sort of sensible perspective " Oh, thank you - I thought so too ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? We'll it's like the difference between having sex with a prostitute and having sex with a partner. Would you struggle to distinguish those two things? " Well one you pay £60 for 30 mins she’s out of your life and the other you have to pay for the rest of your life ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Swingers Clubs is where we tend to go as opposed to sex clubs. We aren’t interested in clubs where people aren’t there purely from choice... What's the difference between a swinger club and a sex club? There's no difference at all. Stop trying to make it sound like there's a distinction when there isn't. If you go to a swingers club time and again without the explicit intentions of ending the night fucking someone from there, then frankly what are you even doing going there to socialise when a normal nightclub or bar/pub would serve just as nicely for far lower costs? " A sex club will have paid 'hostesses' just a posh name for a brothel. So you see, there's a bloody huge diffence there! ![]() | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs." That isn't even slightly the reason some clubs choose not to serve alcohol. | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. That isn't even slightly the reason some clubs choose not to serve alcohol. " Most clubs can't get an alcohol licence, either because they'll be denied or because they time and cost involved isn't worth it. The only two I've visited that have on (VA and Xtasia) had theirs before they became swingers clubs. | |||
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"Just reading club reviews, a lot saying single guys getting confrontational, touching grabbing. Getting over excited grouping together is it becoming a problem " yep some are pricks | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. That isn't even slightly the reason some clubs choose not to serve alcohol. Most clubs can't get an alcohol licence, either because they'll be denied or because they time and cost involved isn't worth it. The only two I've visited that have on (VA and Xtasia) had theirs before they became swingers clubs." And also an alcohol licence means free entry by police with no cause as well as customs and excuse, etc. Plus, yes, getting a licence would be difficult for some clubs, personally I prefer clubs without, tends to work out cheaper ![]() | |||
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"the single males are not the worse by a country mile in our 20 years of swinging the worse have been the couples and or the male side of couples who think they can do as they please with protection of being a ''couple'' also no one ever moans about the single women who are d*unk and making idiots of themselves ?? nope lets just knock the guys ..in truth there's idiots in all groups... I agree and clubs that allow people to bring their own alcohol are just off loading their responsibilities. If you had to buy your drink from the club and you were d*unk they would, by law, have to refuse to serve you......bring your own and you carry on until your wrecked. I had the misfortune to approach a man who turned out to be wrecked in a club where you bring your own alcohol and he had his car outside......but the club take no responsibility for that as they never served him the alcohol....it is a get out of jail free card for the club not to serve alcohol but allow it on the premises. The responsibility is now yours and not theirs. That isn't even slightly the reason some clubs choose not to serve alcohol. Most clubs can't get an alcohol licence, either because they'll be denied or because they time and cost involved isn't worth it. The only two I've visited that have on (VA and Xtasia) had theirs before they became swingers clubs. And also an alcohol licence means free entry by police with no cause as well as customs and excuse, etc. Plus, yes, getting a licence would be difficult for some clubs, personally I prefer clubs without, tends to work out cheaper ![]() By definition of a club means the police can only enter by invitation, as for hmrc every six years expect them to be in contact anyway, but they can enter but why would they | |||
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"Most men I speak to in a particular club, don't use Fab. So the only thing I can say is 'If you see it report it!' - even if you arent directly involved! " ![]() | |||
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