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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site).

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

and where they put it on THEIR profile is up to them...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

another argument for actually reading peoples profiles..she states she's post op..where's the problem. Unless of course someone just bangs off a mail without reading the profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"another argument for actually reading peoples profiles..she states she's post op..where's the problem. Unless of course someone just bangs off a mail without reading the profile"

That^^^^^^^^

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

I did read the profile, but as it was right at the end of the profile, it would be easy to miss(quite a long profile).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you read the whole profile it shouldn't matter where it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I did read the profile, but as it was right at the end of the profile, it would be easy to miss(quite a long profile). "

Maybe but then you'd be astounded at the amount of people who claim to 'miss' the very first paragraph of ours

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

Cant see a problem here, she has stated this on her profile, wether it is a long worded one or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So long as it's been made clear, I don't see any problem with where the profile holder tells you that he/she is a post op TS ....

It's their profile and totally up to them how they display their information

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

As long as it's somewhere on her profile then I don't see what the problem is.

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

Yes she can do what she wants to with her profile. My point was that its quite an important bit of information so should be made clearer. That's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im with you mate. If she's listed as a woman then it should be somewhere obvious. Like at the top. In bold and underscored!!

Nothing against her but and its just my opinion, but any confusion later down the line could be bad. Obviously unless theres site rules on it then nothing can be done and it is upto her where she puts it.

But it seems a dengerous game to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes she can do what she wants to with her profile. My point was that its quite an important bit of information so should be made clearer. That's all. "

You spotted it, so where's the problem?

Did you knock one out reading the profile and got to the end and it was a case of ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes she can do what she wants to with her profile. My point was that its quite an important bit of information so should be made clearer. That's all.

You spotted it, so where's the problem?

Did you knock one out reading the profile and got to the end and it was a case of ?

"

Hahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS
over a year ago

Cheadle


"another argument for actually reading peoples profiles..she states she's post op..where's the problem. Unless of course someone just bangs off a mail without reading the profile

That^^^^^^^^"

yes +1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?"

It is.........

Gender Recognition Act 2004

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"Yes she can do what she wants to with her profile. My point was that its quite an important bit of information so should be made clearer. That's all.

You spotted it, so where's the problem?

Did you knock one out reading the profile and got to the end and it was a case of ?

"

No lol. She was in a chatroom and i took a quick look at her profile. Done nothing for me im afraid. I was just offering some advice to her from a male point of _iew. She then came out with some stuff about she doesnt have to disclose medical information etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site). "

Mate she was classed as a woman on the site because she is a woman xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?"

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

Look before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick, my point to her simply was that as its quite an important thing, she should display it at the start of her profile. I didnt say anything else about tv/ts/cd's etc.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

"

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"Look before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick, my point to her simply was that as its quite an important thing, she should display it at the start of her profile. I didnt say anything else about tv/ts/cd's etc. "

Ive an idea... a large neon sign or big arrows pointing it out should help

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS"

I didnt mention anything about medical records- she did. I think it was her way of saying she didnt have to mention anything about being a post op tv. All i did was say if she was a post op tv, i think it should be made very clear on her profile.

Regards to the legal side of what to call her, im not getting into that. Simply a case of putting your a post op tv clearly so no people dont miss it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS"

It seems dangerous to me then. I expect its less than 50% of guys who read profiles not to mention those who cut and paste loads at a time.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS

I didnt mention anything about medical records- she did. I think it was her way of saying she didnt have to mention anything about being a post op tv. All i did was say if she was a post op tv, i think it should be made very clear on her profile.

Regards to the legal side of what to call her, im not getting into that. Simply a case of putting your a post op tv clearly so no people dont miss it. "

You seem to be getting yourself all upset over something that has nothing to do with you. They don't have to take your advice, or even put anything they don't want to on their own profile.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS

I didnt mention anything about medical records- she did. I think it was her way of saying she didnt have to mention anything about being a post op tv. All i did was say if she was a post op tv, i think it should be made very clear on her profile.

Regards to the legal side of what to call her, im not getting into that. Simply a case of putting your a post op tv clearly so no people dont miss it. "

she DID make it clear, in plain English..... just not where YOU want it

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

and suggest you put on your... I Don't Meet Post Op Transexuals.

pop it anywhere you like

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS
over a year ago

Cheadle


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS

I didnt mention anything about medical records- she did. I think it was her way of saying she didnt have to mention anything about being a post op tv. All i did was say if she was a post op tv, i think it should be made very clear on her profile.

Regards to the legal side of what to call her, im not getting into that. Simply a case of putting your a post op tv clearly so no people dont miss it. "

But you said it was on her profile, I don't understnd your problem hun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day if she's looking to meet single guy's should she mention it?

morally and in the interests of being honest? probably

Legally? No.It's not a requirement

But she is being honest and that's the decision she's taken. To be honest.

Had she not mentioned it I'd have as much as a problem with it as the OP seems to have

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"if she's post op is 'woman' not the correct category? legally?

I honestly dont know. But look at it from a straight mans point of _iew, he takes a shine to her. And misses the post op part, or doesnt read much of the profile. Which we know happens! What if they end up meeting as he finds out.

I know she might mention it in email exchanges but what if she doesnt.

Some men would react badly. And I think it is a bigger deal than a lot of you think, but each their own.

But she doesn't have to mention it in email exchanges. Anyone who takes the time to read her profile would already know and can make an informed decision based on that. Because that's what they've been..Informed. And going back to the OP when did people have to start divulging their medical records? FFS

I didnt mention anything about medical records- she did. I think it was her way of saying she didnt have to mention anything about being a post op tv. All i did was say if she was a post op tv, i think it should be made very clear on her profile.

Regards to the legal side of what to call her, im not getting into that. Simply a case of putting your a post op tv clearly so no people dont miss it.

You seem to be getting yourself all upset over something that has nothing to do with you. They don't have to take your advice, or even put anything they don't want to on their own profile. "

No i couldnt give a toss, what i got upset about was when she took what i said out of context and made out i was anti ts. Just because i dont want to meet one, doesnt mean im prejudiced, just as someone who doesnt want to meet a black man isnt racist.

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside


"

You seem to be getting yourself all upset over something that has nothing to do with you. They don't have to take your advice, or even put anything they don't want to on their own profile.

No i couldnt give a toss, what i got upset about was when she took what i said out of context and made out i was anti ts. Just because i dont want to meet one, doesnt mean im prejudiced, just as someone who doesnt want to meet a black man isnt racist. "

If you "couldn't give a toss" you wouldn't have started a thread about it and seeing as this wasn't even on here (as you said earlier) it makes it even more likely that you might just give a toss after all!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

as long as they made it clear on the profile then I still don't see what the problem is....

they are not lying or deceiving anybody...

maybe people should be using it as an example as to why someone should read an entire profile....

is people don't read an entire profile and miss out information, thats not the fault of the person who wrote it....

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

No i couldnt give a toss, what i got upset about was when she took what i said out of context and made out i was anti ts. Just because i dont want to meet one, doesnt mean im prejudiced, just as someone who doesnt want to meet a black man isnt racist. "

absolutely right... however if i read down to the bottom, and they put "no black guys" at the end.... I know not to answer...

as long as the information is there does it matter where it is...or should they put that right at the top.. in big bold neon lights....

do you see how silly that arguement is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as long as they made it clear on the profile then I still don't see what the problem is....

they are not lying or deceiving anybody...

maybe people should be using it as an example as to why someone should read an entire profile....

is people don't read an entire profile and miss out information, thats not the fault of the person who wrote it...."

True I guess. But shouldnt you hope for the best and plan for the worst?

We all know people, especially horny men, by the majority. Wont read all the profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always read the smallprint!

XXXX

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS
over a year ago

Cheadle

how petty of you to take umbridge at something this girl said to you, have you really no idea what these transgendered people have to go through to get to where they feel comfortable with themselves???, shame on you and your ingorance of their sufferings, before you dismiss these people with complaints about how they should write their profiles, maybe you should actually take some of your precious time to get to know some of them, you might understand them much better then, take care, hugz, Ruby, xxxx (part time transvestite)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We all know people, especially horny men, by the majority. Wont read all the profile."

Aye true and thats the biggest mistake the majority of men make

Cause if they cant be arsed even to read the manual how the hell ar they going to be when doing the job experience is a wonderful thing xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We all know people, especially horny men, by the majority. Wont read all the profile."

That is sometimes the case. And the recipients of the folowing mail nearly always recognise that their profile hasn't been read.Which kinda makes the mail null and void. Theres loads of threads on here about how single males should approach it and Fabio is nearly always right. Without wishing to sound condescending read his posts and take note

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By *thyorksCouple
over a year ago

ROTHERHAM

No matter where it is on the profile it makes no odds in our opinion.

As someone mentioned here

Read all the profile top to bottom.

including the small print..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The moral of the story ?

Read profiles FULLY .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Approach a profile as you would a book. There can be important bits all the way through and the deal clincher is usually at the end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site). "

If you have no problem why wouldn't you want to meet? Why does this post sound so aggressive and angry? And you subsequent posts so defensive?

Me suspects that the gentleman doth protest too much...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes she can do what she wants to with her profile. My point was that its quite an important bit of information so should be made clearer. That's all.

You spotted it, so where's the problem?

Did you knock one out reading the profile and got to the end and it was a case of ?

"

I have to admit that's exactly what I thought as I don't see what the problem is either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this is the same as a single guy putting on his profile that he is straight then when you get to the BOTTOM of his profile the only verification is from a Bi male no one would complain about this so why should a post op ts have to put it at the top of HER profile you complaining she is post up does this meen you would have prefered her to be Pre op carnt see the problem her profile so up to here how it worded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't understand the problem...

If she's post-op, then she's a woman - either you find her interesting and attractive in her own right, or you don't - that's all there is to say...

I've had lesbian post-op ts lovers before now, and they were completely female and feminine, and lovely company.

And I liked them for their personality - not for their past!!!

If you have a problem with this issue - then it's your problem - not hers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It seems dangerous to me then. I expect its less than 50% of guys who read profiles not to mention those who cut and paste loads at a time."

Why on earth is it dangerous? And for who excatly?

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By *obblybitsCouple
over a year ago

huddersfield

I completely see it as her choice to put what she wants BUT in my eyes as a post op for my safety on a meet I would put it at the begging middle and end so no men were wrongly led which could end badly.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"I completely see it as her choice to put what she wants BUT in my eyes as a post op for my safety on a meet I would put it at the begging middle and end so no men were wrongly led which could end badly. "

Maybe its me, but why put it in the start, middle and end? If people read profiles there is no need, if they dont thats their look out. Thats like saying oh im bi/gay ect and someone coming on and saying that should be at the start middle and end.

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site).

If you have no problem why wouldn't you want to meet? Why does this post sound so aggressive and angry? And you subsequent posts so defensive?

Me suspects that the gentleman doth protest too much..."

Yes ive got no problem with them, but that is different than actually wanting to meet them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I completely see it as her choice to put what she wants BUT in my eyes as a post op for my safety on a meet I would put it at the begging middle and end so no men were wrongly led which could end badly. "

Why? It's like when I read profiles from some bbws, every sentence their size is mentioned...why? It's usually followed by "jog on".

It's stated on the profile, if people are unable to read more than a sentence that's their look out.

Besides, don't you think there'd be further discussions before a meet, so no more danger than the rest of us face.

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By *obblybitsCouple
over a year ago

huddersfield

I know but I would just feel I had to out of fear tbh of meeting someone who didn't know. Then again like you said if people read all of the profile they would know.. I say about my size because I have msg sent back when we have said no thank you saying well fuck of you fat slut so it is in hope that they will stay away when seeing it

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"I know but I would just feel I had to out of fear tbh of meeting someone who didn't know. Then again like you said if people read all of the profile they would know.. I say about my size because I have msg sent back when we have said no thank you saying well fuck of you fat slut so it is in hope that they will stay away when seeing it"

If people are abusive report profile, some cant take rejection at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know but I would just feel I had to out of fear tbh of meeting someone who didn't know. Then again like you said if people read all of the profile they would know.. I say about my size because I have msg sent back when we have said no thank you saying well fuck of you fat slut so it is in hope that they will stay away when seeing it"

There are some really sad shallow worthles pices of ........ in this world

Insecure, imature, mamams tit sucking bastards xx

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"I know but I would just feel I had to out of fear tbh of meeting someone who didn't know. Then again like you said if people read all of the profile they would know.. I say about my size because I have msg sent back when we have said no thank you saying well fuck of you fat slut so it is in hope that they will stay away when seeing it

There are some really sad shallow worthles pices of ........ in this world

Insecure, imature, mamams tit sucking bastards xx "

you said that better than me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know but I would just feel I had to out of fear tbh of meeting someone who didn't know. Then again like you said if people read all of the profile they would know.. I say about my size because I have msg sent back when we have said no thank you saying well fuck of you fat slut so it is in hope that they will stay away when seeing it"

I'm big too. I don't get abuse as I make it plain I don't reply to people outwith my profile. If they can't read that's not my problem.

Those that meet what I'm looking for but don't float my boat get a nice message. Further correspondence is ignored...don't encourage them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cant see what the problem is.

She has classified herself as a woman because she is a woman.

She didnt have to put that was a post op transexual. Her medical history has nothing to do with anyone.

I havent listed any of my operations on my profile either.

It would be no different from looking at any womans profile would it not, read the profile, look at the pics, message, arrange to meet.....

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By *erendipityWoman
over a year ago

Hertfordshire


"Look before anyone gets the wrong end of the stick, my point to her simply was that as its quite an important thing, she should display it at the start of her profile. I didnt say anything else about tv/ts/cd's etc. "

Was her request for opinions from people not interested in meeting someone like her at the top, middle or bottom of her profile?

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

Was her name Miriam by any chance...?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yes, I agree totally and with all the other similar comments, if you read the entire profile it doesn't matter where it is placed. Depends if you're a people person or just concerned with getting your end away.

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

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By *inaTitzTV/TS
over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I only think it matters where something is on a profile to the owner of that profile. If you come across a great profile and then get to the end and find they don't and under no circumstances want to meet someone like you or you discover that the lady will play, provided her 12" long hubby gets to do you first, then it is just bad luck, really.

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By *arambarMan
over a year ago

swindon

I've seen some post-Op TS women fully clothed and they looked gorgeous. You wouldn't necessarily know they were previously men.

However I've never seen a pussy that's been created from a surgeon's scalpel. Do they look realistic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site). "

post op TS are women, if they commit a crime and go to prison they go to a woman prison, they can change their sex to be female on a bank account, pass port and driver licence, so with that in mind why wouldnt they put they are female on their profile?

she put she was a post op TS on her profile so shes dont bugger all wrong, its hardly a hardship loosing 3 mins of your life reading a profile to find out at the bottom shes not what your looking for

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By *ever been kissedMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

is everybody is missing the elephant in the room (or this thread)....

supressed sexual emotions to the said subject by any chance...

ps. I'm being serious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"However I've never seen a pussy that's been created from a surgeon's scalpel. Do they look realistic? "

Well, I can't claim a wide experience, but as a woman who's quite happily had her tongue in at least four of them, I'd say that if you didn't know beforehand, then you probably wouldn't know the difference....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"yes, I agree totally and with all the other similar comments, if you read the entire profile it doesn't matter where it is placed. Depends if you're a people person or just concerned with getting your end away."

I don't think there's anything wrong in just getting your end away. People go dogging, clubs, meet today etc to do just that!

Also, as a straight woman I wouldn't have any interest in meeting a man that was once a woman, he would still be she to me regardless. Before people start jumping out of their prams, that's how I feel and I'm not going to pretend otherwise to please anyone.

I just don't see why the OP feels upset, all the information he needed to make a choice to meet was there...just not where he wanted it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i thought the whole point of swinging was to 'get your end away'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Re: Post/Pre Op TS or TV....

We have no problem with anyone....

Except in tolerable types who complain to TS/Tv people that they should state legally who they are now and who they might have been.

As for the Male point of you _iew, No you do not speak for me (Mark) so retract that! Your a narrow minded w$£k jockey!

Any Ts/Tv's who wish to be friends can contact us...

Although Jayne might only make you a cuppa and chat! LOL

Mark on behalf of Mark and Jayne

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

Having read the entire thread i am currently trying to work out which single piece of information i should put at the top of my profile. Perhaps that i don't accom. Perhaps that i don't meet couples. Perhaps that i'm not bi. Perhaps that i meet bi guys. All of these are deal breakers for some, but not for everyone. Why should i tailor my profile to the needs/demands of someone else when i am here for my own needs? Op i don't think you realise how petulent, demanding, bigoted and scared your post makes you sound. You have now put yourself on many block and no thank you lists and vastly reduced your pool of potential meets. No one on here has any obligation to tell others anything personal about themselves, they choose to. Many bi men don't tell most that they are bi due to fear of a backlash, and you just started a backlash against post op ts. I applaud you op! You have nailed your colours to the mast for all to see and for many to avoid. Keep up the good work introducing bigotry and a culture of shame to a site of openness and acceptance and diversity!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Having read the entire thread i am currently trying to work out which single piece of information i should put at the top of my profile. Perhaps that i don't accom. Perhaps that i don't meet couples. Perhaps that i'm not bi. Perhaps that i meet bi guys. "

Doesn't matter where you put it, they don't read it anyway. I have the fact I don't accommodate on my profile three times (admittedly, not at the top in flashing neon letters! ) and still get messages from guys who want to come to mine.

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site).

If you have no problem why wouldn't you want to meet? Why does this post sound so aggressive and angry? And you subsequent posts so defensive?

Me suspects that the gentleman doth protest too much..."

You know what? I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to say, for fear of getting into trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'M off to get 'TRANNY' tattooed on my forehead ....just to save any possible future confusion

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"I'M off to get 'TRANNY' tattooed on my forehead ....just to save any possible future confusion "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'M off to get 'TRANNY' tattooed on my forehead ....just to save any possible future confusion "

Aye and so ya should

Saves people reading profiles xx

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

and if I am honest, I don't get why people question the OP's sexuality and preferences.

the whole 'he protests too much' is plain daft.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The nuts and bolts of your opening gambit seem to be that you have an issue with the lady misrepresenting herself.

That she should make it clearer up top as not all of us fancy banging a tranny and we should be forewarned of the prospect.

Have you considered, that for the first time in years, she is now physically, psychologically, emotionally and legally the person she has always been.

Do you really think that the positioning of a few words on her profile are that significant in comparison ?

You mention you had an 'argument' - you have no valid argument, it is none of your business.

I was wondering though if you would cast your eye over my profile too - it's just crying out for some critical comment.

And besides, I could do with a good row !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had an arguement with a post op ts on another site. I made a comment that she should put that she is a post op ts at the top of her profile rather than at the bottom so people can clearly see it. Ive got no problem with ts but i dont want to meet one.

Maybe im in a minority but id think knowing someone is a post op ts as being quite important when choosing if to meet a woman(she was classed as a womnan on the site). "

How unfeeling you are. She is a woman, she is!!! She does not even have to say and all respect to her for stating it nevertheless.

She had the op because she is a woman who was born with the wrong appendage. Simple though it may seem, this is it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The nuts and bolts of your opening gambit seem to be that you have an issue with the lady misrepresenting herself.

That she should make it clearer up top as not all of us fancy banging a tranny and we should be forewarned of the prospect.

Have you considered, that for the first time in years, she is now physically, psychologically, emotionally and legally the person she has always been.

Do you really think that the positioning of a few words on her profile are that significant in comparison ?

You mention you had an 'argument' - you have no valid argument, it is none of your business.

I was wondering though if you would cast your eye over my profile too - it's just crying out for some critical comment.

And besides, I could do with a good row ! "

I think I love you. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having read the entire thread i am currently trying to work out which single piece of information i should put at the top of my profile. Perhaps that i don't accom. Perhaps that i don't meet couples. Perhaps that i'm not bi. Perhaps that i meet bi guys. All of these are deal breakers for some, but not for everyone. Why should i tailor my profile to the needs/demands of someone else when i am here for my own needs? Op i don't think you realise how petulent, demanding, bigoted and scared your post makes you sound. You have now put yourself on many block and no thank you lists and vastly reduced your pool of potential meets. No one on here has any obligation to tell others anything personal about themselves, they choose to. Many bi men don't tell most that they are bi due to fear of a backlash, and you just started a backlash against post op ts. I applaud you op! You have nailed your colours to the mast for all to see and for many to avoid. Keep up the good work introducing bigotry and a culture of shame to a site of openness and acceptance and diversity! "

and love you too. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

@be nice +1 on those last three postings

I think I love you aswell lol x

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

To the cod phychologists who are dishing out their wisdom; don't give up your day job!.

Let me clarify what i said; i said i think the line about you saying your a post op ts should be at the top of your profile so people dont miss it. I didnt make any other comments about ts's. She put the information on her profile, all i said was she should put it at the start - that is all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

she is a woman, that is the point and has no obligation to put anything anywhere, unless she wants to.

You were unfeeling to argue with her. I thinks she probably has enough to deal with in her life as it is. You could have just moved on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To the cod phychologists...

"

Do fishfingers have OCDs then?

Wolf

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"Having read the entire thread i am currently trying to work out which single piece of information i should put at the top of my profile. Perhaps that i don't accom. Perhaps that i don't meet couples. Perhaps that i'm not bi. Perhaps that i meet bi guys. All of these are deal breakers for some, but not for everyone. Why should i tailor my profile to the needs/demands of someone else when i am here for my own needs? Op i don't think you realise how petulent, demanding, bigoted and scared your post makes you sound. You have now put yourself on many block and no thank you lists and vastly reduced your pool of potential meets. No one on here has any obligation to tell others anything personal about themselves, they choose to. Many bi men don't tell most that they are bi due to fear of a backlash, and you just started a backlash against post op ts. I applaud you op! You have nailed your colours to the mast for all to see and for many to avoid. Keep up the good work introducing bigotry and a culture of shame to a site of openness and acceptance and diversity! "

Bigotry is a strong word. Fine you could accuse me of being naive, being stupid, not thinking, and not understanding, but as most people dont understand the legal issues surrounding ts's(me included), i do see how i could be knowing accused of being a bigot.

ps i did appologise to the ts for any offence i may have caused.

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


"she is a woman, that is the point and has no obligation to put anything anywhere, unless she wants to.

You were unfeeling to argue with her. I thinks she probably has enough to deal with in her life as it is. You could have just moved on."

The arguement was not over that so much, but other people saying should she put a star of david on her(anyone with a knowledge of jews would know about that). Look i see it was a stupid thing to say with hindsight but to compare a comment about where people put things on their profile, with jews being persceuted by Nazis is just wrong.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"To the cod phychologists who are dishing out their wisdom; don't give up your day job!.

Let me clarify what i said; i said i think the line about you saying your a post op ts should be at the top of your profile so people dont miss it. I didnt make any other comments about ts's. She put the information on her profile, all i said was she should put it at the start - that is all.

"

I still think that if 30 seconds of your time is too much for anyone to find the information at the bottom of the profile rather than just the stuff at the top.... then that says a lot more about them than it does about her......

if she had hidden it, it would be a different matter... but she was honest... and now she is being criticised for that honesty....

what message do you think that is sending out to others?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that a post op ts has the right to call herself a woman, I also agree that she can put the statement that she is post op anywhere on her profile that she likes but she should also bear in mind that the majority of men do not read an entire profile (which I think we all agree is stupid lol) but as for not mentioning it at all, as some have pointed out is her right, I think is wrong, I speak from first hand knowledge of this, 2 years ago my friends brother who was on another site and very straight, unknowingly had a meet with a post op ts, nothing was mentioned on her profile that she was, he subsequently found out about a month later and after a few weeks of mental anguish attempted suicide, he now resides in an institution as he is regarded as a danger to himself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that a post op ts has the right to call herself a woman, I also agree that she can put the statement that she is post op anywhere on her profile that she likes but she should also bear in mind that the majority of men do not read an entire profile (which I think we all agree is stupid lol) but as for not mentioning it at all, as some have pointed out is her right, I think is wrong, I speak from first hand knowledge of this, 2 years ago my friends brother who was on another site and very straight, unknowingly had a meet with a post op ts, nothing was mentioned on her profile that she was, he subsequently found out about a month later and after a few weeks of mental anguish attempted suicide, he now resides in an institution as he is regarded as a danger to himself"

Isn't that not more to do with your friends brother's own attitude to his sexuality and sex than anything to do with the T/S though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"she is a woman, that is the point and has no obligation to put anything anywhere, unless she wants to.

You were unfeeling to argue with her. I thinks she probably has enough to deal with in her life as it is. You could have just moved on.

The arguement was not over that so much, but other people saying should she put a star of david on her(anyone with a knowledge of jews would know about that). Look i see it was a stupid thing to say with hindsight but to compare a comment about where people put things on their profile, with jews being persceuted by Nazis is just wrong. "

You have remained polite and explained yourself. Nobody can ask more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree that a post op ts has the right to call herself a woman, I also agree that she can put the statement that she is post op anywhere on her profile that she likes but she should also bear in mind that the majority of men do not read an entire profile (which I think we all agree is stupid lol) but as for not mentioning it at all, as some have pointed out is her right, I think is wrong, I speak from first hand knowledge of this, 2 years ago my friends brother who was on another site and very straight, unknowingly had a meet with a post op ts, nothing was mentioned on her profile that she was, he subsequently found out about a month later and after a few weeks of mental anguish attempted suicide, he now resides in an institution as he is regarded as a danger to himself

Isn't that not more to do with your friends brother's own attitude to his sexuality and sex than anything to do with the T/S though? "

That was my thought.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

I think people must be pretty damn stupid to meet someone without reading their profile properly. There good be anything in there that the other person doesnt like/isnt into.

But if your not going to read a profile then what do you expect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well it was on the profile ..... and maybe at the end to make sure people do read it . As most just look at the pics here . And the OP would know if people had or had not read i am sure from the mail .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think people must be pretty damn stupid to meet someone without reading their profile properly. There good be anything in there that the other person doesnt like/isnt into.

But if your not going to read a profile then what do you expect"

My thoughts precisely!

I read profiles thoroughly before:

1) Sending an initial message

2) Replying to an initial message

3) Just before meeting them (to refresh my memory)

I have therefore given myself enough opurtunity to make sure they are the right people for us. If I haven't spotted something I don't/won't like thats included in the text, then the blame can only rest on my shoulders.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn


"I think people must be pretty damn stupid to meet someone without reading their profile properly. There good be anything in there that the other person doesnt like/isnt into.

But if your not going to read a profile then what do you expect

My thoughts precisely!

I read profiles thoroughly before:

1) Sending an initial message

2) Replying to an initial message

3) Just before meeting them (to refresh my memory)

I have therefore given myself enough opurtunity to make sure they are the right people for us. If I haven't spotted something I don't/won't like thats included in the text, then the blame can only rest on my shoulders."

+1

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By *erendipityWoman
over a year ago

Hertfordshire


" Let me clarify what i said; i said i think the line about you saying your a post op ts should be at the top of your profile so people dont miss it. I didnt make any other comments about ts's. She put the information on her profile, all i said was she should put it at the start - that is all.

"

I think you're missing the point somewhat. The issue here is why, when you had read her profile and saw that she was something you didn't want, did you then feel the need to message her any your opinion at all? She provided the info, you made a decision, the profile info did its job.

Perhaps you could try to see it from her point of _iew?

Some random bloke she doesn't know contacts her out of the blue (on a site where it wouldn't be unrealistic to expect attitudes of greater acceptance), to state "I'm not into post op TS women and even though I saw your post op status on your profile, I just had to PM you to tell you that you should make an even bigger deal about it on your profile because other men might not want to meet you either". Do you think she may have felt that was not a helpful or caring message but that it was:

- rude or none of your business

- a pointless criticism

- an uninvited attack

- a reminder of the fact that she may well have spent many years having to justify her feelings and choices to family, friends, colleagues and strangers already.

Just a thought

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone


" Let me clarify what i said; i said i think the line about you saying your a post op ts should be at the top of your profile so people dont miss it. I didnt make any other comments about ts's. She put the information on her profile, all i said was she should put it at the start - that is all.

I think you're missing the point somewhat. The issue here is why, when you had read her profile and saw that she was something you didn't want, did you then feel the need to message her any your opinion at all? She provided the info, you made a decision, the profile info did its job.

Perhaps you could try to see it from her point of _iew?

Some random bloke she doesn't know contacts her out of the blue (on a site where it wouldn't be unrealistic to expect attitudes of greater acceptance), to state "I'm not into post op TS women and even though I saw your post op status on your profile, I just had to PM you to tell you that you should make an even bigger deal about it on your profile because other men might not want to meet you either". Do you think she may have felt that was not a helpful or caring message but that it was:

- rude or none of your business

- a pointless criticism

- an uninvited attack

- a reminder of the fact that she may well have spent many years having to justify her feelings and choices to family, friends, colleagues and strangers already.

Just a thought "

Here's a thought, why dont you actually read what i have put in my various posts above; I simply said the line (she put herself) about being a post op ts should be put at the begigning of her profile. This was in an open chatroom for anyone to read. At no time did i pm her or message her direct. And the name of the chatroom was something along the lines of women looking for men.

Fine dont agree with what ive said, but dont embellish what ive actually said and make me out to be some sort of anti ts hater. And dont think you have got the right to use quote marks that im assuming you attribute to me, when ive not used those words!.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I think it is worse that you felt it appropriate to do what you did in a public chat room rather than doing it in private...

she didn't ask for a profile critique but got one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think it is worse that you felt it appropriate to do what you did in a public chat room rather than doing it in private...

she didn't ask for a profile critique but got one."

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By *UNCHBOX OP   Man
over a year ago

folkestone

Can we draw a line under this thread now - i made a mistake in saying what i did, it was an error of judgement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she had a profile on here the first word after her header would say 'Woman'.

And legally(Yes,legally) that's what she is.A woman.

She was honest enough in her profile to mention that she was post op but the only problem seems to be that she stated it in the wrong place in her profile for YOU,It sounds from your earlier posts that you've spent some time in the chat room,either chatting or looking at a cam and when you've finally got round to reading the whole profile something has caused you to become morally outraged.

Maybe you should spend a little less time window shopping and read the small print

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"Can we draw a line under this thread now - i made a mistake in saying what i did, it was an error of judgement. "

of course.

good luck for the future and lots of fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can we draw a line under this thread now - i made a mistake in saying what i did, it was an error of judgement. "

Been reading this but not said anything but now I will , well done you IMO its a bigger person that can admit a mistake and apologise in public so to speak.

Hope you enjoy site and have lots of fun .

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By *ornyAndHung4FunMan
over a year ago

Lisburn

So basically your problem is, you reaf her whole profile only to find out at the end that SHE Is a post op ts?

No offence mate, but thats why people bother to write profiles, so people read them. The girl stated in her profile that she was a post op ts, so i see no problem. That is maybe a hard thing for her to publically acknowledge or declare.

Maybe you should clearly write on the top if your profile how narrow minded you are, or how you throw tantrums when you read peoples profiles only to discover their not your cup of tea.

In all fairness, YOU decided to click on her profile. I look at peoples profiles all the time, sometimes i like, sometimes i dont. But all the time i read the whole profile, and respect their wishes regards to race, age, gender or sexuality.

Why like 99% of the population could you not simply close her profile page and move on? Why feel the need to start a thread basically based on your on personal insecurites?

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

You would think that this site is all about emotional relationships.....have I missed something along the way.....My attraction to the site is no strings sex.

Ive had sex with a post op and it was great and tight.

She also knew how a cock needs to be handled...obviously from memory..

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Can we draw a line under this thread now - i made a mistake in saying what i did, it was an error of judgement. "
We all make mistakes, but not all of us have the humility to admit them. Well done _unchbox. Btw since you met the ts on another site have you issued an invite to join fab? Cos shes already got lots of friends here...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can we draw a line under this thread now - i made a mistake in saying what i did, it was an error of judgement. "
I am glad you could see for yourself it was a mistake ... And mail the person as it would be nice .

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