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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people." Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place...." Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring. | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring." Have you ever worked in a restaurant? | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x" The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business " You need to start laughing some of them off and siding with the manager. Very few times it it go above HR. You'd get told to fuck off in most works if that was someone's complaint. Maybe get the manager to try and word it a bit better tho x | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business " You've clearly got someone there with no initiative. | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring. Have you ever worked in a restaurant?" I have. Just because it's the "norm" in the hospitality industry, doesn't mean it's right. I have worked in bars where staff are treated well and they give their all. I've worked in pubs where staff are treated badly and there is a continual churn of staff. I worked for two pubs in Nottingham, both for the same brewery. I worked at the first one for a year before it closed for refurbishment. I then started working at another pub a couple of months later. The bar supervisor from the first pub had transferred there temporarily while the refurb was carried out. He said that he didn't think I'd last six months in the job, not because I was a lazy worker, but because of poor management. I lasted 4. | |||
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"I work with people from 16 to 70. There's no specific age that I would say is better or more dedicated than another. Some of the most workshy are the older ones, they have it down to a fine art. " Exactly. I certainly don't see much difference based on age alone. At least the young ones are cheap, it's the useless, expensive ones that piss me off the most. | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business " It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right? | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x" I teach my kids to stick it to the man. We sing 'rage against the machine' as a family on the school run. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you?" I am glad I do not work for your organisation. It seems being shitty towards people is part of your culture. | |||
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"A couple of extreme examples don’t represent the whole " No they don't. A close relative is in the hospitality industry and has regularly been working 60/70 hours a week from a very young age. It right gets on my nerves when people lump a whole generation together and say they're not prepared to work. | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right?" Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you?" Sound like legitimate complaints to to me. | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x I teach my kids to stick it to the man. We sing 'rage against the machine' as a family on the school run. " Oh don't think for a minute I don't do that either lol x | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x I teach my kids to stick it to the man. We sing 'rage against the machine' as a family on the school run. "  | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right? Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask" I don't know how dusty the room was,I wasn't there. Were you? Good luck to the firm that ends up being sued over H+S breaches when they refuse to supply PPE,though. | |||
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" Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask" The organisation doesn't have a cleaner, by the sounds of it. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is..." Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make" Why? | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why?" Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer" Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. " Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. " Of course they change, but that's not a bad thing. If it wasn't for generations attitudes changing then women would still be stuck at home, offices would be rife with misconduct and building sites would be dangerous as hell | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people." You are wrong, there's a definable mood to each generation. There are books about this stuff. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Of course they change, but that's not a bad thing. If it wasn't for generations attitudes changing then women would still be stuck at home, offices would be rife with misconduct and building sites would be dangerous as hell" Every pro has a con....and there's always a tipping point when too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. We also wouldn't have "democracy" under the thumb of social media or a culture of litigation. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people. You are wrong, there's a definable mood to each generation. There are books about this stuff. " There are books about flat earth... | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people." Yes, it's called juvenoia. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people. Yes, it's called juvenoia. " There's that for sure but are telling me with a straight face that generations don't differ in outlook or values based on the conditions they grew up? | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people. Yes, it's called juvenoia. There's that for sure but are telling me with a straight face that generations don't differ in outlook or values based on the conditions they grew up? " I'm going to try and phrase your point with something I could agree with: There exists an objective spectrum of attitudes and cultures, the proportion of people agreeing with various points or ranges along the spectrum can be seen to change if you choose to segment the data by age. However, there are a whole host of other variables i could slice the data with and show the same trend. I definately don't think the younger generation are objectivly lazier and other trends go in the exact opposite that people think they do (e.g. teenage pregnancy is lower now than 20 years ago, not higher) | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Anyone that jumps to the bullshit 'snowflake' arguement instantly invidates any point that they make Why? Because, suprisingly, tarring an entire generation with the same brush makes for pretty false claims. Its like me saying the recession was caused by every single baby boomer Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. Generations attitudes don’t cycle. The only thing that changes is your own perspective as you get older and develop as disdain for younger people. Yes, it's called juvenoia. There's that for sure but are telling me with a straight face that generations don't differ in outlook or values based on the conditions they grew up? I'm going to try and phrase your point with something I could agree with: There exists an objective spectrum of attitudes and cultures, the proportion of people agreeing with various points or ranges along the spectrum can be seen to change if you choose to segment the data by age. However, there are a whole host of other variables i could slice the data with and show the same trend. I definately don't think the younger generation are objectivly lazier and other trends go in the exact opposite that people think they do (e.g. teenage pregnancy is lower now than 20 years ago, not higher) " So we agree  | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right? Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask" What's in the dust? | |||
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" Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. " "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates (469–399 B.C.)  | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right? Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask What's in the dust?" No calories according to marjorie dawes | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business " Sounds like you need to speak to the cleaner. | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right? Come off it, it's a bit of dust. You don't need a face mask What's in the dust? No calories according to marjorie dawes " Never watched Little Britain. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you?" the person isnt a manager or should be in people management | |||
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"So I'm probably in the upper end of this 'snowflake generation'. Personally, I do not see a lot of people who get into jobs and are overly sensitive. I see a lot of people who go to work, are stretched thin with resources and are then told to do more. Eventually they get fed up and raise the issue in a grown up manner to their manager or union rep. Id say if anyone believes that criticising your manager constructively, or how the company/organisation is operating is evidence of someone being 'soft', I suggest you ask yourself how society advances. It's by people raising and showing there are problems, and when these are extensive enough people work to minimise them. As for, 'she cried cause the boss had a go at her', or 'be abuse she was told to shorten her lunch break'. Do you know her personal situation at home, divorce, break up, financial hardships, they all make you more sensitive and try as we might it's hard to 'leave it at the door'." THIS! Unfortunately many companies are deliberately cutting staff to save money and the people already working their arses off are the ones to suffer. I take pride in my work, work with food and am at the point where most of the time I'm doing the jobs that would have been allocated to three people a couple of years ago. Some people will take the piss but this isn't just younger people. Having been a staff member, manager and a trade union rep trust me. Some of the hardest workers I've worked with have been people in their early 20s. This is a bit of a silly generalisation. Also, if managers are trying to make their staff stay back without notice it's wrong and it's evidence of poor planning of rotas. People should be asked not 'made'. In most work situations that's some really dodgy shit right there. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is..." Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,  | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world, "And where's your proof of this? | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world, "I see a generation who are coping admirably with the world they live in. I see youngsters working their butts off in places I'd hate to work, McDonalds, supermarkets on Sundays to name but two. The ones who aren't coping with the "real world" whatever that is are people like my very elderly parents who just can't understand the way things work nowadays. Tarring an entire generation with the same brush is wrong in my opinion and does the hard working younger generation a disservice. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
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That's not proof of anything."To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want  | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want "Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all? | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all? "Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state, | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state, "In what way fighting a losing battle? | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle? "Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong "Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70. I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily."It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike... | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike... "Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man! | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike... "Ah the halcyon days of lightning strikes. If a train driver was asked to finish his tea twenty seconds early none of us could get to work for a week. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man! "Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like... | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Ah the halcyon days of lightning strikes. If a train driver was asked to finish his tea twenty seconds early none of us could get to work for a week. "Indeed. Bosses had to tiptoe round workers much more carefully then when bullying a worker could mean an indefinite lots of production. These days all the worker does is send an email to HR and moan to their friends on Facebook. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man!
Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like... "The best thing about the 70s is that the 80s came after it. It's like a really crap father who had a really cool son. | |||
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" It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike... Ah the halcyon days of lightning strikes. If a train driver was asked to finish his tea twenty seconds early none of us could get to work for a week.
Indeed. Bosses had to tiptoe round workers much more carefully then when bullying a worker could mean an indefinite lots of production. These days all the worker does is send an email to HR and moan to their friends on Facebook. "I used to like a good old work to rule myself. You couldn't get a darn thing done. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man!
Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like...
The best thing about the 70s is that the 80s came after it. It's like a really crap father who had a really cool son. "The eighties were shit. You had George Michael and a ha, rather than the Clash and Jilted John. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man!
Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like...
The best thing about the 70s is that the 80s came after it. It's like a really crap father who had a really cool son.
The eighties were shit. You had George Michael and a ha, rather than the Clash and Jilted John. "Depeche Mode, Michael hee-hee Jackson, Hulk Hogan, Eurythmics, football hooligans, raves and if that's not good enough, it morphs into the 90's like a power ranger on crack and then we have the coolest decade there ever had been or ever will be. | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man!
Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like...
The best thing about the 70s is that the 80s came after it. It's like a really crap father who had a really cool son.
The eighties were shit. You had George Michael and a ha, rather than the Clash and Jilted John.
Depeche Mode, Michael hee-hee Jackson, Hulk Hogan, Eurythmics, football hooligans, raves and if that's not good enough, it morphs into the 90's like a power ranger on crack and then we have the coolest decade there ever had been or ever will be. "As someone who experienced all three decades when you didn't, I obviously win... | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want
Don't you see any positives in the younger generation at all?
Yes of corse there are lots of young people who have done there best in life, but at the moment they seem to be fighting a losing battle with the self entitled, fuled by the nanny state,
In what way fighting a losing battle?
Because they are the ones who end up thinking they are being bullied at work because no one has been allowed to tell them that they are wrong
Ok. Well my experience is that very few people who have been bullied at work report it. However I do agree that some people claim to others that they're bullied when in fact they're just being given reasonable requests. I work with a woman like that and she's 70.
I can't agree that we have a whole generation up and coming who are unable to work effectively or without expecting special treatment. I see evidence to the contrary daily.
It always makes me smile when people talk about workers today today expecting special treatment and it wasn't like that in our day etc etc
You and I remember the seventies, when a cross word from a boss would see the whole workforce walk out on strike...
Thought you would have said the 70's was the last golden age when workers had a chance against the man!
Personally, I loved the seventies. Go carts, choppers, Tony Currie, the Sex Pistols, power cuts, sideburns, what's not to like...
The best thing about the 70s is that the 80s came after it. It's like a really crap father who had a really cool son.
The eighties were shit. You had George Michael and a ha, rather than the Clash and Jilted John.
Depeche Mode, Michael hee-hee Jackson, Hulk Hogan, Eurythmics, football hooligans, raves and if that's not good enough, it morphs into the 90's like a power ranger on crack and then we have the coolest decade there ever had been or ever will be.
As someone who experienced all three decades when you didn't, I obviously win... "I experienced the two i want to. I keep the 80's and 90's alive in our house with my music, retro games and hooliganism | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring. Have you ever worked in a restaurant?" I've owned them yes...why? | |||
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Employees have to stand up for themselves but u have to do it in the right way or else you will be let go, personal experience on that one | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring. Have you ever worked in a restaurant? I've owned them yes...why?" I’ve worked at 4 and shouting in the kitchen during the dinner rush was the norm.... | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm...." I suggest that your HR department has a review of its interview process. Eye rolling and shoulder shrugging, being on your phone in working hours are not acceptable in the work place. Where are they getting these people? I have no problem with work tasks being repeated back to me, it shows they've heard what I've said but I've never encountered eye rolling and shrugging (to my face). Something sounds quite wrong within your organisation. There aren't many that would tolerate the behaviour you describe. As for anonymous complaints, most HR policy requires that for a complaint to be acted on the complainant must identify themselves even if their identity is kept from the person the complaint is about. If a formal disciplinary procedure is to be carried out witness statements would be required. It might be different where you are of course. | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm...." That sounds like an issue with the recruitment process. | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm...." Think the problem may be something to do with the following sentence: “She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order....” Who, in the workplace, can reasonably expect to “give orders”? Sounds like she’s your problem mate. | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm.... Think the problem may be something to do with the following sentence: “She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order....” Who, in the workplace, can reasonably expect to “give orders”? Sounds like she’s your problem mate." I see things a little different... We have deadlines to make.. I don’t care how we get our deadlines met... I just want the job done... My managers are the backbone of our business... I tend to side with them because they have proven themselves over the years... The new hires not so much... Btw I work in finance we don’t recruit, they come to us.... starting salary is 150k plus bonus | |||
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"Btw I work in finance we don’t recruit, they come to us.... starting salary is 150k plus bonus " Is that a typo? You are recruiting at £150k? | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm.... Think the problem may be something to do with the following sentence: “She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order....” Who, in the workplace, can reasonably expect to “give orders”? Sounds like she’s your problem mate. I see things a little different... We have deadlines to make.. I don’t care how we get our deadlines met... I just want the job done... My managers are the backbone of our business... I tend to side with them because they have proven themselves over the years... The new hires not so much... Btw I work in finance we don’t recruit, they come to us.... starting salary is 150k plus bonus " Then you do have a problem. If that's all that's available for 150k you do have a problem. | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm.... Think the problem may be something to do with the following sentence: “She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order....” Who, in the workplace, can reasonably expect to “give orders”? Sounds like she’s your problem mate. I see things a little different... We have deadlines to make.. I don’t care how we get our deadlines met... I just want the job done... My managers are the backbone of our business... I tend to side with them because they have proven themselves over the years... The new hires not so much... Btw I work in finance we don’t recruit, they come to us.... starting salary is 150k plus bonus " The last job I had (admittedly it was only a mere £18k job in accounts) everyone apart from me had their phone on their desk all day every day - apart from me. My phone is on silent and in my bag. I'll check it throughout the day (twice in the morning, once in the afternoon) but it doesn't go on my desk. However, I don't have children unlike most of the others so had no need to be on my phone during the day. It is possible that you need to bring in a personal phone use policy - wifi and mobile internet needs to be turned off, incoming calls only. The rest sounds like it's a problem with the manager. It doesn't sound like you are being unbiased if you are automatically siding with the manager. HR complaints surely should be impartial, so that both side know they are going to be treated fairly. | |||
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"I just spoke to the manager informally and asked what’s the problem with these employees...... He number #1 complaint.... They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... When she gives them a order , they always repeat it to her word for word.. She has to repeatedly teach them how to do things weekly...... This manager has been with the corporation longer than I have... She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order.... She doesn’t yell , she just corrects behavior by telling the employee the truth.... She suggested we hire more staff for HR because anonymous complaining is now the norm.... Think the problem may be something to do with the following sentence: “She has explicitly told me she does not like the eye rolling and shoulder shrugs when she gives an order....” Who, in the workplace, can reasonably expect to “give orders”? Sounds like she’s your problem mate. I see things a little different... We have deadlines to make.. I don’t care how we get our deadlines met... I just want the job done... My managers are the backbone of our business... I tend to side with them because they have proven themselves over the years... The new hires not so much... Btw I work in finance we don’t recruit, they come to us.... starting salary is 150k plus bonus " And unless you are dragging people in off the street, someone is recruiting - even if that's an recruitment agency/headhunter. | |||
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"Interesting views. I've always thought that you should strive to be the hardest worker in the room. If you do that, you'll get further than most people. People just starting their working life haven't had time to learn what they need to. It will come tho, they just need a chance " It takes a while to adjust from 17 years of a can't-fail-education system that dished out participation medals. | |||
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" Have you ever worked in a restaurant?" Yes!! Had nearly forgotten about those days and back then also had the occasional boss who'd lose the plot, yelling and cursing at staff. Problem is, if you tell them they're out of line (which they really are), you're easily replaced. So keep an eye out for another job and keep the honour to yourself to walk out of there at the earliest opportunity x | |||
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".They’re constantly on their phones during working hours.... Day off today was it? "I like you.... very cheeky | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there." Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... " There is more to life than money. | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring. Have you ever worked in a restaurant? I've owned them yes...why? I’ve worked at 4 and shouting in the kitchen during the dinner rush was the norm...." To be heard in a busy kitchen yes...shouting at someone is a different thing. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... There is more to life than money." Have you experienced life with an abundance of money? | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... " If this is so why on earth are these people who clearly don't want to work as hard as the rest of you still employed? I'm genuinely not understanding why your organisation keeps them on. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... " Does sleep deprivation aid your workers productivity or is it just a case of the abused becoming the abuser? Ps; I know the answer, my mate works at Barclays. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... There is more to life than money. Have you experienced life with an abundance of money? " Never. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... There is more to life than money. Have you experienced life with an abundance of money? " No. I do, however, believe in a work/life balance. I wouldn't want to work somewhere which meant I had no life, even if I got paid a ridiculous amount of money to do so. | |||
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"I’m late to this thread and I think this is a problem with change. There was uproar when we couldn’t send children up chimneys anymore... 100 years on we think differently. There was uproar when women entered the workplace... 70 years on we think differently. So we can’t treat people like shit at work now... and somehow a new generation that’s been brought up in a line of tolerance and discussing issues is seen as “wrong”. I was brought up in a strict household, told off, even smacked at rare occasions. I still wouldn’t dream of expecting someone to work late without warning, I manage a team of 20 and I expect them to get home at night and have lives. I have a problem sometimes of them working till 9pm when I don’t expect them to. I don’t believe it’s a “snowflake” generation, I believe it’s a culture change where we should be teaching people in better, more constructive ways. " I agree. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... There is more to life than money. Have you experienced life with an abundance of money? No. I do, however, believe in a work/life balance. I wouldn't want to work somewhere which meant I had no life, even if I got paid a ridiculous amount of money to do so." I agree to the extent that earning £150k doesn't grant you many more options than earning £80k a year. I don't know how people survive on less than £25k a year outside the north where you can buy a house for the price of a pint in London. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... There is more to life than money. Have you experienced life with an abundance of money? No. I do, however, believe in a work/life balance. I wouldn't want to work somewhere which meant I had no life, even if I got paid a ridiculous amount of money to do so. I agree to the extent that earning £150k doesn't grant you many more options than earning £80k a year. I don't know how people survive on less than £25k a year outside the north where you can buy a house for the price of a pint in London. " I earn less than £25k a year. | |||
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"Interesting views. I've always thought that you should strive to be the hardest worker in the room. If you do that, you'll get further than most people. People just starting their working life haven't had time to learn what they need to. It will come tho, they just need a chance It takes a while to adjust from 17 years of a can't-fail-education system that dished out participation medals. " So you believe in cause and effect again? Be careful of denigrating the youth  | |||
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"Interesting views. I've always thought that you should strive to be the hardest worker in the room. If you do that, you'll get further than most people. People just starting their working life haven't had time to learn what they need to. It will come tho, they just need a chance It takes a while to adjust from 17 years of a can't-fail-education system that dished out participation medals. So you believe in cause and effect again? Be careful of denigrating the youth "Jeez, don't blame the youth for the idiotic education system they get put through! They didn't design it. | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... If this is so why on earth are these people who clearly don't want to work as hard as the rest of you still employed? I'm genuinely not understanding why your organisation keeps them on." We are a global corporation..... These new hires agree to these terms when hired... then complain later on... I must add this a small percentage of the work force.... I’m just talking about the people in my office... | |||
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"It's really funny that every previous generation seems to think they have a monopoly on hard work. "it was harder in my day..." "we didn't have iphones in my day and we got on just fine..." "I can do my job just fine, why can't you?" says the person with 15 years experience to the newbie. OP's company doesn't sound like a nice place to work. Actually, it sounds rather horrible. The problem seems to be stemming from managers 'ordering' people about and shouting. Either way, glad I don't work there. Reading your post reminds me of something my father said to me...... He said “ Rudeboycane, hardwork never killed anyone. But you’re not taking any chances “ We are bankers and our training program is the most intense job you will ever have. You will have no life for the first 2 years but if you survive.. you will make 500k minimum for the rest of your life.... I work everyday from 1pm to 5am.... Your comment shows me why retiring in 5 years is a great decision..... If this is so why on earth are these people who clearly don't want to work as hard as the rest of you still employed? I'm genuinely not understanding why your organisation keeps them on. We are a global corporation..... These new hires agree to these terms when hired... then complain later on... I must add this a small percentage of the work force.... I’m just talking about the people in my office... " I see. Wherever I've worked we have a contract. If either the employer or employee breaks the terms of the contract various actions can be taken. Eg the employee takes the employer to a tribunal or the employee gets sacked. The manager on your office could invoke the terms of the contract surely. you're in the States aren't you? Is employment law very different? | |||
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"In my opinion and experience i have found that many just want to be paid. The idea of having to work and literally earn the paycheck appears to be an alien concept to many. Not all but many" I've noticed this most in older generations. Especially those close to retirement. | |||
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"In my opinion and experience i have found that many just want to be paid. The idea of having to work and literally earn the paycheck appears to be an alien concept to many. Not all but many" I wouldn't say many but a sizeable minority I work short contracts and people ask me to return because I work hard and I'm flexible ie I'll do what's asked of me within reason. They frequently seem surprised by my attitude to work. I think expectations are low, whether that's because they're realistic or they have a false impression due to constantly being told "nobody wants to work nowadays" | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you?" Respect fosters respect and the more senior the person needs to start first. That's true management. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Respect fosters respect and the more senior the person needs to start first. That's true management. " Agreed.... but it can be frustrating for management to have constantly repeat themselves.... | |||
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"Interesting views. I've always thought that you should strive to be the hardest worker in the room. If you do that, you'll get further than most people. People just starting their working life haven't had time to learn what they need to. It will come tho, they just need a chance It takes a while to adjust from 17 years of a can't-fail-education system that dished out participation medals. So you believe in cause and effect again? Be careful of denigrating the youth
Jeez, don't blame the youth for the idiotic education system they get put through! They didn't design it. "I was ribbing you...and how you were joining the chorus to make me look juvenaphobic. I was just having the gall to attach a collective style of general upbringing to a collective general outlook. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Respect fosters respect and the more senior the person needs to start first. That's true management. Agreed.... but it can be frustrating for management to have constantly repeat themselves...." Then it's still the managers fault as people take information in differently. You need to understand your people individually then communicate in their style of learning.  | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business " A face mask??
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" Yes but generations and their attitudes do differ and it's generally cyclical. "The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates (469–399 B.C.) "Love this! Sums it all up really | |||
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"We get a lot of the "youth of today" in my place of work , who simply dont know how to do basic tasks Its like they have been shut in a cupboard all their life ... then suddenly let out ." Early in my career I worked with a younger guy who asked me "which side of the envelope do I stick the stamp?" and "how do I write a cheque", he told me he'd read a book once. This wouldn't have been the late 70s. Nothing changes. | |||
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"I've brought my children up to respect authority and things like the importance of timekeeping and going to school even though you don't feel 100% and don't talk back to adults. Their dad is also a manager so they see the...if the workers do their job the company benefits side of things too. I see some kids talking back to their teachers and bosses and shake my head. It wouldn't have happened in their parents day and still wouldn't happen in my house. It really is a different generation. One that I don't like x The problem we are having is HR takes every complaint seriously..... So on top of doing our work we have to address these problems.... A new employee was told to go into the file room to retrieve some documents to be scanned.... she sat outside the file room for 1 hour on her phone and when her manager asked why.... She said the room is dusty and she was waiting for a face mask.... The manager said to her “ With your attitude you will not last long here “ She started crying and made a complaint to HR... Now I have to take time out of my day to have a meeting to resolve this complaint... This is not good for business It is a requirement for all employers to provide their employees with all PPE necessary to do their job safely. You already knew that,right?" Employers only need to provide PPE that is reasonably practicable after carrying out a suitable risk assessment. Did the employee request a face mask, did she lose the use of her legs so she couldn't go and fetch one herself? Was a face mask really justified? Just because an employee wants something, it doesn't mean the employer is statutorily obliged to provide it. Dust is a part of everyday life; I'm surprised she didn't request a hazmat suit! | |||
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"I think the responses tell you the problem. Everyone thinks they're a boss these days, no one accepts they have to do what they're told, it's all my rights this and that." I accept that I have to do as I'm told. However, there are better ways. Asking is much better than shouting orders. | |||
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" I accept that I have to do as I'm told. However, there are better ways. Asking is much better than shouting orders." Iam so glad you have finally accepted that you have to do as your told... In which case take all your clothes of and get yourself over here. Just asking not shouting.. | |||
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"I work with people from 16 to 70. There's no specific age that I would say is better or more dedicated than another. Some of the most workshy are the older ones, they have it down to a fine art. " | |||
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"Entitlement generation of special snowflakes, and we made it what it is... Totally agree the nanny state has made a generation who cannot cope with the real world,
And where's your proof of this?
The op first post of them all complaining that they didn't get a medal for turning up for work
That's not proof of anything.
To put it bluntly, there are more suisides, people self harming and people needing counselling than ever before, why the other half of the generation are running around stabbing each other every day. So yes I think there is something going wrong, at both ends of the scale they seem to feel entitled to have what they want "You realise that the people most at "risk" of suicide are men between the ages of 44-49, so not sure where your argument of a nanny state making the younger generation unable to cope with the real world comes into it. A generation that don't talk, hide their feelings to the point they can't cope and think it's their only option because of people like you who think people talking about their feelings is ridiculous, is more like it. So if the younger generation are talking about their feelings it's not a bad thing. There are also more people in the world. Bullying is actually worse than it was years ago because you have people who hide behind their screens to attack others. | |||
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" I accept that I have to do as I'm told. However, there are better ways. Asking is much better than shouting orders. Iam so glad you have finally accepted that you have to do as your told... In which case take all your clothes of and get yourself over here. Just asking not shouting.. "In a work environment. | |||
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"In my opinion and experience i have found that many just want to be paid. The idea of having to work and literally earn the paycheck appears to be an alien concept to many. Not all but many" I found this a lot in aviation. Loads of younger people who are not into hard work, used to do a bad job so that wouldn't get asked to do it again. That usually failed to get the outcome they expected. Also they questioned why me and some of the old hands took pride in our work, when we told them it reflected good on us when we did. The usual response was fuck that, I don't like the job so I am not going to work hard at it. | |||
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"We weren’t put on this earth to work." Absolute bollocks. If our forebears hadn't gone out to work, killing the soil and hunting, we wouldn't be here now. | |||
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"I think the responses tell you the problem. Everyone thinks they're a boss these days, no one accepts they have to do what they're told, it's all my rights this and that. I accept that I have to do as I'm told. However, there are better ways. Asking is much better than shouting orders." I’m not sure how management is supposed to ask someone to do a task.... When you work in a high pressure environment with deadlines constantly moving... it’s kinda hard not to shout..... Accusations of bullying will start to be the norm very soon and I’m waiting for the day a parent comes to the workplace to confront the boss who yelled at their precious child.... | |||
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"I think the responses tell you the problem. Everyone thinks they're a boss these days, no one accepts they have to do what they're told, it's all my rights this and that. I accept that I have to do as I'm told. However, there are better ways. Asking is much better than shouting orders. I’m not sure how management is supposed to ask someone to do a task.... When you work in a high pressure environment with deadlines constantly moving... it’s kinda hard not to shout..... Accusations of bullying will start to be the norm very soon and I’m waiting for the day a parent comes to the workplace to confront the boss who yelled at their precious child...." It's actually quite easy. You don't raise your voice (shout) and you put please on the end of the request. I'm not sure why it's that difficult to understand. It really can't be that high pressure a job that a manager can ask someone on 150k to retrieve some files.  | |||
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""You look upset" "are you ok" "what's wrong" ....everything...stuck in an office with a bunch of 100 iq drones. Wake up early feeling like crap and still expected to smile. Then you must sit facing a megabitch lesbian with an attitude problem and a strong case for sociopathy....telling everyone her "feelings" and bragging... Yehhhh and I thought I would just be doing tasks! I've wished death on many colleagues. I hate being forced to humour these lonely pricks who dont have friends outside work. "Office politics" is sitting silently while a stupid ugly lesbian criticises you and tells you she's the most attractive "boy" (when she looks like very Simpson) You need an iq of 100 and not to be a deep thinker to do these kind of things." I certainly think that being a deep thinker is a disadvantage in a certain type of commonly found, large company. I had frequent bust ups with HR at a previous company because they always took the side of an emotional drama queen, who was rubbish at her job and went crying to them at every opportunity. I remember trying to explain to them that there was an objective standard of things that a reasonable person would get upset over. They told me that there was no objectivity and perception is reality! I just sighed and said "says the person running a loss making business". Needless to say I didn't last much longer there. | |||
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"I certainly think that being a deep thinker is a disadvantage in a certain type of commonly found, large company. I had frequent bust ups with HR at a previous company because they always took the side of an emotional drama queen, who was rubbish at her job and went crying to them at every opportunity. I remember trying to explain to them that there was an objective standard of things that a reasonable person would get upset over. They told me that there was no objectivity and perception is reality! I just sighed and said "says the person running a loss making business". Needless to say I didn't last much longer there. " I've been an office worker, caretaker and teacher. (Amoung others) Caretaker was relatively hassle free. Teaching and office work was a nightmare. My ambition has deteriorated now. I want to be a postman. I don't like teams. I don't like forced company. I bury how I feel unless it's on a forum or in a pub. I silently smile even though underneath I am distressed. My asperger is more like high functioning autism. I must not let people know I have a condition. I must spend my entire day acting. That's why drama queens piss me off. I could complain all day. The drama colleagues cause is trivial. I struggle simply going to sleep at night. I don't need to have it amplified by the megabitch. I'm a good worker but I'm the kind of guy who stairs into space and is bad at social communication. That's incredibly important at work. People take it for granted. Work isn't all about your inteligence and ability to perform tasks. Alot is based on social skills in climbing the ladder. Work makes me feel violated more than any bizzare sex scenario. I think nothing of some women degrading me for fun when I must endure metophorical office arse violation. I have a kind of post traumatic anxiety and get flashbacks to when my female manager violated me psychologicly in one of my first jobs in NHS. | |||
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"I certainly think that being a deep thinker is a disadvantage in a certain type of commonly found, large company. I had frequent bust ups with HR at a previous company because they always took the side of an emotional drama queen, who was rubbish at her job and went crying to them at every opportunity. I remember trying to explain to them that there was an objective standard of things that a reasonable person would get upset over. They told me that there was no objectivity and perception is reality! I just sighed and said "says the person running a loss making business". Needless to say I didn't last much longer there. I've been an office worker, caretaker and teacher. (Amoung others) Caretaker was relatively hassle free. Teaching and office work was a nightmare. My ambition has deteriorated now. I want to be a postman. I don't like teams. I don't like forced company. I bury how I feel unless it's on a forum or in a pub. I silently smile even though underneath I am distressed. My asperger is more like high functioning autism. I must not let people know I have a condition. I must spend my entire day acting. That's why drama queens piss me off. I could complain all day. The drama colleagues cause is trivial. I struggle simply going to sleep at night. I don't need to have it amplified by the megabitch. I'm a good worker but I'm the kind of guy who stairs into space and is bad at social communication. That's incredibly important at work. People take it for granted. Work isn't all about your inteligence and ability to perform tasks. Alot is based on social skills in climbing the ladder. Work makes me feel violated more than any bizzare sex scenario. I think nothing of some women degrading me for fun when I must endure metophorical office arse violation. I have a kind of post traumatic anxiety and get flashbacks to when my female manager violated me psychologicly in one of my first jobs in NHS." Most of the work culture you describe is common in large organisations. Join a small company and you can avoid a lot of these pitfalls. Socials skils definately don't trump ability in a small company. I also detest team work because I'm an unapologetic elitist. Team work is code for lesser people leeching off me under the pretense I need them for something. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you?" Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? " I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. " Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. " Exactly, everyone should be grateful for how good they have it. Brexit might just makes these things a reality for many. Then we'll have a different attitude with the next generation (I'm not saying this is good) and so the cycle continues as it has for centuries as nations rise and fall. @subseekingdomme...loving the stories of workplace angst. More please! | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. " I'm glad I live in this country, I appreciate what I have and don't take it for granted but who am I supposed to be grateful to? | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. I'm glad I live in this country, I appreciate what I have and don't take it for granted but who am I supposed to be grateful to? " I don't know what job you do or what opportunities you've been given. If you stack shelves at asda then perhaps nobody. For me, I'm very grateful that i got to work on certain projects at certain times because i wasn't simply the best person for the job on paper (although i did a great job after). That enabled me to do a job where i actually use my brain. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. I'm glad I live in this country, I appreciate what I have and don't take it for granted but who am I supposed to be grateful to? I don't know what job you do or what opportunities you've been given. If you stack shelves at asda then perhaps nobody. For me, I'm very grateful that i got to work on certain projects at certain times because i wasn't simply the best person for the job on paper (although i did a great job after). That enabled me to do a job where i actually use my brain." I have stacked shelves but not in Asda. My particular talent was recognised despite me not having the appropriate qualifications and I was able to establish a half decent career pre children because of that. I appreciate that opportunity. I'm just not sure about the gratitude bit, is it to god, the universe, my employer? | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. I'm glad I live in this country, I appreciate what I have and don't take it for granted but who am I supposed to be grateful to? I don't know what job you do or what opportunities you've been given. If you stack shelves at asda then perhaps nobody. For me, I'm very grateful that i got to work on certain projects at certain times because i wasn't simply the best person for the job on paper (although i did a great job after). That enabled me to do a job where i actually use my brain. I have stacked shelves but not in Asda. My particular talent was recognised despite me not having the appropriate qualifications and I was able to establish a half decent career pre children because of that. I appreciate that opportunity. I'm just not sure about the gratitude bit, is it to god, the universe, my employer? " For me, every project had a project manager who chose to take me on when I was an unproven quality and nothing but a ball of potential. They could have gone with someone with a CV that had done it all before. I'm grateful to each of those individuals for making that choice and putting a but a faith in me. Do you not think Jamie Vardy is grateful to certain people at Leicester City for recruiting him from Fleetwood town? I take your point that lukaku doesn't really need to be grateful to anyone at Man Utd. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. I'm glad I live in this country, I appreciate what I have and don't take it for granted but who am I supposed to be grateful to? I don't know what job you do or what opportunities you've been given. If you stack shelves at asda then perhaps nobody. For me, I'm very grateful that i got to work on certain projects at certain times because i wasn't simply the best person for the job on paper (although i did a great job after). That enabled me to do a job where i actually use my brain. I have stacked shelves but not in Asda. My particular talent was recognised despite me not having the appropriate qualifications and I was able to establish a half decent career pre children because of that. I appreciate that opportunity. I'm just not sure about the gratitude bit, is it to god, the universe, my employer? For me, every project had a project manager who chose to take me on when I was an unproven quality and nothing but a ball of potential. They could have gone with someone with a CV that had done it all before. I'm grateful to each of those individuals for making that choice and putting a but a faith in me. Do you not think Jamie Vardy is grateful to certain people at Leicester City for recruiting him from Fleetwood town? I take your point that lukaku doesn't really need to be grateful to anyone at Man Utd. " Do you think the gratitude is mutual or is the payment enough? | |||
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" For me, every project had a project manager who chose to take me on when I was an unproven quality and nothing but a ball of potential. They could have gone with someone with a CV that had done it all before. I'm grateful to each of those individuals for making that choice and putting a but a faith in me. Do you not think Jamie Vardy is grateful to certain people at Leicester City for recruiting him from Fleetwood town? I take your point that lukaku doesn't really need to be grateful to anyone at Man Utd. Do you think the gratitude is mutual or is the payment enough? " Put it this way, now I am that project manager who does or doesn't dish out the opportunities. Generally, 2/3 of the young people you give opportunities to, are disappointing and 1/3 reward your faith. That's not a good enough ratio for me to dish out opportunities on a cold rational basis. So am I grateful they ran with the ball i gave them? Not really because i don't have any trouble finding people who can get the job done, I'm just trying to pay it forward a bit. We also have significant bonuses which i dish out nicely to the 1/3 as well. So they get more than just their pay for it, personally my biggest bonus was about 7% of my annual salary. I tend to dish out 20%. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. " Tbh if you are running any mid sized company upwards, you should be regularly (regular depending on demand and the labour size you require) trying to recruit someone with little experience. Old more experienced staff get a chance to mentor, and you might just get a long term employee out of it. The problem is of course what are you recruiting for, the more technical the role, the more likely you will have to recruit younger with less of a dependable track record. | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. Tbh if you are running any mid sized company upwards, you should be regularly (regular depending on demand and the labour size you require) trying to recruit someone with little experience. Old more experienced staff get a chance to mentor, and you might just get a long term employee out of it. The problem is of course what are you recruiting for, the more technical the role, the more likely you will have to recruit younger with less of a dependable track record." In 2008, a lot of people who planned to cash out their pension and retire - suddenly found they couldn't, so they stayed in work longer than planned. The next 10 years were economically speaking, shite, so companies have had less need for workers than they did 1998 - 2008. So let's assume you are young and can get recruited, which is still hard. It's still a matter of getting placed on high priority projects. I know so many graduates who now have 10 years work experience and do little more than glorified admin. Not because they don't want to be leading teams, making decisions and controlling budgets, but because the ladder is full at the top so nobody is moving up it. | |||
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"Sounds more like their boss is a knobhead and isn't cut out to manage people. Ok so the corporation should fire the boss and let the new hire run the place.... Shouting isn't managing, leading or inspiring." | |||
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"I’ve noticed the right out of college employees are having a hard time adjusting to being told the truth..... This stems from numerous complaints to HR about a managers talking to them sternly. These complaints are made by men and women so it’s not gender specific... This is becoming very time consuming because we have to address these issues before we can get any real work done... Examples of these complaints.... my boss yelled at me... I didn’t get my full hour for lunch ... I was made to work late without prior notice... My question to all the parents on this board... Did you not tell your children the world is not a nice place? Did you not tell your children that bosses will not be nice to you? Yes the millennial generation is a major issue and a lot think the world owes them because that's the way education and their parents have taught them. Not actually their fault in that sense. But it makes running a business tough. Or just employ older people as I've started doing. Get to grips with the job loads faster and aren't pathetically fragile. Also actually grateful for a decent job rather than expecting you to be grateful for getting them? I don't think anyone should be grateful for getting a job. It's a two way thing surely. You employ someone who can do the job and they do it. You get the job done they get the wages. Some jobs are a lot better than others. In the short term, it's always easier for us to give jobs to experienced, older people with a track record. But if we always did that, then there would never be a generation an experienced people when they retire. So we need to give young people the opportunity to develop those skills. But it's hardly a pure cost-benefit analysis, as the young people would lose that everytime. So yes, they should be grateful for the opportunity. Frankly, you should all be grateful to be living in such a rich country. Try living in eastern Europe where you need a masters degree just to get an entry level job. Tbh if you are running any mid sized company upwards, you should be regularly (regular depending on demand and the labour size you require) trying to recruit someone with little experience. Old more experienced staff get a chance to mentor, and you might just get a long term employee out of it. The problem is of course what are you recruiting for, the more technical the role, the more likely you will have to recruit younger with less of a dependable track record. In 2008, a lot of people who planned to cash out their pension and retire - suddenly found they couldn't, so they stayed in work longer than planned. The next 10 years were economically speaking, shite, so companies have had less need for workers than they did 1998 - 2008. So let's assume you are young and can get recruited, which is still hard. It's still a matter of getting placed on high priority projects. I know so many graduates who now have 10 years work experience and do little more than glorified admin. Not because they don't want to be leading teams, making decisions and controlling budgets, but because the ladder is full at the top so nobody is moving up it. " Yep, I know that feeling. That said, on the flip side you do need to retain some experienced staff with a vision to enable them to transfer skills and knowledge of their specific job roles if thatrole is specialised | |||
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