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"Let me get this right, I stand to be corrected.... Your a single guy and quite happy to take part in a threesome with a couple where you may indeed get a blow job or indeed get full sex with the other guys wife/girlfriend but IF you were in a relationship you would be mega green eyed???? Ho hum.............. double standards perhaps? Maybe swinging is not for you when you get in a relationship, but hey, it's ok while your single!!!! wtf!!!" Yup...another single guy using the site who isnt a swinger...it must be thursday And more proof to my theory that swinging isnt what you do ,but an attitude. OP...maybe its as simple as the fact that when you really care for someone,what makes them happy makes you happy. Sir is fond of a quote from CS lewis, "Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours." i think many swinging couples will recognise something that speaks to them. | |||
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"Let me get this right, I stand to be corrected.... Your a single guy and quite happy to take part in a threesome with a couple where you may indeed get a blow job or indeed get full sex with the other guys wife/girlfriend but IF you were in a relationship you would be mega green eyed???? Ho hum.............. double standards perhaps? Maybe swinging is not for you when you get in a relationship, but hey, it's ok while your single!!!! wtf!!! Yup...another single guy using the site who isnt a swinger...it must be thursday And more proof to my theory that swinging isnt what you do ,but an attitude. OP...maybe its as simple as the fact that when you really care for someone,what makes them happy makes you happy. Sir is fond of a quote from CS lewis, "Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours." i think many swinging couples will recognise something that speaks to them." here, here! | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" double standards from a single again, oh dear | |||
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"arrogant to not want a single guy who doesnt respect or understand us anywhere near me... Meh...i can live with that " No i dont understand what pleasure a guy can get out of sitting in a corner and watching his wife with another guy. I dont understand it at all which is why i have asked the question because i want to know? If this is your/hubbies thing and he asked "what makes it so horny being with my wife while i watch" then i woukd try to explain why and not get all prosumptious | |||
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"arrogant to not want a single guy who doesnt respect or understand us anywhere near me... Meh...i can live with that No i dont understand what pleasure a guy can get out of sitting in a corner and watching his wife with another guy. I dont understand it at all which is why i have asked the question because i want to know? If this is your/hubbies thing and he asked "what makes it so horny being with my wife while i watch" then i woukd try to explain why and not get all prosumptious" you chose to read what you want. they replied with this comment which you have not took on board "OP...maybe its as simple as the fact that when you really care for someone,what makes them happy makes you happy" it sums up the question you asked and wanted a reply to | |||
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"I think what the other posters are saying is this. Yes to ask questions how the husband/partner feels in those circumstances is fine. But to actually state you couldnt do it with your gf/wife because of jealous. Yet you partake with other peoples, well they are saying you dont understand the basics of swinging. Nothing arsey there " I love being with a guys wife. The fact she loves a younger, dom/bull guy and wants her husband to watch is what i like. As i am that guy i dont understand the hubby. Its just the same as a sub asking a dom what in it for them or vice versa? Im simply trying to understand from somebody elses point of _iew and i really do not see a problem with that. The poster who says "grow up" is all wrong. I am very mature and simply interested in the preferences of others. I appreciate it takes all sorts an thats a mature outlook not somebody who needs to grow up | |||
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"arrogant to not want a single guy who doesnt respect or understand us anywhere near me... Meh...i can live with that No i dont understand what pleasure a guy can get out of sitting in a corner and watching his wife with another guy. I dont understand it at all which is why i have asked the question because i want to know? If this is your/hubbies thing and he asked "what makes it so horny being with my wife while i watch" then i woukd try to explain why and not get all prosumptious" That isnt what u said tho,you said that with wifey you couldnt swing...so this is somewhere to get your end away until u settle down.Never mind what fantasies she might have. look at the quote Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours. If your relationship is based on the idea you have to "own" someone,that jealousy is acceptable and trust has conditions,then,in mine,and Mr lewis' _iew you wont understand a relationship where belonging is not about ownership . You say you have cuckolded...surely that has given you some idea of what is going on...outside of cuckolding a 3 some doesnt have to involve the man sitting in the corner. And its not just men,i get as much pleasure from knowing kev has fun as he does from me...we love each other and enjoy the others happiness. | |||
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"Seems a very odd attitude.Sounds like you want free hookers." LOL love it! but seriously, it is a very stange attitude to have ( im sure your not the only one) if you had a girlfriend would you let her play with other women? if so whyso? and why not a man? the reasons why men ( or women) enjoy watching their partner with another person are many and varied, but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. | |||
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"arrogant to not want a single guy who doesnt respect or understand us anywhere near me... Meh...i can live with that No i dont understand what pleasure a guy can get out of sitting in a corner and watching his wife with another guy. I dont understand it at all which is why i have asked the question because i want to know? If this is your/hubbies thing and he asked "what makes it so horny being with my wife while i watch" then i woukd try to explain why and not get all prosumptious That isnt what u said tho,you said that with wifey you couldnt swing...so this is somewhere to get your end away until u settle down.Never mind what fantasies she might have. look at the quote Nothing that you have not given away will ever be really yours. If your relationship is based on the idea you have to "own" someone,that jealousy is acceptable and trust has conditions,then,in mine,and Mr lewis' _iew you wont understand a relationship where belonging is not about ownership . You say you have cuckolded...surely that has given you some idea of what is going on...outside of cuckolding a 3 some doesnt have to involve the man sitting in the corner. And its not just men,i get as much pleasure from knowing kev has fun as he does from me...we love each other and enjoy the others happiness." Well said JP | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different perspective. I read a thread about a girl who likes the idea of another woman going down on her but couldn't even think about reciprocating. Does that mean you all jump on her for not being a swinger? No? Double standards eh? " No...cos she didnt say hubby cudnt go down on the girl... | |||
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", but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. " to us it is about the sharing, the pleasure of seeing the other happy and having fun. we both enjoy the sights and sounds of our mutual pleasure, the sounds and sights of our fun turns the other on, we share, we talk we have full trust in each other. when fsm is with another woman, i love the moment our eyes meet and we share a secret smile. the moment our fingers touch, and later when we are together and talk and revisit the fun , it reinforces our love, if that makes sense. | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different perspective. I read a thread about a girl who likes the idea of another woman going down on her but couldn't even think about reciprocating. Does that mean you all jump on her for not being a swinger? No? Double standards eh? " Agreed! | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different prospectives " Aaaahhh somebody educated enough to read tye message. I love being with a guys wife. I love that they have selected me to enter there home and sleep with the wife in there marital bed. The fact i have been selected quite often due to my age and other stats turns me on. Knowing im younger and often bigger than hubby so giving wife something he cant REEAAAALLY gets me going. The well hung toyboy role or dom bull is my thing and reason for joining fab. Many many many couples join to find single guys just like me. I understand what the wife gets out of it but not the hubby. Thats why i ask? What is it that hubbies who watch enjoy? I alsi asked what women get out of having hubbies watch? Power? Dominance? I maintain my statement in the original post that i dont think i would get any enjoyment at all at watching my partner with another bloke. Ive never been in that position, it may change. I dont judge others for there preferences so i would appreciate people spending a little time o read my queation before jumping on the bandwagon with what i percieve as arrogant persumptions. | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different prospectives Aaaahhh somebody educated enough to read tye message. I love being with a guys wife. I love that they have selected me to enter there home and sleep with the wife in there marital bed. The fact i have been selected quite often due to my age and other stats turns me on. Knowing im younger and often bigger than hubby so giving wife something he cant REEAAAALLY gets me going. The well hung toyboy role or dom bull is my thing and reason for joining fab. Many many many couples join to find single guys just like me. I understand what the wife gets out of it but not the hubby. Thats why i ask? What is it that hubbies who watch enjoy? I alsi asked what women get out of having hubbies watch? Power? Dominance? I maintain my statement in the original post that i dont think i would get any enjoyment at all at watching my partner with another bloke. Ive never been in that position, it may change. I dont judge others for there preferences so i would appreciate people spending a little time o read my queation before jumping on the bandwagon with what i percieve as arrogant persumptions." i read your post correctly in the first place. i was pointing out that you chose to the answers that some of the people put. chose to read and take on board the points you didnt like | |||
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", but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. to us it is about the sharing, the pleasure of seeing the other happy and having fun. we both enjoy the sights and sounds of our mutual pleasure, the sounds and sights of our fun turns the other on, we share, we talk we have full trust in each other. when fsm is with another woman, i love the moment our eyes meet and we share a secret smile. the moment our fingers touch, and later when we are together and talk and revisit the fun , it reinforces our love, if that makes sense." Sorry to copy your post but you put it so well that I couldn't resist. I tried and my post sounded crap..lol Totally agree especailly about the secret smile and shared looks. | |||
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"Ok so what if you meet a woman on here and you fall in love with eachother but you couldnt take seeing her with someone else yet she still wants to swing, not a great situation to find yourself in is it " Like my first post says, he may well prefer seperate room fun, which still allows his new wife to swing does it not? Like the OP says, he may well change his opinion when actually in that position too. Nothing is set in stone and no one can knoww 100% what there own feelings will be until they're in that position. | |||
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"Ok so what if you meet a woman on here and you fall in love with eachother but you couldnt take seeing her with someone else yet she still wants to swing, not a great situation to find yourself in is it " What if????? I dont know. Nobody knows the answer to what if?? I have quite clearly stated that my opinion may change. I dont know.....ive never been in the situation. I simply asked a question to couples on what enjoyment does a hubby take from watching??? Is tht question really so difficult? Single guys get bad press from so many on here for not showing interest and looking for a quick shag. You ask a genuine question and get shout down in flames by people incapable of reading. Yet its quite ironic these same people plaster "single guys pleasr read the profile" all over their profiles | |||
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", but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. to us it is about the sharing, the pleasure of seeing the other happy and having fun. we both enjoy the sights and sounds of our mutual pleasure, the sounds and sights of our fun turns the other on, we share, we talk we have full trust in each other. ." I think this pretty much is my OH's _iew - he likes to see me having fun and that the other guy(s) are turned on in having fun with me. SOmetimes he watches, sometimes he joins in, sometimes he's not there and I tell him about it after. The fun with the other guy is almost a form of foreplay to the main event - sex between us. I certainly wouldn't want sex with someone who has the attitude that they're giving me something he can't - I/ we're not looking for a young/ hot bull/ dom figure - just another male who wants to join us in some way. An attitude to me of 'I'll take what's on offer but I could never do it' is quite off putting. However, we're not into humiliation cuckolding, more the voyeuristic side. | |||
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"Personally I find it hard to class any single guy as a 'proper swinger' unless he's had the experience with a former girlfriend. And I think it is the single guy missing out on the experience of a very close connection with your partner while swinging, but why hubbies find it a turn on (apart from every swingers love to see each other enjoy) is personal I think. It's fun." Oh and cuckolding is not our thing. | |||
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", but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. to us it is about the sharing, the pleasure of seeing the other happy and having fun. we both enjoy the sights and sounds of our mutual pleasure, the sounds and sights of our fun turns the other on, we share, we talk we have full trust in each other. . I think this pretty much is my OH's _iew - he likes to see me having fun and that the other guy(s) are turned on in having fun with me. SOmetimes he watches, sometimes he joins in, sometimes he's not there and I tell him about it after. The fun with the other guy is almost a form of foreplay to the main event - sex between us. I certainly wouldn't want sex with someone who has the attitude that they're giving me something he can't - I/ we're not looking for a young/ hot bull/ dom figure - just another male who wants to join us in some way. An attitude to me of 'I'll take what's on offer but I could never do it' is quite off putting. However, we're not into humiliation cuckolding, more the voyeuristic side." Totally agree with those points Pink | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" Just reread your post So you are quite comfortable with a guy watching you fuck his partner But the thought of you watching your girl with another guy actually horrifies you? Ok it's not for some but horrifies? Think you may be playing the wrong game | |||
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", but i enjoy watching my partner having fun with someone else because i enjoy the look on someone elses face when he is giving them please, i enjoy knowing that that is the pleasure i can get whenever i want it and i also love knowing that he is enjoying himself, but he always looks at me and touches me if i'm close enough to keep the connection between us. and its the same with him watching me. to us it is about the sharing, the pleasure of seeing the other happy and having fun. we both enjoy the sights and sounds of our mutual pleasure, the sounds and sights of our fun turns the other on, we share, we talk we have full trust in each other. when fsm is with another woman, i love the moment our eyes meet and we share a secret smile. the moment our fingers touch, and later when we are together and talk and revisit the fun , it reinforces our love, if that makes sense." love that too very well answered paul | |||
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"I would like my hubby to watch me with another man, he doesnt want to though, he does sometimes stand outside the bedroom door and listen, and quite likes to see the pictures of me with other men. " Crikey from the posters on here that would risk him being called "not a proper swinger". | |||
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"Ok so what if you meet a woman on here and you fall in love with eachother but you couldnt take seeing her with someone else yet she still wants to swing, not a great situation to find yourself in is it " Then you swing separately!! Couples on here do it so why can't he? | |||
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"Never knew I was not classed as a proper swinger cos I am single. That's BS! People do like to label, don't they? Thought this lifestyle was embraced by open minded liberal people. Turns out its not after all!!" well am a swingle, also have been in a swinging relationship once for nearly 3 years. so perhaps am not a true swinger. yes there are a lot of swingers who really are not open minded liberal people. all i was saying earlier on in posts is that the OP was responding to some parts of peoples answers and not really to other parts. | |||
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"Whoa, whoa, whoa! Why is the OP being attacked for expressing a desire to understand from the other perspective? It's a genuine question and is in no way selfish. I absolutely agree with what he is saying. Not every one in the swinging world is comfortable with what someone else is comfortable with. It doesn't make them selfish or less of a swinger than anyone else.! He swings as a single man and couldn't bear to watch a partner ( if he had one) in a swing environment. News flash..a lot of single men and women feel that way and that's why they swing as single. The fact that couples are happy doing it doesn't mean everyone can! Jesus, people are so quick to jump on a bandwagon and crucify posts without understanding it!!" actually... this is where i am going to take umbridge with you and the OP.... so it is okay for you to play with someone else's partner.. but god forbid your partner wanting to play with someone else.... doesn't that seem a bit ironic... doesn't that seem to be a bit of a double standard.... if he really and truely needs to know the answer to that question, then to be honest I don't think you or him really understand what it is to be a swinger... I have swung as a couple.. and i have swung as i do now as a single guy.... and before you say "well it is a sex site" which I abhor... it is a swinging site... the big bit at the top says "fabswingers" on it..... it is an empathy and an understanding, it is all inclusive and consentual, it is a community where we have fun... it is about EVERYONE getting something out of it.. and I thought that that is the first thing that would have been understood by all parties... so to say "well i wouldn't want someone else touching my partner" screams of arrogence, screams of jealosy, screams of people being opotunistic, screams of people who only care about getting their leg over and sod anyone else..... if i had a partner and they didn't want to do this I'd give it up in a heartbeat... if I had a partner and they wanted to explore it, I'd let them take it at their own pace... and if they got turned on by it, I would be more turned on than them.... trust me! thats why the single guys and girls who "get it" and understand that stick out a mile.... and thats why meets are fanstatic, because everyone is looking out for everyone.. not just themselves... | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different prospectives Aaaahhh somebody educated enough to read tye message. I love being with a guys wife. I love that they have selected me to enter there home and sleep with the wife in there marital bed. The fact i have been selected quite often due to my age and other stats turns me on. Knowing im younger and often bigger than hubby so giving wife something he cant REEAAAALLY gets me going. The well hung toyboy role or dom bull is my thing and reason for joining fab. Many many many couples join to find single guys just like me. I understand what the wife gets out of it but not the hubby. Thats why i ask? What is it that hubbies who watch enjoy? I alsi asked what women get out of having hubbies watch? Power? Dominance? " So what you are really saying or STATING is not what the hubby gets out of it bit what YOU get out of it. You get a high from what you perceive as ridiculing/embarrassing the bloke while shagging his wife in front of him. What you can't understand is why a guy would allow this to happen. This is where your age and immaturity enter the equation or you would know. In our case as someone else has already stated, watching your wife with another guy gives you a perspective on sex you don't normally see. To allow her free reign to express her desire and then also to join in as a 3some making sure her desires are fully exhausted is something only a committed partner could understand. Oh, I mentioned immaturity. That is your statement about not watching your partner with another guy. Could you tell us here and now, what would you do if your wife/long term girlfriend asked for a 3some with another guy? | |||
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" actually... this is where i am going to take umbridge with you and the OP.... so it is okay for you to play with someone else's partner.. but god forbid your partner wanting to play with someone else.... doesn't that seem a bit ironic... doesn't that seem to be a bit of a double standard.... if he really and truely needs to know the answer to that question, then to be honest I don't think you or him really understand what it is to be a swinger... I have swung as a couple.. and i have swung as i do now as a single guy.... and before you say "well it is a sex site" which I abhor... it is a swinging site... the big bit at the top says "fabswingers" on it..... it is an empathy and an understanding, it is all inclusive and consentual, it is a community where we have fun... it is about EVERYONE getting something out of it.. and I thought that that is the first thing that would have been understood by all parties... so to say "well i wouldn't want someone else touching my partner" screams of arrogence, screams of jealosy, screams of people being opotunistic, screams of people who only care about getting their leg over and sod anyone else..... if i had a partner and they didn't want to do this I'd give it up in a heartbeat... if I had a partner and they wanted to explore it, I'd let them take it at their own pace... and if they got turned on by it, I would be more turned on than them.... trust me! thats why the single guys and girls who "get it" and understand that stick out a mile.... and thats why meets are fanstatic, because everyone is looking out for everyone.. not just themselves... " Taking umbrage with me and the OP is really not necessary and here's why: I think you misunderstand what the OP. First of all, the OP is a single guy, he has NO partner! The OP is saying he can't understand why because he has never been in that position of swinging as a couple. Maybe someday he will find himself in that position and when that time comes, maybe he will deal with the circumstances but CURRENTLY he is not in that position hence why he wants to understand why. Maybe it will turn out that he might come to enjoy swinging as a couple someday, jut as couples on here enjoy it. After all, no couple on here jumped straight to the point they are at. They went through growing pains, teething problems whatever you may call it. See "swinging as a couple" this way.. Its like a journey, some are near the destination others haven't even started (the OP)..he might start this journey someday, who knows, or he might not. But as of NOW, he wants to understand what it feels like to take that journey. On the contrary, I think it's a very good question and insightful. He seeks to understand what he brings to the equation for that couple he meets. I am sorry but I don't take kindly to you patronising me by saying you know what I am going to say next (well its a sex site)! I wasn't ever going to say that and believe I know its an attitude, a lifestyle thing and not just about sex and thats why I have to have chemistry before I meet someone.. Do you really think most single guys jut wanna get a leg over?? You think this is what it's all about. Maybe some, but sweeping generalizations never did anyone any good.. | |||
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"I'm going to jump to the defence of the OP here. What he said is that he couldn't WATCH his wife/GF doing it with another guy. Not that he wouldn't swing. That's why some people prefer seperate room swaps surely? I think a few of you have over reacted at what was a simple quest to understand a different prospectives Aaaahhh somebody educated enough to read tye message. I love being with a guys wife. I love that they have selected me to enter there home and sleep with the wife in there marital bed. The fact i have been selected quite often due to my age and other stats turns me on. Knowing im younger and often bigger than hubby so giving wife something he cant REEAAAALLY gets me going. The well hung toyboy role or dom bull is my thing and reason for joining fab. Many many many couples join to find single guys just like me. I understand what the wife gets out of it but not the hubby. Thats why i ask? What is it that hubbies who watch enjoy? I alsi asked what women get out of having hubbies watch? Power? Dominance? So what you are really saying or STATING is not what the hubby gets out of it bit what YOU get out of it. You get a high from what you perceive as ridiculing/embarrassing the bloke while shagging his wife in front of him. What you can't understand is why a guy would allow this to happen. This is where your age and immaturity enter the equation or you would know. In our case as someone else has already stated, watching your wife with another guy gives you a perspective on sex you don't normally see. To allow her free reign to express her desire and then also to join in as a 3some making sure her desires are fully exhausted is something only a committed partner could understand. Oh, I mentioned immaturity. That is your statement about not watching your partner with another guy. Could you tell us here and now, what would you do if your wife/long term girlfriend asked for a 3some with another guy? " | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" This is one of the reasons we never class single guys as swingers, most just don't have the right mindset! XXXX | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" Although not cuckold I like just watching Shaz have fun. Why? A few reasons for me although I bet it may be different reason's for others. I like to see Shaz having fun, if she's happy then I am. I find it erotic knowing another guy likes my wife enough to have sex with her. It's better and more real than watching a porno For us, its naughty as not the sort of thing we was brought up to do. Can learn things from others that can enhance our own fun. It can make our own fun more naughty after a meet when we talk about what went on! I have a fetish for watching others. I could go on but you get the idea. And just so you know, I normally only just watch if she's having fun with an email Tony | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches? This is one of the reasons we never class single guys as swingers, most just don't have the right mindset! XXXX" amazed at this the op by his own admission enjoys his meets likewise the other partys involved. but to try and further his understanding decides to ask a question of people in those situations the dogs of war slip and we now have mindsets and not a swinger involved why ???? who is to say anyone is a swinger as we all have preferances and boundaries be happy and not quite so judgmental the guy is only trying to get an insight into what happens for others | |||
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" actually... this is where i am going to take umbridge with you and the OP.... so it is okay for you to play with someone else's partner.. but god forbid your partner wanting to play with someone else.... doesn't that seem a bit ironic... Well said! doesn't that seem to be a bit of a double standard.... if he really and truely needs to know the answer to that question, then to be honest I don't think you or him really understand what it is to be a swinger... I have swung as a couple.. and i have swung as i do now as a single guy.... and before you say "well it is a sex site" which I abhor... it is a swinging site... the big bit at the top says "fabswingers" on it..... it is an empathy and an understanding, it is all inclusive and consentual, it is a community where we have fun... it is about EVERYONE getting something out of it.. and I thought that that is the first thing that would have been understood by all parties... so to say "well i wouldn't want someone else touching my partner" screams of arrogence, screams of jealosy, screams of people being opotunistic, screams of people who only care about getting their leg over and sod anyone else..... if i had a partner and they didn't want to do this I'd give it up in a heartbeat... if I had a partner and they wanted to explore it, I'd let them take it at their own pace... and if they got turned on by it, I would be more turned on than them.... trust me! thats why the single guys and girls who "get it" and understand that stick out a mile.... and thats why meets are fanstatic, because everyone is looking out for everyone.. not just themselves... Taking umbrage with me and the OP is really not necessary and here's why: I think you misunderstand what the OP. First of all, the OP is a single guy, he has NO partner! The OP is saying he can't understand why because he has never been in that position of swinging as a couple. Maybe someday he will find himself in that position and when that time comes, maybe he will deal with the circumstances but CURRENTLY he is not in that position hence why he wants to understand why. Maybe it will turn out that he might come to enjoy swinging as a couple someday, jut as couples on here enjoy it. After all, no couple on here jumped straight to the point they are at. They went through growing pains, teething problems whatever you may call it. See "swinging as a couple" this way.. Its like a journey, some are near the destination others haven't even started (the OP)..he might start this journey someday, who knows, or he might not. But as of NOW, he wants to understand what it feels like to take that journey. On the contrary, I think it's a very good question and insightful. He seeks to understand what he brings to the equation for that couple he meets. I am sorry but I don't take kindly to you patronising me by saying you know what I am going to say next (well its a sex site)! I wasn't ever going to say that and believe I know its an attitude, a lifestyle thing and not just about sex and thats why I have to have chemistry before I meet someone.. Do you really think most single guys jut wanna get a leg over?? You think this is what it's all about. Maybe some, but sweeping generalizations never did anyone any good.." | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches? This is one of the reasons we never class single guys as swingers, most just don't have the right mindset! XXXXamazed at this the op by his own admission enjoys his meets likewise the other partys involved. but to try and further his understanding decides to ask a question of people in those situations the dogs of war slip and we now have mindsets and not a swinger involved why ???? who is to say anyone is a swinger as we all have preferances and boundaries be happy and not quite so judgmental the guy is only trying to get an insight into what happens for others " By his own admission, the O.P would be horrified if his girlfriend had sex with other guys. This seems quite a common attitude from single guys who have posted on similar threads. So its O.K to go around using other guys wives or partners, under the guise of being a swinger, until they get one of their own. As we said any guy who has to ask why others like watching their partners enjoy themselves, but would hate seeing their own partner have sex with others, we'd call chancers not swingers. | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches? This is one of the reasons we never class single guys as swingers, most just don't have the right mindset! XXXXamazed at this the op by his own admission enjoys his meets likewise the other partys involved. but to try and further his understanding decides to ask a question of people in those situations the dogs of war slip and we now have mindsets and not a swinger involved why ???? who is to say anyone is a swinger as we all have preferances and boundaries be happy and not quite so judgmental the guy is only trying to get an insight into what happens for others By his own admission, the O.P would be horrified if his girlfriend had sex with other guys. This seems quite a common attitude from single guys who have posted on similar threads. So its O.K to go around using other guys wives or partners, under the guise of being a swinger, until they get one of their own. As we said any guy who has to ask why others like watching their partners enjoy themselves, but would hate seeing their own partner have sex with others, we'd call chancers not swingers. " he dosnt have a partner but is showing signs of change by asking questions so you started dating and asked your partners to immidiatly become full blown swingers? or was it a gradual thing until you got to the point you are at now. also why only single guys? surly single fems should be involved in this not a swinger or bad mindset scenario opppps forgot the swinging world revolves around the single fem as lots (not saying yourselfs) of couples have no single males on their profile my point in this was live and let live the guy is exploring new things and wanted an insight into somthing that may intrest him in the future until then he and his meets are happy problem solved | |||
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"Fabio There is only one difference between me and you. I am honest enough to admitt that i dont think id like to watch and intrigued by those that do. Your an high and mighty swinger who in theory would happily allow a non existant partner to swing. Your here as single male just like me" I may be here as a single bloke... but judging by your Opening Post... the only thing we share is air...... and as for the non existant partner... well if you had read my post you would have known that I had swing as both a single guy and a couple.... so thanks for playing.... do you have anything else? | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" If you would like an answer to this why not ask the guy of the couple you meet | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches? If you would like an answer to this why not ask the guy of the couple you meet" Quite so.... I've always believed in walking a mile in the other mans shoes... Wolf | |||
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"What is it that turns you on?? I have had half a dozen threesomes and a few cuckold meetings with married couples. I have loved every one. Just wanted to know from a hubbies prospective what they like about it or how they feel about it. Im not a jealous type in the slightest but the thought of watching a girlfriend suck another guys cock or getting fucked by him would horrorfy me not turn me on. So you guys......what is in it for you?? And wives.....what do you think of being with a guy while hubby watches?" Why didn't you just ask the couples you'd been with? | |||
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"I read the OP's post to mean that he was asking what a Cuckold got out of it and that he didn't think he would get any enjoyment out of being a Cuckold. Sounds like a simple question to me but maybe it was worded in a way some people didn't understand. " And if he had asked that we could have had a great adult discussion about D/s relatonships...many people call themselves doms or bulls without the least understanding of cuck relations or BDSM. Whilst humiliation isnt a great part of our relationship(Sir says he has fond more fun ways to make me cry )i do enjoy it and could have probably shared insights into the way being humiliated and degraded makes me feel towards him. However someone who says they would be horrified at the thought of their girlfriend giving someone a bj doesnt seem the person who wants to have an open non judgemental discussion. | |||
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"women/cpls do it too,and generally without making this the OPs poor choosing or words like 'jealousy', I do believe no longer than a few days ago some couples mentioned the greeneyed monster...without such a backlash(a fucking early one at that). And I believe it may b agreed that jealousy comes in so many forms, without it dictating a lack of swinging understanding. to the OPs question, I love seeing my past present an future partners getting fucked...just as long as its not anyway of getting out of a 'relationship'.Of course if there is another woman half I can fuck too thats equally as enjoyable." I have only got down to your post, I dread to think whats below it....but I agree with what you have said. Not everyone can play these games, we are not all the same. If the man doesn't think he could do this with a G/F, then all he is doing is being honest. | |||
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"Wow... I feel sorry for the OP. Some of the replies in this thread have made me cringe. I think that some couples who have replied may have forgotten how they felt when they first started swinging. When Mrs ex-_arambar and I first opened up our relationship to others we both felt an immense feeling of uncertainty and anxiety about what we were doing. Societal norms are such that swinging is seen as being immoral... we are taught from a very young age to be monogamous, "to love and to cherish from this day forward until death us do part", yada yada yada. If I had been asked before we opened up our relationship whether I was happy to see her having sex with another man, then my answer would have been a definitive no. If I was in a relationship now and I was asked the same question then my answer would be very different... it would be a yes, although it would evolve around whether it was something she wanted to do, and whether it was something we were open and honest about and not done in a deceitful way, etc... I doubt many (any..?) couples on here simply went straight to being at complete ease with their partner having sex with someone else, without passing Go and without collecting £200. The OP is not in a relationship currently and, from what he has said, hasn't been in a swinging relationship with a previous partner. Therefore it's normal that he's got questions about how it feels, why you'd do it, what emotions you experience, etc... He doesn't have a partner to discuss these things with, so instead of ignoring it and not seeking the answers, he asks an innocent enough question to try to understand it... yet he gets berated for doing so. Maybe he should have just not bothered trying to further his understanding. The OP's choice of language may have been unfortunate for some words, but I don't think that justifies some of the replies he has received in this thread. Just my 2¢. I'm pretty thick skinned, so feel free to disagree with my thoughts. Happy to discuss " We did...we talked,we shared,we fantasized,we fucked...neither of us were ever "horrified" at the idea. Have all the sympathy for the op u like,personally someone who will fuck other mens wives but has such strong feelings about someone they are in a relationship with that they would feel horror at the idea of them swinging is a hypocrite. | |||
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"I think as iconic said... the most common misconception out there, especially in a lot of single guys, is that people do it to replace something that is missing, as opposed to an addition to any loving relationship.... and the "well i wouldn't want to do this with my other half" comments don't really help with dispelling that misconception.... which I can fully understand would get a lot of backs up.. especially of couples...... " That's spot on! I haven't got time for single men that think that they are 'making up' for something that the 'think' is lacking in OUR relationship. Do we need single men to keep me happy? No! Do we want single men to make me happy? No! ....I'm already happy with what my husband gives me Do we like respectful single men being introduced into our extremely happy relationship extra 'fun'? Yes! The same goes for single ladies and couples. It's a case of we do what we 'want' to do in a very 'none-needy' way. | |||
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"Don't have a problem with the OP asking a question and some of the answers have been quite vehement but probably because of the language used in the original post. For me it's quite simple. The OP has quite extensive experience of what could be called a cuck/bull scenario yet having enjoyed the lady he has no idea what it is the gent gets out of it. I'm sorry this smacks very much of a single guy just looking for a legover. Single guys have a huge role in this lifestyle as swingers and they can be easily differentiated from the leg over merchants. I enjoy sharing Elle, taking a rush from seeing her with another guy but also knowing that when he/they leave I'll be left with the wife I adore. I would never do this with a guy who didn't know what I got out of it. So for me, it's good that the OP is looking to learn and I don't think it matters whether he would share his gf or not. What is worrying is that he freely describes himself as a bull, if he doesn't understand swinging then he certainly won't understand that. " ^^^^this....if i had a penny for every man who described themselves as a bull or Dom,who didnt have a clue i wud currently be naked on a private island in Greece. Being a bull,a good one at least,is about enhancing the sex life of both partners. | |||
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"This is one of the reasons I rarely post anymore. The guy asked a question stated how he thought he might feel and asked what other people get out of it! He was curious and maybe some constructive answers would have made him more understanding. Instead he got treated with the usual single guy, derrision and rudeness. I don't understand the whole slave master thing the whole idea turns my stomach. I don't berrate other people for it. Each to their own. I don't like the married and cheating either but again each to their own. The thought of sitting there watching his hypothetical wife/girlfriend at the moment fills him with horror and said he didn't think he could do it. He just asked a question. I thought swinging was about having fun with like minded people. Sharing experiences and experimenting with your sexuality. We are not all of the same mind or same tastes. If we were life would be very boring. Some people seem to berrate a person for being here when single then dipping out of the scene when in a relationship. Or having a go at a person who stays in the scene and cheats. Seems you can't win no matter what you do. " Thank you! My point exactly | |||
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" I think that the fact the op isn't sure he could handle it is normal.. after all I've talked to many couples who don't have single guys as the guy doesn't like seeing his partner with the other guys.... Same thing really..." To be fair, I've heard some single girls say the same thing cali that they wouldn't be sure if they could share a male partner in front of their eyes, and more interestingly (perhaps almost territorially) have the male partner ejaculate inside them People who have only ever swung single have a different model to embrace when it comes to doing it with a partner - that's shown in the OPs anxiety about it. The OP will only know when the time comes. Single people need to learn that swinging is not due to a death or failure in a relationship. That partners don't immediately want to run off with the next single male or female that has them. Swinging for a couple is a liberation. Wh | |||
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"I have watched this thread with interest and can see it from 2 sides. The first is I have been swinging since 2003 as a single guy and in all that time I always saw myself as an addition to the couples I played with sex life. Although we are all their to have fun I always new that I was there to help enhance their fun, whilst also having a lot of fun myself. The second _iew is I am now in a relationship and am totally loved up and when we got together I told her all about my lifestyle !!! and she was very intersted as she has always wanted to try some bi fun !!! So after lots of talking we set up a couples profile on here, we haven't played yet as we are both unsure how we would react seeing each other play with someone else, Peronally I don't think I would have to much of a problem with her playing with another guy, and now for a fact I wouldn't have a problem seeing her play with another girl lol !!! However.... She has said she doesn't think she could cope with seeing me with another women !!! she thinks she wouldn't like the idea of me giving pleasure to someone else !!! So thee it is from both sides of the coin. As for the OP I think he had a valid question, and in my opinion some did go to town on him just for being honest and asking an honest question. Maybe he could have worded it slightly better but thats all. We are all on here to have fun and meet some great and interesting people, and if we were all the same then life would be pretty boring. Peace and love everyone and hey it's nearly Christmas be nice !!!! " Tell you what... When we got together, we wrote our own questionnaire so we could work out boundaries and anything awkward we might need to help each other over. We came up with an exhaustive collection of rules which we decided we would vehemently stick to... ...and then after our first meet, we folded those rules into a paper plane and launched it at the bin. We didn't need those rules ever again, just a debrief So yes, good luck to you both, and have a great Christmas too Wolf | |||
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"This is one of the reasons I rarely post anymore. The guy asked a question stated how he thought he might feel and asked what other people get out of it! He was curious and maybe some constructive answers would have made him more understanding. Instead he got treated with the usual single guy, derrision and rudeness. I don't understand the whole slave master thing the whole idea turns my stomach. I don't berrate other people for it. Each to their own. I don't like the married and cheating either but again each to their own. The thought of sitting there watching his hypothetical wife/girlfriend at the moment fills him with horror and said he didn't think he could do it. He just asked a question. I thought swinging was about having fun with like minded people. Sharing experiences and experimenting with your sexuality. We are not all of the same mind or same tastes. If we were life would be very boring. Some people seem to berrate a person for being here when single then dipping out of the scene when in a relationship. Or having a go at a person who stays in the scene and cheats. Seems you can't win no matter what you do. Very well said ! " | |||
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"there is a lot of pleasure in swinging and seeing your partner enjoying but there is really nothing better for us than that moment of reclaim." mmmmmmm +2 | |||
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"there is a lot of pleasure in swinging and seeing your partner enjoying but there is really nothing better for us than that moment of reclaim. mmmmmmm +2 " Oooooohhhh.... my favourite part +3 | |||
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"But yet again if you have been in the situation several times why not just ask the male half of the couples youve been with" Not being funny but I think that the OP has demonstrated, by his replies in this thread, that he is smarter than the average bear (no offence to any bears reading this). Maybe he thought it would be inappropriate, maybe the right occasion to do so never arose, maybe the couples he has met have all been from the planet Zogg and their grasp of the English language is somewhat lacking. Or maybe these meets never happened and this was all an elaborate "look at me" thread created so that he would generate more hits on his profile with the intention of hopefully attract the attention of people who would have otherwise been completely unaware that his profile even exists. Y'know how it goes... an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters and an infinite amount of time - perhaps there's a correlation here, and whilst there's only a finite number of members on this site, perhaps if you get enough page hits eventually you'll find someone who's interested in meeting. Oh, if only there was a website for swingers that had a forum, including a section for asking swinging-related questions, where he could have instead asked the question and got the thoughts of hundreds of other swingers. | |||
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"But yet again if you have been in the situation several times why not just ask the male half of the couples youve been with Not being funny but I think that the OP has demonstrated, by his replies in this thread, that he is smarter than the average bear (no offence to any bears reading this). Maybe he thought it would be inappropriate, maybe the right occasion to do so never arose, maybe the couples he has met have all been from the planet Zogg and their grasp of the English language is somewhat lacking. Or maybe these meets never happened and this was all an elaborate "look at me" thread created so that he would generate more hits on his profile with the intention of hopefully attract the attention of people who would have otherwise been completely unaware that his profile even exists. Y'know how it goes... an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters and an infinite amount of time - perhaps there's a correlation here, and whilst there's only a finite number of members on this site, perhaps if you get enough page hits eventually you'll find someone who's interested in meeting. Oh, if only there was a website for swingers that had a forum, including a section for asking swinging-related questions, where he could have instead asked the question and got the thoughts of hundreds of other swingers. " Right well being a swinging couple looking for single men, if our meet turned up and asked Mr what he got out of it he would not be offended and any couple who made the person feel uncomfortable for asking something like that aren't very accommodating for people with questions... everyone has questions and lets face it communication is key to everything. If you cant ask that kind of thing to someone your about to Fuck or be watched by who can you ask without being penalized? | |||
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