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By *itvclaire OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

Just wondered if anyone else her identities as gender fluid? It’s not something I see on many profiles.

XX

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I do.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Personally I don't, but can quite see why others would describe themselves as such.

It's also a cracking name for a lube!

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By *andy cane321Couple
over a year ago

Aylesbury

I thought gender fluid was what Mrs Candy takes over her face

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

So much ignorance.

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

Interesting thread this. I’ve always been a straight male and comfortable with that but I’ve recently been doing lots of reading on the fluidity of sex and how it’s not as black and white as we learn it in school

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By *BWandhusbandCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"So much ignorance."

Really? Are they not just showing a sense of humour? They're certainly not being nasty.

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By *andy cane321Couple
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"So much ignorance.

Really? Are they not just showing a sense of humour? They're certainly not being nasty."

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"So much ignorance."
it’s called wit and humour.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s up to the individual what gender they identify with your comment I find very rude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

That's offensive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Gender odd balls seriously I think you need to at least be more open minded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

And then it turns nasty

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By *BWandhusbandCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

.....this, on the other hand, is ignorance.

Have your opinion by all means but calling people an 'odd ball' is really rude.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

So unnecessarily rude

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Stafford

Think everyone's block list just gained a member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For my part, I'm comfortable that my gender matches my identity. I have masculine aspects of my identity and feminine, but I identify as female.

It gives me the creeps to still see the word 'female' used as a noun. *shudders*

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By *ucilleWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne


"Think everyone's block list just gained a member. "

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted."
they are being amused at the phrase, not the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *hromosexualsCouple
over a year ago

Near Abercynon


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted."

To be fair; I don’t think that had happened at the point you complained about it.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

That's because they are ignorant probably like you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone's block list just gained a member.

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Mine sure did.

I even went off to see who was attending the next social I’m at so i could introduce myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone's block list just gained a member. "

Seems so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

To be fair; I don’t think that had happened at the point you complained about it."

It didn't take long tho......

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"That's because they are ignorant probably like you"
if you answer and quote then people can see to whom you refer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's because they are ignorant probably like you if you answer and quote then people can see to whom you refer."

Ooooo. Clever

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

If the cap fits which it seems to in your case

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"That's because they are ignorant probably like you if you answer and quote then people can see to whom you refer.

Ooooo. Clever "
get ya kit off!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isnt it next to the elbow grease in Halfords xD

But yeah seriously I guess I kinda am dunno. Dislike labels really, I'm mine own person.

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By *hromosexualsCouple
over a year ago

Near Abercynon


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

To be fair; I don’t think that had happened at the point you complained about it.

It didn't take long tho......"

No it didn’t. Highlight it when it happens, call it out, but let’s not go looking for offence when none is intended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Thankyou for your insulting comments. You must be perfect !

But I can from your profile you are definitely not.

How rude you are with your narrow little mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've only ever identified as female.

But I can imagine its confusing, not knowing what box you fit into, I'm just glad people are free to be who they are even if there are small minded people out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s up to the individual what gender they identify with your comment I find very rude"

Same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap .

And then it turns nasty "

Yep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone's block list just gained a member. "

Already done.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I don't think understanding features with some. As for labels people are fond of using them so don't get self righteous.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Some people think there are multiple genders, we respect that.

Some people think there are 2 genders, we respect that also.

We should all take care not to close our minds off to others, just because they disagree with us.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

The ‘reply & quote’ feature works for the benefit of everyone. It makes it easier to follow a threads nuances.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"The ‘reply & quote’ feature works for the benefit of everyone. It makes it easier to follow a threads nuances. "

And there lieth a lesson in futility....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Good for you.

I've been dealing with this since I was about 3 or 4. It's not like I chose to be like this.

I will be honest some trans activists make me cringe though. Stuff like you are transohobe if you wouldnt date a TGirl ect. The ridiculous amount of pronouns is also stupid. Think the issue as always is the vocal minority, most of just want to get on with our lives and try and be happy.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Such a clever dick Brighton Steve.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Such a clever dick Brighton Steve. "
I like that label!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Think everyone's block list just gained a member. "

She had been on mine for a while.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've only ever identified as female.

But I can imagine its confusing, not knowing what box you fit into, I'm just glad people are free to be who they are even if there are small minded people out there. "

Ive only ever identified as female too.

Unfortunately circumstance and the world as a whole saw to identify me otherwise.

You are one of the lucky ones. Make the most of it x

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Well put Racheal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've only ever identified as female.

But I can imagine its confusing, not knowing what box you fit into, I'm just glad people are free to be who they are even if there are small minded people out there.

Ive only ever identified as female too.

Unfortunately circumstance and the world as a whole saw to identify me otherwise.

You are one of the lucky ones. Make the most of it x

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Thank you, that was a way of putting it that hadn't occurred to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've only ever identified as female.

But I can imagine its confusing, not knowing what box you fit into, I'm just glad people are free to be who they are even if there are small minded people out there.

Ive only ever identified as female too.

Unfortunately circumstance and the world as a whole saw to identify me otherwise.

You are one of the lucky ones. Make the most of it x

"

I honestly am, although I am under the LGBT umbrella you wouldn't guess unless I told you so I dont have to deal with any of the rubbish and comments others do.

But I have friends who are trans/non binary and the amount of grief they get is unreal!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

You’re so happy in your skin that you feel the need to insult people

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Nice to hear Stacy

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By *ourneforfunMan
over a year ago

Lincoln

I sit pretty much on the fence on this. I fully respect everyones right to identify and behave how they want, but I think people should also be allowed to indentify others how they like.

For example, I see videos of people online lose their shit when being called sir, when they look like a man. Id always try to be respectfull, but sometime you look at someone and dont know what you are supposed to say.

I do believe that male and female labels are reference to your physique, so if you have a penis you are a man, but you still have the right to to dress, act and identify how you like.

I also consider myself straight, but have seen some sexy as fook trans people (nicole maines)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap .

Good for you.

I've been dealing with this since I was about 3 or 4. It's not like I chose to be like this.

I will be honest some trans activists make me cringe though. Stuff like you are transohobe if you wouldnt date a TGirl ect. The ridiculous amount of pronouns is also stupid. Think the issue as always is the vocal minority, most of just want to get on with our lives and try and be happy."

I'd like to be able to celebrate being a woman without being told I'm being an exclusionist terf. I've crewed at so many TV/trans friendly events, when I'm called a bigot for saying I have a vagina it feels like it was all a giant waste of time. I realised quite early on in life that not everything in the world was about me. I'd just like to be able to do me, that's all. I've always wanted to be inclusive and this stuff feels really divisive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The uneducated get confused between genders and sexes. Medically there are two sexes and there are multiple genders and we now know they are not linked.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

I don't care what others regard themselves as, each to their own x

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By *ourneforfunMan
over a year ago

Lincoln

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land


"The uneducated get confused between genders and sexes. Medically there are two sexes and there are multiple genders and we now know they are not linked. "

Except intersex is medically recognised. Especially when babies are born as such

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By *ourneforfunMan
over a year ago

Lincoln

I just think all people should just be respected, and not worry about labels.

So what if someone wants to call themselves something else. Id doesnt hurt me.

Ill try my best to accomodate others, but also people need to be a bit less offendable.

Theres a difference between ignorance and nasty.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I couldn’t care less to be honest. I will happily respect whatever pronoun you wish to use.

It’s no effort on my part so I don’t understand why people get so get het up about it.

My Respect for people over rides my own thoughts on gender etc.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"[Removed by poster at 08/12/19 21:06:17]"

You only have to read the thread through to see evidence of both.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The uneducated get confused between genders and sexes. Medically there are two sexes and there are multiple genders and we now know they are not linked.

Except intersex is medically recognised. Especially when babies are born as such "

Yes but as it’s uncommon didn’t think it was worth mentioning.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"[Removed by poster at 08/12/19 21:06:17]

You only have to read the thread through to see evidence of both. "
oops.

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By *SAchickWoman
over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

How to win friends and influence people

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By *ourneforfunMan
over a year ago

Lincoln

Yes, theres never an excuse to be nasty to anyone, unless they have harmed you.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

To be fair; I don’t think that had happened at the point you complained about it.

It didn't take long tho......

No it didn’t. Highlight it when it happens, call it out, but let’s not go looking for offence when none is intended."

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"So much ignorance. it’s called wit and humour. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Gender odd balls?? Wow really? That’s an offensive comment to make.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

This statement does not contain humour or any degree of wit, but a large amount of ignorance.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap .

This statement does not contain humour or any degree of wit, but a large amount of ignorance."

Agreed

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I must say, didn’t the person who first used the phrase ‘gender fluid’ not have an inkling that there might be the possibility of some puns or jokes to go with it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only got as far as Tinkerbelles comment and saw red. Now I’ve seen everyone else’s I’m so glad I’m not the only one to have read it in disbelief. Sometimes there’s more ignorance and bigotry on Fab than in the outside world unfortunately

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By *ullpa72Man
over a year ago

Isle of Arran

Why oh why do consenting adults need to put label's on peaple ? Lose the labels ,be yourself and stop the divisiveness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Life is too short...chill out..

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By *andy cane321Couple
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Today i will identify as a toaster, who wants to insert a slice of bread

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By *ittlesub4uWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

Hi, my name is B and I’m a gender odd ball!

Haha I’m sure they meant to cause offence with that term but it suits me quite well! I’m genderqueer which isn’t the same as being fluid but I totally move through and celebrate my masc/femme/androgynous traits on different days.

Lots of love to all the trans*/gender-non-conforming folk on here.

It’s bloody hard work trying to get people to respect my gender and I hope with time it will get easier. Being part of fab rather than just existing in a queer bubble reminds me how far we still have to go!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It does seem to be getting confusing this huge spectrum of gender labels popping up. I am all for people being themselves but it does get tedious for me as a gay/ bicurious man being automatically lumped in with it all....sexuality and gender are two different things yet we are all lumped in. What I strongly disagree with is schools imposing a gender neutral approach on all children though

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By *eamgreen30Couple
over a year ago

stroud

S is going to keep her female mouth shut on this one for fear of getting booted from the site

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted."

People take the piss massively out of gays and many gays are humorous with it. Myself and other gay men I know have constant banter and piss taking out of ourselves and in tandem with straight people. Humour breaks down barriers. Gender people on the other hand are far too uptight and resort to calling police at the drop of a hat.

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By *eamgreen30Couple
over a year ago

stroud


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

People take the piss massively out of gays and many gays are humorous with it. Myself and other gay men I know have constant banter and piss taking out of ourselves and in tandem with straight people. Humour breaks down barriers. Gender people on the other hand are far too uptight and resort to calling police at the drop of a hat. "

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genderqueer here

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By *ittlesub4uWoman
over a year ago

Manchester


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

People take the piss massively out of gays and many gays are humorous with it. Myself and other gay men I know have constant banter and piss taking out of ourselves and in tandem with straight people. Humour breaks down barriers. Gender people on the other hand are far too uptight and resort to calling police at the drop of a hat. "

Gender people? Whatever do you mean?

Look whilst I appreciate that after decades of persecution and life being fucking terrible, cis-gay men are now largely accepted into society and in some communities don’t need to worry about death or abuse, that simply isn’t the case for trans*/GNC people at the moment. People are simply fighting for their rights to exist and be seen as they see themselves. Something that many, many people have fought for to enable you to have the light hearted approach you have today.

There’s loads of humour and comedy in our community, it’s how we stay strong but I for one won’t put up with threats, abuse or violence to appear jovial

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

People take the piss massively out of gays and many gays are humorous with it. Myself and other gay men I know have constant banter and piss taking out of ourselves and in tandem with straight people. Humour breaks down barriers. Gender people on the other hand are far too uptight and resort to calling police at the drop of a hat. "

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Well. Nothing brings the twats out like an opportunity to be nasty for absolutely no reason.

Love a self blocker threat. 4!! Think it’s a record!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Taking the piss out of people with gender fluidity isn't humour just plain bigoted.

People take the piss massively out of gays and many gays are humorous with it. Myself and other gay men I know have constant banter and piss taking out of ourselves and in tandem with straight people. Humour breaks down barriers. Gender people on the other hand are far too uptight and resort to calling police at the drop of a hat.

Gender people? Whatever do you mean?

Look whilst I appreciate that after decades of persecution and life being fucking terrible, cis-gay men are now largely accepted into society and in some communities don’t need to worry about death or abuse, that simply isn’t the case for trans*/GNC people at the moment. People are simply fighting for their rights to exist and be seen as they see themselves. Something that many, many people have fought for to enable you to have the light hearted approach you have today.

There’s loads of humour and comedy in our community, it’s how we stay strong but I for one won’t put up with threats, abuse or violence to appear jovial "

I do not know where to start with this. Gay men are still being beaten up and murdered and being hated in their own homes and the work place, despite laws.

I came out in 1996 as a 16 years old had grown men threatening to break my legs. I had a girl in college say I should be set on fire. I have been ignored, ridiculed and had various professional jobs undermined and destroyed in past years.

So before making assumptions that I am riding on the coat tails of those who have suffered in order to have the humour I do, take a breath.

No one is saying put up with death threats for god’s sake but on the other hand people can’t blink these days without threat of police and it is NOT winning hearts and minds, it is feeding a simmering resentment that one day could boil over

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By *ucilleWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne

I enjoy seeing the irony of people complaining about others being too easily offended and sensitive, while at the same coming across as sensitive and easily offended by the fact things ain't the way they used to be.

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England

Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

That's your opinion which I respect people are different and some times odd and unique is exiting xxxx

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

Well ..I'm definitely an oddball.. wouldn't say I was genderfluid though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Today i will identify as a toaster, who wants to insert a slice of bread "

I suspect youve been watching too much Piers Morgan and picked up his poor taste in transphobic jokes. Do you do monkey noises and gestures when watching football too?

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By *ucilleWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne


"Today i will identify as a toaster, who wants to insert a slice of bread

I suspect youve been watching too much Piers Morgan and picked up his poor taste in transphobic jokes. Do you do monkey noises and gestures when watching football too?"

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Today i will identify as a toaster, who wants to insert a slice of bread "

Plug yourself into the mains then

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use."

Why is this important?

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

Why is this important?"

Because i wouldnt want my young daughters using a public toilet or changing room with a male.

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By *riendly BiMan
over a year ago

h

There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use."

The unisex one.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop"

There certainly aren't as many as modern gender theory suggests, I'm sure last i looked into it there were 70-80 different listed genders(and growing)! That's just ridiculous.

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

Why is this important?

Because i wouldnt want my young daughters using a public toilet or changing room with a male."

You know ANYONE can literally use any public toilet if they really want to. Don’t use your kids as a cover for your prejudice. Own it

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop"

Wrong

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By *weety321Woman
over a year ago

nottingham

You’d think by now people would respect each and everyone of us. It doesn’t matter what gender, colour, sexuality, or anything else anyone is - we all bleed the same blood!

If people don’t have anything nice to say, then they shouldn’t say anything at all!

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By *riendly BiMan
over a year ago

h


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

Wrong "

What else is there?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Sex is what is between your legs.

Gender is what is between your ears.

Basically.

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By *ucilleWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne

I need to get my transphobe bingo card out....

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

Why is this important?

Because i wouldnt want my young daughters using a public toilet or changing room with a male.

You know ANYONE can literally use any public toilet if they really want to. Don’t use your kids as a cover for your prejudice. Own it"

Why separate the toilets in the first place then? Are they just prejudiced?

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

The unisex one."

I'm sure they exist, but I've never noticed one personally.

Currently 90% of establishments with toilet facilities only have Male or Female

Don't shoot the messenger here, just how things are(at least in my part of the country)

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The unisex loos often have a disabled sticker on the door, too.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"The unisex loos often have a disabled sticker on the door, too.

"

I thought they were purely toilets for people with disabilities, you learn something new everyday

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

The unisex one."

99% of public places dont have them.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"The unisex loos often have a disabled sticker on the door, too.

"

I wasn't aware of that!

Although seems to open a whole new topic of discussion! For another day though!

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"The unisex loos often have a disabled sticker on the door, too.

I thought they were purely toilets for people with disabilities, you learn something new everyday"

No.

There is nothing in law that reserves a toilet for the exclusive use of any particular group.

The Equality Act 2010 requires proprietors of non-domestic premises to make reasonable attempts to ensure people with a disability are catered for.

Many do this by creating a unisex toilet. The sign tells you the toilet is adapted for use by someone in a wheelchair. Nothing more.

Usually a lot more space than conventional toilets.

Unisex toilets also exist on the likes of trains, aeroplanes, buses etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people have more chips than Harry Ramsdens.

I regard myself as pansexual. I respect everyone else and their identity and only ask that they respect mine.

There’s no need for name calling or any form of hostility towards others who do not identify as you do.

People need to be more tolerant of one another however sadly, when hiding behind the anonymity of a computer, some people seem unable to show any tolerance or respect.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

On the subject of gender politics, I read this today about Saudi Arabia on the BBC:

"On Sunday, the Saudi ministry of municipalities said that restaurants would no longer need to maintain sex-segregated entrances. Instead it would be left up to businesses to decide. Until now, inside restaurants, families and women were usually cut off and separated from men on their own by screens."

Restauarants had to have separate entrances for men and women, and to segregate the dining area.

Reminds me of South Africa, to be honest.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Some people have more chips than Harry Ramsdens.

I regard myself as pansexual. I respect everyone else and their identity and only ask that they respect mine.

There’s no need for name calling or any form of hostility towards others who do not identify as you do.

People need to be more tolerant of one another however sadly, when hiding behind the anonymity of a computer, some people seem unable to show any tolerance or respect. "

I thought pan sexual was a sexuality, not a gender? Or am i misunderstanding?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

The unisex one.

99% of public places dont have them. "

What about trains and planes ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Free speech I love it

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Love the taste of gender fluid..

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

Wrong

What else is there?"

Intersex. You can have male and female genitalia. You can have inverted testies and a vagina. You can have testicles and a womb. Also you can have people raised as males with a very high oestrogen levels and vice versa. “Sex” is not column that you stand in but more a sliding scale within which you place.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Question, gender fluid, what public toilets do you use.

The unisex one.

99% of public places dont have them.

What about trains and planes ?"

I think they are all single person use anyways, if so it wouldn't really matter to me.

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

It relies on the honour system, that they won't misbehave. Just like leaving your doors open and unlocked - 99.9% of people wouldn't steal your things, but we lock doors for the 0.1%

Whilst the 0.1% aren't representative of the population as a whole with regards to stealing, we still lock our doors.

Locking your doors doesn't mean your bigoted, or that you are calling the rest of the population theives, it's just exercising caution.

Most of those identyfing as Trans women, are doing it for genuine reasons, but a tiny percentage of these are deviants are using it to gain access to spaces they wouldn't usually have access to

Jessica Yaniv should be taken as a warning.

I subscribe to Blair White on YouTube and think she has this fairly pegged, if anyone's interested

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

Wrong

What else is there?

Intersex. You can have male and female genitalia. You can have inverted testies and a vagina. You can have testicles and a womb. Also you can have people raised as males with a very high oestrogen levels and vice versa. “Sex” is not column that you stand in but more a sliding scale within which you place. "

Kleinfelders(spelling) and intersex are genetic anomalies, so they aren't really the same thing tbh

Someone born without arms, isn't the same as someone who cuts his/her arms off, even though the end result is the same, both have no arms

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

"

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

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By *riendly BiMan
over a year ago

h


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

Wrong

What else is there?

Intersex. You can have male and female genitalia. You can have inverted testies and a vagina. You can have testicles and a womb. Also you can have people raised as males with a very high oestrogen levels and vice versa. “Sex” is not column that you stand in but more a sliding scale within which you place.

Kleinfelders(spelling) and intersex are genetic anomalies, so they aren't really the same thing tbh

Someone born without arms, isn't the same as someone who cuts his/her arms off, even though the end result is the same, both have no arms "

Thank you for this reply

You’re either born a man or a woman regardless if you have a sex change to either sex. You are still a male or female as stated on your birth certificate

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?"

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

"

It's called fear.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

It's called fear.

"

Yes fear. Glad we agree!

It's perfectly reasonable to be fearful of potential predators looking to exploit children.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

"

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"If the cap fits which it seems to in your case "

Hunni i tend to identify that way. Having read the thread i dont think anyone was trying to offend, at least until the fat lady started to sing x

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By * and R cple4Couple
over a year ago

swansea


"Such a clever dick Brighton Steve. I like that label! "

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this "

Now that is offensive.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

It's called fear.

Yes fear. Glad we agree!

It's perfectly reasonable to be fearful of potential predators looking to exploit children."

Presumably you wouldn't have a problem sending an eight year old boy alone into the gents?

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive. "

If someone wants to abuse little children in a toilet, sticker on the door isn’t going to stop them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive. "

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this "

Statistically she is more likely to be under threat from a person she knows or is related to and these days is way more in danger using the internet from paedophiles than a unisex toilet I'm afraid.

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

If someone wants to abuse little children in a toilet, sticker on the door isn’t going to stop them. "

True, prevention is always best tho

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh


"There are two genders. Man and woman. Full stop

Wrong

What else is there?

Intersex. You can have male and female genitalia. You can have inverted testies and a vagina. You can have testicles and a womb. Also you can have people raised as males with a very high oestrogen levels and vice versa. “Sex” is not column that you stand in but more a sliding scale within which you place.

Kleinfelders(spelling) and intersex are genetic anomalies, so they aren't really the same thing tbh

Someone born without arms, isn't the same as someone who cuts his/her arms off, even though the end result is the same, both have no arms "

So, genetic abnormalities or not there’s more than two genders yeah? And we’re just gonna, for the sake of convenience, ignore how our societal construct has us believe that only 2 exist? Cool

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

It's perfectly reasonable to be fearful of potential predators looking to exploit children."

Wary, yes.

But instinct tells me a male seeking to prey on children will find less difficult ways to sate their desire than going to the bother of dressing up as a woman, getting their legal status altered etc and choosing public toilets where the risk of discovery must be high.

It's all about finding a balance between the risk and the freedom.

It is already hidden in plain sight anyway - people in transition use the facilities designated for their acquired gender and have done for generations.

Statistically, the risk must be very small - multiply the probability of someone being transgender and the probability of someone being a peadophile. Neither makes up a huge number, as far as I know.

Then consider the desire not to be detected, arrested and imprisoned for their peadophile characteristic, and the probability of the scenario you describe in a public place becomes very very unlikely, I'd suggest.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong "

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

If someone wants to abuse little children in a toilet, sticker on the door isn’t going to stop them. "

It might help stop them, by not allowing such deviants into the spaces. That's common sense

If the sticker on the door is so unimportant, then why do TV/TS care which sticker is on toilet they use?

In guessing it's more important than your are trying to imply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Statistically she is more likely to be under threat from a person she knows or is related to and these days is way more in danger using the internet from paedophiles than a unisex toilet I'm afraid.

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush "

Like I said a unisex toilet in between men’s and ladies is ideal

My children don’t think all men are bad or rude strange thing to imply, I’ve bought my children up innocently so they have no knowledge of pervs/paedos until they’re older

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?"

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?"

LIKE I SAID my older boy has only been going into the gents more recently (he’s now 12) because he’s now old enough and too old for the ladies

Please read my comments if you’re going to reply to them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

"

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

It's perfectly reasonable to be fearful of potential predators looking to exploit children.

Wary, yes.

But instinct tells me a male seeking to prey on children will find less difficult ways to sate their desire than going to the bother of dressing up as a woman, getting their legal status altered etc and choosing public toilets where the risk of discovery must be high.

It's all about finding a balance between the risk and the freedom.

It is already hidden in plain sight anyway - people in transition use the facilities designated for their acquired gender and have done for generations.

Statistically, the risk must be very small - multiply the probability of someone being transgender and the probability of someone being a peadophile. Neither makes up a huge number, as far as I know.

Then consider the desire not to be detected, arrested and imprisoned for their peadophile characteristic, and the probability of the scenario you describe in a public place becomes very very unlikely, I'd suggest.

"

You keep taking things out of context Sara.

I'm happy to discuss, but let's both be fair.

Can you answer this,Do you lock you doors?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush

Like I said a unisex toilet in between men’s and ladies is ideal

My children don’t think all men are bad or rude strange thing to imply, I’ve bought my children up innocently so they have no knowledge of pervs/paedos until they’re older "

Oh so did I lol we never had a television etc but they grew up knowing being touched without permission was wrong in every way without having to be specific as to gender or paedophilia per se ... they also grew up with hobbies where everything was mixed and unisex is normal and usual, not thinking anyone is bad just what is wrong without details being necessary I suppose

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening "

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet .

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

You keep taking things out of context Sara.

I'm happy to discuss, but let's both be fair.

Can you answer this,Do you lock you doors?"

I'm offering my opinion, rather than challenging yours.

Yes, I lock the toilet door.

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By *urtyGentMan
over a year ago

eastleigh

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1035246030500061184.html?refreshed=1575391523

A thread that MAY help some of those at the back of the class to keep up with the rest of us. Now, I don’t always get my science from twitter but this may help some people’s understanding

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet . "

Really?

Google Jessica Yaniv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush

Like I said a unisex toilet in between men’s and ladies is ideal

My children don’t think all men are bad or rude strange thing to imply, I’ve bought my children up innocently so they have no knowledge of pervs/paedos until they’re older

Oh so did I lol we never had a television etc but they grew up knowing being touched without permission was wrong in every way without having to be specific as to gender or paedophilia per se ... they also grew up with hobbies where everything was mixed and unisex is normal and usual, not thinking anyone is bad just what is wrong without details being necessary I suppose "

What are you implying ?

My kids have hobbies, are growing up and grown up with a mixture of sexes ........ shockingly even lesbians and gays are around my kids

It’s not about genders or sexual orientation, it’s about protecting my children and as there’s more paedo’s with dicks than without I’d rather they didn’t share the toilet with my younger children

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

You keep taking things out of context Sara.

I'm happy to discuss, but let's both be fair.

Can you answer this,Do you lock you doors?

I'm offering my opinion, rather than challenging yours.

Yes, I lock the toilet door.

"

Just the toilet door?

I suspect you aren't being entirely forthcoming here.

Nvm

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By *ucilleWoman
over a year ago

Newcastle Upon Tyne


"

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush

Like I said a unisex toilet in between men’s and ladies is ideal

My children don’t think all men are bad or rude strange thing to imply, I’ve bought my children up innocently so they have no knowledge of pervs/paedos until they’re older

Oh so did I lol we never had a television etc but they grew up knowing being touched without permission was wrong in every way without having to be specific as to gender or paedophilia per se ... they also grew up with hobbies where everything was mixed and unisex is normal and usual, not thinking anyone is bad just what is wrong without details being necessary I suppose

What are you implying ?

My kids have hobbies, are growing up and grown up with a mixture of sexes ........ shockingly even lesbians and gays are around my kids

It’s not about genders or sexual orientation, it’s about protecting my children and as there’s more paedo’s with dicks than without I’d rather they didn’t share the toilet with my younger children "

What's your solution to the issue, in terms of which toilets trans people should use?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet . "

Really ? When I was 12 an assault happened to a 4yr old girl who was snatched and taken into public toilets........... 24 years later an almost identical incident happened only a few months ago. Both in the same shopping centre, there’s been more incidents than this but these 2 really stuck in my mind

It really does happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Bringing up children to think all men are bad or rude has it's own huge societal problems, much better bringing them up to be open minded individuals that understand the dangers but don't tar every man with the same brush

Like I said a unisex toilet in between men’s and ladies is ideal

My children don’t think all men are bad or rude strange thing to imply, I’ve bought my children up innocently so they have no knowledge of pervs/paedos until they’re older

Oh so did I lol we never had a television etc but they grew up knowing being touched without permission was wrong in every way without having to be specific as to gender or paedophilia per se ... they also grew up with hobbies where everything was mixed and unisex is normal and usual, not thinking anyone is bad just what is wrong without details being necessary I suppose

What are you implying ?

My kids have hobbies, are growing up and grown up with a mixture of sexes ........ shockingly even lesbians and gays are around my kids

It’s not about genders or sexual orientation, it’s about protecting my children and as there’s more paedo’s with dicks than without I’d rather they didn’t share the toilet with my younger children

What's your solution to the issue, in terms of which toilets trans people should use? "

Unisex toilets, which I’ve said already

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Ignore the transgender issue and ask yourself: "Could a man sneak into women's public loos and assault a woman or a girl."

What steps does society need to take to reduce this risk?

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet . "

As well as Jessica, there are several examples of this, including a male prisoner who identified as female to get moved into a female prison.

He/she r*ped his female cellmate on day one - her account is harrowing.

Yes its rare. But don't be silly,murder is rare,as are lots of crimes, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't take them seriously.

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Ignore the transgender issue and ask yourself: "Could a man sneak into women's public loos and assault a woman or a girl."

What steps does society need to take to reduce this risk?

"

Are you being serious?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet .

Really ? When I was 12 an assault happened to a 4yr old girl who was snatched and taken into public toilets........... 24 years later an almost identical incident happened only a few months ago. Both in the same shopping centre, there’s been more incidents than this but these 2 really stuck in my mind

It really does happen "

They sound like horrific cases but was the male culprit dressed as a women or identified as female at the time of the assault

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By *ordescourtMan
over a year ago

Warrington


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap .

Good for you.

I've been dealing with this since I was about 3 or 4. It's not like I chose to be like this.

I will be honest some trans activists make me cringe though. Stuff like you are transohobe if you wouldnt date a TGirl ect. The ridiculous amount of pronouns is also stupid. Think the issue as always is the vocal minority, most of just want to get on with our lives and try and be happy."

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet .

Really ? When I was 12 an assault happened to a 4yr old girl who was snatched and taken into public toilets........... 24 years later an almost identical incident happened only a few months ago. Both in the same shopping centre, there’s been more incidents than this but these 2 really stuck in my mind

It really does happen

They sound like horrific cases but was the male culprit dressed as a women or identified as female at the time of the assault "

I have pointed to some recent cases that show the "male culprit" who identified as female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I think allowing fully grown adults born with penises to enter toilets with young/little girls is asking for trouble

You do know this is happening today, and has been for decades?

Can you point to the trouble it has caused?

No, I'm not familiar with any - I did use the words "asking for"

But are you honestly suggesting you don't see the possible danger?

I’m with you on this, live n let live is definitely my moto but grown ups with dicks should not be using the same toilets as a 8yr old girl!

For instance..... Sat in mcd’s and a parent sends their 8yr old daughter to the ladies, old enough to go a pee alone but certainly shouldn’t be sharing those facilities with a person with a dick......... I hate to say it but you’ll get pervs/paedo’s just dressing to take advantage of this

Now that is offensive.

No it’s not offensive, how !?

it’s a well known FACT that there’s more male perv/paedo men than women and my boys get sent in the ladies. My 12 yr old boy has only been going in men’s for past yr, he’s now old enough to know about pervs and my 7yr old still goes in the ladies and will do until he is aware of pervs/paedos

Paedo’s/pervs will go to great lengths to be around children alone that is another fact! There’s nothing in my comment that’s offensive, set up a unisex toilet cubicle in between men’s and ladies but a grown up dick being in the ladies is wrong

So if most child offenders are male why are you happy to send him into the gents on his own?

It's about minimising the risks where possible, surely the child's right to safety should be seen as a priority.

Exactly, preventing anything from happening

It is every parents right to protect their children , however the risk in this case is minuscule . I havent read or heard of one case of a man dressing up as women to assault or perv on people in a female toilet .

Really ? When I was 12 an assault happened to a 4yr old girl who was snatched and taken into public toilets........... 24 years later an almost identical incident happened only a few months ago. Both in the same shopping centre, there’s been more incidents than this but these 2 really stuck in my mind

It really does happen

They sound like horrific cases but was the male culprit dressed as a women or identified as female at the time of the assault

I have pointed to some recent cases that show the "male culprit" who identified as female.

"

I hadn’t realised it was that common,

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Im all woman ,not one of these gender odd balls i embrace being a female and happy in my skin ,so fed up with all this gender crap ."

Now that's nasty

Do you think any of us who are not as the narrow minded would term not normal would be happy being considered an oddball for just being as we were born ?

Rude ignorant disrespectful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I need to get my transphobe bingo card out.... "

Think I'll join you.

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By *weety321Woman
over a year ago

nottingham

All this talk of toilets

There should be a unisex and family toilet as well as a disabled, male and female. If a male has a young daughter where is he taking her as I wouldn’t like the idea of a little girl or even boy going in a male or female area. The world’s a fucked up place so parents should be on guard at all times

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Theoretically you are right about toilets but I guess a lot of places don't see the issues. Maybe children could be taken by parents to the disabled toilet but that's not addressing a perceived problem.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I also think people are being disrespectful to transgender woman on this thread by suggesting paedophilia is rife in toilets. Getting like the US now with the paranoia they spout.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

I have heard of brake fluid. What is gender fluid ??

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

At the risk of sounding ageist I suggest you go back to your pipe and slippers. Lol

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"At the risk of sounding ageist I suggest you go back to your pipe and slippers. Lol"

Yes.....You are being "ageist". I asked a question and expected an answer. Simples !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People are talking about unisex toilets without actually knowing what they're talking about

The unisex toilets places are talking about putting in place are individual cubicles, you know like the toilet in your house, for anyone to use not group toilets like womens/mens.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I suggest that you Google it for a definition as you seem to be able to master the Internet.Your question seemed like a feeble attempt at humour.

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

Unisex toilets? What people are discussing are disabled toilets. Trans is not a disability.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Unisex toilets like you mention already exist but not widespread.I think it's a good idea and does away with smelly urinals.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"At the risk of sounding ageist I suggest you go back to your pipe and slippers. Lol"

I do use slippers when indoors but do not smoke a pipe (or cigars/cigarettes).

Asked the question but I am still none the wiser.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was referring to the People who have said that mixed toilets would encourage old men to r pe little girls

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Everyman cinema has unisex toilets with totally private cubicles with sinks in too.

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"Everyman cinema has unisex toilets with totally private cubicles with sinks in too. "

Two of my local Aldis have toilets which can be used by either sex i.e. men or women.

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By *.gerri.xTV/TS
over a year ago

North west visiting bpool

This is beyond a joke now

Ffs I've been dressing as a woman since I was a kid for only one reason and that's to satisfy my sani bin fetish .

It's sometimes fucking impossible to have some alone time with a sani bin an some lube and dressing all womanly like makes a it easier to sneak in than my first few attempts dressed as Dracula .

Normally great times that were only ever ruined by the sounds of a great big dump and rapid spraying of Charlie or some other fetid parfum from the other cubicle.

Now I have to worry people will think I'm some kid bothering paedophilic pansy as well .

FML

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By *weety321Woman
over a year ago

nottingham

It’s the biased comments and lack of respect for each other that’s not right. People so quick to judge when they have no understanding of the world we live in. It’s not nice to be singled out for being who you want to be! Treat people how you wish to be treated, if someone is nice to me then I’m going to be nice to them- simple!

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