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"I think these guys keep straight on their profile because some couples/woman are put off by bi men" Nail on the head | |||
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"We're not all strong and confident types ![]() I agree, that's why we don't meet guys on here unless they are prepared to take us out or meet at a club. We're not desperate or really bothered one way or the other as we enjoy ourselves mostly with couples anyway. ![]() | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. " Arent you a charmer | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer" A real catch ![]() | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer A real catch ![]() If he ever gets out of his bedroom and turns that cam off x | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" I get quite a lot too but I really don't mind what they label themselves as. If they're nice people and there's an attraction, I'm happy to explore and see where it leads to. XX | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer" To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one?" If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. " Am I the only one who found it offensive? | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one?" So you think all men that fuck TVs are desperate ? | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. Am I the only one who found it offensive? " Nope. The implication that we're all just guys in wigs and frocks shows a totally crass and ignorant attitude to the whole issue. | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. Am I the only one who found it offensive? " No your not, but some people just like to stir things up especially on this topic. Probably through being ignorant, bigoted and just argumentive. | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. Am I the only one who found it offensive? No your not, but some people just like to stir things up especially on this topic. Probably through being ignorant, bigoted and just argumentive." ![]() ![]() | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. " What he said. Not sure if they're desperate though as most have female partners or wives at home. More likely they just want to have sex with men but prefer if they look like a female….confused.com | |||
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"It never fails to amaze me that the so called swinging community in general has some small minded bigoted people who have some odd pre conceived ideas about us. When I am out in the real world I have never had problems." I think alot of it is attention seeking. Its always the same people hunni. All the nice girls are to busy having fun, they are not interested in causing offence. I think some blame us because they cant get a regular fella. I feel sorry for them really x | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. What he said. Not sure if they're desperate though as most have female partners or wives at home. More likely they just want to have sex with men but prefer if they look like a female….confused.com" For many this is true. They may be in denial with themselves. | |||
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"Well let's look at it another way ladies. If a straight guy messages you, Surely he is attracted to this strong, sensual, sexual womanly form he sees before him. Us Ladies are strong, confident and know what we want, kinda girls. We suck cock well and like anal just as much... Day to day. How many girlie girls do you know will do that or are like that. Even on Fab!!! The smart straight boys figure it out... Mistress Amelia x ![]() Oh God. *EYEROLL* You can express confidence and big up yourself without comparing to cisgender women and making assumptions we are prudish and won't do things t-girls WILL. Clearly this site should have demonstrated very DIFFERENT to you. | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" Some of it is probably denial that they might partial to a bit of penis now and again.Nothing wrong with that but just put bi on your profile and stop pretending to be straight. | |||
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"Still no actual arguments against what Young Guy said. " Because what he said isn't totally inaccurate lol. It IS the actually case for some. I've seen men do some mental gymnastics on the subject and it's about their own self-denial. It's 2018, being in the closet is so WACK. And I don't get TV/TS or anyone for that matter who enable people in the closet. Especially when they want all the fun/sex with you but clearly ashamed of you. | |||
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"Still no actual arguments against what Young Guy said. " Because I don't disagree that it's true in a lot of cases. My issue with that post is the way it comes across as a sweeping statement about all TV, TS, and guys who fancy us. | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer A real catch ![]() Pretty sad for a lad of his age. | |||
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"I think you can fuck t girls and be straight. End of the day you are a woman with a slight difference. End of!" It's called 'fab straight' ![]() | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" Some are clearly still in the closet, others are fab straight lol, a few are ashamed and the rest don't give a flying fcuk 'any holes a goal' type of person! If they can't be honest with themselves then don't go there ladies, be proud of who you are ![]() | |||
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"Well let's look at it another way ladies. If a straight guy messages you, Surely he is attracted to this strong, sensual, sexual womanly form he sees before him. Us Ladies are strong, confident and know what we want, kinda girls. We suck cock well and like anal just as much... Day to day. How many girlie girls do you know will do that or are like that. Even on Fab!!! The smart straight boys figure it out... Mistress Amelia x ![]() Hmmm, please stick your eyes back in their sockets, huney.. Oh and Religion has definitely got nothing to do with it either... | |||
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"Well let's look at it another way ladies. If a straight guy messages you, Surely he is attracted to this strong, sensual, sexual womanly form he sees before him. Us Ladies are strong, confident and know what we want, kinda girls. We suck cock well and like anal just as much... Day to day. How many girlie girls do you know will do that or are like that. Even on Fab!!! The smart straight boys figure it out... Mistress Amelia x ![]() Someone must not know how Eyerolls or comebacks work.I did NOTE no response to the meat of what I said about cisgender women. Wonder why that is. | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" By dressing aren't we the same as women? | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx By dressing aren't we the same as women?" No | |||
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"Still no actual arguments against what Young Guy said. Because I don't disagree that it's true in a lot of cases. My issue with that post is the way it comes across as a sweeping statement about all TV, TS, and guys who fancy us. " It didn't though as this whole thread is about the straight guys messaging t girls.... That's the ones he was talking about, not all guys that fuck t girls. | |||
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"Looked at simply, a person attracted to someone seemingly of the opposite gender may in full honesty only perceive attraction to this gender and not entertain that they are anything but heterosexual. There are guys in fab who have attraction and/or sex with other guys here but continue using straight as their label because they perceive they will meet more people that way, especially women. Sexual orientation is more nuanced and complex than many people suppose it to be, who usually just look at it from their own limited perspective. People are much more diverse than we want them to be , to keep our little guide to the world simple, like a young child's school book. Fab has filters and lots of choice, so that you can restrict your interaction just to those that you are comfortable with. " Your wise comment about sexual orientation has hit the nail on the head- more variations than tongue can tell. I read an article somewhere recently about this, absolutely fascinating, and explained a lot to me about myself! | |||
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"Definitely looking at all y’all who let Mistress Amelia say that sexist pretentious bullshit and didn’t call it out. But sure, ok, we’re supposed to be allies. " Don't see you calling out the offensive comments that say straight men only shag t-girls through desperation or that they're basically just men in wigs. It works both ways sweetie. You also realise blocking only stops you messaging someone, they can still see and reply to your posts on here if they wish. Why do you need to privately message someone regarding a forum post? Share it with the whole group ![]() | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx By dressing aren't we the same as women?" Err....not quite. There may be at least one difference and that may make all the difference. | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx By dressing aren't we the same as women?" No and that perception is why 'straight men' don't change their sexuality to bi or bi-curious! If everyone is honest on their profiles and in real life then they're more likely to meet people that are suited to them and have better fun xx | |||
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"Still no actual arguments against what Young Guy said. Because I don't disagree that it's true in a lot of cases. My issue with that post is the way it comes across as a sweeping statement about all TV, TS, and guys who fancy us. It didn't though as this whole thread is about the straight guys messaging t girls.... That's the ones he was talking about, not all guys that fuck t girls. " Because I don't disagree that it's true in a lot of cases. My issue with that post is the way it comes across as a sweeping statement about all TV, TS, and guys who consider themselves straight but message us. Better? | |||
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"They're desperate and use the dress and wig as an, excuse to deny the fact fact they have just fucked a guy. Arent you a charmer To be fair,he's not the only person to have made that claim. I'd be interested to read an actual argument against that view.Is there one? If he had started with "Some are..." It's the generalisation that got my back up. " I’d agree - though we all know that ‘some’ guys will shag just about any woman, tv or ts So they don’t have to use their wanking arm yet again! If the guys are hot enough - ‘some’ ladies/tv’s/ts’s will turn a blind eye and meet them even if they strongly suspect that they’re not really their type! Those of us who are here for bloody fantastic sex, rather than just sex, however, will converse long enough to make sure that the guy who messaged us is genuinely attracted to us, that there is a level of compatibility, and that there’s a great chance we’ll all come out smiling and jelly-legged - because that’s why we’re on fab! We all know that lots of guys are genuinely attracted to hot tv’s/ts’s though - and rightly so! Some of you are downright gorgeous! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Does it matter? If a guy shows interest in having sex with you, and you are interested in sex with guys, who cares what he calls himself. I mean, I doubt you even know his surname, or perhaps even his real first name, so why get hung up about how he labels his sexuality. It's a hook-up site, not a dating app. " You have an amazing figure my lovely! I’m green with envy! ![]() | |||
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"Does it matter? If a guy shows interest in having sex with you, and you are interested in sex with guys, who cares what he calls himself. I mean, I doubt you even know his surname, or perhaps even his real first name, so why get hung up about how he labels his sexuality. It's a hook-up site, not a dating app. You have an amazing figure my lovely! I’m green with envy! ![]() You are much too kind ![]() | |||
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"Does it matter? If a guy shows interest in having sex with you, and you are interested in sex with guys, who cares what he calls himself. I mean, I doubt you even know his surname, or perhaps even his real first name, so why get hung up about how he labels his sexuality. It's a hook-up site, not a dating app. You have an amazing figure my lovely! I’m green with envy! ![]() I agree - fabulous figure! ![]() | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" there not straight just not being honest with themselves ![]() | |||
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"i have seen tvs/tgirls have straight on their profile and they meet men and women" How very dare they! ![]() | |||
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"i have seen tvs/tgirls have straight on their profile and they meet men and women How very dare they! ![]() none of it bothers me, im just saying seen it all so people shouldnt care....nice bum btw | |||
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"If a so called str8 man wants to meet a TV when the footballs on does it really mean hes gay x" No, it just shows excellent taste and judgement ![]() | |||
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"labels shouldnt bother any one, if they fancy you they fancy you thats it" I agree. I hate labels. | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx By dressing aren't we the same as women? No and that perception is why 'straight men' don't change their sexuality to bi or bi-curious! If everyone is honest on their profiles and in real life then they're more likely to meet people that are suited to them and have better fun xx " Totally agree with this... ![]() | |||
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"Don’t like straight men? Bi or straight who cares. Don’t blame them. The site created feature button called block for a reason. Easy peasy. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Why shouldn't straight men message us. They message us as much or more than bi or bi curious men, and their wives and girlfriends do as well. Their not gay, their not bi, their straight. They are sexually attracted to women like us as well as genetically born women, and whether some people agree or not, whether they like it or not, the fact is, it doesn't change their sexual orientation to be with a transgender female. Straight, curious, bi, gay, it doesn't matter, it's all about who they are as a human being, that's what matters." So men with cocks playing with men with cocks are straight. Righteo. That closet door ain’t never going to be opened while people with you attitude keep denying the truth. Transgender - okay that’s different, but guys dressing with tackle still in tact nah | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" We hear this a lot from our Tgirl friends, also from some of our biguy friends as well, who get contacted but "straight" men. Stigma still exists. We have several "straight" male friends who we play with on occasions. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"This topic keeps coming up week after week and is never going to go away. Why because people are programmed into tribal mindsets. If only they could release the shackles that bind them." And people can't resist telling other people how they should define themselves. | |||
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"I think these guys keep straight on their profile because some couples/woman are put off by bi men" This ^^^ | |||
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"I take messages from straight guys as a compliment, means you look fem." I’d compliment the life out of you ![]() | |||
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"So i have been reading all the comments on this thread and i have to say it took me a while. I would have liked to answer to almost every comment that captured my attention but they are loads so i will just write a longer one trying to touch everything. First of all i want to say that this is a swinging website not a sex website. Swinging its a lifestyle, and i have to say i meet loads of nice people and we had a great time even without sex. So if you think everything it's about sex that is a problem from the start. Then i want to touch a point in which somebody said that tv's are not women. And yes we are not when it comes to a specific organ, but when it comes to the way we think and act we are as much of a women as a real one. The reason i dress it's not because i need attention and staff like this, because trust me i get load of attention as a guy and i have never had a problem meeting a girl or lack of confidence. The reason i do it its because i like feeling feminine and i like bringing the women out, either if it's for a social, sex or just a walk in the city. And now without being rude or anything there are some tv's that are hotter and better looking than some women's and that is the harsh reality. And to touch the closet bit, i quite understand people that are like that because i was once like that. But since i came out and told my girlfriend and my friends i realised that they don't give a crap. They don't care that i am bi or not. But again i totally get people being in the closet and i don't judge them by that. Plus to add one more thing when i showed photos of me as a girl to my girlfriend she was thinking i am cheating on her with me. So that was a big compliment to be honest hihihihi ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"So i have been reading all the comments on this thread and i have to say it took me a while. I would have liked to answer to almost every comment that captured my attention but they are loads so i will just write a longer one trying to touch everything. First of all i want to say that this is a swinging website not a sex website. Swinging its a lifestyle, and i have to say i meet loads of nice people and we had a great time even without sex. So if you think everything it's about sex that is a problem from the start. Then i want to touch a point in which somebody said that tv's are not women. And yes we are not when it comes to a specific organ, but when it comes to the way we think and act we are as much of a women as a real one. The reason i dress it's not because i need attention and staff like this, because trust me i get load of attention as a guy and i have never had a problem meeting a girl or lack of confidence. The reason i do it its because i like feeling feminine and i like bringing the women out, either if it's for a social, sex or just a walk in the city. And now without being rude or anything there are some tv's that are hotter and better looking than some women's and that is the harsh reality. And to touch the closet bit, i quite understand people that are like that because i was once like that. But since i came out and told my girlfriend and my friends i realised that they don't give a crap. They don't care that i am bi or not. But again i totally get people being in the closet and i don't judge them by that. Plus to add one more thing when i showed photos of me as a girl to my girlfriend she was thinking i am cheating on her with me. So that was a big compliment to be honest hihihihi ![]() I read that whole thing in your voice, and I must say, I prefer your accent to my own. | |||
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"Some guys are just ashamed to admit that they are attracted to t girls .... ha there little secret I sapose but if they are ashamed then u shouldn't meet you . There's no way I be seeing anyone that's ashamed to be seeing me " ![]() | |||
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"no shame in meeting tgirls" Of course theirs no shame in it, but anyone that is meeting for fun with people with the same anatomy (same sex as them regardless of how they dress) should be honest and true to themselves by having bi or bi curious on their profiles ![]() | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" Just because it says straight,doesn't mean they are | |||
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"no shame in meeting tgirls Of course theirs no shame in it, but anyone that is meeting for fun with people with the same anatomy (same sex as them regardless of how they dress) should be honest and true to themselves by having bi or bi curious on their profiles ![]() It’s not really that black and white though is it? I mean if a man can pass as an attractive woman and a guy only finds them attractive as the female persona? It’s a grey area I’d say | |||
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"no shame in meeting tgirls Of course theirs no shame in it, but anyone that is meeting for fun with people with the same anatomy (same sex as them regardless of how they dress) should be honest and true to themselves by having bi or bi curious on their profiles ![]() There's nothing black and white about being bi or bi curious, it's the grey area between being gay/lesbian and being straight! I'm bi and proud, I like a butch women and if I only ever went with butch women from this day forward I wouldn't suddenly say I'm straight just because that woman looks masculine, she still has a vag ![]() | |||
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"Any TVs in to watching stright guys wanking ? ![]() Yes, when I'm out with the girls we enjoy a good laugh | |||
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"I find it strange tthe amount of str8 men want to meet me. When it says on there profile there only interested in women ????? Xxx Suzy xxx" All the time this happens | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi " The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful" eh gay men are NEVER interested ![]() | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful" These men are about as Straight as a roundabout ![]() | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful These men are about as Straight as a roundabout ![]() Haha, straight my arse | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful These men are about as Straight as a roundabout ![]() It doesn't really matter, it's how they like to identify and most TVs aren't really bothered.If I can attract a guy who claims to be straight,then I must be doing something right in my attempts to feminise myself | |||
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"let people meet who they want to. fuck all to do with anyone else. mind your own business" omg thats the gayest thing ive heard today ![]() | |||
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"its Mainly straight men and women that message me very rarely gay men and some bi The more feminine a TV looks, the less likely a gay man will be interested.Its the nature of the beast! I mostly get straight/bi men messaging me about 80/20 ratio,I much prefer to meet straight men as they are more respectful These men are about as Straight as a roundabout ![]() Yeah I know and fair play but it's inaccurate. The Straight should be in quotes like "Straight". | |||
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"I love turning "straight" guys gay" To do that, you'd have to make straight guys attracted to guys? But you do a lot of work to look/feel/act female? | |||
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"I love turning "straight" guys gay To do that, you'd have to make straight guys attracted to guys? But you do a lot of work to look/feel/act female? " nah think loadsa guys like em | |||
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"let people meet who they want to. fuck all to do with anyone else. mind your own business omg thats the gayest thing ive heard today ![]() who do you see yourself ending up with lol | |||
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"let people meet who they want to. fuck all to do with anyone else. mind your own business omg thats the gayest thing ive heard today ![]() oh im sorted,,no thanks ![]() | |||
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