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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

The thing about this site is that there are some ladies who are simply stunning...almost model like...but question is

If you think they are out of your league should you even approach them....

I know it is subjective but do women ever like to deliberately bat below their percieved average...is that even a thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The worst that can happen is that they say no thanks. Just message them and see.

Nobody is out of your league. There's simply people who fancy you, and people who don't.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It’s just People. No batting, no league, no balls.....well, balls yes but no catching (phew!) no cheering, no jeering...

Think positively and just ask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The worst that can happen is that they say no thanks. Just message them and see.

Nobody is out of your league. There's simply people who fancy you, and people who don't."

Absolutely this.

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford


"The thing about this site is that there are some ladies who are simply stunning...almost model like...but question is

If you think they are out of your league should you even approach them....

I know it is subjective but do women ever like to deliberately bat below their percieved average...is that even a thing?"

Obviously a fella so wouldn’t dream of answering for a lady, but what makes you think they would ‘deliberately’ aim low??

Like the poster above mentioned, everyone is individual, will have their likes and dislikes, no two the same, what one hot girl will like, the next hot girl may not. And I think ladies are much more than just visual beings unlike the majority of fellas, they go beyond looks and appearances when they find someone attractive.

HG

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"The thing about this site is that there are some ladies who are simply stunning...almost model like...but question is

If you think they are out of your league should you even approach them....

I know it is subjective but do women ever like to deliberately bat below their percieved average...is that even a thing?"

People are attracted to who they're attracted to.

Putting people in leagues that you think you shouldn't approach is fairly insulting to those you do approach in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Crikey don't ever approach a woman on here that is even 'in' your league, let above above it. She'll go mental.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some ladies who are perceived by the majority as hot will like me. Some won't. The same as women in general really, no surprise there!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

What if they are in The League of Gentlemen? You’re my wife now.....

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

North of Okehampton, South of Bideford


"It’s just People. No batting, no league, no balls.....well, balls yes but no catching (phew!) no cheering, no jeering...

Think positively and just ask. "

Totally agree well said...We are all different in all shapes and sizes and all have different mindsets

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By *..TheCurvyPetrolHead...Woman
over a year ago

St Helens

I'm a sapio sexual. I find attraction and sexual attraction in the mind. Intelligence and personality for me before looks.

I dated and lived for 3 years with a wheelchair user. It's not looks; it's the person for me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I like to do my bit and deliver the odd pity fuck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I’ve always looked upon myself as a total stunner...a solid 10/10 so I’m no punching with anybody.....haha joke of course you like who you like in this workd

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's get real, logistically you are up against it.

However like people have said, send a message and just don't take it personally

Are you any less of a man or not as desirable. ...hell no

You just didn't jump out on a small profile pic. No one knows your good qualities

Also you may have that certain things that captures her attention. You may look like can old flame you remind her of. You could have a similar tattoo that she thinks is cool. You may just have that body type that she loves! !

Women are attracted to lots of different things so go forth and prosper.

You will suprise yourself

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"The thing about this site is that there are some ladies who are simply stunning...almost model like...but question is

If you think they are out of your league should you even approach them....

I know it is subjective but do women ever like to deliberately bat below their percieved average...is that even a thing?"

Not really. Studies have shown that men are more able to accurately judge their relative attractiveness whilst women, as a group, performed far worse (i.e. over-estimate).

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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

Ive had people say that im out of their league. This is before we have even spoken. For me pictures do not totally determine what i find attractive and for me there are no leagues

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By *oftandGentle2Couple
over a year ago

leeds

You never know until you try. Just ask them, you might be pleasantly surprised!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose?? "

Ha, it's a lot better that way isn't it? Just because the majority of Fab think "blokes message, women don't" doesn't mean it's the right way to do things at all, in fact the opposite I think?

I already know every lady's message box will be absolutely rammed which I know full well they hate! Therefore as a rule I usually hardly ever message anyone first, save them the hassle and make their hectic dealing with 400 odd messages a day easier so my not messaging them will actually be appreciated by them, even if it's only a small difference? Most meets I have get in touch with me first and it works better for all concerned?

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

You really dont have to be any model look a like to get sex now come on is this a serious question!! You only have to look at the kiss fuck threads never have I seen a man pass.

Sex is sex end of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You really dont have to be any model look a like to get sex now come on is this a serious question!! You only have to look at the kiss fuck threads never have I seen a man pass.

Sex is sex end of "

I think the OP may have been asking from a male perspective? It's obvious that women can bat higher on here, whatever that means, as they have far greater choice? But I think he was asking should men do the same?

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro


"You really dont have to be any model look a like to get sex now come on is this a serious question!! You only have to look at the kiss fuck threads never have I seen a man pass.

Sex is sex end of

I think the OP may have been asking from a male perspective? It's obvious that women can bat higher on here, whatever that means, as they have far greater choice? But I think he was asking should men do the same?"

Oh I do apologise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose??

Ha, it's a lot better that way isn't it? Just because the majority of Fab think "blokes message, women don't" doesn't mean it's the right way to do things at all, in fact the opposite I think?

I already know every lady's message box will be absolutely rammed which I know full well they hate! Therefore as a rule I usually hardly ever message anyone first, save them the hassle and make their hectic dealing with 400 odd messages a day easier so my not messaging them will actually be appreciated by them, even if it's only a small difference? Most meets I have get in touch with me first and it works better for all concerned?

"

To a point I agree... but then you might miss someone so in the OP’s case I wouldn’t not message someone because he thinks they are out of reach so to speak!! X

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By *rExplorerMan
over a year ago

Lynn

Beautiful women with the “I’m out of your league” attitude are clearly happy with their close knit circle that they talk / play with. Leave them to it.

Attraction is about chemistry. Looks and connection of the mind and tbh the connection wins every time. Need to acknowledge there are some outlying mingers on here, both male and female who may do better on a donkey sanctuary but if you ignore them it’s how people click that counts.

Don’t sweat the ignorant rejections / blanks from people that think they are worth a better shag partner. Focus on the connection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose??

Ha, it's a lot better that way isn't it? Just because the majority of Fab think "blokes message, women don't" doesn't mean it's the right way to do things at all, in fact the opposite I think?

I already know every lady's message box will be absolutely rammed which I know full well they hate! Therefore as a rule I usually hardly ever message anyone first, save them the hassle and make their hectic dealing with 400 odd messages a day easier so my not messaging them will actually be appreciated by them, even if it's only a small difference? Most meets I have get in touch with me first and it works better for all concerned?

To a point I agree... but then you might miss someone so in the OP’s case I wouldn’t not message someone because he thinks they are out of reach so to speak!! X"

Oh I'd agree that this silly "league" bobbins shouldn't be a stumbling block! Besides which there's so many ways that someone can be a thoroughly delicious bed (or elsewhere! ) partner aside from the obvious "generic appeal to many" looks, such as intelligence, naughtiness, drive, imagination and sense of adventure which I prioritise very highly?

I merely meant that were the men to stop messaging women and the women to do the chasing they'd probably find the site much more fun! And it's a method I mainly adhere to anyway, and both myself and the ladies who contact me instead have a whale of a time using it too, so it does work!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've met a number of women who wouldn't look twice at me normally but in fab world I've got a chance? Isn't it more about making a connection on fab?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose??

Ha, it's a lot better that way isn't it? Just because the majority of Fab think "blokes message, women don't" doesn't mean it's the right way to do things at all, in fact the opposite I think?

I already know every lady's message box will be absolutely rammed which I know full well they hate! Therefore as a rule I usually hardly ever message anyone first, save them the hassle and make their hectic dealing with 400 odd messages a day easier so my not messaging them will actually be appreciated by them, even if it's only a small difference? Most meets I have get in touch with me first and it works better for all concerned?

To a point I agree... but then you might miss someone so in the OP’s case I wouldn’t not message someone because he thinks they are out of reach so to speak!! X

Oh I'd agree that this silly "league" bobbins shouldn't be a stumbling block! Besides which there's so many ways that someone can be a thoroughly delicious bed (or elsewhere! ) partner aside from the obvious "generic appeal to many" looks, such as intelligence, naughtiness, drive, imagination and sense of adventure which I prioritise very highly?

I merely meant that were the men to stop messaging women and the women to do the chasing they'd probably find the site much more fun! And it's a method I mainly adhere to anyway, and both myself and the ladies who contact me instead have a whale of a time using it too, so it does work! "

**sending message as you read this!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Beautiful women with the “I’m out of your league” attitude are clearly happy with their close knit circle that they talk / play with. Leave them to it.

Attraction is about chemistry. Looks and connection of the mind and tbh the connection wins every time. Need to acknowledge there are some outlying mingers on here, both male and female who may do better on a donkey sanctuary but if you ignore them it’s how people click that counts.

Don’t sweat the ignorant rejections / blanks from people that think they are worth a better shag partner. Focus on the connection.

"

Absolutely agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just swing for the fences hoping for a home run

Im almost always punching

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a sapio sexual. I find attraction and sexual attraction in the mind. Intelligence and personality for me before looks.

I dated and lived for 3 years with a wheelchair user. It's not looks; it's the person for me!

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do people have to think someone is out of their league!!! I think it’s awful that we do!! There is one person who I chat too who I thought that... but I thought sod it and still messaged him!! In fact I’ve mostly messaged all the guys first who I’ve either met or message on a regular basis!!

Send a message... what have you got to loose??

Ha, it's a lot better that way isn't it? Just because the majority of Fab think "blokes message, women don't" doesn't mean it's the right way to do things at all, in fact the opposite I think?

I already know every lady's message box will be absolutely rammed which I know full well they hate! Therefore as a rule I usually hardly ever message anyone first, save them the hassle and make their hectic dealing with 400 odd messages a day easier so my not messaging them will actually be appreciated by them, even if it's only a small difference? Most meets I have get in touch with me first and it works better for all concerned?

To a point I agree... but then you might miss someone so in the OP’s case I wouldn’t not message someone because he thinks they are out of reach so to speak!! X

Oh I'd agree that this silly "league" bobbins shouldn't be a stumbling block! Besides which there's so many ways that someone can be a thoroughly delicious bed (or elsewhere! ) partner aside from the obvious "generic appeal to many" looks, such as intelligence, naughtiness, drive, imagination and sense of adventure which I prioritise very highly?

I merely meant that were the men to stop messaging women and the women to do the chasing they'd probably find the site much more fun! And it's a method I mainly adhere to anyway, and both myself and the ladies who contact me instead have a whale of a time using it too, so it does work!

**sending message as you read this!! "

So I see...and I have duly sent a reply too... x

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By *oftandGentle2Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Beautiful women with the “I’m out of your league” attitude are clearly happy with their close knit circle that they talk / play with. Leave them to it.

Attraction is about chemistry. Looks and connection of the mind and tbh the connection wins every time. Need to acknowledge there are some outlying mingers on here, both male and female who may do better on a donkey sanctuary but if you ignore them it’s how people click that counts.

Don’t sweat the ignorant rejections / blanks from people that think they are worth a better shag partner. Focus on the connection.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahhh just brave it lovely. I'm a wuss, so wouldn't haha. But do as I say and not as I do . You never know unless you try .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Met all sorts off this site and all very different.

I wasn't aware there was a league table

good job really id hate to miss out . lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahhh just brave it lovely. I'm a wuss, so wouldn't haha. But do as I say and not as I do . You never know unless you try . "

I’m with you; I’m a wuss. I question why they contact me! Some people are just better at the Fab game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahhh just brave it lovely. I'm a wuss, so wouldn't haha. But do as I say and not as I do . You never know unless you try .

I’m with you; I’m a wuss. I question why they contact me! Some people are just better at the Fab game. "

I'm guessing because of your pictures! Simply stunning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can contact me, I’m not out of anyone’s league

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahhh just brave it lovely. I'm a wuss, so wouldn't haha. But do as I say and not as I do . You never know unless you try .

I’m with you; I’m a wuss. I question why they contact me! Some people are just better at the Fab game.

I'm guessing because of your pictures! Simply stunning "

your photos are lush

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't ask you don't get. We all have our own tastes but I've never subscribed to the notion of leagues and such.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ahhh just brave it lovely. I'm a wuss, so wouldn't haha. But do as I say and not as I do . You never know unless you try .

I’m with you; I’m a wuss. I question why they contact me! Some people are just better at the Fab game.

I'm guessing because of your pictures! Simply stunning

your photos are lush "

I will take that as a huge compliment, coming from your lovely self

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We all have a sex drive. Even the most beautiful people need sex and some need naughty sex just like me and don't get all hung up about it.

If you're lucky you'll come across them from time to time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What have you got to loose. If you fancy someone; message them!!

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By *ig Chris75Man
over a year ago

Sandbach

What do you have to lose...? A bit of pride if they delete it straight away..? Who cares...?

Go for it... you don't get if you don't ask.....

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

As has already been quite clearly stated in this thread it all ultimately comes down to attraction of one form or another, whether that be physical, mental or a mixture of both and to suggest that someone doesn't know who they are attracted to (which is effectively what thinking someone is "out of your league" is doing) is not crediting them with the ability to decide for themselves.

Sure there are some people I find more attractive than others, some of whom there's an immediate physical attraction to but then later find there's not a mental connection, and others who aren't immediately physically attractive to me who I've later got to know better and have been attracted to them because of it.

There simply is no rhyme or reason or league to attraction it just is

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

As has already been quite clearly stated in this thread it all ultimately comes down to attraction of one form or another, whether that be physical, mental or a mixture of both and to suggest that someone doesn't know who they are attracted to (which is effectively what thinking someone is "out of your league" is doing) is not crediting them with the ability to decide for themselves.

Sure there are some people I find more attractive than others, some of whom there's an immediate physical attraction to but then later find there's not a mental connection, and others who aren't immediately physically attractive to me who I've later got to know better and have been attracted to them because of it.

There simply is no rhyme or reason or league to attraction it just is "

No you're not alone I mentioned earlier that it's insulting to the people you do contact, its like saying there are people better than you but they are unlikely to meet me so you'll do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The thing about this site is that there are some ladies who are simply stunning...almost model like...but question is

If you think they are out of your league should you even approach them....

I know it is subjective but do women ever like to deliberately bat below their percieved average...is that even a thing?"

Please don’t let pictures on the internet fool you... some people are just very photogenic....

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

"

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A nice face and body can be ruined by a horrible attitude.

Personality and sense of humour can be just as attractive and affective.

I'm proof. If it were down to just lucks I'd be knackered.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts. "

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all."

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What have you got to loose. If you fancy someone; message them!!"

Nailed it

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro


"A nice face and body can be ruined by a horrible attitude.

Personality and sense of humour can be just as attractive and affective.

I'm proof. If it were down to just lucks I'd be knackered. "

Im not sure Im getting this!

Because if someone has a great personally you like there humour get on really well etc you still must fancy or be attracted to them physically (face/body or both) or are you saying this is not the case.

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

It's a very useful tool for practising and dealing with rejection, after all it's going to happen to us all.

So message them,perhaps it may even be a yes!

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By *aeriequeenWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

You could charm your way into their pants..that's what I always try and do

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

So as OP thoughts I'd respond to the many and varied responses.

Firstly to say - the concept of leagues. I wasn't meaning absolutely literally - more as a concept to explain that there are the beautiful people and then there are the normal lookimg people and then there are less physically attractive people....it is all relative....so my categorisations will be different to yours. To be clear I am not saying my judgements are better than yours merely acknowledging that we all judge in some way.

With that out of the way....although it was very nice I was not fishing for motivation to message the said people....but i love and apprecaited the care and love shown by those that told me to be brave.

As I get a little older and a little wiser it is totally clwar that looks play a much bigger patt in initial selection that some people want to admit...seems fair enough to me as you need an attraction beyond personality to fully enjoy everything that a meet has to offer...that said you also need to get on.

I think my question was answered in that one person acknowledged that occasionally they 'lower' their standards.

I know often very pretty people have issues being approached as people sometimes judge them as much as the less pretty people

Make sense?

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

Interesting thread though

Also intersting to note, to answer the question means you need to consider yourself A league and most people dont like to be so conceited...so have to say pit thay aside...we are all beautiful and A league...so and this is to the ladies..would you spend the time getting to know someone and/or even fuck them if you didnt find them attractive initially

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By *ocketman20Man
over a year ago

Douglas

I’ve had sex with some stunning women who I always thought I had no chance with. Turns out they thought the same about me! No way do I think of myself as anything more than average but some people do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Interesting thread though

Also intersting to note, to answer the question means you need to consider yourself A league and most people dont like to be so conceited...so have to say pit thay aside...we are all beautiful and A league...so and this is to the ladies..would you spend the time getting to know someone and/or even fuck them if you didnt find them attractive initially"

No. Attraction for me is instant or not at all. But I daresay not everyone is as shallow as I am

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much? "

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

At last some honesty...and I applaud you for that....however has/can anyone grow on you - ie ever been with someonw who would have been a no but became a yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you're this high up in the league it's a constant problem that I'm lowering my standards. I never scrape the bottom of the barrel though

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over a year ago

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

So hope for us all...question is how low can you go...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At last some honesty...and I applaud you for that....however has/can anyone grow on you - ie ever been with someonw who would have been a no but became a yes"

If that was aimed at me - no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good thread debate OP. (With punctuation now )

Contextually finding someone physically attractive is one thing - most of us have a way of visually relating what we find stimulating. Sometimes, as equally as physical attraction, someone’s personality may be so engaging it can be equally intimidating. However, even though someone isn’t ‘ones type’, the situation - the sexiness of the play - can negate all preconceptions.

I have played with people in clubs and had some of the sexiest experiences of my life with people I wouldn’t have ordinarily gone for. Like wise I have played in situations with incredibly sexy people I wouldn’t have been confident to approach normally and had equally good times. It works the other way too. Sometimes been enticed by the physical beauty but there was no spark in the conversation. No playfulness. And that is as big a turn off.

I think what I have learned from swinging is that everyone has something different to offer. Sexiness lives in all forms and and people’s motivation and what *they* are looking for, for them - their turn-ons and desires. Are as much a turn on for me as my own.

Beauty is often beyond just the eye of the beholder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I spoke to a woman on here who says that she needed a break from here. That this site gave her false confidence and in fact arrogance. She would only speak to people with 6 packs, gorgeous etc but in the real world she couldnt get someone like that for a relationship.

On this site you can shoot above what you normally would, particularly if you're a woman due to the male/female ratio.

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are lots of women that I think are way out of my league yet I don't class myself as ugly but some are on another level who id love to meet but I won't message them because I'm not that keen on rejection lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I spoke to a woman on here who says that she needed a break from here. That this site gave her false confidence and in fact arrogance. She would only speak to people with 6 packs, gorgeous etc but in the real world she couldnt get someone like that for a relationship.

On this site you can shoot above what you normally would, particularly if you're a woman due to the male/female ratio. "

Bullseye!!

A lady not afraid to say this about fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aim for the stars, you might go through the fucking roof!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway "

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a less attractive man would treat me better! I've only ever gone for extreme facial attractiveness and of course those guys are on many other women's radars so they won't make as much effort or be as forgiving of my faults.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

"

Men know they’re own ranking better than women, how did you come to that conclusion ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A nice face and body can be ruined by a horrible attitude.

Personality and sense of humour can be just as attractive and affective.

I'm proof. If it were down to just lucks I'd be knackered. "

Or spelling

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

Men know they’re own ranking better than women, how did you come to that conclusion ?"

By reading the papers that studied it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think a less attractive man would treat me better! I've only ever gone for extreme facial attractiveness and of course those guys are on many other women's radars so they won't make as much effort or be as forgiving of my faults. "

Basically good looking guys are shits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

"

You maybe short like me pal but looking at your Mrs it doesn't look like you would struggle to get attractive women to be interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone ever been contacted by someone very attractive and thought "what the hell they messaging me for?"

Then You remember it's a sex site and he was wanting sex, so probably lowering their standards by making contact.

I have had messages from men who wouldn't give me a second look in a normal social setting.

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

So have you even tried a less facially attractive man with a top personality...even just to test your theory..or stuck with rude beautiful men?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

You maybe short like me pal but looking at your Mrs it doesn't look like you would struggle to get attractive women to be interested "

Well that was the "all other things being equal" qualifier. Visuals and physical features are less important to women, than men (on average).

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People aren't all performing in the ways that we assume that they are - we find different things attractive to society's norms. We also want different things from a sex partner than we often do with a long term partner too. Being here offers us choice to explore and to have variety - I think we probably look for more variety than the regular world, to keep things interesting and to satisfy our desires for exploring different things.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has anyone ever been contacted by someone very attractive and thought "what the hell they messaging me for?"

Then You remember it's a sex site and he was wanting sex, so probably lowering their standards by making contact.

I have had messages from men who wouldn't give me a second look in a normal social setting.

"

You have a beautiful face and a cool T shirt, so I don’t see why not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think a less attractive man would treat me better! I've only ever gone for extreme facial attractiveness and of course those guys are on many other women's radars so they won't make as much effort or be as forgiving of my faults.

Basically good looking guys are shits."

What makes a guy good looking?

What one person may find attractive, I may not. I don’t go for ‘conventionally’ good looking people. I like a little quirkiness to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts.

Statistical facts such as? I'm genuinely curious because as far as I'm concerned there can be no statistics involved in attraction it simply is what it is, you either are or you aren't without there being any kind of league system at all.

So shall we make a bet then? How much do you want to bet that i can't produce a published study that shows good consensus around what people do and don't find attractive?

If there are "no statistics" then the results of showing people pictures and asking them to rate them, would be random or correlations at or below chance. Do you want to bet that i can't find a study with significantly better correlations than chance? How much?

It's not about betting anything though, I was simply asking you to back up your comment about "People who deny statistical fact" with some of those facts or at least a reasoning because I am genuinely interested in what you say.

I don't deny that not everyone is for everyone and never have - all I have said is that I find the concept of someone being out of someones league a little insulting in both directions and that attraction is subjective so there can't be any concept of leagues anyway

As i say, there's consensus around what is and isn't attractive. So it's more objective than it is subjective. Although men are better at understanding their own relative ranking, than women (on average).

I'm shorter than the average male. Women, on average, find taller men attractive. All other things being equal, that would put some women out of my league. It's a statement of statistical fact. I'm not upset or insulted by it.

Men know they’re own ranking better than women, how did you come to that conclusion ?

By reading the papers that studied it"

Sunday Sport ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I spoke to a woman on here who says that she needed a break from here. That this site gave her false confidence and in fact arrogance. She would only speak to people with 6 packs, gorgeous etc but in the real world she couldnt get someone like that for a relationship.

On this site you can shoot above what you normally would, particularly if you're a woman due to the male/female ratio.

Bullseye!!

A lady not afraid to say this about fab "

Disagree. I'm confident/arrogant in the real world too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A nice face and body can be ruined by a horrible attitude.

Personality and sense of humour can be just as attractive and affective.

I'm proof. If it were down to just lucks I'd be knackered.

Or spelling "

I dunno, i think its naive in the vast majority of cases to believe the 'its personality that does it for me' story.

We see it on profiles a lot, women (men too) who really try hard to come across as what they perceive to be classy, by stating its the mind that wins the day etc.

The reality is, a lot of women can aim way higher than usual on here looks wise as its a sex site. It isnt a dating site and as much as some people try to make it so, it aint gonna be. It can be quite psychologically damaging for those who leave the site and try and get a relationship, as they look for things like muscles etc rather than relationship qualities.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Has anyone ever been contacted by someone very attractive and thought "what the hell they messaging me for?"

Then You remember it's a sex site and he was wanting sex, so probably lowering their standards by making contact.

I have had messages from men who wouldn't give me a second look in a normal social setting.

"

It's no different to a couple, where the women wouldn't look at me twice if her husband wasn't getting to fuck my wife. Some people won't care about this if they are just looking for a one time bonk. Some do. Personally i do though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe if you think someone is out of your league you already have no chance.

Confidence is key

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has anyone ever been contacted by someone very attractive and thought "what the hell they messaging me for?"

Then You remember it's a sex site and he was wanting sex, so probably lowering their standards by making contact.

I have had messages from men who wouldn't give me a second look in a normal social setting.

"

I can see why they would...looking at your profile you say your large/fat that wouldn't bother me as you've got a very attractive face and really nice eyes..that is more important to me x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"People aren't all performing in the ways that we assume that they are - we find different things attractive to society's norms. We also want different things from a sex partner than we often do with a long term partner too. Being here offers us choice to explore and to have variety - I think we probably look for more variety than the regular world, to keep things interesting and to satisfy our desires for exploring different things. "

To conclude - don't be inhibited from making contact because of your assumptions about what others want because you are probably basing your thinking based on either under-valuing yourself or putting others on pedestals they don't want to be on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A nice face and body can be ruined by a horrible attitude.

Personality and sense of humour can be just as attractive and affective.

I'm proof. If it were down to just lucks I'd be knackered.

Or spelling

I dunno, i think its naive in the vast majority of cases to believe the 'its personality that does it for me' story.

We see it on profiles a lot, women (men too) who really try hard to come across as what they perceive to be classy, by stating its the mind that wins the day etc.

The reality is, a lot of women can aim way higher than usual on here looks wise as its a sex site. It isnt a dating site and as much as some people try to make it so, it aint gonna be. It can be quite psychologically damaging for those who leave the site and try and get a relationship, as they look for things like muscles etc rather than relationship qualities. "

I’m not using this as a sex site so I guess I just go for my usual type I would go for in the real world and that’s a nerdy brainiac.

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

Sophie...good summary

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By *ndebs47Couple
over a year ago

Bury

Mr Here ..... I am living proof that there is no such thing as “out of my league” stop being silly xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously though...This topic of conversation always baffles me.

I don't understand why so many of you see it as a bad thing that people go for other people that they find physically attractive. To me, part of swinging is acting out fantasies. And for that to work I'm not going to waste time with people I don't find physically attractive to start off with. So what if that means I only meet those that i perceive are as attractive or (heaven forbid) more attractive than myself? Obviously not everyone is here for the same reasons I am, but I don't feel the need to question why they meet (in my eyes) less attractive people with cracking personalities. I just acknowledge that they are looking for different things.

I don't see it in terms of leagues though just those that I find attractive and those that I don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id agree that people, particularly women due to the ratio, could get their head in a spin with all the Compliments and therefore demand perfection from a man. But as said before its a sex site, men say things to get you to let them put their penis in you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Id agree that people, particularly women due to the ratio, could get their head in a spin with all the Compliments and therefore demand perfection from a man. But as said before its a sex site, men say things to get you to let them put their penis in you "

Great bum that's all I'm going to say x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Id agree that people, particularly women due to the ratio, could get their head in a spin with all the Compliments and therefore demand perfection from a man. But as said before its a sex site, men say things to get you to let them put their penis in you

Great bum that's all I'm going to say x"

Do you want to put your penis in it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've found money makes you more attractive to women, not sure why!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id love to if I wasn't so much out of your league haha x

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


" Seriously though...This topic of conversation always baffles me.

I don't understand why so many of you see it as a bad thing that people go for other people that they find physically attractive. "

It's a trait of vulnerable narcissism...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've found money makes you more attractive to women, not sure why!! "

If you dont have a 6 pack, you better be loaded, or id find your personality unattractive...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t even make it into the lower reaches of the sexual equivalent of the Isthmian League

#IndubitablyUnfuckable

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey


"I've found money makes you more attractive to women, not sure why!!

If you dont have a 6 pack, you better be loaded, or id find your personality unattractive... "

Does that mean I can put my penis in your bum? No 6 pack (more of a barrel).....Loaded? (I have a spare £20 and am not afraid to spend it).....top personality though..proper Premier League...so please can I?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've found money makes you more attractive to women, not sure why!!

If you dont have a 6 pack, you better be loaded, or id find your personality unattractive...

Does that mean I can put my penis in your bum? No 6 pack (more of a barrel).....Loaded? (I have a spare £20 and am not afraid to spend it).....top personality though..proper Premier League...so please can I? "

Don't see why not

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

Am on way.....how would you like me to spend the £20 - want to really really impress you to the point of blinding you...happy to take you to B&M Bargains to buy you whatever you want?

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By *hunderstruckMan
over a year ago

Northampton

I get more action/ interaction in the real world where people don’t judge by looks alone . You can’t put everything about you down in a few words on a profile page .

In my day to day work I meet the the full spectrum of people . All classes and ages . All shapes and sizes

I like the chatty fun types. If there’s fun and laughter you can’t go wrong .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to be able to have fun with someone to want to have fun with them if that makes sense? If they're dull, stupid and unimaginative then I wouldn't be having fun with them no matter what they looked like?

It is a fact of life though that in different situations many of both sexes tend to aim differently with regard to what is perceived to be mainstream attractive in different situations? That's what I've found from observing people anyway. Not all, but I'd say more than not.

Websites are the more extreme versions of this.

Say for example;

Fab - Women aim for the moon. They're in much shorter supply and as such can be very choosy. Which stands to reason. It's also why a lot of women (and some freely state it to be fair) are lookimg for a life partner on here.

Pulling at a club - Women aim slightly higher than men. Obviously depending on alcohol consumed etc though ha!

Looking for a LTR in the real world - Women aim slightly lower than men.

Dating site - Men aim for the moon as they're the gold on these sites, the commodity that women all fight over. Women aim way low with looks etc due to the fact most men can take or leave a LTR whereas ladies want it above all else, especially when the biological clock begins to chime... It's also why a lot of men just use dating sites for sex as the ratios are flipped?

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

Here is your solution go out there and shag the most gorgeous stunning looking woman that you think she's out of your league and all that anxiety will be out of your system. The next time you see a woman you use to think out of my league you will wonder why you thought so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I receive messages from people saying that I'm way out of their league so they know I won't reply.

That's just daft.

I'm a very normal down to earth girl and definetly no model looks here, yet men form an opinion before even chatting with me.

People should message those who appeal to them instead of forming pre concepted ideas of someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to be able to have fun with someone to want to have fun with them if that makes sense? If they're dull, stupid and unimaginative then I wouldn't be having fun with them no matter what they looked like?

It is a fact of life though that in different situations many of both sexes tend to aim differently with regard to what is perceived to be mainstream attractive in different situations? That's what I've found from observing people anyway. Not all, but I'd say more than not.

Websites are the more extreme versions of this.

Say for example;

Fab - Women aim for the moon. They're in much shorter supply and as such can be very choosy. Which stands to reason. It's also why a lot of women (and some freely state it to be fair) are lookimg for a life partner on here.

Pulling at a club - Women aim slightly higher than men. Obviously depending on alcohol consumed etc though ha!

Looking for a LTR in the real world - Women aim slightly lower than men.

Dating site - Men aim for the moon as they're the gold on these sites, the commodity that women all fight over. Women aim way low with looks etc due to the fact most men can take or leave a LTR whereas ladies want it above all else, especially when the biological clock begins to chime... It's also why a lot of men just use dating sites for sex as the ratios are flipped?"

Interesting examples, but I don’t follow that.

Dating/LTR - aim high. I’m spending my precious time with him, he better be an all rounder!

Club - I’m looking for people who swing. Lots of the guys who have the discussed 6-packs don’t play in clubs so aren’t for me. I go for experience, verified guys/couple who have banter, and there’s a naughty chemistry.

Fab - I don’t. Many single men here don’t swing so I pass couples - I prefer to come across in the club as attraction is more challenging when there’s two!

Regarding leagues: there’s always going to be better looking people but it doesn’t mean they are attractive. Physical Attraction alone doesn’t mean chemistry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have to be able to have fun with someone to want to have fun with them if that makes sense? If they're dull, stupid and unimaginative then I wouldn't be having fun with them no matter what they looked like?

It is a fact of life though that in different situations many of both sexes tend to aim differently with regard to what is perceived to be mainstream attractive in different situations? That's what I've found from observing people anyway. Not all, but I'd say more than not.

Websites are the more extreme versions of this.

Say for example;

Fab - Women aim for the moon. They're in much shorter supply and as such can be very choosy. Which stands to reason. It's also why a lot of women (and some freely state it to be fair) are lookimg for a life partner on here.

Pulling at a club - Women aim slightly higher than men. Obviously depending on alcohol consumed etc though ha!

Looking for a LTR in the real world - Women aim slightly lower than men.

Dating site - Men aim for the moon as they're the gold on these sites, the commodity that women all fight over. Women aim way low with looks etc due to the fact most men can take or leave a LTR whereas ladies want it above all else, especially when the biological clock begins to chime... It's also why a lot of men just use dating sites for sex as the ratios are flipped?

Interesting examples, but I don’t follow that.

Dating/LTR - aim high. I’m spending my precious time with him, he better be an all rounder!

Club - I’m looking for people who swing. Lots of the guys who have the discussed 6-packs don’t play in clubs so aren’t for me. I go for experience, verified guys/couple who have banter, and there’s a naughty chemistry.

Fab - I don’t. Many single men here don’t swing so I pass couples - I prefer to come across in the club as attraction is more challenging when there’s two!

Regarding leagues: there’s always going to be better looking people but it doesn’t mean they are attractive. Physical Attraction alone doesn’t mean chemistry. "

I think you misunderstood me slightly, by clubs I meant vanilla clubs as in swingers clubs the ratios are the same as on Fab?

And Dating/LTR of course goes on far from looks, experience and sexual chemistry alone. It's understandable that ladies would look for an all-rounder, with ability to provide, good father material etc etc being qualities they're not bothered about in swinging, but if they looked for all these plus all the qualities they looked for in swinging and gorgeous looks then the pool of men left would be massively smaller. And when you consider that men aren't really fussed about seeking a LTR in general whereas women in general yearn for it then you'd be talking a tiny pool for a huge amount of women?

Therefore if the majority of ladies, not necessarily you, didn't lower their aim looks wise or in another area, especially as time passed, then the huge majority of ladies would never have long-lasting relationships?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always think I’m batting way above when I message someone that takes my fancy but if you don’t ask, you don’t get

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"Am I alone in actually finding it quite insulting to all categories of person that use the site to be thinking in terms of leagues at all?

No, there are lot's of snowflakes who agree with you. People who deny statistical facts. "
go on, get your facts out for the lads...

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

God yes

Used to only be able to get about 3.5 mtrs but now I have someone pushing me I can easily beat my average and get well over 4.5.

Depends on what type of swing of course.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The worst that can happen is that they say no thanks. Just message them and see.

Nobody is out of your league. There's simply people who fancy you, and people who don't."

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

It isn't a question of "leagues" but of tastes and predilections. I guess most of us are here to fulfill our sexual fantasies so there will almost certainly be someone that might surprise you by wanting exactly what you are offering.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a sapio sexual. I find attraction and sexual attraction in the mind. Intelligence and personality for me before looks.

I dated and lived for 3 years with a wheelchair user. It's not looks; it's the person for me!

"

this....its more whats on the inside and what you brig to the party, as it were, then how "hot" you look.

Mr's top 3 fanticy women are carol vorderman, ratchel riley & vemlma dinkly

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By *ustard_keen_uk OP   Man
over a year ago

Bermondsey

But does the desire of an erotic filled fantasy mean you might lower your own standsrds...I am thinking not unless that was part of the fantasy so to speak

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