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"Is it me going mental or people don’t care any more " Guess there has always been folk less bothered, see a lot of bare back threads, up to the individual tho, each to their own | |||
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"I always do it standing up so I’m ok. " Yes but you've to keep your socks on too just to be extra safe | |||
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"I think most people just lie.... Every swinger says they are clean and checked regularly... I did meet a couple once and the husband made me take a std/hiv test in there home before we played..... " Had he told you he would ask you to do the test? How did you feel about it? | |||
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"Even though we use condoms with others we still get tested every 3 month x" Same here, not taking any risks in that sense. | |||
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"Even though we use condoms with others we still get tested every 3 month x Same here, not taking any risks in that sense." Its not worth it xx | |||
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"I always do it standing up so I’m ok. Yes but you've to keep your socks on too just to be extra safe" I’ll remember that one. I’ve been wearing gloves cos the lady said ‘no glove no love’. | |||
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"Even though we use condoms with others we still get tested every 3 month x Same here, not taking any risks in that sense. Its not worth it xx" I completely agree with that it baffles me some time when I meet ladies on pof and they are reluctant using condoms which I say unless I wrap it I am not putting it in | |||
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"Even though we use condoms with others we still get tested every 3 month x Same here, not taking any risks in that sense. Its not worth it xx I completely agree with that it baffles me some time when I meet ladies on pof and they are reluctant using condoms which I say unless I wrap it I am not putting it in " x | |||
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"I think most people just lie.... Every swinger says they are clean and checked regularly... I did meet a couple once and the husband made me take a std/hiv test in there home before we played..... Had he told you he would ask you to do the test? How did you feel about it? " No he didn’t tell me before hand... they just invited me to their place with no expectation of sex. It was the wife’s first time. When he asked me ... I was taken back a little but in the moment I agreed. I can’t fault the guy for asking .. he is protecting his wife and himself. It was just something I never encountered before. | |||
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"I think most people just lie.... Every swinger says they are clean and checked regularly... I did meet a couple once and the husband made me take a std/hiv test in there home before we played..... Had he told you he would ask you to do the test? How did you feel about it? No he didn’t tell me before hand... they just invited me to their place with no expectation of sex. It was the wife’s first time. When he asked me ... I was taken back a little but in the moment I agreed. I can’t fault the guy for asking .. he is protecting his wife and himself. It was just something I never encountered before." I quite like it as an idea, the tests i found online were limited in scope though. I actually thought it was more useful as a filter, since riddled people aren't usually the most clued up on tests (hence why they end up riddled). But i think he should have shown more respect by telling you in advance. Or maybe it was just a matter or being organised. | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take?" I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. " They can give vaccine for hpv which makes you immune for 3 years | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. They can give vaccine for hpv which makes you immune for 3 years " I thought for this to be effective it was recommended that vaccinatio n was given before girls became sexually active. Do they give this to adults in your area? Is it free cos i know the vaccines cos £100 a go. | |||
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"Amazes me how many people say... my last partner got tested and he/she was clear so I must be too! " My ex said that to me when I asked when he was last tested “well yours came back negative so I must be ok” and this was from someone who’s a medical “professional” (and a complete c*nt ) | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. They can give vaccine for hpv which makes you immune for 3 years " They offer it in your area? I've only seen it for younger people, you can buy it privately but it wasn't guaranteed to work for over 30's | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take?" I get tested every 3 months, the works test for everything. Blood tests, oral & vaginal swabs. | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. " Here are the "standard 6': Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take?" All of them | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means?" ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? All of them" Where do you get tested? Private clinic? | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II " NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those " That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done?" Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those " Don't think they can test for herpes? That's a skin swab if there are blisters? | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those Don't think they can test for herpes? That's a skin swab if there are blisters? " This is what one kit provider says: Herpes Simplex I & II testing is conducted using a urine sample to detect infection from viral shedding of genital sores or symptoms. | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those Don't think they can test for herpes? That's a skin swab if there are blisters? This is what one kit provider says: Herpes Simplex I & II testing is conducted using a urine sample to detect infection from viral shedding of genital sores or symptoms." I asked at the clinic this week, they said they don't bother testing for herpes because most people would show positive (e.g. coldsores) rather than genitals looking like a radish patch | |||
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"Just interested to know from those who get tested on a regular basis what range of STDs are included in the tests you take? I'd answer if i could spell the fucking names. But put it this way, they don't test for HPV or Herpes so there's always that risk. Here are the "standard 6': Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means?" The standard 6 are not generally done for someone presenting at clinic with no symptoms. For someone without symptoms and/or contact you will usually get tested for: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea HIV Syphillis Via self swab for a woman or urine for a man and blood tests. It isn't standard practice to do throat and rectal swabs but swingers should ask for throat swabs Clinics can test for a multitude of STIs but will usually involve a more invasive test and examination as well as more bloods taken | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic" If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting " Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture | |||
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"... Inexcusable for anyone who’s sexually active with different people not to do this . What gets me more than anything is the amount of swingers who still think using condoms for fucking makes them safe !" | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture" I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year | |||
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" I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year " Must be an american thing. About 60% of couples we ask admit they have never been tested. | |||
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" I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Must be an american thing. About 60% of couples we ask admit they have never been tested. " Ok after they admit this..... do you block them? | |||
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" I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Must be an american thing. About 60% of couples we ask admit they have never been tested. Ok after they admit this..... do you block them?" No, of course people won't be honest with you if that's your attitude. We'd ask why they don't go and whether they are willing to go in future (i.e before we meet them). | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year " Twice a year isn't a lot. I think realistically every 12 weeks is far more sensible. I do mainly to ensure the pill I'm on is correct and to score free condoms as I'm allergic to latex and buying them can be pretty expensive | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Twice a year isn't a lot. I think realistically every 12 weeks is far more sensible. I do mainly to ensure the pill I'm on is correct and to score free condoms as I'm allergic to latex and buying them can be pretty expensive " Oh in America going to the doctor isn’t free.... I pay $25 every time I walk into my doctors office. My insurance will only pay a percentage of any test taken. If they deem it as being excessive like 2 full panel HIV/sti test in 1 calendar year. They will reject the doctors claim and I am stuck with paying 100% of the bill. If I go to a free clinic... they will ask for Identification and after finding out I have health insurance. They will put the claim through my insurance because the free clinic is for people without health insurance. So it’s much easy for people in the UK to be tested more frequently... it’s free | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Twice a year isn't a lot. I think realistically every 12 weeks is far more sensible. I do mainly to ensure the pill I'm on is correct and to score free condoms as I'm allergic to latex and buying them can be pretty expensive Oh in America going to the doctor isn’t free.... I pay $25 every time I walk into my doctors office. My insurance will only pay a percentage of any test taken. If they deem it as being excessive like 2 full panel HIV/sti test in 1 calendar year. They will reject the doctors claim and I am stuck with paying 100% of the bill. If I go to a free clinic... they will ask for Identification and after finding out I have health insurance. They will put the claim through my insurance because the free clinic is for people without health insurance. So it’s much easy for people in the UK to be tested more frequently... it’s free" Dentists are free and yet British people still have bad teeth, don't they | |||
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" But some tests seem to cover more or less. So when someone says they're regularly tested I'm really not sure what that means? ... And here's the long list: Chlamydia Gonorrhoea Trichomonas HIV (I, II, P24 antigen) Syphilis Hepatitis B Gardnerella Mycoplasma Ureaplasma Herpes Simplex Herpes Simplex II NHS Gum clinics are not testing for half of those That's what I was thinking ... so are people paying privately (about £250) to get this done? Porn stars are. Half of swingers aren't even going to the bloody NHS clinic If every swinger went ever 3 months and got tested the NHS would be bankrupt.... So I know most people are just bull shitting Really? Swinging is still very much a sub-culture I have yet to read or hear in 10 years of swinging... someone say “ I don’t know if I’m clean , but I want to have sex with you anyway “ 100% of the time the answer is “ I go and get tested every month - 3 months and I’m clean “ I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Twice a year isn't a lot. I think realistically every 12 weeks is far more sensible. I do mainly to ensure the pill I'm on is correct and to score free condoms as I'm allergic to latex and buying them can be pretty expensive Oh in America going to the doctor isn’t free.... I pay $25 every time I walk into my doctors office. My insurance will only pay a percentage of any test taken. If they deem it as being excessive like 2 full panel HIV/sti test in 1 calendar year. They will reject the doctors claim and I am stuck with paying 100% of the bill. If I go to a free clinic... they will ask for Identification and after finding out I have health insurance. They will put the claim through my insurance because the free clinic is for people without health insurance. So it’s much easy for people in the UK to be tested more frequently... it’s free Dentists are free and yet British people still have bad teeth, don't they " Not really.... the Brit’s I work with have perfect teeth.... but don’t go out to meal with them and have them pay. They don’t tip the staff enough . We are big tippers in the USA | |||
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" I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year " Do you mean screenshots of texts from your phone? Not sure why people would trust them as they are anonymous and don't give details as to even say they relate to STI tests. | |||
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" I keep pictures in a folder on my phone of all my test results. Going back the last three years. I get tested twice a year Do you mean screenshots of texts from your phone? Not sure why people would trust them as they are anonymous and don't give details as to even say they relate to STI tests." Screenshots | |||
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"Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid . You are only clear from the day of the test results . " Sorry but that's factually incorrect. You're in a 0 or 100% mentality, risk is about probability. | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex." So you only play when it's 100% risk free? | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? " No, not at all..... I am just getting across that a lot of people assume that because they have tested negative they are risk free...... Sex is not 100% risk free | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? No, not at all..... I am just getting across that a lot of people assume that because they have tested negative they are risk free...... Sex is not 100% risk free" Yes but people that stupid wouldn't learn, even if you tried to explain it to them | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? " If you choose this lifestyle of course it’s not risk free . But I stick by what I said test become invalid the day someone else is introduced into the mix . This thread isn’t about me it’s about people’s thoughts and attitude to testing | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? If you choose this lifestyle of course it’s not risk free . But I stick by what I said test become invalid the day someone else is introduced into the mix . This thread isn’t about me it’s about people’s thoughts and attitude to testing " If you stick by what you said then you clearly don't understand probability | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? No, not at all..... I am just getting across that a lot of people assume that because they have tested negative they are risk free...... Sex is not 100% risk free Yes but people that stupid wouldn't learn, even if you tried to explain it to them" Agreed....and some not so stupid people as well | |||
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"A list of test results are only as good as the date they were taken.... in some cases up to 3 months prior to testing, so unless someone is abstinent for that amount of time they cannot be 100% of being risk free, particularly if they have been practicing bareback sex. So you only play when it's 100% risk free? If you choose this lifestyle of course it’s not risk free . But I stick by what I said test become invalid the day someone else is introduced into the mix . This thread isn’t about me it’s about people’s thoughts and attitude to testing If you stick by what you said then you clearly don't understand probability" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . " You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? " Non whatsoever simply because the person tested 3 months ago could have sex with the person whose never been tested . You can edge your bets by regular testing I agree but you are only in control of your own sexual behaviour. | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? Non whatsoever simply because the person tested 3 months ago could have sex with the person whose never been tested . You can edge your bets by regular testing I agree but you are only in control of your own sexual behaviour. " Thank you. I rest my case. Don't feel bad about it, most people have a terrible grasp of probability. | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? Non whatsoever simply because the person tested 3 months ago could have sex with the person whose never been tested . You can edge your bets by regular testing I agree but you are only in control of your own sexual behaviour. " The ones that rely on statistics worry me. They clearly think they are somehow safer than everyone else when in reality they are deluded. | |||
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"Condom broke couple of weeks and now I have been tested twice lol I cannot think how bare back folks deal with metal stress " You have to wait 2 weeks after a bareback incident - including a condom splitting or coming off - before you get tested as that’s how long the incubation period is for many std’s! It can be a difficult two weeks - plus waiting for the results - and I agree I’d be a nervous wreck if I had loads of bareback sex! X | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? Non whatsoever simply because the person tested 3 months ago could have sex with the person whose never been tested . You can edge your bets by regular testing I agree but you are only in control of your own sexual behaviour. The ones that rely on statistics worry me. They clearly think they are somehow safer than everyone else when in reality they are deluded. " Yes people who make decisions based on facts are ridiculous | |||
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" I clearly don’t understand your take on probability . I assess risks in my everyday work life thus reducing the probability . You said "Testing is only relevant if a couple are tested at the same time and are monogamous. As soon as one sets foot out the monogamous relationship that test becomes invalid." Some people don't get tested at all. So do you really think that there is no relevance to the risk factor between someone who has a test 3 months ago and someone who has never had a test? Non whatsoever simply because the person tested 3 months ago could have sex with the person whose never been tested . You can edge your bets by regular testing I agree but you are only in control of your own sexual behaviour. Thank you. I rest my case. Don't feel bad about it, most people have a terrible grasp of probability. " I know , something you’ve displayed succinctly | |||
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