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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I've just had some very interesting message interaction, a guy who's only verifications are 4 males and 1 trans person. All extremely graphic describing the meet in sexual details. However he maintains on his profile and by message that he is 100% straight, just meets guys because he knows how to have sex.

I'm really shaking my head at the extent of his denial.

I don't understand how he can feel that he is straight.

I'm posting this, because it has confused me, and put me off him, even though he ticks a few of my boxes. I just can't understand how someone can be that far in denial and it actually feels a bit like a kind of unbalanced thinking.

My preference is bi guys, but this feels strange.

I'm moving on, but wanted to see what others make of my thoughts.

I can't really understand why it makes me feel so uncomfortable that amount of denial, but it really does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He may class him self as straight cause he doesn't have any emotional attachment to the same sex probably likes a dick now and again but goes as far as that I'm not one for labels I class my self as straight I've fooled around with a dick and I enjoyed it but still wouldn't say I'm bi haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know someone like that, from what I can gather, to him it’s embarrassment, he’s not attracted to men he sees in the streets but likes the taboo aspect of being with a guy, he’s tried it several times and didn’t enjoy once he’d started, I think most everyone is somewhere on the scale of being bi but some find it harder to accept than others, I also think there are a lot of reasons for someone to be more open about it with themselves and others and some of those reasons will effect wether they act upon the desires or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"I've just had some very interesting message interaction, a guy who's only verifications are 4 males and 1 trans person. All extremely graphic describing the meet in sexual details. However he maintains on his profile and by message that he is 100% straight, just meets guys because he knows how to have sex.

I'm really shaking my head at the extent of his denial.

I don't understand how he can feel that he is straight.

I'm posting this, because it has confused me, and put me off him, even though he ticks a few of my boxes. I just can't understand how someone can be that far in denial and it actually feels a bit like a kind of unbalanced thinking.

My preference is bi guys, but this feels strange.

I'm moving on, but wanted to see what others make of my thoughts.

I can't really understand why it makes me feel so uncomfortable that amount of denial, but it really does.

"

It's the radical subjectivism we see all around us these days. In simpler times if you voluntarily engaged in sexual activity with people with penises and people with vaginas everyone would agree you were bi.

These days, if you don't "feel" bi, the sexual activities you objectively get up to are irrelevant.

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.

Sounds a bit dodgy to me. Give him a miss. If you can’t be true to people on here, what’s the point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion "

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people can do what they want and call themselves what they want without me asking for an explanation.

Has anything he's done impacting on my experiences on here? No, so I keep my nose out of his business.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual"

Depends if he had sex with the men and also fucks women.

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"I know someone like that, from what I can gather, to him it’s embarrassment, he’s not attracted to men he sees in the streets but likes the taboo aspect of being with a guy, he’s tried it several times and didn’t enjoy once he’d started, I think most everyone is somewhere on the scale of being bi but some find it harder to accept than others, I also think there are a lot of reasons for someone to be more open about it with themselves and others and some of those reasons will effect wether they act upon the desires or not "

For me personally, I class myself as bi, only in that I enjoy sex with men. I could never enter a relationship with one as I need a woman for that. To be honest, if I was with a woman that would happily peg me (along with a few other kinks!) I dont really think I would bother with men. It might sound cold and calculating but Its only a guys cock that Im after. I dont particularly want to kiss a guy either...some of them are awful at it!

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By *elcdtvTV/TS
over a year ago

Fareham

I agree with you to an extent. Maybe it is how you define Bi? I like sex with men and have had many, a hard cock is sure to turn me on but I don’t find men attractive as such, whereas women I do, and I couldn’t see myself being in a relationship with a man. A trans maybe.

All that said I call myself Bi as I think it paints a clearer picture on a site like this.

And I cannot understand men who contact me who’s profile says they are straight and won’t to meet woman

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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"I know someone like that, from what I can gather, to him it’s embarrassment, he’s not attracted to men he sees in the streets but likes the taboo aspect of being with a guy, he’s tried it several times and didn’t enjoy once he’d started, I think most everyone is somewhere on the scale of being bi but some find it harder to accept than others, I also think there are a lot of reasons for someone to be more open about it with themselves and others and some of those reasons will effect wether they act upon the desires or not

For me personally, I class myself as bi, only in that I enjoy sex with men. I could never enter a relationship with one as I need a woman for that. To be honest, if I was with a woman that would happily peg me (along with a few other kinks!) I dont really think I would bother with men. It might sound cold and calculating but Its only a guys cock that Im after. I dont particularly want to kiss a guy either...some of them are awful at it!"

I do understand that, there's a massive difference between wanting to have a relationship with someone, and just dissolving into a scene with everything you've got, and letting things happen.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Maybe he’s a Label Mabel.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I've just had some very interesting message interaction, a guy who's only verifications are 4 males and 1 trans person. All extremely graphic describing the meet in sexual details. However he maintains on his profile and by message that he is 100% straight, just meets guys because he knows how to have sex.

I'm really shaking my head at the extent of his denial.

I don't understand how he can feel that he is straight.

I'm posting this, because it has confused me, and put me off him, even though he ticks a few of my boxes. I just can't understand how someone can be that far in denial and it actually feels a bit like a kind of unbalanced thinking.

My preference is bi guys, but this feels strange.

I'm moving on, but wanted to see what others make of my thoughts.

I can't really understand why it makes me feel so uncomfortable that amount of denial, but it really does.

It's the radical subjectivism we see all around us these days. In simpler times if you voluntarily engaged in sexual activity with people with penises and people with vaginas everyone would agree you were bi.

These days, if you don't "feel" bi, the sexual activities you objectively get up to are irrelevant. "

Yup, i had someone shouting at me on quora that labels were invented to cause harm! Nope, words help us describe the world around us! And that guy is bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not a big fan of lables as their far too restrictive, I get this guys perspective (I think), I'm down as straight on here because, of the choices available that most closely resembles who/what I am, however if there was an option for Pansexual that's what I'd choose because for me it's the person I'm attracted too rather than the gender.

Just my two penneth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Classic fab straight. When I first joined fab I was surprised how many "straight" guys messaged me hence blocking them all.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"I'm not a big fan of lables as their far too restrictive, I get this guys perspective (I think), I'm down as straight on here because, of the choices available that most closely resembles who/what I am, however if there was an option for Pansexual that's what I'd choose because for me it's the person I'm attracted too rather than the gender.

Just my two penneth. "

In fab world "bi" indicates nothing more than that you like sex with people with penises AND people with vaginas. It is just a handy label that lets other people know what you are into.

It says nothing about how you might feel in your wider social identity.

I am down as bi here, because I am happy to play with people with all types of genitals, though in the real world I only have relationships with women, so I wouldn't say I was bi in any deep seated sense.

However, I don't feel it an oppression that there isn't a precise description for my individual sexuality.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual"

I disagree. I don’t see how a feminine TV receiving anal sex from a guy is any different to a cis female receiving anal sex from a guy - from the guy’s perspective at least.

I’m a straight female, I play with men but I wouldn’t play with a TV, as I’m not attracted to girls - even though they are biologically male. To me, that would be the same as playing with a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hes either a liar, totally clueless as to what bi means or hes a psychopath. Either way, id stear clear of him. I class myself as bi, but only ever touched one guy and i dont find men attractive, just the penis part. Unless they are trans or very feminine.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual

I disagree. I don’t see how a feminine TV receiving anal sex from a guy is any different to a cis female receiving anal sex from a guy - from the guy’s perspective at least.

"

I think you're trying very hard not to see it.

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By *immingglasgowTV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

I am a straight man and I rim men and more but i identify as a straight man I am not gay or inbetween . This is who I am as a man

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By *ddibleMan
over a year ago

Exeter Bristol Salisbury

A saying I've used a lot on here

"I've played football a few times, that doesn't make me a footballer"

When I posed the question on here last week several of you suggest the correct term for me would be 'playful bi'. Sadly all you can choose is straight, bi courious or bisexual. If we are forced to label ourselves on here then maybe a bit more choice would be nice

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By *umKinkwithUsCouple
over a year ago

Camberley

As this site is primarily for sex rather than relationships like other sites / apps would say that the definition of bisexual on here would be performs sexual acts with both male and female.

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual

I disagree. I don’t see how a feminine TV receiving anal sex from a guy is any different to a cis female receiving anal sex from a guy - from the guy’s perspective at least.

I think you're trying very hard not to see it. "

Why would I need to ‘try hard’ not to see it? Not sure what you’re inferring by that? Just because my perspective is different to yours, doesn’t make it any less valid as an opinion.

I’m not making any judgement on it & I’m not concerned what label people choose to use for themselves ... but IMO a feminine tv & a cis female are more alike than a feminine tv & a cis male.

I wouldn’t play with a tv any more than I’d play with a woman wearing a strap on

If you see it differently, that’s your prerogative. I’m sure you’d find plenty more differing opinions on it too, as I’m pretty sure there is no definitive answer.

Apart from yours which is apparently the only correct one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some really confused men on here. Its simple! If you only do sexual stuff with oposite sex then youre straight. If you only do sexual stuff with same sex people youre gay! If you do any sexual stuff with both sexes then youre bisexual! Thats it! Get over it! Idiots.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"I'm not a big fan of lables as their far too restrictive, I get this guys perspective (I think), I'm down as straight on here because, of the choices available that most closely resembles who/what I am, however if there was an option for Pansexual that's what I'd choose because for me it's the person I'm attracted too rather than the gender.

Just my two penneth. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had a friend who did some sexual health awareness work with MSM (men who have sex with men) mainly at local cottaging sites. A large proportion of them would vehemently (sometimes violently) assert that they were not bisexual even though they'd just been having sex with men in woods and public toilets. Often they turned down offers of free condoms. They almost all returned home to their wives and families, and this was often the reason cited for them identifying as straight. There's still a stigma around less mainstream expressions of sexuality that leads to utter denial of orientation. So much so that people cannot contemplate identifying as anything other than what fits into the norms of the society they belong to

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I don’t look as trans fun as being gay my opinion

Everyone is allowed an opinion reality is though it’s gay/homosexual

I disagree. I don’t see how a feminine TV receiving anal sex from a guy is any different to a cis female receiving anal sex from a guy - from the guy’s perspective at least.

I think you're trying very hard not to see it.

Why would I need to ‘try hard’ not to see it? Not sure what you’re inferring by that? Just because my perspective is different to yours, doesn’t make it any less valid as an opinion.

I’m not making any judgement on it & I’m not concerned what label people choose to use for themselves ... but IMO a feminine tv & a cis female are more alike than a feminine tv & a cis male.

I wouldn’t play with a tv any more than I’d play with a woman wearing a strap on

If you see it differently, that’s your prerogative. I’m sure you’d find plenty more differing opinions on it too, as I’m pretty sure there is no definitive answer.

Apart from yours which is apparently the only correct one? "

It's not a perspective, it's just words and the English language. You don't choose a label, putting your penis in another mans ass is a homosexual / bisexual act. Laws have been written around that fact, it's really not complex.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I am a straight man and I rim men and more but i identify as a straight man I am not gay or inbetween . This is who I am as a man"

I identify as a pink elephant named rosey. I'm still bi because i like sucking dicks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am a straight man and I rim men and more but i identify as a straight man I am not gay or inbetween . This is who I am as a man

I identify as a pink elephant named rosey. I'm still bi because i like sucking dicks.

"

Coffee on screen moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok labels...

Bi meet bi

Straight meet straight

TV meet TV

Gay meet Gay.

These are the only permutations allowed and heaven help any who cross this line.

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people."

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA. "

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"I had a friend who did some sexual health awareness work with MSM (men who have sex with men) mainly at local cottaging sites. A large proportion of them would vehemently (sometimes violently) assert that they were not bisexual even though they'd just been having sex with men in woods and public toilets. Often they turned down offers of free condoms. They almost all returned home to their wives and families, and this was often the reason cited for them identifying as straight. There's still a stigma around less mainstream expressions of sexuality that leads to utter denial of orientation. So much so that people cannot contemplate identifying as anything other than what fits into the norms of the society they belong to"

This makes sense to how he is thinking I feel.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction? "

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay. "

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does. "

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant. "

I am not sure that's right. I think "bi" implies some sort of positive orientation not just a shrugging "I suppose so, if there's nothing better going on".

How about this. If I once had sex with a man, thought it was OK, but decided I didn't want to do it again, would that make me bi?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant.

I am not sure that's right. I think "bi" implies some sort of positive orientation not just a shrugging "I suppose so, if there's nothing better going on".

How about this. If I once had sex with a man, thought it was OK, but decided I didn't want to do it again, would that make me bi? "

Question 1 - a distinction without a difference. For ease of understanding, if you like putting your penis inside other men, you are bi or gay.

Question 2 - in my opinion, no. You were just experimenting.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant.

I am not sure that's right. I think "bi" implies some sort of positive orientation not just a shrugging "I suppose so, if there's nothing better going on".

How about this. If I once had sex with a man, thought it was OK, but decided I didn't want to do it again, would that make me bi?

Question 1 - a distinction without a difference. For ease of understanding, if you like putting your penis inside other men, you are bi or gay.

Question 2 - in my opinion, no. You were just experimenting."

I am trying to get at why, with some activities, it is considered that even though you do them in frequently and without much enthusiasm, you fall into the same category as those who participate frequently and enthusiastically and in other activities, you don't.

Another example. I go to a Michelin starred restaurant three or four times a year, but the rest of the time, subsist on baked beans and spam. Am I a foodie?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant.

I am not sure that's right. I think "bi" implies some sort of positive orientation not just a shrugging "I suppose so, if there's nothing better going on".

How about this. If I once had sex with a man, thought it was OK, but decided I didn't want to do it again, would that make me bi?

Question 1 - a distinction without a difference. For ease of understanding, if you like putting your penis inside other men, you are bi or gay.

Question 2 - in my opinion, no. You were just experimenting.

I am trying to get at why, with some activities, it is considered that even though you do them in frequently and without much enthusiasm, you fall into the same category as those who participate frequently and enthusiastically and in other activities, you don't. "

Because you're ignoring all the sub-labels that we already have like "casual fan" vrs "west ham till i die" types.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people.

Well if 50% of people call a bus a car and 25% call a bus a bike and the other 25% call it a train but sometimes a bus. You'd have a hard time working at the DVLA.

I'll play devil's advocate a bit as it's a boring morning in the legal world...

Say, I am not really that bothered about football but if I am a bit bored I will watch a game on the TV and sometimes, my son being a dead keen Accrington fan, I will go and watch a Stanley game with him. I watched about five games last year.

Say, in another situation, I really fancy women, but if there are no women on offer, I will, for want of anything better have sex with a man. I had sex with three men last year.

Say, in a third situation, I killed one person thirty years ago, did my time and have no intention of killing again.

In situation 1, I not labelled a football fan.

In situation 2, I am probably labelled bi.

In situation 3, I am definitely labelled a murderer.

What's the distinction?

It's the question being asked. We aren't asking "are you a fan of cock?" Or "are you a professional cock handler?" The question is simply whether you are open to same sex, sexual contact. If you are then you are bi or gay.

You're missing my point.

Like I say if I am not that bothered about football but will watch the occasional game if I have nothing better to do, no one would put me in the social category of "football fan"

On the other hand, if I am not the bothered about having sex with men, but will do so if there are no women on offer, most people would put me in the social category of "bi".

My question is why, on the one hand in the case of watching football , the fact that I occasionally participate in activities that I am lukewarm about does not put me in the same social category as people who participate in said activities more frequently and enthusiastically, yet, in the case of sex with men, it does.

Because being bi does not have to mean you are 'fanatical' about cock and bum fun. 'Fan' is a term relating to the intensity of a feeling, bisexual is simply a statement of fact about activities that may be infrequent. The frequency or intensity are irrelevant.

I am not sure that's right. I think "bi" implies some sort of positive orientation not just a shrugging "I suppose so, if there's nothing better going on".

How about this. If I once had sex with a man, thought it was OK, but decided I didn't want to do it again, would that make me bi?

Question 1 - a distinction without a difference. For ease of understanding, if you like putting your penis inside other men, you are bi or gay.

Question 2 - in my opinion, no. You were just experimenting.

I am trying to get at why, with some activities, it is considered that even though you do them in frequently and without much enthusiasm, you fall into the same category as those who participate frequently and enthusiastically and in other activities, you don't.

Because you're ignoring all the sub-labels that we already have like "casual fan" vrs "west ham till i die" types. "

So, why can't we have those sub categories when it comes to sex? Why can't I be a "casual fan" of having sex with men, rather than being fully blown bi?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

So, why can't we have those sub categories when it comes to sex? Why can't I be a "casual fan" of having sex with men, rather than being fully blown bi? "

You can, also long as you acknowledge they are sub-categories of bisexual.

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By *ery curious maleMan
over a year ago

Bishop Auckland


"I know someone like that, from what I can gather, to him it’s embarrassment, he’s not attracted to men he sees in the streets but likes the taboo aspect of being with a guy, he’s tried it several times and didn’t enjoy once he’d started, I think most everyone is somewhere on the scale of being bi but some find it harder to accept than others, I also think there are a lot of reasons for someone to be more open about it with themselves and others and some of those reasons will effect wether they act upon the desires or not

For me personally, I class myself as bi, only in that I enjoy sex with men. I could never enter a relationship with one as I need a woman for that. To be honest, if I was with a woman that would happily peg me (along with a few other kinks!) I dont really think I would bother with men. It might sound cold and calculating but Its only a guys cock that Im after. I dont particularly want to kiss a guy either...some of them are awful at it!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel the same to an extent. I play with women and enjoy it but I wouldn't do a one on one female meet or havw a relationship with one so I don't class myself as bisexual.

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By *eorge_annieCouple
over a year ago

Tingley

Wouldn’t you have to be attracted to the other sex to be classed as bi sexual?

Bi playful should be a classification

Where you don’t mind a bit of oral but you’re not going into the snogging anal full sex side of thing lol

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By *ery curious maleMan
over a year ago

Bishop Auckland

Bi playful is how I describe myself.

But I think we can all get too hung up on labels

Most of the messages I get are from "straight" men !!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Men who have sex with other men." Not gay or Bi. Just probably not getting any sex from the wife. Countryside dogging spots are full of them.

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By *eorge_annieCouple
over a year ago

Tingley


""Men who have sex with other men." Not gay or Bi. Just probably not getting any sex from the wife. Countryside dogging spots are full of them. "

I’m not sure that’s the case.

Most guys I know that do it, do it as part of a couple.

For that extra kink.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


""Men who have sex with other men." Not gay or Bi. Just probably not getting any sex from the wife. Countryside dogging spots are full of them. "

Because they turn up horny, having deluded themselves that as many women like dogging as men. Once they are there, they realise its them, 19 lorry drivers and 1 TV, but they popped the viagra an hour ago and think they may as well make use of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After 40 years of denial I have come out as Bi... Such a relief.... But labels are tiresome

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London


"I've just had some very interesting message interaction, a guy who's only verifications are 4 males and 1 trans person. All extremely graphic describing the meet in sexual details. However he maintains on his profile and by message that he is 100% straight, just meets guys because he knows how to have sex.

I'm really shaking my head at the extent of his denial.

I don't understand how he can feel that he is straight.

I'm posting this, because it has confused me, and put me off him, even though he ticks a few of my boxes. I just can't understand how someone can be that far in denial and it actually feels a bit like a kind of unbalanced thinking.

My preference is bi guys, but this feels strange.

I'm moving on, but wanted to see what others make of my thoughts.

I can't really understand why it makes me feel so uncomfortable that amount of denial, but it really does.

"

100% this. Each to his own, but I don't understand the "I'm straight, but love cock" brigade. And I've lost count of the number of messages from 'straight' men who want me to put my penis inside them...lol! For me, it's just a description - I live as a straight man, and have only had MF relationships, but am definitely "bi" as I enjoy sex with men and women! Maybe I'm too simple.

But I think lots of bi guys keep straight on their profile as many couples make a point of not meeting bi guys...

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By *utie91Woman
over a year ago

Hitchin


"I know someone like that, from what I can gather, to him it’s embarrassment, he’s not attracted to men he sees in the streets but likes the taboo aspect of being with a guy, he’s tried it several times and didn’t enjoy once he’d started, I think most everyone is somewhere on the scale of being bi but some find it harder to accept than others, I also think there are a lot of reasons for someone to be more open about it with themselves and others and some of those reasons will effect wether they act upon the desires or not

For me personally, I class myself as bi, only in that I enjoy sex with men. I could never enter a relationship with one as I need a woman for that. To be honest, if I was with a woman that would happily peg me (along with a few other kinks!) I dont really think I would bother with men. It might sound cold and calculating but Its only a guys cock that Im after. I dont particularly want to kiss a guy either...some of them are awful at it!"

Haha... I know how you feel... I’m the same with women... I class myself as bi as I like playing with both women and men however for the relationship and passionate side of things it has to be a man for me... don’t think I could ever have a relationship with a woman.. too much drama haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been bi all my life as I enjoy playing with both.

Denied it on here for a long time, switching back and forth. Now I think “fuck it” I am who I am.

So many men in here that claim to be straight, well one less now lol

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By *agermeisterMan
over a year ago

Leeds

So it bothers you that he refuses to accept the label you want to pin on him?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Seriously though what the hell does it matter. Meet who you want and just forget the labels. We're all people."

Because on a site like this where we are looking to generally meet people who like the kind of play we do, the labels help us to find each other...

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By *ddibleMan
over a year ago

Exeter Bristol Salisbury

I'm not gay but I fucked a man that was

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By *ykmwyldTV/TS
over a year ago

Belpre

The facts: everyone is bi to a certain extent, if anyone says otherwise their just ignorant to the facts! What sexuality they consider themselves or list on their profile doesn't really matter in the least. List what you want to list on your profile, your still going to do what excites you sexually anyway lol, everyone does!!!

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

The guy isn't straight then. He's bi when he's on fab but acts straight in the real world,due to being judge etc. To me that's bi. So are some people saying just because a man doesn't have feelings for another man while he's having sex with him,means he's not bi?.

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By *woforone2025Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Dublin


"I think people can do what they want and call themselves what they want without me asking for an explanation.

Has anything he's done impacting on my experiences on here? No, so I keep my nose out of his business. "

fantastic post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a tricky one. I am orally bi I guess. I would say i am straight as the only thing i find sexually attractive is a cock!

But the word is bisexual, which means sex with both genders!

This is not helped by the current gender and sexual agenda in the media and politics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The facts: everyone is bi to a certain extent, if anyone says otherwise their just ignorant to the facts! What sexuality they consider themselves or list on their profile doesn't really matter in the least. List what you want to list on your profile, your still going to do what excites you sexually anyway lol, everyone does!!!"
they are not facts,they are you're opinion,its an opinion that makes people in denial feel a bit better & less guilty....

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