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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Do you think the above scheme will make this a better site when it’s rolled out this year. For those that don’t know the government plan to block access to all adult sites unless you sign up to an age verification process. I’m assuming this site and sites like it will be part of this scheme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is that so the government know where all the pervs are. Well that’s an easy one Westminster. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No idea. I won't be on here to find out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think it will make it a better site, no.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I thought id read somewhere they'd postponed the roll out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I thought id read somewhere they'd postponed the roll out."

They have

Cos they haven't thought it thru' properly

Hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sign up with who?

Many phone companies already do this and block 18+ content unless you ask

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There are massive challenges ahead for sites with adult content I’m assuming this site will come under that. The scheme rolls out in December now and will require you to give personal details to an age verification site something like passport numbers credit card numbers driving license etc before being able to access here. This will leave some people worried about privacy and hacking it hopefully will stop some of the time wasters who can’t or aren’t able to sign up but also may mean drop in membership too if real swingers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?"
i didn’t say it will I asked what people think my personal hope is that if members have to sign up to this scheme to access this site it’s more likely that they are genuine if they go to the bother. I also hope that some of the time wasters are stupid little boys who are to young to get verified. But there’s also possibility that your messaging people not verified as old enough who couldn’t be arsed or had genuine worries about signing up. And they are dead accounts

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?i didn’t say it will I asked what people think my personal hope is that if members have to sign up to this scheme to access this site it’s more likely that they are genuine if they go to the bother. I also hope that some of the time wasters are stupid little boys who are to young to get verified. But there’s also possibility that your messaging people not verified as old enough who couldn’t be arsed or had genuine worries about signing up. And they are dead accounts"

Sod that, just won't bother.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?i didn’t say it will I asked what people think my personal hope is that if members have to sign up to this scheme to access this site it’s more likely that they are genuine if they go to the bother. I also hope that some of the time wasters are stupid little boys who are to young to get verified. But there’s also possibility that your messaging people not verified as old enough who couldn’t be arsed or had genuine worries about signing up. And they are dead accounts

Sod that, just won't bother. "
bump

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?i didn’t say it will I asked what people think my personal hope is that if members have to sign up to this scheme to access this site it’s more likely that they are genuine if they go to the bother. I also hope that some of the time wasters are stupid little boys who are to young to get verified. But there’s also possibility that your messaging people not verified as old enough who couldn’t be arsed or had genuine worries about signing up. And they are dead accounts

Sod that, just won't bother. bump"

Why have you bumped the thread OP? This isn't a Facebook selling page. Or has the thread not gone how you wanted it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have nothing in particular to hide but I do have concerns with a list existing of who accesses porn. We all do it but most of us have professional lives which we keep separate and don’t really want it mixed with personal.

Is this being used as a proxy for internet regulation?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I'm confused...

How does it make the site better OP?i didn’t say it will I asked what people think my personal hope is that if members have to sign up to this scheme to access this site it’s more likely that they are genuine if they go to the bother. I also hope that some of the time wasters are stupid little boys who are to young to get verified. But there’s also possibility that your messaging people not verified as old enough who couldn’t be arsed or had genuine worries about signing up. And they are dead accounts

Sod that, just won't bother. bump

Why have you bumped the thread OP? This isn't a Facebook selling page. Or has the thread not gone how you wanted it?"
thought it was a relevant topic that deserves a bit of discussion sorry if that upsets you in some way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is actually a really interesting topic

Im not a conspiracy theorist.

But if you dont think the government wpuld use these registrations to track more than they arleady do where we go online then your dead wrong.

Also call is naive..but we havent ever really come accross accpunts by seemingly under age people and certainly havent met any.

I cam see a huge advantage in THEORY to this being aboe to go someway towards stopping under age people being freely able tp watch porn bit even then its not gping to work

Some teenager knows his dad's / uncle / big brother / older friends password for adult content and can still watch porn

As for fab i can see the only impact being negative

Those wanting this to be a very private hobby would feel exposed and possibly leave.

And its to solve a problem of under age use which is not a problem atleast as far as we are aware that fab has in tue first place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll just leave the site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll just leave the site. "

Yes i think we would too.

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By *emel9Man
over a year ago

West Midlands

The only risk I can see is the verification site being hacked. They can't due to Data Protection, use the information gathered for anything you don't agree to.

So, the data held on you would simply be to allow access to adult content. They can't sell it or pass it on to anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really don't see the point in this scheme. Surely it just exposes the end user to all sorts of data security risks?

It would be far easier and safer for them to force ISP's to block all adult content unless the customer requests them to unlock it. As someone mentioned previously many of the phone companies already do this.

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By *heeky WigglesMan
over a year ago

Hayling


"I really don't see the point in this scheme. Surely it just exposes the end user to all sorts of data security risks?

It would be far easier and safer for them to force ISP's to block all adult content unless the customer requests them to unlock it. As someone mentioned previously many of the phone companies already do this."

This raises a interesting point. In practice

If you use your mobile device for adult content..be it porn or fab etc

Most phone companies block it as standard until you request its unblocking

At which point i had to prove i was the contract holder and they removed the block.

It didnt get held on one database centrally

Anyone who wanted to track everybody IE a government or other agency

Would have to track every seperate phone company who has individual accounts which have requested the unblock seperatley and its all a bit hard and expensive and time consuming so in general they dont.

This registration would create a single centralised database that could be searched and data mined easily accross any network or isp.

Given that its nigh on impossible to regulate the end user

Ie I personally register.I do everything by the new rules.

Photo ID provided .Passport numbers given.

But my nephew or friends teenage kid gets somehow my log in or "Adult-Account" or what ever log in as me

Access what ever .porn fab etc

Whole sceme rendered a fail in that one instant

And if its going to fail there is little point in spending millions implemented

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By *northernsoulMan
over a year ago

Manchester

Thing is, how do you even police such a thing? Do the powers-that-be have a list of every 'adult' website on the planet? No, they do not. And where do they draw the line? Tumblr and Twitter are full of porn, but can you honestly see them having to abide by the same rules? It's like the cookie policy all over again: bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Massive problems for sites like this in future I wonder what the site will look like in a year when this is brought in

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple
over a year ago

South Wales


"Do you think the above scheme will make this a better site when it’s rolled out this year. For those that don’t know the government plan to block access to all adult sites unless you sign up to an age verification process. I’m assuming this site and sites like it will be part of this scheme"

I'm hoping it WILL make things better.

We're OK as we'll happily subscribe as a couple (no secrets obviously), but hopefully it'll deter the Saturday night chancers who join up behind wifey's back simply to perv and mess people about.

Anything that deters timewasters is fine by me.

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

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So every time someone goes on a adult site for the first time they will have to give some sort of age proof ID ?

Every site!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Massive problems for sites like this in future I wonder what the site will look like in a year when this is brought in"

I'm sure it would deter the late night wanking crowd. But it would also deter others. Not the site's fault.

Maybe the few that are left could have a keys in a bowl party.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"So every time someone goes on a adult site for the first time they will have to give some sort of age proof ID ?

Every site! "
everysite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing you can come by in is there will be a charge for it and someone will make a sh1t load of money off of the back of it

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By *G CoupleCouple
over a year ago

kent

Is this for sites only hosted in the uk?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be for sites accessed within the UK. The idea is to force Internet Service Providers (In the UK) to block erotica and pornography websites that don’t verify the age of their users (Via a government approved scheme).

So Fabs USA wouldn't have to meet the standard but Fabs UK would.

I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist but a scheme like this would be perfect for hackers to attack people, be a great way to discredit people the government don't like, and if the government want to attack those nasty strange swingers all they need to do is keep thinning the rules on what is right or wrong sexually and soon a lot of sites wouldn't be able to exist and all users would be known to the government and so could be prosecuted.

I think a lot of people (With a bit of technical knowledge) would just use sites outside the UK, therefore bypassing the rules. It is what happened to a lot of UK porn sites, they just moved to Spain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If multi-billion dollar Internet companies with all their massive security resources can't be trusted to look after people's personal data (fb, yahoo, etc), why would anyone trust porn and swinging sites? There is no way in hell we that we will. As the law will only apply to uk users, we're hoping that by using the TOR browser we'll look like we're based in a different country and therefore not need to age verify. Otherwise we're outta here!

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By *onnie And Clyde9070Couple
over a year ago

Leeds


"I really don't see the point in this scheme. Surely it just exposes the end user to all sorts of data security risks?

It would be far easier and safer for them to force ISP's to block all adult content unless the customer requests them to unlock it. As someone mentioned previously many of the phone companies already do this.

This raises a interesting point. In practice

If you use your mobile device for adult content..be it porn or fab etc

Most phone companies block it as standard until you request its unblocking

At which point i had to prove i was the contract holder and they removed the block.

It didnt get held on one database centrally

Anyone who wanted to track everybody IE a government or other agency

Would have to track every seperate phone company who has individual accounts which have requested the unblock seperatley and its all a bit hard and expensive and time consuming so in general they dont.

This registration would create a single centralised database that could be searched and data mined easily accross any network or isp.

Given that its nigh on impossible to regulate the end user

Ie I personally register.I do everything by the new rules.

Photo ID provided .Passport numbers given.

But my nephew or friends teenage kid gets somehow my log in or "Adult-Account" or what ever log in as me

Access what ever .porn fab etc

Whole sceme rendered a fail in that one instant

And if its going to fail there is little point in spending millions implemented

"

The Tories have thrown countless millions away with various half arsed ideas which have failed. So why should this be any different?

Also, talking of MP's, we're wondering if they're going to exempt themselves from these new measures. If you believe the media a lot of them are into a special kind of porn that they wouldn't want their personal details linked to...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the law will only apply to uk users, we're hoping that by using the TOR browser we'll look like we're based in a different country and therefore not need to age verify. Otherwise we're outta here! "

It will apply to UK users and sites that wish to be accessed within the UK. So in theory any site, located inside or outside the UK, would need to meet the requirements otherwise UK ISPs would have to block it.

To some sites outside the UK they would need to weigh up if the UK market was worth the trouble, for sites based in the UK they would have to comply or be blocked at ISP level.

A VPN would only be usable if you wanted to access a site based outside of the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good point about mobile. I had to go into a store with my passport to unlock +18 sites. Shouldn't be too hard to do the same with other internet access?

Or perhaps some kind of centralised age verification process which websites could refer to, rather than having to give personal data to each site individually.

Alternatively perhaps a short questionnaire could suffice to identify kids. E.g...

- Are you bored?

- Do you loathe your parents?

- Do you suspect that you were adopted?

- What do you think of grime?

etc etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As the law will only apply to uk users, we're hoping that by using the TOR browser we'll look like we're based in a different country and therefore not need to age verify. Otherwise we're outta here!

It will apply to UK users and sites that wish to be accessed within the UK. So in theory any site, located inside or outside the UK, would need to meet the requirements otherwise UK ISPs would have to block it.

To some sites outside the UK they would need to weigh up if the UK market was worth the trouble, for sites based in the UK they would have to comply or be blocked at ISP level.

A VPN would only be usable if you wanted to access a site based outside of the UK."

I'd assumed that porn websites would detect the country location of the browser and only request age veri when it's a country where it's a legal reqt. As it's been a legal reqt in Germany since 2015, sites like pornhub use age veri there, but we don't see it when accessing pornhub from the UK. In any case, if we can't VPN into these sites, we won't be using them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd assumed that porn websites would detect the country location of the browser and only request age veri when it's a country where it's a legal reqt. As it's been a legal reqt in Germany since 2015, sites like pornhub use age veri there, but we don't see it when accessing pornhub from the UK. In any case, if we can't VPN into these sites, we won't be using them."

Ahhh, I see your point, from what I have read it has been phrased as sites hosted in the UK have to offer age verification, rather than UK users of.

If it is that UK sites have to force age verification then it doesn't matter where you are accessing the UK based site from, but if it only relates to UK users then I agree a VPN will work

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've already had to prove to both my home and mobile broadband providers, that I'm over 18, in order to access any kind of 18+ rated site.

In fact, my home ISP wouldn't even allow me to look at *any* websites except their own, until I'd specified my level of access.

A blanket proof such as that, should already be enough, without being forced to jump through government hoops, to access the same stuff.

Nobody under 18 will ever see adult content on my PC (there are no children, in my entire family - and nobody else has access to my computer).

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