FabSwingers.com forum: Confused on a bi issue ( male)

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Firstly if anyone takes offence it is not meant.. this is mearly me trying to make sense of something I commented on somewhere else..

Okay the question was..

Why is it so hot for a straight man to be taken anally by a woman with a toy or a guy.... ???

Now I actually asked.. if your desiring that.. wouldnt it make you bi.. to which I have got lots of comments back that no.. if you enjoy anal with a guy it does not make you bi.. I know I am straight etc...

But I am confused.. now I know sexuality is a mind field.. but really.. but surely if your straight you dont want a guy to take you in that way???

Sorry.. just trying to understand more.. now it is worth mentioning its from a fetish site.. and I do actually understand those that have it forced..and enjoy it solely for the pleasure of giving the person giving the pleasure.. but these men are stating they want it.. they desire it.

Please dont anyone think I am bashing anyone that likes this.. I am just asking...as I am a little confused by the abuse I got in stating what I thought was the obvious.. :S

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wassa mind field?

is it like a forcefield ya have round ya to keep bi blokes away

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey guys, now I can't for the love of me see how any "straight" guy would want this to happen!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

lol.... at the mind field.. I have really been slammed on this thread.. and I did only kinda ask the same as I have on here..

as I said.. I put that I can understand it from a forced thing.. Like I know many female Dommes would hate to do it to a straight guy... but it was more them wanting it from a guy and desiring it..

am I missing something really obvious??? that is what I think I am asking..

I have said that while I dont spend time looking for a woman that I do like to if it comes up in play to play with a woman... so would not say I was straight...

Cali - all confused.. lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know the answer to the question (I know a couple of guys who insist they are straight but have met TVs so equally confused!) But you getting abuse for a posting is out of order. your posts are always lovely and supportive. Ms x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

most guys I know are only orally bi so even they would not want this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cali - lots of things on here confuse me

Like blokes who get all precious about being 'totally straight' but mention they like to suck cock when the mood takes them !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't know the answer to the question (I know a couple of guys who insist they are straight but have met TVs so equally confused!) But you getting abuse for a posting is out of order. your posts are always lovely and supportive. Ms x"

Its on a fetish site.. and I really should know better than to go against the grain.. I seem to have offended them by suggesting that they are not straight.. and I was mearly asking..

I have kept it respectful as lots of Dommes and Dominants on there and my conduct does reflect back on my Master.

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a guy is taken by a strap on by a girl he is straight he is only bi if he is interested in other guys simples.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If a guy is taken by a strap on by a girl he is straight he is only bi if he is interested in other guys simples. "

See for me I would even question that... but I did leave that off... as a sex toy is penis shaped etc...

but I didnt mention that.. it was the fact they were stating a desire for guys to take them..

Cali x

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

Perhaps the difference is the difference between being attracted to a member of the same sex, and enjoying an act of submission.

Bisexual generally means happy dating members of either sex. Where as on a swinger (and fetish site) it can be taken to mean happy playing sexually.

Same applies to women, how many bi females have actually dated another woman. An awful lot less than those who enjoy bi play.

Society with its labels and stigma's is comfortable with bi female play, bi male play is still largely a taboo.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Perhaps the difference is the difference between being attracted to a member of the same sex, and enjoying an act of submission.

That is what has been put back to me a bit.. and if they were just desiring domination from a woman I could just about buy it... but it was the wording.. that I would love to have a Dom force me anally.

I would think that if you loved it, then its not really forced..

as I said I understand the dominance side..as I will get things that I dont actually want to do.. but my master gets pleasure from me doing them.. so therefore I do it.

Cali x

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By *eighleedsMan
over a year ago

leeds

way i see it, a man taking a strap on form a woman is still straight after all the act is with a woman.

If he says he is straight, yet has anal with men then no he aint straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn`t sexuality more fluid than this whole debate.

It comes down to trying things enjoying them ...or not. There of course I choice.

The problems always arrive when the ticks are required in the little boxes.

It becomes limiting, conversations are the only way to really decide , that and experimenting.

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By *urreyfun2008Man
over a year ago

East Grinstead

A man enjoying anal play given by a woman does not make him bi, be it forced or otherwise.

Now if she leans forward and whispers in his ear that she wants to see him spit roasted by a guy and her and he agrees then he is bi playful.

In the dom/sub arena the dynamics are very different and lines are more blurred.

All boils down to many want things to be black and white, while reality (not just in swinging) is very different, with infinite shades of gray in between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think its great that guys are becoming more sexually adventurous and that there are more choice in the sex toy department and just think arse play equals gay its about exploring what feels great. I don't think there are so much as labels its more about being a try sexual if you like something and curious enough then give it ago. Plenty of couples now have sex toys to spice up things and the toys are not just for girls anymore some are made to share.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hurrah....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"way i see it, a man taking a strap on form a woman is still straight after all the act is with a woman.

If he says he is straight, yet has anal with men then no he aint straight"

I 100% agree.!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well i love playing with mens bums have to make sure all nice and clean have the stuff for that too a lubs, lol and some even ask me to get my strap on out or my putt plugs i keep just for them ... have other things too... its just diffrent dont make them bi if love bum play .. not for everyone i know .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It was actually something that Sassy said on a thread about why no bi men and to do with the OMG factor when she approached them with a strap on or toy..

For most straight men there seems to still be some omg moments attached..

I am afraid that for me a guy wanting anal play makes him to far the other way for me.. but then again.. all the guys I have ever been with think like that too...and its not an area that I wish to explore...

I know some enjoy it.. and that was why I did not on that thread actually question those taking toys... it was the desire to be taken by a guy..

And in actual fact within the bdsm world I could understand them enjoying it on the pure submission aspect but actually looking for it was my question.....

As I can not see how any straight man... sub or otherwise would desire and look to be taken like that by another man.

Told it is going to happen.. or tied up and it happening in the submissive sense... then again.. I can actually understand it.. it was the fact that so many were saying that "oh I am looking for a guy to do that" or " I love it when a man takes my arse"...

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

way I see it is that sex is everyone's personal kink. What or who they get to get off with is entirely up to them (even substitutes), as long as they get off and they're happy... fine who are we to criticise or judge anyone else by how they enjoy themselves. It may not be your choice, but it is a valid choice for a person to make, after all.

If people don't want to play with LGBT community members... fine, just keep the reasons to themselves as it is discriminatory and unfair to those who make a choice to how they wish to live.

why should who someone goes to bed with be a problem for others?

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was actually something that Sassy said on a thread about why no bi men and to do with the OMG factor when she approached them with a strap on or toy..

For most straight men there seems to still be some omg moments attached..

I know some enjoy it.. and that was why I did not on that thread actually question those taking toys... it was the desire to be taken by a guy..

And in actual fact within the bdsm world I could understand them enjoying it on the pure submission aspect but actually looking for it was my question.....

As I can not see how any straight man... sub or otherwise would desire and look to be taken like that by another man.

Cali x"

Cali, hope Master does not mind my opinion here, but would I be right in thinking that you have come to the same conclusion as Sam and I and that surely fellas who actually want or even go out looking for this just have to be kinda gay?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

wolfdevil please dont get me wrong I think there is nothing wrong with it, but I have had quite a level of abuse thrown at me over this thread.. and I thought that my question was quite a good one as I wanted to understand..

I learn from asking things..

and getting others points of _iews...

Life is a constant learning experience.. and while anal play isnt my thing with guys.. I am not stupid.. I know plenty enjoy it.. I have not met a few people as they have said that is what they wish from me... and its just not my thing.

We all are to complex to fit into net little tick boxes... but... I just honestly struggled to grasp how your straight if you WANT and LOVE a guy fucking your arse if your a guy...

But as I am not a guy I couldnt answer it myself.

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Master will not mind.. after all.. I post with his permission to be here.. but I think that it makes them a little not straight at the least.. not the act but the want or looking for it.. Yes I believe that they are stretching the straight line..

And actually I find it the same as the people that message me saying that they are straight but would take a cock if it got them sex.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And actually I find it the same as the people that message me saying that they are straight but would take a cock if it got them sex.

Cali "

Cali, those who "would take a cock if it got them sex" must be seriously desperate and erm.....................not straight!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you are getting abuse then why are you asking the question of what people want to do in there own personal sex life. Would you want to be asked why you enjoy having a master or is that a personal choice.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

see since being with my Master my _iews have softened somewhat and I am much more tolerant ... I just if something does nothing for me sexually will admit it..

In principle I have nothing against bi or gay men.. but for me as part of swinging world I am not interested in that sort of play.. Neither watching, nor taking part in...

However, I am aware that plenty do enjoy it... which was why I got a little "meh" when my simple question got to me being called homophobic... and a few other things..

So I thought if I asked on here I may get a little bit more feedback and understand a little more...

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"wolfdevil please dont get me wrong I think there is nothing wrong with it, but I have had quite a level of abuse thrown at me over this thread.. and I thought that my question was quite a good one as I wanted to understand..

I learn from asking things..

and getting others points of _iews...

We all are to complex to fit into net little tick boxes... but... I just honestly struggled to grasp how your straight if you WANT and LOVE a guy fucking your arse if your a guy...

But as I am not a guy I couldnt answer it myself.

Cali x"

A sexual psychologist would be best qualified to answer; unfortunately I am not.

Wolf

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By *ollie_JCouple
over a year ago

London

On the penile shape of toys

I can't think of a better shape for entry? Anvil, orange, box?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you are getting abuse then why are you asking the question of what people want to do in there own personal sex life. Would you want to be asked why you enjoy having a master or is that a personal choice."

I asked it after someone else asked the first question..

Its a forum.. and surely the idea is to understand and discuss.. which is what I thought I was doing.

I am always happy to answer that..

I like the control I give to my Master, the safety of being owned and being my Masters property. I enjoy the sexual side of knowing that I have no right to refuse.. I love the feeling I get when I do something that was really actually perhaps something I didnt want to do, but did and know that Master is pleased with me

I love the freedom I have in relinquishing total control of my life to Master and I totally adore the power exchange.. I am not submissive in general... and only submit to my Master.. in fact I am quite dominant in my nature. which makes it better for me.

I could actually write pages and pages on why I love having a Master but most of it would not be permitted on here anyway...

I also love the complete love and total trust that is part and parcel of this type of relationship... Without trust there is nothing.. and I give mine totally... and love the fact that at times I am refered to as property.. It just makes me go all mmmmm inside.

I hadnt questioned why they liked it.. just asked that didnt desiring and wanting a man to take you anally make you not straight... It was a genuine question..

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Firstly if anyone takes offence it is not meant.. this is mearly me trying to make sense of something I commented on somewhere else..

Okay the question was..

Why is it so hot for a straight man to be taken anally by a woman with a toy or a guy.... ???

But I am confused.. now I know sexuality is a mind field.. but really.. but surely if your straight you dont want a guy to take you in that way???

Please dont anyone think I am bashing anyone that likes this.. I am just asking...as I am a little confused by the abuse I got in stating what I thought was the obvious.. :S

Cali x"

Some guys are stright, they take no pleasure in playing with a man. However some men are submisive and get turned on by lack of control and power play. I am extremely surprised you didn't contemplate this if you claim to be in a submissive relationship.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

A sexual psychologist would be best qualified to answer; unfortunately I am not.

Wolf

of which I have a degree in lol... and even I am confused.. my books and much research would suggest that they have bi tendancies.. but I think that its actually the fear of being labelled that has got the response.. because it is still seemingly frowned upon..

( which is why I understand the enjoyment of being "forced" to take what your mind says is wrong to enjoy)

cali x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I have actually put that I understand if that was the reason numerous times..

and stated that I understood doing something purely for submission...

What I didnt understand was the " I want to find a guy to do it" Which is different from wanting it submissively..

and claim.. I am owned, collared and Do not even pick my clothes myself... and no safe word.. not much more submissive than that...

cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know a guy who loves me using a strap on on him but in no way shape or form would entertain another male so am I right in thinking because of that he must be bi or gay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have actually put that I understand if that was the reason numerous times..

and stated that I understood doing something purely for submission...

What I didnt understand was the " I want to find a guy to do it" Which is different from wanting it submissively..

and claim.. I am owned, collared and Do not even pick my clothes myself... and no safe word.. not much more submissive than that...

cali"

Maybe its fantasy the thought of doing it.

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere out there

"Cali - lots of things on here confuse me

Like blokes who get all precious about being 'totally straight' but mention they like to suck cock when the mood takes them !

"
surly that is bi, bi being bisexual and act of sex wit a male wether he fancys him or not is bi sexual, i mean my man has not fancied evey woman he had sex with but the tought of sex was exciting, so if a guy sucks cock ya can call it orally bi only, but it's still bi if he takes a cock anally or gives it to another guy its same thing its bisexual, if suckin a cock gives a guy that is performing it pleasure and turns him on then without doubt in my mind it is bisexual i dont think there is a need to be attracted to the person rather the sexual act, as for the strap on well thats a whole new thing, i ask eddy to let me get 1 as he wanted to do anal with me i got a resoundin no

but no doubt my opinion will not sit well with some but hay thats cool just my thoughs oh and his too xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Maybe its fantasy the thought of doing it. "

But isnt a straight man not going to want a man... I will concede its just my way of thinking on the toy issue.. it for me just isnt something a man wants.. ( and as I said.. never been with a man in a relationship that does want that or is even curious to try)

If the thread had been.. My mistress is going to have me take a guy and I am straight.. I am looking forward to pleasing her.. I would not for a moment question if he was straight..

It is the fact they are both Looking for guys to take them like that.. and enjoying it as in the actual sex... and wanting it..

I know the dommes that I know take great delight in the guy gritting his teeth etc... and I get the submissive bit of it..

I dont fantasise about other women.. yet I enjoy on the odd occassion playing with a woman in a group situation... but I would state bi.. because it is enjoyment from the same sex..

Cali x

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere out there

oh just so ya know i was bi curious tried it wasnt for me doubt if i would agian but then again it's just not my thing xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"oh just so ya know i was bi curious tried it wasnt for me doubt if i would agian but then again it's just not my thing xx"

that just reminded me of "I used to be a werewolf.................but I'm alright nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a very simple answer to why a guy straight, bi or gay would want anything in their arse.

It's a bit of a cruel physical trick played by whoever you believe your maker is. The main female G-spots are in or around the vagina, (ignoring boobs, neck, earlobes and nasal cavity, or is the last one just me???)

The main G-spots for a guy are a few inches inside their anus and also fairly deeply in there at their prostate and any guy who hasn't experienced some level of interaction with their male G-spots is missing out big time....trust me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My _iew is skewed but I don't fancy guys so I consider myself kinda straight, actually. I have sex with them, sure. They have straight sex with me - I suck, they fuck. Bi guys want the best of both worlds and I'm not, at least not for guys. I meet guys to push my femininity, not because I fancy them. it's a subtle distinction.

I stopped meeting tgirls after a few where I seemed to always be top out of politeness but I do fancy them so that's a little bi. But it's the feminine form, see, a very straight response.

I dunno and I don't really care anymore. Labels are for folk looking in. They just look blank from the inside of the jar.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Due to a few messages I want to make it quite clear that I get it on the guise of it being about the giving over of control...

but to me someone seeking something is a) toppping from the bottom and b) taking all the fun out of submission when you actually want it..

and put it with the subs that play up to get spanked lol

It was the desiring it not the act...

to clear up any confusion..

as to the gspot comment.. many men dont want to be touched in that way... and have no curiousity to try..

In fact I had to cut short a meet when a guy started trying to get me to play there..

Cali. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In fact I had to cut short a meet when a guy started trying to get me to play there..

Cali. x"

Oh, that ain't good. I don't trust any guy to keep himself as clean as I do I won't even rim a guy. Did he enema? Fat chance so not going near it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno and I don't really care anymore. Labels are for folk looking in. They just look blank from the inside of the jar."

Wot a seriously great line....it's spot on...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I dunno and I don't really care anymore. Labels are for folk looking in. They just look blank from the inside of the jar.

Wot a seriously great line....it's spot on...

I honsetly have to agree its a great line.. something I am learning..

cali

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By *woBiTwoCouple
over a year ago

north manchester

*him*

I'm a simple soul really, and here's my take on this:

Nowt wrong with guys or girls liking anal play, and if done by the opposite sex, does not necessarily indicate bisexuality.

However, if desired to be done to a guy by another guy, it seems to me to be a case of "walk like a duck, quack like a duck, covered in feathers, good swimmer.. ey up, it's a feckin' duck!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*him*

I'm a simple soul really, and here's my take on this:

Nowt wrong with guys or girls liking anal play, and if done by the opposite sex, does not necessarily indicate bisexuality.

However, if desired to be done to a guy by another guy, it seems to me to be a case of "walk like a duck, quack like a duck, covered in feathers, good swimmer.. ey up, it's a feckin' duck!"

Yep,,, totally agree.....Its true there’s far to many ill conceived attempts at sub labelling what is already universally accepted standards

Simply put …

Regardless of whatever scenario or motive results in consensual sexual contact between partners,,, there’s is only 3 definitions of sexual behaviour ……. Heterosexual…. Homosexual… and Bisexual …….. These all have clear definitions based on active willing participation….

People who are straight…. Do not have sex with people of their own gender….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dunno and I don't really care anymore. Labels are for folk looking in. They just look blank from the inside of the jar.

Wot a seriously great line....it's spot on...

I like that too! Spot on.

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By *ISPCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

I've found this really interesting.

I wouldn't describe myself as bi as I'm not sexually attracted to ladies. However, On our first organised meet I allowed a lady to lick, finger and kiss me. I did really enjoy the sensations but I can't say that it was something I actually wanted to try. I did try reciprocating, I was happy to touch and quite enjoyed that (I'm a qualified massage therapist anyway so touching is natural and can give pleasure), I also kissed the other lady while my man was busy giving me oral - again I enjoyed that too. However when I tried giving the lady oral I'm afraid it just grossed me out. Naturally I didn't show this as I didn't wish to cause upset. It isn't something I relish doing again as I disliked getting my face all wet. That said I wouldn't rule it all out again as sex is all about discovery. Throughout all of this I maintained eye contact with my guy which was my source of turn on.

So thinking over all of this does this make me bi, bi curious or what? I certainly have no Idea. If asked I would have said I was straight but if someone, male or female gave me good oral/fingering I know I'd enjoy it.

Sexuality is certainly not clear.

Kisp x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hetrosexual..is only sexually attracted to the opposite gender..

Homosexual..is only sexually attracted to the same gender..

Bisexual..is sexually attracted to both genders..

I guess there`s people exploring their sexuality..mayhaps bi curious is relevant...is it a fantasy or something thats true in reality...

Labels are a minefield...tho fair to say I like the ones given as above...it saves me mailing a homosexual....there`s no mileage in that endeavour...bisexual mabye, as long as they are aware of my boundaries and sexuality..

I am not sexually attracted by the male gender..

I am sexually attracted by the female gender...I get an erection..

I keep it simple..kinda %*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi Cali x

Not sure if my perspective will count for much or even answer a part of your question, but here goes.

I am a Gay woman. I LOVE women. I like guys, as friends etc, but not in a sexual way. I love it when my GF uses a dildo or strapless strap-on on me. Does that make me Bi or Straight instead of Gay? Nope. The reason I like her using either on me is because it's HER, a woman, using it and, as someone above mentioned, the shape is just perfect anatomically. I don't enjoy it because it looks like a penis or because I secretly want a guy to f--k me, I enjoy it because it feels f--king good, lol! The pleasure I receive both physically and emotionally are a direct result of the fact that my partner is female, not male.

So, if a Guy was actively seeking a man to penetrate him anally, as opposed to a woman, I would say, in my very limited experience, that that fact alone would make the Guy at least Bisexual simply because he wants a MAN to give it to him!!!!

I certainly don't think you should have received abuse for you asking the question. It's a perfectly legitimate one. But a lot of Guys just don't like the idea of labelling themselves in that way for fear of what I do not know.....ridicule from other guys?????

I know life is not black and white, but for that reason we have little sub categories that we use to describe ourselves. Bisexual describes a person who enjoys sex with both, i.e. the two sexes, hence the prefix 'Bi'. It's not rocket science. Some men do protest too much when this question is raised which has, in my experience, usually been a rather good indicator as to someone's true sexuality

Also Cali, I just wanted you to know, I very much enjoy reading your comments on the various threads. They are very informative and always respectful.

Hippo x

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

"If a guy is taken by a strap on by a girl he is straight he is only bi if he is interested in other guys simples.

See for me I would even question that... but I did leave that off... as a sex toy is penis shaped etc...

but I didnt mention that.. it was the fact they were stating a desire for guys to take them..

Cali x"

lesbians use strapons...doesnt make them straight.

As i have said before sexuality is a spectrum,i am bi, i could have ended up in a relationship with a woman.There are many women here who only have female contact in a play situation.

Given the position of the male gspot and the fact anal is pleasurable i can see men enjoying it without wanting a relationship.Personally i think people are too hung up on an either or choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy is taken by a strap on by a girl he is straight he is only bi if he is interested in other guys simples.

See for me I would even question that... but I did leave that off... as a sex toy is penis shaped etc...

but I didnt mention that.. it was the fact they were stating a desire for guys to take them..

Cali x"

It as to be penis shaped to fit in an anus, could not exactly be a cube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I would say that if you have sex with a guy in any way that you are bi.

This is regardless of whether you fancy them or not.

Obviously you have to have sex with women too to make you bi & not just gay.....you know what I mean.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"lesbians use strapons...doesnt make them straight."

It certainly doesn't, lol.

But to extrapolate on that comment, if a Guy was using one on me and I liked it or was actively seeking a Guy to do so, then I would call myself Bi and not Gay, simply because I would be enjoying sex with both sexes. If a Guy wants to be penetrated by a Guy, he's Bi, in my book, whether it's in a D/s situation or not.

Hippo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its on a fetish site.. and I really should know better than to go against the grain.. I seem to have offended them by suggesting that they are not straight.. and I was mearly asking..

I have kept it respectful as lots of Dommes and Dominants on there and my conduct does reflect back on my Master.

Cali x"

sounds to me that they are just trying to convince themselves they are straight

If your a guy who has sex with men and women your bi, even my 10 year old could work that out lol

Someone else mentioned about meeting TVs and being straight i also have a friend that does this, and i feel its him who has the problem with him being bi because hes convinced that meeting a guy that looks like a woman makes him straight, just like your fetish guy probably feels that having forced sex with a guy takes the blame off him so can say hes straight becaused its forced upto on

but at the end of the day its role play, be it TVs or forced sex your putting yourself willingly in that situation so your bi

The real question is.....can i watch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most new messages I get are off "straight" men saying 'would love you to f**k me with that', referring to the strap-on in my profile pic!

I don't understand it either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Most new messages I get are off "straight" men saying 'would love you to f**k me with that', referring to the strap-on in my profile pic!

I don't understand it either

I do. You're a woman f--king them, all be it with a strap-on, not a man. Just 'cos they like being penetrated anally doesn't make them Bi. Wanting it from a Guy is what makes them Bi.

Hippo x

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

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Lots of people enjoy anal play, men and women, it doesn't make a person bi or gay because of it. Don't forget the mans G spot is there, so I am guessing that is why some men like it.

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By *ensualfire88Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

The single most important thing in all of this is that there is a well defined label attached to every sexual activity.

Then people can choose the activities they like, possibly from a 'menu' type system and engage on only those activities with only the gender or genders they have chosen.

If however anybody EVER strays outside the activities listed in the label for their sexuality or gender preference they must immediately change their status to the correct label for the activity they have partaken in.

Once you have moved to a new label, you can NEVER EVER move back down to the original label even if 'It was only once' or 'I was d*unk' or He/she made me do it' etc.

Using this simple and effective system, where each persons sexuality is clearly labelled for all to see, and ensuring that everyone partakes ONLY in the activities listed under that label at all times will have several benefits.

1. People will be able to easily identify others with the same sexual predilections.

2. Like minded people meeting like minded people will lead to more successful meets and cut down on the 'timewaster' factor.

3. People who are straight will not be in peril form any misunderstandings or inappropriate touching on a meet (including of course, being fucked in the ass by the 10" cock of the black guy your wife is so keen to fuck)and thus have a better time.

4. Most importantly, we can all stop repeatedly reading the same moronic fucking arguments on threads about what constitutes the definition of any word beginning with 'bi' which ALWAYS include the phrase "I just don't understand how someone can call themselves straight if..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just can`t see the ambuigity with bisexual..

Bi as a description of someones sexuality needs no clarification fer me..

Someone who likes anal play with the opposite gender isn`t bi...I arrived at that conclusion a long time ago with no fuss..

The problem isn`t the clarification of sexual attraction...as I see it..

More a case of some running with the chickens and chasing with the foxes..with the result that people spend time focusing on futile and foolish opining on something thats beside the point...

If a person engages in sexual acts with both genders, they are bi.....irrespective of their profile information...its the profile that ambigious..not the sexuality..

Its an honesty issue, as others have intimated...nothing more or less..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At a physical level we are all Bi-sexual, it is the mental and emotional state that defines one's self.

At a darwinian level we can only be hetro-sexual it is necessary for our species survival. But as Humans we gave up just having sex just for procreation sometime ago.

*him* I am bi-sexual, in that I enjoy touching and being touched by both sexes....if i'm only my own in bed masterbating do I get a toy out and fuck my arse no !, if her is there and she wants to toy my arse yes !....if she gets so turned on and mentally stimulated by the idea and act of another man entering me and its not painful or uncomfortable then yes I would, have discussed it but not been in a situation yet !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fundamentally, someone who tend to deemed themselves 'straight' - surely wouldn't desire a man or woman to enter anally? anal with a woman surely indicates bi or gay tendencies whether it is with a toy...the male may in fact may deemed such sexual experience as a 'safer bet' without the labeled stigma of being bi or gay...nonetheless practices bi and gay acts (you cannot have the best of both world of being straight, bi and gay at the same time)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fundamentally, someone who tend to deemed themselves 'straight' - surely wouldn't desire a man or woman to enter anally? anal with a woman surely indicates bi or gay tendencies whether it is with a toy...the male may in fact may deemed such sexual experience as a 'safer bet' without the labeled stigma of being bi or gay...nonetheless practices bi and gay acts (you cannot have the best of both world of being straight, bi and gay at the same time)"

We will have to agree to differ on that point.

Enjoying anal penetration isn't about being gay, straight or bi. It's the sex of the person giving it that will determine that.

Hippo x

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

Wouldnt you be better off asking it on the site where you where given abuse??? There the ones that can give you the answers. I have no idea exactly what you asked and what abuse you where given so cant comment

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if she shags him dressed in suspenders and a basque he is str8..

if he asks her to dress as John Wayne.... he bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Master posting

Cali, why did you not just ask me and I would have told you

, men who want a cock up their arse are Gay, men who want to suck another mans cock are gay, men who fancy other men are gay, women who fancy other women are gay ( or Lesbian for the pedants amongst you ) in my opinion ( NOTE ITS ONLY MY OPINION BEFORE THE KEYBOARD WARRIORS GET ON THEIR HIGH HORSES ) their is no such thing as bi curious if you want sex (oral or otherwise ) or intimacy from someone of the same sex you are gay, if you are gay and like sex with the opposite sex also then you are gay with straight tendancies

Masterq81

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

so all bi woman on here are lesbians with straight tendencies ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With respect Masterq81,

If a man or woman likes anal or sex in general with men and women, then they are Bisexual. They may have a leaning more to one than the other, but Homosexual, Gay or Lesbian (for the purists) describes a person of either sex who enjoys sex with their own Gender.

At least, that is what it means to me.

No labels at all would be better, but then who would know what who liked and with whom!!!!!!

Hippo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so all bi woman on here are lesbians with straight tendencies ?"

Yep and that includes Cali

Masterq81

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

changed my mind...

I respect your opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"changed my mind...

I respect your opinion"

Its ok I saw the first post lmao, yes if I decide Cali is a lesbian then thats what she is

Masterq81

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

Blleeeuuurrrrgghhhh!

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"changed my mind...

I respect your opinion

Its ok I saw the first post lmao, yes if I decide Cali is a lesbian then thats what she is

Masterq81"

cool... if she allows someone else to change her sexuality, that is cool with me... how someone defines themself is upto them or anyone they have given that power to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Master - you hijacked my sensible thread.. lol

Cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This will probably ruffle some feathers but the way I see it, its probably the same reason that some "straight" guys have sex with T.V's, it appeases their conscience.

The same thing goes for guys who take it up the arse from a woman, under the guise of prostrate stimulation.

It's bisexuality for guys who like to think themselves straight!

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By *uby In StockingsTV/TS
over a year ago

Cheadle

Cali in my humble opinion I can sum it up for you in one word........denial, hugz n stuff, Ruby, xxxxx

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

Personally I wouldn't go for either....but then I'm straight.

I haven't the slightest interest in having my arse played with in any way, shape or form.

And the thought of some guy gazing up fondly as he sucks my cock and his bristly chin chafes my balls makes my skin creep just writing this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

Nope, not in my book.

It depends on which gender you like indulging in such an activity with.

If it's the same gender, then yes, you're gay, if it's with either gender(not necessarily at the same time, mind you) then you are Bi. If it's with the opposite sex, then you are straight or Heterosexual.

I think the clue is in the definitions of the words Heterosexual, Homosexual, Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual. But then, I may be over simplifying, lol!

Hippo x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

Personally I wouldn't go for either....but then I'm straight.

I haven't the slightest interest in having my arse played with in any way, shape or form.

And the thought of some guy gazing up fondly as he sucks my cock and his bristly chin chafes my balls makes my skin creep just writing this.

Master posting

I could not agree more, they can say whatever they like its out and out gay ( or bi if you like to try and water it down ), oh and dont think that im having a go at gays, im just sau=ying that those gays in b=denial should just get out the closet, they are fooling no one.

Masterq81 ( sorry Cali I did say would leave your thread alone ) )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought ....... I don't get much enjoyment from anal, but I'd rather have a warm malleable cock up my arse than a hard dildo.

Maybe the guys in question feel the same. ( so are straight but seeking comfort as well as pleasure not pain )

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

Personally I wouldn't go for either....but then I'm straight.

I haven't the slightest interest in having my arse played with in any way, shape or form.

And the thought of some guy gazing up fondly as he sucks my cock and his bristly chin chafes my balls makes my skin creep just writing this.

I don't believe I mentioned men sucking cock....but I get where you are coming from as Mr R is straight and wouldn't dream of having a man go near him or him near them.

I just don't get the bit where if a man or woman has anything up their bum that means they are gay.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Just a thought ....... I don't get much enjoyment from anal, but I'd rather have a warm malleable cock up my arse than a hard dildo.

Maybe the guys in question feel the same. ( so are straight but seeking comfort as well as pleasure not pain )

You are now gay, as you have had a cock up your arse.

Damn, this thread is confusing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So does that mean a finger or a butt plug or even a tongue up your arse and you are now gay?

Personally I wouldn't go for either....but then I'm straight.

I haven't the slightest interest in having my arse played with in any way, shape or form.

And the thought of some guy gazing up fondly as he sucks my cock and his bristly chin chafes my balls makes my skin creep just writing this.

I don't believe I mentioned men sucking cock....but I get where you are coming from as Mr R is straight and wouldn't dream of having a man go near him or him near them.

I just don't get the bit where if a man or woman has anything up their bum that means they are gay."

Sorry, I can't see where I mentioned anything about a woman.

However, if a woman wants a guy to fuck her up the bum fair enough, its a heterosexual act and, for the most part, women get penetrated during sex.

Therefore, I can't see how a guy fucking a woman up the bum would make her gay.

I can now hear you saying "Ah ha, gotcha! If a woman does it to a guy that makes it a heterosexual act".

Sorry no, not on my watch.

As I said earlier "women get penetrated" not guys.

A guy craving his arse being fucked by a woman with a dildo, toy or whatever has sexuality issues and needs to have a serious word with himself.

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By (user no longer on site)
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over a year ago

I think im a gay man in a womans body