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We squirted in the wild: Primal Peeing

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

See, I think we've all got this whole squirting thing backwards. We're calling pee something else to make squirting acceptable, but back in the day when we fucked in the wilderness next to the river, women had the pleasure of just letting it go as her hairy caveman grunted on top or from behind. It was probably expected that she would release a warm stream demonstrating - in the form of incontinence - her complete submission and utter defencelessness under his primal dominance!

Whereas men pissed on their property and territory like lions or dogs, women pissed on their men to prove to other women that she's entitled to some of the meat he hunts and to scare other women away so they don't lessen his resources. It was the proof of purchase where the relationship had not yet become the reason for others to back off. It showed that she was a part of his pride.

It's an arrangement of mutual dominance. The man wants hubba hubba and someone to prepare his food, and the woman wants hubba hubba and food. It was purely a business exchange and the woman retained her independence. He did not own her unless she peed on him thereby expressing that she owned him.

Now that the gender wars are making mutual ownership more uncertain, we are returning to our primal urges which are really a strong desire for connection and companionship, wanting to own each other and be owned by each other.

Lastly, men can prove their orgasm with cum. Whereas women's pleasure was denied for a very long time due to not having a discharge. Squirting is not only pleasurable, it's proof of pleasure and the ability to be pleasured. It proves that the woman's orgasm is just as important as the man's. I'll stop there. What are your insights? xx

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By *roticGoddessXXWoman
over a year ago

Richmond

I guess my thoughts are that you are forgetting a few things in your diatribe.

First and foremost is that, historically speaking, women were usually (if not always) the main source of food supplies. While, yes, hunting may or may not have been done by men, gathering food (by far the most reliable source of food) has traditionally been the woman's job.

Secondly, claiming ownership on one's partner is not a long standing tradition. Polygamy does not mean that men had multiple women and women were content with that...multi amorous exploits were enjoyed on both sides.

As for peeing on your property...I think that's best left to cats and dogs. If were were truly territorially inclined, I rather doubt we'd live in close proximity with shared resources.

Next theory?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

It's far more probable that territory was marked by faeces not urine as the smell travelled further and was different to that of other tribes.

There is no evidence to suggest that women were required to demonstrate their submission to men sexually or otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I guess my thoughts are that you are forgetting a few things in your diatribe.

First and foremost is that, historically speaking, women were usually (if not always) the main source of food supplies. While, yes, hunting may or may not have been done by men, gathering food (by far the most reliable source of food) has traditionally been the woman's job.

Secondly, claiming ownership on one's partner is not a long standing tradition. Polygamy does not mean that men had multiple women and women were content with that...multi amorous exploits were enjoyed on both sides.

As for peeing on your property...I think that's best left to cats and dogs. If were were truly territorially inclined, I rather doubt we'd live in close proximity with shared resources.

Next theory?"

You kinda went off target at the very beginning by calling my playful and fictitious post a 'diatribe' which is described in the dictionary as 'a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something.' If that's what you believe, then I can't take you seriously because the whole purpose is to take each other playfully and not seriously. So here's me continuing to do that..


" First and foremost is that, historically speaking, women were usually (if not always) the main source of food supplies. While, yes, hunting may or may not have been done by men, gathering food (by far the most reliable source of food) has traditionally been the woman's job."

Great! Women gathered the vegetables and fruits (which is basically like modern shopping). While men hunted for the meat. Vegetarian men got no nookie because the women could pick their own veggies. He needed to bring an animal in his shoulders. Or maybe been did no hunting at all and the women did everything.. and the man just ate and she squirted on him in exchange for the type of 'meat' (wink) that only a biological man could provide.. you know what I'm sayin


"Secondly, claiming ownership on one's partner is not a long standing tradition. Polygamy does not mean that men had multiple women and women were content with that...multi amorous exploits were enjoyed on both sides."

Actually my theory did not limit multi-amorous exploits at all. In fact, it sets the stage for women ensuring that they get lots of man-meat and compete with other females by pissing on men. You make the mistake of assuming that polyamory and wanting to claim ownership over one's partner are mutually exclusive. That's because you're thinking of primal ownership in terms of relationship instead of resources and survival exchanges. Ownership and claiming of property and resources predates romance and romantic partner claiming. The latter is the newer development.


" As for peeing on your property...I think that's best left to cats and dogs."
I reserve the right to pee on my own property as do countless women and men who pee in each other.


"If were were truly territorially inclined, I rather doubt we'd live in close proximity with shared resources."

That's assuming that women want to acquire their own resources instead of taking it from a man. Shots fired.


"Next theory?"

For you to pee on? Not so fast! What's your theory of why some of us enjoy peeing on each other?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Also there are thousands probably millions of women who don't prove their orgasm by squirting not to mention the women who do squirt and say it isn't an orgasm.

Where does it leave them?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's far more probable that territory was marked by faeces not urine as the smell travelled further and was different to that of other tribes.

There is no evidence to suggest that women were required to demonstrate their submission to men sexually or otherwise."

Not required, but that they found it pleasurable. Desire not require.

So people really want to shit on each other but that isn't socially or sexually accepted yet. Well not in most circles anyway. Pee wasn't accepted either but with the new association with discharges as a sign of pleasure and desire, it's a safer symbol of shitting. We shat in the land to lock out others whom we did not want any contact with at all. But we peed on areas where we interacted with those we depended on for survival. It's competition within the pride rather than between prides

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I’ve squirted twice but it’s not been pleasurable...more of a release of tension (that and it comes from being milked - can’t really stop it).

So I would say that from my own perspective, in your vignette I’d be a piss poor cavewoman!

I’d have wandered off to go hunt something.

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By *are2bedifferentCouple
over a year ago

birstall

I orgasm but don’t squirt lol I believe some women do but I also believe like having a fake orgasm a lot of women fake squirting by weeing lol I love the hubba hubba x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Also there are thousands probably millions of women who don't prove their orgasm by squirting not to mention the women who do squirt and say it isn't an orgasm.

Where does it leave them?"

Hmm an interesting puzzle... Where would they fit? Could it be that they want to squirt but it's just taboo and the man isn't primal enough to be turned on by it? There definitely is an evolutionary benefit to not peeing on each other because we have developed more sophisticated relational ways of symbolically peeing on our partners or claiming our territory in human civilisation. Peeing on each other is a conscious decision to be primal as much as not peeing is a conscious effort to hold the pee back until finding a socially acceptable outlet to release it. In a nutshell pee = filth. Evolutionarily, it's best not to have filth on us. I guess

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I’ve squirted twice but it’s not been pleasurable...more of a release of tension (that and it comes from being milked - can’t really stop it).

So I would say that from my own perspective, in your vignette I’d be a piss poor cavewoman!

I’d have wandered off to go hunt something.

"

Haha, so you don't actually find pleasure in it. Hmm. So would you say that it's more that you're having to hold it in because our social bed etiquette says it's "nasty" to 'squirt' while having sex? My thinking is that back in the days of the jungle that shit would have just been released and not held back if it was there. I'll bet it was messy.

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I’ve squirted twice but it’s not been pleasurable...more of a release of tension (that and it comes from being milked - can’t really stop it).

So I would say that from my own perspective, in your vignette I’d be a piss poor cavewoman!

I’d have wandered off to go hunt something.

Haha, so you don't actually find pleasure in it. Hmm. So would you say that it's more that you're having to hold it in because our social bed etiquette says it's "nasty" to 'squirt' while having sex? My thinking is that back in the days of the jungle that shit would have just been released and not held back if it was there. I'll bet it was messy. "

No Gat, I’m saying that unless some dude wants to piston his fingers in me like a jackhammer on nitrous...nothing is going to come out. Literally has to be forced out of me - I never get that sensation of wanting to pee when I’m having sex. Given the other crazy shit I get up to, I don’t think it has anything to do with social niceties *grins*

Maybe I’m perennially dehydrated?

I bet it was super messy. Like a foam party in Freshers’ week.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I’ve squirted twice but it’s not been pleasurable...more of a release of tension (that and it comes from being milked - can’t really stop it).

So I would say that from my own perspective, in your vignette I’d be a piss poor cavewoman!

I’d have wandered off to go hunt something.

Haha, so you don't actually find pleasure in it. Hmm. So would you say that it's more that you're having to hold it in because our social bed etiquette says it's "nasty" to 'squirt' while having sex? My thinking is that back in the days of the jungle that shit would have just been released and not held back if it was there. I'll bet it was messy.

No Gat, I’m saying that unless some dude wants to piston his fingers in me like a jackhammer on nitrous...nothing is going to come out. Literally has to be forced out of me - I never get that sensation of wanting to pee when I’m having sex. Given the other crazy shit I get up to, I don’t think it has anything to do with social niceties *grins*

Maybe I’m perennially dehydrated?

I bet it was super messy. Like a foam party in Freshers’ week."

I think evolution would place you amongst the descendants of those who evolved to shut those systems off and separate from sex entirely.. (most of us). Like "no, not peeing on you mate...'do me own hunting these days."

Or I could switch to my male reptilian brain which says "hmmm so she's saying I have to force it out of her with a nitrous jackhammering"

Lol I'd love to get up to crazy shit with you sometime. A foam party sounds like good fun!

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By *adame BWoman
over a year ago

C'est moi Boudoir

I think it's more of an involuntary release than a marking of territory. I am not incontinent nor do I control my ability to squirt. I view it as precum, a lovely enhancement to my orgasm. The two are very different for me both pleasurable but not on par.

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