FabSwingers.com forum: Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement... (2)

By *olly_chromatic OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

"Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Got a lot of interest in this last time, and very polarised! Many women saying yes, they see a lot of this behaviour. A fair amount of how dare I insinuate all men like that, from male respondents (nope, I never said all men, just some men...). A few men very outraged that anyone even questioned this type of behaviour on a swinging site! Couples, I think the replies varied depending on whether written by male or female half. Most TV/TS were taking the female viewpoint?

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think of it as a replacement.

Having said that, some of the people I’ve met from here, having told me the stories they have, has led me to believe that it may be true, based on the way that men talk to them.

I suppose the assumption is if you’re paying an escort for sex then you can talk to and treat them however you want (within reason).

We have to be reminded, as frustrating as it is, that time with another must be earned, not expected. Much like children, we need adult supervision and guidance. It’s shit, but it’s a reality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Judging by the messages we get, from the single, straight guys, we honestly believe that the vast majority (+80%) of single, straight guys on here think this is just a site for free sex.

We certainly don't think they are swingers, in terms of the swinging lifestyle.

Seriously, if all you're after us a quick shag, you're DEFINITELY NOT a swinger...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg it ISN'T then?????

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

Nr Rushden Lakes

When I was a Single Twat, I never thought that tbh...I always wanted to connect with interesting, funny women with stories to tell...which describes Bitch very well...oh, and it helps she’s gorgeous and we have amazing and connected sex...(creep)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I was a Single Twat, I never thought that tbh...I always wanted to connect with interesting, funny women with stories to tell...which describes Bitch very well...oh, and it helps she’s gorgeous and we have amazing and connected sex...(creep)

x"
You are part of the 20%

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

They are very easy to ignore tho and it is very easy to work out who they are. Fab does seem to have had an influx of men like this over the last year. Possibley due to the increased publicity in the tabloid press.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think I fully understand what it is you're saying OP..

In what way are some single males treating women like a prostitute?

Wham, bam! Never to be seen again?

Or something much more sinister than that?

I guess with the Wham, bammers... They didn't feel the experience was good enough to want to repeat? Or maybe they're number notching? Or using you to get veris in the hope others they are more interested in take their profiles more seriously?

A lot of men just get very horny occasionally, to the point they'll shag just about anyone just to cure the itch.

Trying to answer a question without fully understanding it wasn't very clever, so sorry of my answers are bizarre

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Judging by the messages we get, from the single, straight guys, we honestly believe that the vast majority (+80%) of single, straight guys on here think this is just a site for free sex.

*this*

Much worse over the last 12 months or so.

It usually goes like this -

-get message from early twenties young lad that has totally ignored our profile, joined Fab within the last 12 hours, but says 'Do you want to fuck today'? -

-we read message, but ignore it -

-48 hours later - "User is no longer on site" -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?"

Some men clearly do as you get all types of people on here who do all kinds of things. Some will get turned on by paying for sex. And a lot of people have posted saying they've been offered money for "services".

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

Nr Rushden Lakes

xYou are part of the 20%

...and it worked for me...it’s tough as a single man but not impossible...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a nonsense. I've been on here as a single a few times, realise now it was easier about three or four years back. Having never paid for sex I can't comment on that but for me it was a way of meeting people with less hangups ( not really the case, there's plenty neurotics here)

There is a definite influx of singles now but the effort they need to put in and the hoops they need to jump through to impress some of the snobs on here that think they are something special amazes me.

Guys, if you can't get your hole off one of the common dating sites ( rhymes with "Boff" and "Snatch" )

You might as well take up knitting.....

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By *oupleofkooksCouple
over a year ago

local

#notallmen

It’s all fun and games till someone says no.

While it seems to be aimed at single men (they’re probably the largest demographic) we’ve had women and couples guilty of this too.

Seems to be a sense of entitlement more then anything else. Mommy and daddy should’ve told them “no” more often.

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By *laction manMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

Nr Rushden Lakes

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

Harsh...beauty is within...no, seriously...

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

Some sweeping statements here

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I don't think it's seen as a replacement for prostitutes by most men (at least not consciously anyway) but I DO think there are a lot of single guys who have a complete misconception about the site and how it works.

They here about it from a work mate, or stumble across it whilst trawling the net for porn and think it signals instant access to as much sex as they can handle just at the click of a button without the need to put any effort in (to their profile, their messages, the way they behave etc).

When that perception is shattered and they get nowhere - the sense of entitlement and frustration gets stronger and manifests itself in whiny status updates, moaning forum posts and abusive messages - usually blaming everyone but themselves for their lack of "success".

So I don't think it comes down to seeing the site as a replacement for prostitutes more a complete misconception as to what the site is about and how it operates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material

Some sweeping statements here

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oooooooo I know got my besom in hand

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

Quite some time ago now, I funded myself through university working as a prostitute / escort / call girl... (Call me what you will) and my clients were a lot more polite and articulate then most of the messages I get from men on here (and I'm not looking for men).

I would argue that often, in a way that really needs some reflection by all parties, if a man is paying for you, he has slightly more respect for you then some of the single men demanding meets on here.

*Said with a sad face and a very deep sigh*

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By *MNJCouple
over a year ago

Nuneaton

There are plenty of couples who seem to want the fuck and run thing too and if a single guy is good looking enough there are probably women as well, if it's what both parties want (a casual hookup with very little connection) I don't see the problem but I wouldn't say that is a replacement for a prostitute as it's mutually beneficial. The person still has to want to fuck you to actually proceed with the "transaction" which means it is beneficial on their part whereas a prostitute doesn't want to fuck you or you wouldn't have to pay them.

What gets me is people who think swinging=hooker we've had no end of offers of money (well Mrs has, I've not had any funnily enough

) to do varying things from standing in underwear, to watching us fuck to just fucking E if they're lucky I read the message and they just get trolled, if they're unlucky they get the less polite response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

As with the fact some men use this site like one staffed with hookers, this is also true. Fortunately both these types are in the extreme minority!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can call myself a single male

but come on...it seems like you put all of them in the same pot.

Me for example, it can tell a NO from miles away and back down, always polite and respect everyone's decisions and points of view. I've seen more couples being rude and disrespectful towards single males (me).

Well, it is only my humble opinnion and I could be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find a lot of single males, mainly the older generation, still cannot get to grips with happilly single, independent women wanting to meet men for nsa sex purely for their own pleasure as opposed to being on here to please guys.

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

Its an interesting topic OP, and one I think many forumites (mainly female) will agree with to an extent. However, Forumites (their opinions and behaviours) are just a fraction of the Fab population and in many respects their views are somewhat skewed.

Taking an overview of Fab as a whole, I would agree that many (not all) men do seem to treat Fab as a source of free/cheap prostitution. However, there are a vast amount of women on Fab (rarely to be found on the Forums), who enable this type of behaviour. My local updates vacillates between reading like a Shakespearean comedy and tragedy... You'll have a woman post a quick meet on a Friday or post a status saying she's lying in bed and run out of smokes/wine/cheese puffs... Saturday morning there'll be a new veri saying how some random guy 'came to this horny damsel's rescue at 4am... She met me at the door in her dressing gown and nothing underneath... made me cum like a rocket... Well worth a visit' (which to other's reads 'will give bj for 20 Marlboro'). There will be a smug status from lady in question saying how she was almost pinned to the ceiling by a geyser of cum last night.... And then on Sunday there'll be a sniffly status saying all men are pricks and its time to give Fab a break (until at least next Friday when the cycle repeats itself), and I'll have received a random message from her latest ermm 'conquest' telling me he's lying in bed with a hangover horn and would love nothing better than if I'd pop around and help him out with it...

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Blimey PlayD8 I'm moving to near you, your local updates are comedy gold and far more interesting than the ones I get!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have so many options to avoid them. I can understand the frustration. But isn't it a bit extreme to bring up feminism into all this?

Just asking...And I have nothing against feminism!

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By *ryst In IsoldeWoman
over a year ago

your imagination

"Blimey PlayD8 I'm moving to near you, your local updates are comedy gold and far more interesting than the ones I get!!

I've actually had to opt out of appearing in/receiving local updates anymore because my eyes were in danger of rolling out of my head

and I was constantly fighting the urge to contact these idiots and explain to them in simple words of one or two syllables (or text speak... They seem to favour that), why it is that the men they meet keep treating them like whores lol.

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

"You have so many options to avoid them. I can understand the frustration. But isn't it a bit extreme to bring up feminism into all this?

Just asking...And I have nothing against feminism!

Not sure anyone has bought up feminism have they? The closest to it was the suggestion that some men see women as "lesser" still and it was a valid point but I didn't take it as feminism being bought into it at all.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Unless prostitutes get to choose from hundreds of guys and pick which one they like enough to want to have sex with I can't see the link

It doesn't matter if some guys think fab girls are like free prostitutes as it's the women who have the power.

From my point of view I certainly don't think that about fab women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find a lot of single males, mainly the older generation, still cannot get to grips with happilly single, independent women wanting to meet men for nsa sex purely for their own pleasure as opposed to being on here to please guys.

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fishing for easy brownie points, there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The ones who talk like that make our selection as a woman easy. Knobheads, please continue to send knobby messages - most helpful

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

The majority of single men on here are not swingers in any sense, as they don't want to go to parties or clubs. They prefer a quick discrete meet one on one just for a BJ or fuck, I didn't join this site for that.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

That attitude is what's wrong with some single guys,this is a swingers site not a sex site and if you can't deal with it go to a sex site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

That attitude is what's wrong with some single guys,this is a swingers site not a sex site and if you can't deal with it go to a sex site.

It's a sex site for us so we'll just carry on as we are thank you

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

Are you honestly saying that a woman who comes on fab and has pics on her profile of her in "various states of undress" should expect to be treated like a prostitute ?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I think that it is up there in the top 10 crack pot theory's I've read on fab

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

Are you honestly saying that a woman who comes on fab and has pics on her profile of her in "various states of undress" should expect to be treated like a prostitute ?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I think that it is up there in the top 10 crack pot theory's I've read on fab"

I'm saying they shouldn't act so bloody surprised and pissed off when some guys do. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

Nr Rushden Lakes

Fishing for easy brownie points, there?

Always lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The men who think women,in scantily clad photos on this site, who assume we will fuck them,because they are horny and need sex right now, will soon learn it's not going to be that easy. They may get a quick fuck occasionally, but I'm hazarding a guess it doesn't work often.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

Are you honestly saying that a woman who comes on fab and has pics on her profile of her in "various states of undress" should expect to be treated like a prostitute ?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I think that it is up there in the top 10 crack pot theory's I've read on fab

I'm saying they shouldn't act so bloody surprised and pissed off when some guys do. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately "

And ignoring and blocking those beasts is easy. Some men can see photos of women and not assume they are up for it. They will send the nice, interesting messages to see if there's mutual attraction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bookmarked and quietly sitting in corner reading.

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By *eziahWoman
over a year ago

Hull

I don't know that men see it as an alternative to prostitutes per se, maybe more to pulling on a Saturday night without the expense or effort of having to go into town, or the need to be even a little bit charming.

There is certainly a percentage who exhibit the mindset that just because a woman is on here she will readily jump into bed with almost anyone and definitely them; a carnal expectation due to perceiving sexual gratification being offered on a plate.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

So is this the male or the female of the couple responding?

How much does the female charge please? I have a few from your area who are looking for a cheap slaggy prostitute. If she's a freeby then that would be great......

All said in jest of course. Just because I am here does not mean I am a free prostitute. Thankfully I have enough self worth to know that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am not bothered if guys just want sex... I just want sex with guys...

I have all the friends and love i need outside Fab.

Admittedly there are many on here who want "chemistry", "compatibility" and numerous socials first. The sort of semi -emotional tests you apply before making them your boy friend.

Some even want hotel rooms paid for and gifts!!!

Good luck to them but I can see that "fancy a fuck?" would be unwelcome for them.

As i see it most men on here are not looking for a wife or girlfriend... Most married men are looking for sex in a way their wife can't or won't give it.

Its a free country. If you dont like their approach.... block and move on. There are thousands out there..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You have so many options to avoid them. I can understand the frustration. But isn't it a bit extreme to bring up feminism into all this?

Just asking...And I have nothing against feminism!

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I could be a soft side of feminism...to be honest every man has a side of misogyny, it's in our nature, but on the other side it can be over run with respect.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"They are very easy to ignore tho and it is very easy to work out who they are. Fab does seem to have had an influx of men like this over the last year. Possibley due to the increased publicity in the tabloid press."

Most young men I chat to have been recommended Fab by their friends! And yes - they do seem to be given the impression that it’s just a good place to get a quality, no strings shag!

Many are shocked when I tell them I don’t play until we’ve had a drink to see if we click - i think they expect to just turn up at the door and shag!

I don’t judge though - this is exactly what some women and couples are looking for too - not just men! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

So is this the male or the female of the couple responding?

How much does the female charge please? I have a few from your area who are looking for a cheap slaggy prostitute. If she's a freeby then that would be great......

All said in jest of course. Just because I am here does not mean I am a free prostitute. Thankfully I have enough self worth to know that. "

A message like your joke one is easily ignored. Some people are cunts and it's really not worth getting in any way bent out of shape about it because it's not gonna change anytime soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

Are you honestly saying that a woman who comes on fab and has pics on her profile of her in "various states of undress" should expect to be treated like a prostitute ?

You're entitled to your opinion of course but I think that it is up there in the top 10 crack pot theory's I've read on fab"

I couldn’t agree more!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

So is this the male or the female of the couple responding?

How much does the female charge please? I have a few from your area who are looking for a cheap slaggy prostitute. If she's a freeby then that would be great......

All said in jest of course. Just because I am here does not mean I am a free prostitute. Thankfully I have enough self worth to know that.

A message like your joke one is easily ignored. Some people are cunts and it's really not worth getting in any way bent out of shape about it because it's not gonna change anytime soon. "

Would you like to answer my questions tho?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading carefully through all the posts it reads mostly like:

I think or I feel which is particularly important as feelings about something can be effected by many outside and inside influences. This makes it very difficult to see any sense of reality to the perceptions being offered.

One thing that does seem clear from reading through all comments is that single me, single women and couples are all guilty of using this 'sex' site (If people would be honest it is a swing site in name but mostly a sex site in practice, it has changed alot over the 6/7years) for their own gratification firstly over others. It is not something to label single men only. My experience at the two clubs I went too has been that couples treated me a single guy as some 'meat' for their own pleasure. I'd never go again as a result.

Maybe some here need to ask why they feel like a prostitute. Are they attracting the wrong type of people? If so why is that, what image are they portraying?

Someone raised the F word. I might add that I'd say feminism has some responsibility in that feminism didn't just bring good changes with it. It also brings bad changes too which are indicative to human nature natter what sex one is.

It's interesting reading some comments which show that feeling like being used as a prostitute isn't about monetary exchange or contract as many say or like to compartmentalise but it's sometimes about how they're being used.

If we're to use fab for our own gratification then there will be those we use who feel like this. If we see this as mutual gratification then it's much less likely and more akin to older swinging.

Perceptions play a massive part in how we feel about ourselves and how we project onto others those feelings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

This is true and it’s wrong, but on balance I’d rather be treated like a potential date than a prostitute!

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over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

It is for them. You're allowed to treat this place however you like, provided you're not hurting anyone.

My advice, if you're struggling with finding what you want, is to simply be clear and honest on your profile about it.

If you're just after NSA sex, or after a regular friend with benefits or a full on relationship.. this is a place all of those things can be found at the moment.

If the owners of Fab deem that's acceptable.. then it's tough shit for anyone else who disagrees with them. Get off your arse and make your own site if you're one of those people who thinks it is/isn't for certain people.

Hell there are many on here who say they don't meet at all.. but contribute meaningfully to the Forum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not bothered if guys just want sex... I just want sex with guys...

I have all the friends and love i need outside Fab.

Admittedly there are many on here who want "chemistry", "compatibility" and numerous socials first. The sort of semi -emotional tests you apply before making them your boy friend.

Some even want hotel rooms paid for and gifts!!!

Good luck to them but I can see that "fancy a fuck?" would be unwelcome for them.

As i see it most men on here are not looking for a wife or girlfriend... Most married men are looking for sex in a way their wife can't or won't give it.

Its a free country. If you dont like their approach.... block and move on. There are thousands out there..

Do you fuck every one who asks you?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i would never say that was the case with all men.... but you can definately see that type of attitude and it is spreading.....

some of the newer influx seem not to take rejection well.... or have migrated from other dating sites thinking that this place means far less effort needed than those

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

Do they? Or do they just want some human interaction and chemistry before sex, ie not to be a free prostitute?

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

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"Reading carefully through all the posts it reads mostly like:

Maybe some here need to ask why they feel like a prostitute. Are they attracting the wrong type of people? If so why is that, what image are they portraying?

If we're to use fab for our own gratification then there will be those we use who feel like this. If we see this as mutual gratification then it's much less likely and more akin to older swinging.

Perceptions play a massive part in how we feel about ourselves and how we project onto others those feelings."

Thank you, that’s a very thoughtful and insightful post. With respect to changes that have occurred through the advent of feminism, I partially agree, but any social change has a combination of effects. Progress is never linear and always positive...however, the alternative of retaining the then status quo is clearly worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Most young men I chat to have been recommended Fab by their friends! And yes - they do seem to be given the impression that it’s just a good place to get a quality, no strings shag!

Many are shocked when I tell them I don’t play until we’ve had a drink to see if we click - i think they expect to just turn up at the door and shag!

I don’t judge though - this is exactly what some women and couples are looking for too - not just men! X"

Which would be the same as a knocking shop-without the money handed over.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

"Reading carefully through all the posts it reads mostly like:

Maybe some here need to ask why they feel like a prostitute. Are they attracting the wrong type of people? If so why is that, what image are they portraying?

If we're to use fab for our own gratification then there will be those we use who feel like this. If we see this as mutual gratification then it's much less likely and more akin to older swinging.

Perceptions play a massive part in how we feel about ourselves and how we project onto others those feelings."

What image do I portray? Well mine is quite obvious I don't meet men off here. However as an experiment I have selected 'looking for men' this morning. Since doing that alone 25 'meet now' messages and 3 'how much for a meet' Maybe less of the victim shaming attitude is needed and people need to be responsible for their own behaviours. Now removed thank god.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First world problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reading carefully through all the posts it reads mostly like:

Maybe some here need to ask why they feel like a prostitute. Are they attracting the wrong type of people? If so why is that, what image are they portraying?

If we're to use fab for our own gratification then there will be those we use who feel like this. If we see this as mutual gratification then it's much less likely and more akin to older swinging.

Perceptions play a massive part in how we feel about ourselves and how we project onto others those feelings.

It's blaming women for men's bad behaviour. Men don't get the blame when women treat them as sex objects (think Dreamboys events).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

Damn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"First world problem."

I bet it happens in 2nd and 3rd world countries too Shag.

How many women are told it's their fault, when a man attacks them, because they showed a little flesh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I should like to meet a MF couple or single female for regular fun and to be friends,do social things also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Judging by the messages we get, from the single, straight guys, we honestly believe that the vast majority (+80%) of single, straight guys on here think this is just a site for free sex.

We certainly don't think they are swingers, in terms of the swinging lifestyle.

Seriously, if all you're after us a quick shag, you're DEFINITELY NOT a swinger... "

Sadly this is exactly the same as my experience on this site and a couple of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The ones who talk like that make our selection as a woman easy. Knobheads, please continue to send knobby messages - most helpful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

I do that, Inonly want to meet a guy that wants more than just a fuck. I want a swinging relationship so why not try to meet someone here? You’d be surprised how many guys want the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either.

I do that, Inonly want to meet a guy that wants more than just a fuck. I want a swinging relationship so why not try to meet someone here? You’d be surprised how many guys want the same. "

*i only

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either.

It is for them. You're allowed to treat this place however you like, provided you're not hurting anyone.

My advice, if you're struggling with finding what you want, is to simply be clear and honest on your profile about it.

If you're just after NSA sex, or after a regular friend with benefits or a full on relationship.. this is a place all of those things can be found at the moment.

Hell there are many on here who say they don't meet at all.. but contribute meaningfully to the Forum."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

It may not be in reality, but if you Google 'top 10 dating sites uk', Fab is in there described as such! So you can understand some people's confusion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"First world problem.

I bet it happens in 2nd and 3rd world countries too Shag.

How many women are told it's their fault, when a man attacks them, because they showed a little flesh? "
That is right, that happens too.

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over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either.

It may not be in reality, but if you Google 'top 10 dating sites uk', Fab is in there described as such! So you can understand some people's confusion.

It be interesting in asking that very question. Think I may just do that in a new post. My guess is that it'll show that fab is not a swing site, not a date site, not a nsa site, not a sex site, not a fantasy site but rather it's all of those. But there will be those who use it mainly for any one of those....its made up of diversity of membership and probably no majority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?"

Now i will just say MT responding here. (Male)

What we have seen and experienced that there are a few on here that feel that there is an entitlement to sleep with a woman just because they are swingers.

Alot of it i feel is based on the core thinking of what they think swinging means to them.

You do have the any hole is a goal and these tend to be after self satisfication so do not care who they sleep with. This is primarily a male trait but not always.

Then there are thise that feel that woman who swing are easy and as such justify their behaviour and feel that their is nothing wrong with their messages.

Honestly i feel that there are two causes for this. First how society sees swinging or ethical non monogamy. But also alot if the issues is around communication.

I wonder of alot of us have forgotten how to connect with each other on a human level. Are we letting basically binary code strip away the emotion, leaving gaps and holes for miscommunication.

As we do more and more on social medi, are people losing the ability to communocate in a positive respectful manner.

Its easy for people to type and send passive aggressive posts because as soon as you press send it has gone into the space nd we no longer hold ourselves responsible for how the message is received at the other end.

This can be seen every day on fab as people send messages and speak to people in a way that we would not even dare to face to face with someone.

It used to be said we were all simply humans until race disconnected us, religion separated us, politics divided us and wealth classified us. But in this tech age the problem of disconnection and postive communication is getting worse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How many women are told it's their fault, when a man attacks them, because they showed a little flesh? That is right, that happens too."

Pretty good article, I've just found.

There are many factors that contribute to the occurrence of sexual violence. It is important to understand that perpetrators, not victims are responsible for sexual violence happening. Perpetrators have a strong sense of entitlement and use power and control to commit acts of sexual violence. Most perpetrators adhere to rigid “traditional” gender roles that focus on the inequality of women. This allows them to treat women and the targeted victim with no regard or respect.

It is also important to look at other factors that contribute to sexual violence occurring sucah as those that are used to justify or excuse sexual violence. Gender-based stereotypes reinforce inequality between genders.

For example, in a society where men are portrayed as being aggressive and women are seen as passive, a man who pressures a woman for sex is often perceived as behaving acceptably. Gender-based stereotypes are reinforced throughout society and can be seen in pop culture and media.

Research indicates that alcohol and other drugs are often used by the perpetrator to incapacitate victims1. That means that alcohol and other drugs, while they do not cause sexual violence are contributing factors to the occurrence of sexual violence.

Finally, victim blaming behavior and beliefs create a culture where we disregard sexual violence by blaming a victim. While this is not a cause of sexual violence, it is a factor that contributes to a society where we do not hold perpetrators accountable for their behavior and therefore encourage and support further acts of sexual violence. Victim blaming happens in many ways and can be defined as any assumption that a victim is responsible for the crime committed against them based on the way s/he behaves, dresses or lives. Such beliefs add to the prevalence of sexual violence.

http://vpva.rutgers.edu/sexual-violence/why-does-sexual-violence-occur/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am not bothered if guys just want sex... I just want sex with guys...

I have all the friends and love i need outside Fab.

Admittedly there are many on here who want "chemistry", "compatibility" and numerous socials first. The sort of semi -emotional tests you apply before making them your boy friend.

Some even want hotel rooms paid for and gifts!!!

Good luck to them but I can see that "fancy a fuck?" would be unwelcome for them.

As i see it most men on here are not looking for a wife or girlfriend... Most married men are looking for sex in a way their wife can't or won't give it.

Its a free country. If you dont like their approach.... block and move on. There are thousands out there..

Do you fuck every one who asks you?"

No. I fuck the ones I ask!!

I don't apply the same picky tests to casual meets as I would to a potential partner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Men get treated like shit on here hardly any replies etc. Its just as bad as on pof and other datin sites. Im not bad lookin lad, but some on here don't like big beards just as i dont like certain size womem. Horses for courses

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By *ubicon MangoMan
over a year ago

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Been off fabs, for 12 months, i have received more interests of blokes than ladies...lol

When i speak to reguler playmates. Shocked how single blokes talk to women. Fcuking hell guys get a grip!

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By *ampshirehotwifeWoman
over a year ago

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It's unfair to tar everyone with the same brush (so to speak).. However, we have had messages from guys of all ages, saying that they've had the site recommended to them by their mates and they do seem to come across as wanting a quick shag and go. It seems that this site is being treated as though it is one of the dating sites.

And..... It's not just guys, why else are some of the single women here?? Double standards??

Swinging is more a lifestyle.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

Don’t know what prostitutes you know but my son witnessed one assault a guy in the street with a bag. He was working the doors at a pub and had to call the police.

In any walk of life you’ll get a variety of people. It’s harsh to comment on the way anyone looks. Not everyone is attracted to super models anyway.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

""Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?"

Living close to the airport and Glasgow city centre I get messages from guys who are ‘in town’ and have a hotel room. All they want is a one night stand and so yes in this instance guys are using the site as ‘sex on tap’. Usually not even asking for a social meet but expecting a stranger to come to their room late at night. These guys are often travelling from place to place on a regular basis. They get a response from me usually highlighting the fact that I value my personal safety.

It does get a bit tiresome being on the receiving end of such messages when all it would take is a bit more consideration and even an invite for a coffee at a more reasonable hour. I did accept such an offer and did have fun after chatting for quite a while but otherwise I wouldn’t have gone. All it takes is a bit more effort.

I presume some women do the same as well. I have met a guy when I was in London at a conference but I’d met him before at a club in Glasgow and we had kept in touch.

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over a year ago

I would definitely say that in my experience, there are a group of men who do view Fab as a way to get quick and easy sex with absolutely no effort.

Yesterday I had a message from a guy I had never spoken to before, and his entire message was basically: 'I love to lick women's bums, can I come and lick yours?' Seriously? No introduction or asking how we were or enquiring about what we were looking for... just - I have this fantasy, so do it for me.

And yes, we also get a large amount of messages from single guys, usually late at night, that are basically: I'm horny, are you free to meet right now?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So obviously lots of guys think this place is a free replacement for AW, then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah paid muh supporter fee now ah wants muh poonany.

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By *he Big Five OhhMan
over a year ago

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Replacent for a prostitutue..hardly.i could get one quite easy in Brizzle..

As for a meet....

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago

Burton

Yes, there are many who view this site as a free alternative to getting a prostitute. Also those who use it to create a very real fantasy for them to jerk off to.

Many reasons for this. The ease of signing up and total anonymity it provides. A few clicks and you're looking at real people fucking on webcam, for free. How brilliant is that!

The perception that all the women here are "easy". Brought on by watching too much porn and how swinging is portrayed in the media. It's still all carkeys in a bowl bollocks. Porn skews your view on sex and the portrayal of women as things, rather than people who can chose who they fuck.

And the stigma still attached to seeing a prostitute is very real. For some reason, paying for a service you enjoy is seen as so much worse than spending a month of Sundays on here fruitlessly banging out "wanna fuk" emails to people you have no hope of doing so with. But guys will spend hours doing that, rather than paying for a sure thing.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

"Yes, there are many who view this site as a free alternative to getting a prostitute. Also those who use it to create a very real fantasy for them to jerk off to.

Many reasons for this. The ease of signing up and total anonymity it provides. A few clicks and you're looking at real people fucking on webcam, for free. How brilliant is that!

Ain't that the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think it's seen as a replacement for prostitutes by most men (at least not consciously anyway) but I DO think there are a lot of single guys who have a complete misconception about the site and how it works.

So I don't think it comes down to seeing the site as a replacement for prostitutes more a complete misconception as to what the site is about and how it operates."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of single females/trans treat fab like its a dating site, and it’s not that either."

As a swingers site it’s actually a lot closer to being a dating site than people realise. Swinging has typically involved a social element, ie go out for a drink/bite to eat prior to play. This is not particularly unusual amongst swinging couples. But a lot of single guys stand aghast at this practice. I suspect they are thinking ‘OMG I couldn’t possibly go out for a drink - I left the dating sites to get away from that bullshit! This is where the other mainstream swingers site has the right idea for having the word ‘dating’ in its title.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

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over a year ago

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

So is this the male or the female of the couple responding?

How much does the female charge please? I have a few from your area who are looking for a cheap slaggy prostitute. If she's a freeby then that would be great......

All said in jest of course. Just because I am here does not mean I am a free prostitute. Thankfully I have enough self worth to know that.

A message like your joke one is easily ignored. Some people are cunts and it's really not worth getting in any way bent out of shape about it because it's not gonna change anytime soon.

Would you like to answer my questions tho?"

It was Mr who commented but I do agree with him. We get messages...some sexual and which it's my prerogative to choose not to meet those who send messages of that nature I'm certainly not going to get offended when I have pics off me naked on here. I just politely decline and don't give it another thought x

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over a year ago

"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

I think people complain about there own personal experiences of Fab. For example, from what I can see from Fab, and our experience of Fab, is that there are a hell of men who came here because they regarded this site as instashag - probably at least half if not more. Do women and couples have the same attitude? Probably some, but it’s not obvious to me. And I’ve yet to see men come of the Forums complaining that women and couples treat this place as instashag. At the end of the day people will comment on the obvious.

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Judging by the messages we get, from the single, straight guys, we honestly believe that the vast majority (+80%) of single, straight guys on here think this is just a site for free sex.

We certainly don't think they are swingers, in terms of the swinging lifestyle.

Seriously, if all you're after us a quick shag, you're DEFINITELY NOT a swinger... "

Very well said xxx

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"It's unfair to tar everyone with the same brush (so to speak).. However, we have had messages from guys of all ages, saying that they've had the site recommended to them by their mates and they do seem to come across as wanting a quick shag and go. It seems that this site is being treated as though it is one of the dating sites.

And..... It's not just guys, why else are some of the single women here?? Double standards??

Swinging is more a lifestyle.

Swinging is about the social side as well as the sexual side..xx

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

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"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs"

You make a very good point. It will always be about one's own perspective of course. It just baffles me that people seem to be surprised that fab doesn't work the same for everybody. Plenty of people of both sexes, couples and whatever persuasion are here to fuck and nothing else. They came here for instashag and get it.

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over a year ago

"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs"

True...conscious bias/ unconscious bias affected by environment and experiences.

But let's be honest, everyone in some way is being used to fulfill another's needs?

Couples don't contact men to help them out;they do it to fulfill their own needs and fantasies.

Though the subject has been done to death, it's fair to say a contingent of men do treat the site as means to get an instant shag if possible....BUT...that only works if someone offers it?

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Quite some time ago now, I funded myself through university working as a prostitute / escort / call girl... (Call me what you will) and my clients were a lot more polite and articulate then most of the messages I get from men on here (and I'm not looking for men).

*Said with a sad face and a very deep sigh*"

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over a year ago

"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs

True...conscious bias/ unconscious bias affected by environment and experiences.

But let's be honest, everyone in some way is being used to fulfill another's needs?

Couples don't contact men to help them out;they do it to fulfill their own needs and fantasies.

Though the subject has been done to death, it's fair to say a contingent of men do treat the site as means to get an instant shag if possible....BUT...that only works if someone offers it? "

Yes, our starting point is that we are here for our own selfish reasons. However, the minute an Internet profile becomes a real person and a mutual interest is established, then we stop being selfish. At that point we are dealing with a human being with their own needs which are just as important as our needs. And we will say to men ‘what do you want from us?’

With regards to men who use this site as instashag, I don’t think it’s because someone is offering it, I think it’s because they are misguided. However if I were to decide I wanted instashag with anyone, I could probably do it without annoying anyone - I’d be in the minority with plenty of men wanting the same.

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over a year ago

"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs

They are in the minority though, so it doesn’t cause so much irritation. And there will be plenty of men who welcome those women and couples

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

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"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs

They are in the minority though, so it doesn’t cause so much irritation. And there will be plenty of men who welcome those women and couples"
I quite like the idea of instashag what a great idea for a site

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over a year ago

"I have more of an issue with the fact that it always seems to be implied that men only have the instashag attitude. That is far from the case.

Mrs

They are in the minority though, so it doesn’t cause so much irritation. And there will be plenty of men who welcome those women and couplesI quite like the idea of instashag what a great idea for a site"

It would be crap. I would be 99% men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've met women here selling their goods too...

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Many men still see women as the "lesser" sex unfortunately

It is the sense of entitlement and the inability to take no for an answer that is the problem of many men on here

And the older ones are the worst in my experience

So you're quite happy that the women can use the men for their own pleasure but when it's a guy using a woman we need to listen to all this free prostitute pish.

To answer the op...if you don't want guys treating you as a free prostitute then don't come on a sex site and post pics of yourself in various states of undress

Makes no difference if you are clothed or not in my experience. My pics are now all friends only and I get treated no differently from when I had some of them public.

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over a year ago

I think it's partly correct that some men (not all) think this way.

We help run a monthly social and advertise it as a 'no play meet and greet social'.

strangely most seem to have no pics or verifications

When we point out thats it's just a meet and greet social in a bar they disappear

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By *hamboy69Man
over a year ago

huddersfield

"I think it's partly correct that some men (not all) think this way.

We help run a monthly social and advertise it as a 'no play meet and greet social'.

The guys that come are genuine and respectable but we can get inundated with messages from guys asking what are the girls like and will there be many there, how much sex happens, will I get any action and is it actually free etc etc That’s a shame I attended a social on Friday and the place was only half full but I bet most of the guys who didn’t show up will be on here moaning.Socials can set a guy up if he attends with the right attitude so I always try supporting them whenever possible

strangely most seem to have no pics or verifications

When we point out thats it's just a meet and greet social in a bar they disappear"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its an interesting topic OP, and one I think many forumites (mainly female) will agree with to an extent. However, Forumites (their opinions and behaviours) are just a fraction of the Fab population and in many respects their views are somewhat skewed.

That's got to be one of the best things Ive read on here. So very true.. and funny as fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I frequently reply to messages along the lines of “hey I’m at this or that hotel, my room number is so and so, would love for you to come over” with a very polite “why don’t you just hire a professional?”.

In the very first line of my page I mention that I’m not seeking NSA....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

PREACH!!!

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

The trouble is the men who send stupid messages and have no respect, don't read profiles and probably don't bother to read threads like this either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have to admit to feeling like a free prostitute on a couple of meets - due to poor judgement on my part

It's interesting to read what D8 wrote about her local updates

Mine are all married / attatched men looking for TV / TS

Even if I was a free prostitute I think I have the wrong bits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the portrayal of women as things, rather than people who can chose who they fuck.

This!

“The dominance heirarcy is a selection mechanism mediated by female choice.”

Jordan Peterson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

""Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?"

I asked this question a week back and everyone replying just explained the difference between swinging and prostitution. I was more asking why there's such a negative stigma surrounding prostitution even though the only difference between that and porn is the video camera. I love questions of ethics like this. Only problem is it makes you realise how many people are conditioned to be society's puppets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get the first bit of what you said

For me the first 2 weeks on here were all about chasing sex until i found the forums and started to actually have conversations with people and realized thats no longer what i want im learning a lot about myself that i didnt know

Im still not 100% what i want but im not just chasing the next lay as i was before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

'The prostitute is not, as feminists claim, the victim of men, but rather their conqueror, an outlaw, who controls the sexual channels between nature and culture'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'The prostitute is not, as feminists claim, the victim of men, but rather their conqueror, an outlaw, who controls the sexual channels between nature and culture'"

maybe a wander around a street where teenagers are offering blowjobs for a fiver, then dropping the price to something to eat at 2am might change your perception a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'The prostitute is not, as feminists claim, the victim of men, but rather their conqueror, an outlaw, who controls the sexual channels between nature and culture'

maybe a wander around a street where teenagers are offering blowjobs for a fiver, then dropping the price to something to eat at 2am might change your perception a bit."

Camille Paglia quote by the way.

Or maybe a walk around the thriving red light districts in south east Asia where women earn more than doctors would change your perspective....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"'The prostitute is not, as feminists claim, the victim of men, but rather their conqueror, an outlaw, who controls the sexual channels between nature and culture'

maybe a wander around a street where teenagers are offering blowjobs for a fiver, then dropping the price to something to eat at 2am might change your perception a bit."

PLEASE check out the TED talk by Juno Mac regarding this topic!! (:

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

""Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement for prostitutes?"

Is anyone interested in taking this discussion further? Possibly broadening out, could even turn into some kind of "gender studies 101"?"

well considering some of the "ladies" (I mean that in THE loosest possible term) look for gifts and financial rewards for meets I guess the site at times is not a FREE replacement for prostitutes but merely a site where some "women" think it's ok to prostitute themselves under the banner of swinging.

Plus you state that "nope, I never said all men, just some men..." when in fact your title says "Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement" this does indeed include all single men does it not?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

The oracle has spoken

My new favourite person on here

although you could also have referenced that kids movie about the dolls with the big hair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" Plus you state that "nope, I never said all men, just some men..." when in fact your title says "Single men behaving as if fab is a free replacement" this does indeed include all single men does it not?"

No absalutely not, the statement ‘single men behaving as if Fab is a free replacement’, does not mean all single men. The statement is only referring to the single men who behave like that. It’s not usual in the English language to add the word ‘some’ to a statement like that.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs

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over a year ago

Mrs

Besides, for those in doubt about what she actually meant, the OP goes on to eloquently explain her statement, in which she states that she is referring to a ‘few single men’. I’m at a loss as to how anybody could have misunderstood the OP to think she was referring to all men.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

Mrs

When one is making a statement about others it helps if said statement is not open to interpretation no?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

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over a year ago

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???"

Do a random check of newspaper headlines or online news headlines. Those that make a statement about a group of people or objects don’t tend to use a quantity word within the statement. Here’s a headline that I randomly took off Google today ‘Premier Inn undercover investigation shows cleaners using the same guest towel to clean toilets, baths and sinks’. This statement does not say whether it is all cleaners or some cleaners.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???"

Were you not hugged as a child?

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Latest typical message received from a single guy this morning. Hi tranny girl I want you to fuck my hole, badly spelt.

I rest my case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always have and always will say it, although all of us are on here because we are horny, filthy fuckers doesn't mean we can't respect one another.

A female friend of mine showed me some of the messages she receives, ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! I honestly struggle to understand how some men think it's okay to speak to other men/women with no respect and expect to meet up. Respect doesn't cost a thing.

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

Were you not hugged as a child?"

May I ask what this has to do with anything? Genuine question.I can bet that there were plenty of people shown affection and plenty of people not shown affection that ended up with the same outlooks on life so what is the point you are trying to make?

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By *xyzptlk088Man
over a year ago

Galway

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

This "headline" you mention is referencing to a specific case,the headline in the topic of this forum post is not.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

This "headline" you mention is referencing to a specific case,the headline in the topic of this forum post is not."

None of the headlines I sampled used a quantity word, whether the subject matter specific like my example or general like the OP. The OP’s heading statement was presented in a similar way to a news headline, but then she goes on to say in her explanatory post that she is talking about a ‘few’. Are you staying she needs to use the word ‘few’ both in her post headline and the subsequent text in order for people to understand that she is referring to a few men as opposed to all men? Besides if someone forgets to insert a quantity word in the sentence, why would it be assumed that the missing word is ‘all’?

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over a year ago

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

This "headline" you mention is referencing to a specific case,the headline in the topic of this forum post is not.

Whoops, the word she used was ‘some’ not ‘few’ in her post. At no point did she say ‘all’, which is the main thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs

Just some with a chip or bee in their bonnet.

just be clear only SOME.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Mrs

Just some with a chip or bee in their bonnet.

just be clear only SOME.

Thanks. That's ended that argument.

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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

Mrs

How do you come to the conclusion that it's "not usual" to add the word "some" when referencing SOME people???

Were you not hugged as a child?"

Lmao

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just chipping in my 2 pence worth....it’s not only some men who view women on here as free prostitutes judging by comment made by a couple on another thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single men are the most important people on fab ..everyone should learn to live with that fact and stop complaining ....as there are way more single men than women and couples .im guessing that fab makes way more money off them ..hence why unlimited men are allowed to join at anytime at the end of the day fab is business its not here to clarify the definition of swinging

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over a year ago

"Single men are the most important people on fab ..everyone should learn to live with that fact and stop complaining ....as there are way more single men than women and couples .im guessing that fab makes way more money off them ..hence why unlimited men are allowed to join at anytime at the end of the day fab is business its not here to clarify the definition of swinging "

Did you read the OP?

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By *itch and TwatCouple
over a year ago

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You know, we’ve done quite well without single men...it may be important to Fab and maybe to clubs but not to everyone...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On that basis everybody should stop moaning. If women should stop moaning about being treated like free protitutes, then men should stop moaning about not getting replies or not getting meets. But it everybody stops moaning half the forum threads would disappear, and that’s no fun. No idea if single men are important to Fab in terms of business. That depends I suppose on what proportion pay to be site supporters. For us yes single male swingers are the most important demographic to us, but single men who are not swingers are the least important demographic to us. But level of importance will be different to each individual depending on what they are looking for. To the single men, probably single women are the most important demographic, and there are relatively very few of them.

Mrs

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over a year ago

"I don’t see it as a replacement for prostitutes.

For one, prostitutes are polite, not to mention attractive.

Some of the ladies on here look like extras from Labrynth but think they’re supermodel material"

At least he picked an excellent film.

I think I'd make quite a good ludo personally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Could message number 175 end the post with:

What a load of Bull.

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