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"It's up to everybody to sleep with or not sleep with whoever they choose. It's really that simple. Not that it will stop this thread degenerating into the usual holier than thou rant." I don't want this to break out into a rant either but I've sometimes wondered the same thing. | |||
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"I think your misunderstanding me, everyone has a right to choose to sleep with who ever they want. What Im saying is what is the difference. Why will they sleep with a married woman but not a married man???" I understand you perfectly. Who says they will? Based on what, a random selection of profiles stumbled across on here? How many of those people stick to what it says on their profile and how many don't? Nobody has any idea, therefore any debate is entirely subjective, based on pure conjecture rather than having any basis in fact. | |||
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"We treat both sexes equally. If they are attached, playing behind their partners back and we are aware then we wouldn't play with them." +1 | |||
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"Tiggy here I was just having a nose around and looking on different peoples profiles when It suddenly came apparent that a lot of the profiles state no married men even if wife knows ect ect. However there is an awful lot of people who will play with a fem, either with or without a fuck buddy who are married. Why is that acceptable? IS it Ok for us as women to sleep with a married women because there is less jealously? Or when we sleep with a single married man then we feel more for the woman because of the betrayal and we wouldn't like our husbands/partners to do that too us? So why is it Ok for a married women to play away with or without her husbands knowledge, But not ok for a married man? Answers on a postcard please " As far as we are concerned the only thing that matters is honesty, we dont play with ppl here without their partners consent, male or female. i think some lower their standards cos women are in higher demand than men. | |||
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"lets be honest the last things some guys will be concerned about is if a woman is married or not ! as long as they get a meet and get their leg over thats the priority lol ! they are unconcerned with the the bigger picture and purely focused on the immediate gratification .if a womans got his cock in her mouth is he really going be concerned if womens going behind a partner or hubbys back ..hell of course not !!! the only concern the guy has is hes getting what he wants at that time . most women seem to think more emotionally and about the fall out that playing with a cheating hubby could have and just dont enter in to that situation. now as with anything you cant state all men and women will act the same . there will be some guys that will turn down meeting a cheating wife and some women wholl happily sleep with a cheating guy . no one has ever said that its acceptable for anyone to cheat on their partner or spouse .just with some guys thinking with dick rather than their brain they arent going to come on forums outraged theyve been propositioned by a cheating spouse they are only worried about a leg over from where ever it comes from ." I think you are absolutely spot on. My wife and I play separately and often with the other person doing it behind their partners back. We don't see it as our problem but theirs if they want to be dishonest.I think you are right about us blokes too, in the main we are just wanting to get into that pussy lol | |||
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"....... We don't see it as our problem but theirs if they want to be dishonest.I think you are right about us blokes too, in the main we are just wanting to get into that pussy lol" As an attached woman playing without her partners knowledge, I have to agree with this. It's my problem, though I appreciate that it may put some off. That's their perogative completely. I'm upfront and totally honest about my situation and it's up to my 'playmate' to choose. But without wanting to sound arrogant - somebody else mentioned this - single women on here have a lot of choice, and I'm not exactly going short of great meets because of having a man at home. Morally I guess what I'm doing is abhorrent, but that's my choice and I have my reasons. | |||
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"I think your misunderstanding me, everyone has a right to choose to sleep with who ever they want. What Im saying is what is the difference. Why will they sleep with a married woman but not a married man??? I understand you perfectly. Who says they will Based on what, a random selection of profiles stumbled across on here? How many of those people stick to what it says on their profile and how many don't? Nobody has any idea, therefore any debate is entirely subjective, based on pure conjecture rather than having any basis in fact. " I think that what the OP is asking and from her experience of what she's witnessed here is that it seems it's more acceptable to play with a married lady than man when they are both playing away. Nothing to due with your choice of who you have the right to play with. And yes probably because over history men have dine the playing away and possibly because people have sympathy for the abused spouse that they are more forgiving re when it's the lady doing it, or possibly because there are fewer single fems available we'll see this as am acceptable opportunity. It always makes me chuckle when men are ridiculed for this action as let's not forget that generally it's a women they're meeting and don't tell me that in the back of a womens mind just behind the shoe, hand bag and shopping section that there isn't a sneaky feeling the guy is playing away! lol We all can only go on what we see and here and base our thoughts and Q's on this as the OP has done. Some admit to playing away some don't and dont we just love to judge!??? | |||
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"i realy dont think it can be generalised so simpley i realy cant see where the idea of the ballance is commin from has there been a poll or some1 counting profile preferances" Is a person not aloud to ask a question based on personal observation? That's all the OP is doing and I must admit that my years of personal experience shows me this to be true and that is all I can go on. As a generalisation men will more than likely take any opportunity that comes their way and women don't like the idea of up setting the 'sister hood' and as we know can never do any thing wrong! | |||
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"It is NOT okay for a man to cheat on his wife. It is NOT okay for a woman to cheat on her husband. It IS okay for people to have sex with married people. They have no moral obligation to the cheaters partner. They DO have a moral obligation to themselves and if they can live with having no moral standards when it comes to assisting liars and cheats to succeed in deception then that is no one's business but their own. Or maybe 'societies' if it EVER existed. I fucking HATE with a vegence the 'each to their own' brigade or the 'it's your choice' army. Spineless and self recommending each n every one of them. Lying is most times wrong. What it says on profiles here is no barometer of how right or wrong something is. There may be a simple explanation for the appearance on womens profiles of 'no married men' ..... My simple theory goes ......There are hundreds of married men on here playing away ( if not thousands ) Some women consider it wrong and tire of the endless 'giz a fuck behind me wifes back' messages and feel that a clear message will save time for ALL parties. Not many men get messages from women FULL STOP. There is no pressure to put up a message asking people who don't message anyway to stop messaging. Sugarpie I appreciate your honesty and the fact that you take responsibility for what you do without bleating like a wounded victim. John - Your opinions aren't without droplets of truth. The thinly disguised mysoginy that fuels your post content comes in gigantic dollops. " ha ha! Titter ye not! lol Did you reed my ' generalisation' comment? I think not... Did you reed the one above about the strip club? I think not.... No body who swings can claim any morale high ground over anyone else.And that's my personal opinion. "lying is most times wrong" how the feck do you work that out? I know because it suites you just like those who cheat does them. I don't hate people but I do have an opinion on those with double standards who think it's ok to lie when it's to their advantage... Again read the post re the male strip club and the pervert comments and then bring your mysonigy comment in. That comment just reinforces the OPs comments about ok for women and not men and you have fallen in to the trap that women can and men can't! lol What survey have you seen or undertaken to know how many messages men get from women off here? Let's see it. Just your opinion me thinks! And what were the droplets of truth? I don't know if it's true it's just my opinion from what I've seen here....and experienced from my ex cheating wife. And yes I know of people who've also cheated within my vanilla life and no I wouldn't vilify or take sides...haven't got the time or inclination it's their life and their decisions... You don't like that either do you....Well I suppose that's your choice. | |||
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"Lying is most times wrong not all times. Thanks for your affirming response. " lol lol lol so you'd lie in court would you? Or are you just selective about your deceptions/cheating and so on..., | |||
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" Not that it will stop this thread degenerating into the usual holier than thou rant." 'Prescient' | |||
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"I think its acceptable for anyone to be on here. Maybe women do appear to have a easier time and are not bombarded with abuse from the Mother Theresa brigade than the single guys are. Maybe that is because men are more accepting of the fact that women have made those personal choices and are on this site and therefore don't feel the need to question their lifestyle choices. AMaybe women and couples are less accepting because they think more deeply about it. I can totally understand those that say they won't play with marrieds as they are constantly checking their phones and jump to attention if they get a text or let people down if they are not allowed out cos of a family crisis. I can understand that if people have to be careful about being marked then that disrupts their play. Sometimes it is more inconvenient to play with marrieds so I accept if that is the reason. But what I really dislike are those members who spout how disgusting it is, how others lack morals, how its such a mortal sin, oh the poor hubbys or wives sitting at home wringing their hands wondering where there partner is - but yet there are always 'exceptions'. If people go to a club its ok to play with marrieds there, they never ask, what they don't know won't hurt them, like the different venue makes it more acceptable. Or the single guys who are really marrieds are lowlife, lower than rats UNLESS they are as fit as fuck, its ok to flirt or meet with a married man if he is drop dead gorgeous and has a fabulous sense of humour. Always exceptions - maybe change that word to excuses I don't care what people do. I don't ask personal questions about their circumstances, if I wanted to play with them I would. I can live with my morals or lack of them far easier than trying to make myself look good on a forum but secretly doing the opposite. I do believe that many wouldn't pass up the chance of a night with a gorgeous sexy person than turn them down because of their morals, they just don't admit to that on here All are welcome here and I'm glad they are " +1! they are supposed to be welcome! | |||
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"I think its acceptable for anyone to be on here. Maybe women do appear to have a easier time and are not bombarded with abuse from the Mother Theresa brigade than the single guys are. Maybe that is because men are more accepting of the fact that women have made those personal choices and are on this site and therefore don't feel the need to question their lifestyle choices. Maybe women and couples are less accepting because they think more deeply about it. I can totally understand those that say they won't play with marrieds as they are constantly checking their phones and jump to attention if they get a text or let people down if they are not allowed out cos of a family crisis. I can understand that if people have to be careful about being marked then that disrupts their play. Sometimes it is more inconvenient to play with marrieds so I accept if that is the reason. But what I really dislike are those members who spout how disgusting it is, how others lack morals, how its such a mortal sin, oh the poor hubbys or wives sitting at home wringing their hands wondering where there partner is - but yet there are always 'exceptions'. If people go to a club its ok to play with marrieds there, they never ask, what they don't know won't hurt them, like the different venue makes it more acceptable. Or the single guys who are really marrieds are lowlife, lower than rats UNLESS they are as fit as fuck, its ok to flirt or meet with a married man if he is drop dead gorgeous and has a fabulous sense of humour. Always exceptions - maybe change that word to excuses I don't care what people do. I don't ask personal questions about their circumstances, if I wanted to play with them I would. I can live with my morals or lack of them far easier than trying to make myself look good on a forum but secretly doing the opposite. I do believe that many wouldn't pass up the chance of a night with a gorgeous sexy person than turn them down because of their morals, they just don't admit to that on here All are welcome here and I'm glad they are " couldnt have put this better | |||
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"I meet married guys pretty regularly. Some tell me they're married some don't but almost certainly are. Why do they/I do it? Well as far as I can tell most guys cheat this way from boredom and frustration. So does a 2 hour sex act/session with me help or hinder? Probably neither but it is very flattering to know that a married guy 20 or 30 years younger than me wants sex with me when has MIGHT have someone that much younger then me at home - and there's the rub isn't it - he probably doesn't and so it's the marriage that's the issue not his or my behaviour! ...And that is certainly not my business!!!!" very well put and i/we tottally agree | |||
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" ..... But what I really dislike are those members who spout how disgusting it is, how others lack morals, how its such a mortal sin, oh the poor hubbys or wives sitting at home wringing their hands wondering where there partner is - but yet there are always 'exceptions'. If people go to a club its ok to play with marrieds there, they never ask, what they don't know won't hurt them, like the different venue makes it more acceptable. " I pretty much agree with most of this bit. A scumbag is a scumbag regarless of the venue. But I think (just my opinion) most adults understand the words 'knowingly' and 'intentionally'. You may see those words as 'excuses' but they are important words to some people. I do think 'cheats' are pretty low, somewhere down on the bottom of the scale, but there are people I would put below them... those would be the people offerering sex on a plate, near on begging to fuck someone who is married but who doesn't want to have sex with others. Who really knows who lives up to their values or not... without being privy to other people's mailbox. | |||
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"Lying is most times wrong not all times. Thanks for your affirming response. lol lol lol so you'd lie in court would you? Or are you just selective about your deceptions/cheating and so on..., " Do you work for the Daily Mail? | |||
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"yip i agree total double standards have met a "single " guy on here then when the mrs rang my numnber to see who i was ,,not a nice feeling. so no married men or woman for us well unless they are both married to each other ,,then its,,game on!!! lol auds xx" Agree Auds.. I don't care who does who or what their beliefs in monogomy are... or aren't. What I can't stand is the fact that they LIE without compunction to a partner. More over they say ....Hey im a nice genuine guy. | |||
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"cause guys don't give a hoot who they have sex with and have no empathy or emotion Woman Care Man Do not. " Sweeping statement anyone? | |||
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"yip i agree total double standards have met a "single " guy on here then when the mrs rang my numnber to see who i was ,,not a nice feeling. so no married men or woman for us well unless they are both married to each other ,,then its,,game on!!! lol auds xx Agree Auds.. I don't care who does who or what their beliefs in monogomy are... or aren't. What I can't stand is the fact that they LIE without compunction to a partner. More over they say ....Hey im a nice genuine guy. " But you don't mind lying according to your earlier comments? | |||
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"cause guys don't give a hoot who they have sex with and have no empathy or emotion Woman Care Man Do not. Sweeping statement anyone?" Very sweeping statement! | |||
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"cause guys don't give a hoot who they have sex with and have no empathy or emotion, they'd rather sleep with a woman once than not at all. Women on the other hand have emotions and respect another women's emotional concerns about a partner screwing around on the sly. It's not the sex that destroys relationships, it's the deceit and dishonesty. Formula is simple Woman Care Man Do not. " maybe some... the ones with self respect won't. | |||
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"lets be honest the last things some guys will be concerned about is if a woman is married or not ! as long as they get a meet and get their leg over thats the priority lol ! they are unconcerned with the the bigger picture and purely focused on the immediate gratification .if a womans got his cock in her mouth is he really going be concerned if womens going behind a partner or hubbys back ..hell of course not !!! the only concern the guy has is hes getting what he wants at that time . most women seem to think more emotionally and about the fall out that playing with a cheating hubby could have and just dont enter in to that situation. now as with anything you cant state all men and women will act the same . there will be some guys that will turn down meeting a cheating wife and some women wholl happily sleep with a cheating guy . no one has ever said that its acceptable for anyone to cheat on their partner or spouse .just with some guys thinking with dick rather than their brain they arent going to come on forums outraged theyve been propositioned by a cheating spouse they are only worried about a leg over from where ever it comes from ." great answer and pretty much along the way we think. thanks | |||
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"I think its acceptable for anyone to be on here. Maybe women do appear to have a easier time and are not bombarded with abuse from the Mother Theresa brigade than the single guys are. Maybe that is because men are more accepting of the fact that women have made those personal choices and are on this site and therefore don't feel the need to question their lifestyle choices. Maybe women and couples are less accepting because they think more deeply about it. I can totally understand those that say they won't play with marrieds as they are constantly checking their phones and jump to attention if they get a text or let people down if they are not allowed out cos of a family crisis. I can understand that if people have to be careful about being marked then that disrupts their play. Sometimes it is more inconvenient to play with marrieds so I accept if that is the reason. But what I really dislike are those members who spout how disgusting it is, how others lack morals, how its such a mortal sin, oh the poor hubbys or wives sitting at home wringing their hands wondering where there partner is - but yet there are always 'exceptions'. If people go to a club its ok to play with marrieds there, they never ask, what they don't know won't hurt them, like the different venue makes it more acceptable. Or the single guys who are really marrieds are lowlife, lower than rats UNLESS they are as fit as fuck, its ok to flirt or meet with a married man if he is drop dead gorgeous and has a fabulous sense of humour. Always exceptions - maybe change that word to excuses I don't care what people do. I don't ask personal questions about their circumstances, if I wanted to play with them I would. I can live with my morals or lack of them far easier than trying to make myself look good on a forum but secretly doing the opposite. I do believe that many wouldn't pass up the chance of a night with a gorgeous sexy person than turn them down because of their morals, they just don't admit to that on here All are welcome here and I'm glad they are " another great answer thanks...nail hit right on the head | |||
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"yip i agree total double standards have met a "single " guy on here then when the mrs rang my numnber to see who i was ,,not a nice feeling. so no married men or woman for us well unless they are both married to each other ,,then its,,game on!!! lol auds xx Agree Auds.. I don't care who does who or what their beliefs in monogomy are... or aren't. What I can't stand is the fact that they LIE without compunction to a partner. More over they say ....Hey im a nice genuine guy. But you don't mind lying according to your earlier comments?" Im convinced you work for the Daily Mail. Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. | |||
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"Us women can get away with absolute murder when it comes to this kind of thing! Hubby went to a strip show recently and the amount of grief some of our female friends gave him when they found out. As far as they were concerned it was sleazy and filthy and full of perverts. The funny thing was, only a month before I had gone to a male strip show with most of them! And I know full well that we all grabbed a handful where we could, we all touched his willy, we all squeezed his bum and Im pretty sure one of our group sucked his willy under the towel! When I mentioned this to hubby he said that if anyone in a male crowd tried to grab the woman or lick her pussy, they would get thrown out on the spot! He was so jealous about what we could get away with in the name of "Its just a bit of fun" whereas he was labelled a pervert for even just looking!! Ha ha, poor boys! x" This is absolutely true, and is based upon the myth that women aren't as interested in sex as men are (complete bollocks) so can only ever go just "for a laugh". Women tend to get the wrong end of the deal when it comes to money however. A woman who marries a bloke purely for money is labelled a gold-digger and a scrubber, whereby a bloke who marries a woman for it gets off rebuke-free. Also in the vanilla world a woman who sleeps with a lot of men is labelled a slag as all she has to do is say "fuck me", whereas a bloke is a stud. Most things in life favour one sex or the other. It just so happens that with any sex site including swinging ones women are in demand. The roles are reversed with marriage sites as more women find monogamy not only appealing but a turn on than men do, so their number far outweighs that of the males....therefore I imagine the men on those sites can probably get away with murder? | |||
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"Tiggy here I was just having a nose around and looking on different peoples profiles when It suddenly came apparent that a lot of the profiles state no married men even if wife knows ect ect. However there is an awful lot of people who will play with a fem, either with or without a fuck buddy who are married. Why is that acceptable? IS it Ok for us as women to sleep with a married women because there is less jealously? Or when we sleep with a single married man then we feel more for the woman because of the betrayal and we wouldn't like our husbands/partners to do that too us? So why is it Ok for a married women to play away with or without her husbands knowledge, But not ok for a married man? Answers on a postcard please " I think the answer to thats obvious Single men on here are 10 a penny so you can put conditions on their status and still have more mailing you than you can handly However as we know that does not go for single woman, so many people complain they cant find single woman so they hardly going to put conditions on their private life before they meet them Basically lots will turn a blind eye to things they dont agree with to meet a woman | |||
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"...and who said it was alright? I don't play with married men, not for any moral reason but there are single men here, wall to wall, free to play when I want, not afraid of being marked or petrified of my wearing perfume around them. Everyone has their moral compass set differently, but attached people not for me." i couldnt agree more Why would i meet a married guy who is limited to meeting when i can meet a single guys whos not clock watching and paranoid he still has evidance of me on him when he leaves | |||
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"yip i agree total double standards have met a "single " guy on here then when the mrs rang my numnber to see who i was ,,not a nice feeling. so no married men or woman for us well unless they are both married to each other ,,then its,,game on!!! lol auds xx Agree Auds.. I don't care who does who or what their beliefs in monogomy are... or aren't. What I can't stand is the fact that they LIE without compunction to a partner. More over they say ....Hey im a nice genuine guy. But you don't mind lying according to your earlier comments? Im convinced you work for the Daily Mail. Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. " Here you go: Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. " "Lying is most times wrong" There you go, you said it; so that means you think it's ok some times.. | |||
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"Here you go: Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. " "Lying is most times wrong" There you go, you said it; so that means you think it's ok some times.." I know I am not Granny, but 'lying most times is wrong' is not teh same as saying she doesn't mind lying. Lying IS most times wrong, but sometimes little white lies are considered acceptable (no your bum does not look big, no I was only doing 70 officer etc) to keep the peace. I dunno why you are accusing Granny of something that she hasn't ever said on this post. | |||
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"Here you go: Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. " "Lying is most times wrong" There you go, you said it; so that means you think it's ok some times..Show me where it says ' I don't mind lying' ...... find it for me. That should keep you too busy to mis quote again for a while. " "Lying is most times wrong" There you go, you said it; so that means you think it's ok some times.. I know I am not Granny, but 'lying most times is wrong' is not teh same as saying she doesn't mind lying. Lying IS most times wrong, but sometimes little white lies are considered acceptable (no your bum does not look big, no I was only doing 70 officer etc) to keep the peace. I dunno why you are accusing Granny of something that she hasn't ever said on this post." Want it both ways Cheating is wrong but lying is ok sometimes! Perhaps that's what those who are cheating think that it's better to tell a little white lie than the truth to their partner because they don't won't to hurt them.., What's a little white lie to some is the altimate betrayal to others; and a little white lie leads to a slightly bigger one and so on. The OP asked why is it ok for women to cheat and not for men as she sees it on here from the evidence she's seen. Nothing to do with why people cheat! I think we all know the reasons..... Because they can.... And one of My responses was to one here about women and men going to strip shows and how the wives called husbands perverts after they had been (the wives) fondling a male stripper and the thread was from a lady... | |||
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"Us women can get away with absolute murder when it comes to this kind of thing! Hubby went to a strip show recently and the amount of grief some of our female friends gave him when they found out. As far as they were concerned it was sleazy and filthy and full of perverts. The funny thing was, only a month before I had gone to a male strip show with most of them! And I know full well that we all grabbed a handful where we could, we all touched his willy, we all squeezed his bum and Im pretty sure one of our group sucked his willy under the towel! When I mentioned this to hubby he said that if anyone in a male crowd tried to grab the woman or lick her pussy, they would get thrown out on the spot! He was so jealous about what we could get away with in the name of "Its just a bit of fun" whereas he was labelled a pervert for even just looking!! Ha ha, poor boys! x" Ain't that the truth! x | |||
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"Aww john you called me a lady lol thats the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me hehehe " well you're aren't you? lol | |||
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"cause guys don't give a hoot who they have sex with and have no empathy or emotion Woman Care Man Do not. Sweeping statement anyone? Very sweeping statement! " I prefer the term "total bollocks" | |||
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