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"I love the genuine single males but do they exist?! " They do, and I'm not claiming to be one of them, it's not for me to judge, but there are plenty of guys on here who go quietly about their Fab business, have realistic expectations, are respectful and considerate and are what I would call genuine. Unfortunately like most things in this world it's the bad examples that tend to stand out and are remembered. | |||
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"Some people get fed up of the few who behave less than respectfully. Lots of people are here to meet single guys so they actually welcome them!" This ![]() | |||
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"I got dared from a friend on here to create a female profile for a day so in her words "see what us ladies have to go through". Wow it was eye opening. I didn't write any text or include a picture. The second i created it i got messages. The number went over 200+ with every kind of filthy message and suggestion and offer. So many pictures and one line messages. Not including the winks and friend requests. There were some normal messages in there too from what looked like good profiles so not all bad. But the good ones were massively outnumbered by the masses of chancers. To have to put up with that quantity coming in (i know you can have filters to reduce it) but wow I'd have my guard up on most people i spoke to. So i can see why the good single guys may get a bit of a tough time trying to glow amongst the bad ones but perseverence, speaking in forums, going to clubs and generally being polite goes a long way." I hope you politely replied to all 200+ messages ![]() | |||
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"I got dared from a friend on here to create a female profile for a day so in her words "see what us ladies have to go through". Wow it was eye opening. I didn't write any text or include a picture. The second i created it i got messages. The number went over 200+ with every kind of filthy message and suggestion and offer. So many pictures and one line messages. Not including the winks and friend requests. There were some normal messages in there too from what looked like good profiles so not all bad. But the good ones were massively outnumbered by the masses of chancers. To have to put up with that quantity coming in (i know you can have filters to reduce it) but wow I'd have my guard up on most people i spoke to. So i can see why the good single guys may get a bit of a tough time trying to glow amongst the bad ones but perseverence, speaking in forums, going to clubs and generally being polite goes a long way. I hope you politely replied to all 200+ messages ![]() Oh yeah of course i did. I then told them I'm a straight male and their original offer for me still stood. God bless fab ![]() | |||
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"I would like fabbers from the Irish side to get give their own opinion on this. Because it’s mainly the Irish single lads I have seen with rants like this on their status!!!" It's not limited to Ireland believe me - there are guys with unrealistic expectations from all areas who then get ranty about it - they're two a penny on the forums, never have to wait long for the next one to show up ![]() | |||
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"If you use the Reply+Quote button OP we'll know who you're replying to ![]() Oh sorry first time on forum lol | |||
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"It's a free site that as women up for casual sex on it and they don't want payment. That leads to lots of guys signing up thinking they all it takes is sending a cock pic to a woman to get a fuck. Those are the single guys that annoy people. " Not bragging here but I have gotten first nails from women and couples with pussy and boobs pics on them!! I just look ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It's a free site that as women up for casual sex on it and they don't want payment. That leads to lots of guys signing up thinking they all it takes is sending a cock pic to a woman to get a fuck. Those are the single guys that annoy people. Not bragging here but I have gotten first nails from women and couples with pussy and boobs pics on them!! I just look ![]() ![]() Mails*** | |||
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"Hate is a bit strong but i find alot of men are quite rude as in bad manners . Gone are the days of men acting like gents and gaining respect .I think some men need to act different then they wouldn't moan about no meets or being single . ![]() But do you not have to give someone a chance to prove themselves before stacking them up the naughty list. Not all guys are rude.. ![]() | |||
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"There isn't any hate, its just a case of supply exceeding demand." The above statement & i think alot of guys dont really help themselves.. here or in clubs, i.e; thinking its going to be an all out fuck fest, which then unable to handle the reality & give singles a bad name... (my thought). On a diff note; op you got one big cock fella.. ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Nice men shine through the twatty men so if your nice don't worry ![]() Hahahahaha I like that ![]() | |||
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"Hate is a bit strong but i find alot of men are quite rude as in bad manners . Gone are the days of men acting like gents and gaining respect .I think some men need to act different then they wouldn't moan about no meets or being single . ![]() A lot of people also forget that the forum is only a teeny bit of fab. The folk that post their grievances (whichever gender) may not be a fair representation of what goes on away from here | |||
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"Hate is a bit strong but i find alot of men are quite rude as in bad manners . Gone are the days of men acting like gents and gaining respect .I think some men need to act different then they wouldn't moan about no meets or being single . ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I have noticed this a lot in this site and I just want to ask why so I can get it from a different view. I am doing well on the site and have no complaints but I hear different from other single guys and just want to get a better understanding of why. Thanks and please don’t hate or bash I am only just curious haha ![]() ![]() If you are some of the messages that come through its no wonder. I am a couple we state clearly we do not meet alone. Our preference is interracial. It's clear. So messages are would you like to meet. Addressing me the lady. I'd love you to suck my cock and sit on my face. Really??? Would you meet me tonight. I ask who are you asking. The lady. Why. We are a couple. So my answer is guys get more respectful and find out who you are talking to and ffs read the profile would save all the hassle. No hate here just respect and they will get it back | |||
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"I wish the Irish fabbers would get involved in this because it like the Uk have a different view to this hahaha" Perhaps post in the Irish forum if you are mainly looking for replies from that side of the water | |||
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"Im here to neet single guys as it says on my profile but im nit going to shag every single guy that messages me. For me there has to be an attraction to get naked with someone. I insist on a coffee meet first in a public place the amount of single guys who think a woman will meet them in a car park at night and shag us actually scary. One guy told me he wouldnt meet me in public cause he is well known in the area and people would talk but he expected me to invite a complete stranger into my home. Maybe some women do But first off my safety is the most important thing and if a guy cant sit and have a coffee and chat with me he aint getting into my knickers lol" .yeah that amazes me too Won't agree to a cuppa in public and think you should be on a dating site if you suggest it,but happy to invite themselves over to mine! | |||
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"Heres one opinion.. not a fact though that i could prove. This is my personal opinion.. Alot of couples dislike them probably because its the male half that wants to do the swinging and not the female. So he talks the female into swinging and then convinces her she's bisexual when she really isnt.. the male wants a female and figures if his mrs is bi then they have more chance of getting one. i bet if it was the female running the profile the single males would do better and they wouldnt get so much hate... " Well stated ![]() | |||
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"Im here to neet single guys as it says on my profile but im nit going to shag every single guy that messages me. For me there has to be an attraction to get naked with someone. I insist on a coffee meet first in a public place the amount of single guys who think a woman will meet them in a car park at night and shag us actually scary. One guy told me he wouldnt meet me in public cause he is well known in the area and people would talk but he expected me to invite a complete stranger into my home. Maybe some women do But first off my safety is the most important thing and if a guy cant sit and have a coffee and chat with me he aint getting into my knickers lol" I do see your point Mz that’s not nice | |||
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"Hate is a bit strong but i find alot of men are quite rude as in bad manners . Gone are the days of men acting like gents and gaining respect .I think some men need to act different then they wouldn't moan about no meets or being single . ![]() Opinions....not for us all, sorry. | |||
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"Im here to neet single guys as it says on my profile but im nit going to shag every single guy that messages me. For me there has to be an attraction to get naked with someone. I insist on a coffee meet first in a public place the amount of single guys who think a woman will meet them in a car park at night and shag us actually scary. One guy told me he wouldnt meet me in public cause he is well known in the area and people would talk but he expected me to invite a complete stranger into my home. Maybe some women do But first off my safety is the most important thing and if a guy cant sit and have a coffee and chat with me he aint getting into my knickers lol" Totally agree - it’s too scary to invite a stranger into your home and it makes people who do that vulnerable. It’s probably rare that anything bad happens but once someone knows where you live there’s no undoing it. I’m sure there are people on here with stories of what happens when things turn pear-shaped. I can understand why some prefer hotel meets. | |||
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"Im here to neet single guys as it says on my profile but im nit going to shag every single guy that messages me. For me there has to be an attraction to get naked with someone. I insist on a coffee meet first in a public place the amount of single guys who think a woman will meet them in a car park at night and shag us actually scary. One guy told me he wouldnt meet me in public cause he is well known in the area and people would talk but he expected me to invite a complete stranger into my home. Maybe some women do But first off my safety is the most important thing and if a guy cant sit and have a coffee and chat with me he aint getting into my knickers lol Totally agree - it’s too scary to invite a stranger into your home and it makes people who do that vulnerable. It’s probably rare that anything bad happens but once someone knows where you live there’s no undoing it. I’m sure there are people on here with stories of what happens when things turn pear-shaped. I can understand why some prefer hotel meets." ![]() | |||
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"Im here to neet single guys as it says on my profile but im nit going to shag every single guy that messages me. For me there has to be an attraction to get naked with someone. I insist on a coffee meet first in a public place the amount of single guys who think a woman will meet them in a car park at night and shag us actually scary. One guy told me he wouldnt meet me in public cause he is well known in the area and people would talk but he expected me to invite a complete stranger into my home. Maybe some women do But first off my safety is the most important thing and if a guy cant sit and have a coffee and chat with me he aint getting into my knickers lol Totally agree - it’s too scary to invite a stranger into your home and it makes people who do that vulnerable. It’s probably rare that anything bad happens but once someone knows where you live there’s no undoing it. I’m sure there are people on here with stories of what happens when things turn pear-shaped. I can understand why some prefer hotel meets. ![]() Very wise IMO | |||
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"From our experience as a couple on a couple’s profile we (I) don't hate 'single males' but when we had our profile open to anyone, we used to get hundreds of messages from single males, mainly pestering me (female) to message them, and the language was usually filthy and insulting. When we have accepted single guys onto our friends list, and all but one of them has tried to get it on with me behind my husband’s back, some got very angry and abusive when I said no. We now don’t trust single guys and have our settings set to couples only – it’s sad but that’s how it is I’m afraid. There’s just no way you can filter out the genuine good guys from the liars, cheats, bigots and creeps on here. Unfortunately, the old saying 'a few bad apples ruin the barrel’ has proved true for us. So please, blame it on the minority of bad single guys who ruin it for the majority of the good ones. " That’s so true.. I totally agree with you! | |||
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"I love single guys ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Me too..and married ones ![]() | |||
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"I’ve been to Infusion in Blackpool and always had fun as a single guy. Yes, supply does best demand, but on my visits I’ve never left disappointed. Once I met a single lady and other times I’ve played either in a group or with a couple. Heading there again this Sunday if anyone is interested. " Great to hear positive reports about a club from a single guy ![]() | |||
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"I love single guys ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And trust me we love you all too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I love single guys ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Bravo ladies hahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"We would say alot of single guys are chancers.or dont turn up string along and then 5 mins before meet cancel. Im in the area fancy a meet and yes im bi but just dont put it up. Or playing without wife knowing but the majority seem to not have the ability to read a profile and see what the couple is looking for . no point in getting the hump. No point in saying im in the area and no point trying a bi couple if your not bi . better off introducing yourself sending a face pic rather than a cock pic as in fairness if wife dont fancy you shes not going to fuck you no matter how big of thick or how long you last.just try to be sensible and think there are so many single men so couples need to feel why you rather than others" Very well said I like that.. and that’s the simple way I introduce myself to be it couples or single ladies.. great point you raised! | |||
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"Here’s my experience (missus) from a few minutes ago. Single guys says I want to meet you (our profile asks for people to make the effort to introduce themselves with a paragraph or 2 and says we won’t respond to one liners) but I broke the rule and said we only play with bi oral guys and your profile says you’re straight. He responds that’s fine I’m bi. I delete message. He sends another one liner I delete message he sends another one and I get sucked in again to tell him he obviously hasn’t read our profile. He replies and assumes he’s talking to hubby and describes crudely what he wants to do in a one liner - as I don’t actually have those body parts I am amused and tell him he’s talking to the missy’s so no that dies interest me and advise him that next time he wants to introduce himself to someone perhaps he should read their profile and send an interesting message to differentiate himself rather than a coarse one. I’m apparently a dick and am blocked - saved me blocking him I guess ![]() Omg I am gob smacked at that. That’s rude of him. Nice to get a lot of different experience so we can make this better and more enjoyable for all | |||
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"i think its a numbers thing, guys have to be realistic and know there's lots of guys on here also, the other problem is the few guys that arrange meets then disappear in to thin air!! Doesn't help us genuine guys" this is probably why us tgirls are so busy ![]() | |||
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"Well the original intent of this site is for “swingers” as the name suggests. So it makes sense that most couples are looking for other couples to try things with." A fantastic observation from an astute single guy......Swinging by design is a couples lifestyle and single guys and ladies are invited. If a single guy or lady is on here to find another single then it's fair to say they are not swinging. Guys that get it and are respectful will enjoy the spoils of what swinging can offer. | |||
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"Well the original intent of this site is for “swingers” as the name suggests. So it makes sense that most couples are looking for other couples to try things with. A fantastic observation from an astute single guy......Swinging by design is a couples lifestyle and single guys and ladies are invited. If a single guy or lady is on here to find another single then it's fair to say they are not swinging. Guys that get it and are respectful will enjoy the spoils of what swinging can offer. " Well said ![]() | |||
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"There is the level of maturity in their messages/profiles. 1. Someone here said about not showing their dicks when you meet somebody in real life, that is so true. 2. The tone of messages, so many are stuck in the Fab=sex=my porn fantasy mode and totally forget they are talking to real people. 3. Trust. So you want to have sex and aren't getting it elsewhere, so what do you do, keep pestering for repeats, even to the point of trying to message the woman, behind the husbands back if you're hooked up to a couple. We know people that has happened to. 4. As others have said, reliability on bring messed about. We have on our profile no single men, but in a club, for the right man, we'd go for it as they get an opportunity to cut out the bull and be themselves " | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() That's exactly how it is you be nice you don't get anywhere or you be upfront and its message deleted there's no hope for most single guys on here lol | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() I don't think it's that difficult to figure out, read someone's profile first before messaging them, I've see plenty of single women's profiles that ask for a guys filthy fantasies, and likewise those asking for well written and polite messages. As many have said, the problem is with the entitled guys thinking that they are somehow owed sex because they've made the effort to join the site. I've had a single profile a couple of times and a number of couple profiles with different women, so I understand the different dynamics. I have always managed the couples accounts and find the attitude of some men quite poor indeed, I've been threatened with violence a number of times, with both Jane and myself abused because she didn't want to sleep with someone who thought they had a right to sex, male expectation and entitlement is played out on here day after day and it's not nice. Do we hate single men? No, we dislike entitled pricks though! | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I have noticed this a lot in this site and I just want to ask why so I can get it from a different view. I am doing well on the site and have no complaints but I hear different from other single guys and just want to get a better understanding of why. Thanks and please don’t hate or bash I am only just curious haha ![]() ![]() Not read the whole thread so someone may have already given a similar answer. There is no hatred from us towars single guys, we actively seek them. However there are so many fucking idiots who come on here it is very difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff. The here today gone tomorrows who think it is instashag, the married guys who expect us to be on 24 hour call for a quick fuck when they can sneak away from the Mrs, and worst of all the ones who message us with "fancy a meet" when they are nearly a thousand miles away. All because they are too lazy to read (or choose to ignore) a profile are just a few examples. We have met many decent guys from here and from the other sites we use and hope we will continue to do so. However the morons in the examples above (and others) will be ignored, blocked, or get a sarcastic reply depending on our mood. To the other guys who message us asking for information and help about the area's we live and visit, or the ones who have read and understood our profile. We will always reply and help in whatever way we can. | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() That is absolutely correct. As long as there are about 10 times more men than women looking for nsa sex there will be no hope for most of those men. But it’s been like that since the dawn of time - more men than women wanting casual sex. Mrs | |||
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"I think intolerance of stupidity and desperation that is displayed By A portion of single males is closer to the mark. Those who treat the site as Instashag (copyright/TM/patent pending). There ar those who cannot grasp that the little pictures of magnificent boobs relate to a real person and should be treated as such, not a walking talking fleshlight. When asked to offer advice on why men don't get meets I generally offer up that they should have some solo time before they message anyone. Sort out that immediate need so it isn't conflicting with the brain when messaging. For the majority of us not genetically perfect individuals we need to engage the largest sex organ of our desired ones.. the brain ![]() Great post, last paragraph should be number 1 on the Fab Guide for single men. ![]() | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() My favourite analogy relating to single guy profiles in here is; you're like an individual sperm, swimming amongst 60 million other sperm in a sample of ejaculate, looking for that one egg..... ![]() | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() ![]() Arh it’s not as random as that. If there was a random 1/60 million chance of a guy getting a meet on Fab then, like the National Lottery he would just need to buy his ticket and hope for the best. Where as the reality is that the same sperm get the egg each time, unfairly leaving all the other sperm with nothing ![]() | |||
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"Really an interesting topic I raised here... I get that most guys come of as desperate and pushy. But my question is how would a guy know when and what to do.. in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. This leaves a lot of lads confused. Well I am not! I have my own easy approach which works for me well. But I can see and understand where most guys default.. All I like to ask is that single guys be giving a little bit of patience and not quick to be written off. Cos even though we are too many on here but also I will like to think that we are very vital to the swing scene!! Thanks everyone for your comment please keep it coming Darkseduction xxx ![]() ![]() ![]() So there's a new term for the Fab Dictionary Repopulate (verb) - populate or fill again. The single man was able to revisit his proven technique much to the approval of those requiring his talents. | |||
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"in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list." Okay, so I haven’t been here that long, in the grand scheme of things, but I have never, ever had a woman tell me that I wasn’t nasty or filthy enough when messaging. And I avoid putting anything of a graphic nature in any of my opening messages. I’ve never encountered a woman who wanted to engage in that kind of chat until a few messages had gone back and fore. I’m amazed that anyone would want that in the very first message they receive from anyone. | |||
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"in some cases most women say the lads are not nasty and filthy enough when messaging and then again when the lad tries to take the initiative his is branded a pushy fella and added to the block list. Okay, so I haven’t been here that long, in the grand scheme of things, but I have never, ever had a woman tell me that I wasn’t nasty or filthy enough when messaging. And I avoid putting anything of a graphic nature in any of myopening messages. I’ve never encountered a woman who wanted to engage in that kind of chat until a few messages had gone back and fore. I’m amazed that anyone would want that in the very first message they receive from anyone." ![]() | |||
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"Most female's despise single guys. But ok with couples. fail to realise their hubby was once a single dude.lot of MISANDRIST here on fab.hiding under the pretence of choice or preference. " I suppose some do, but to say "most" is over doing it a bit (a lot). There is no "pretence" of preference, you either prefer it or you don't. We know what we want, where we want it, when we want it, and most importantly what we don't want. If a guy fits then fine, if he doesn't then we are not interested. Why are women and couples on here picky? Think of it this way. If there are 5 cherries in a bowl and 4 are looking a bit rotten but one is shiny and fresh. Which one would you pick? We will NEVER change our preferences just to suit some self entitled single on here (or anywhere else) Contrary to popular belief the women and couples on here have a life away from FAB and swinging. As I and others have previously said. It isn't Instashag. | |||
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"Most female's despise single guys. But ok with couples. fail to realise their hubby was once a single dude.lot of MISANDRIST here on fab.hiding under the pretence of choice or preference. " What a load of bollocks, most females on here are looking for single guys, we don’t despise them at all! If you’re not having any luck then that’s more likely down to you than the supposedly misandrist attitude of the ladies on here ![]() | |||
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"Most female's despise single guys. But ok with couples. fail to realise their hubby was once a single dude.lot of MISANDRIST here on fab.hiding under the pretence of choice or preference. What a load of bollocks, most females on here are looking for single guys, we don’t despise them at all! If you’re not having any luck then that’s more likely down to you than the supposedly misandrist attitude of the ladies on here ![]() | |||
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"Most female's despise single guys. But ok with couples. fail to realise their hubby was once a single dude.lot of MISANDRIST here on fab.hiding under the pretence of choice or preference. " I, David, manage our couples account and have been on the receiving end of hate, abuse, threats of violence, utter filth and cock pics that aren't asked for, not one of those from a couple or a single woman. If it was a one off then I could ignore it, but it's not, it's regular, and I think I'm pretty easy going. You're a single guy, your experience is of just that, I've been on here as a single guy and as a couple, the experience is world's apart, it might do you well to listen as to why some people take issue with many single men. That said, we've met our fair share of decent respectful guys, enough to make us want to stick around. | |||
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"...time and time again and its almost always single guys they fail to grasp the dynamics of it, the ones that dont get it tend to think they due something and send ridiculous messages. Then they wonder why they getting no action and blame everyone and everything but themselves." The flip side to that coin is that I see just as high a proportion of couples profiles, and single females profiles, that make no effort whatsoever, and get pissy that nobody is doing exactly what they want. But breaking it down to the simple numbers, even the really shit single female and couples profiles, the ones who send crappy messages and don’t really grasp the fundamentals of human interaction, even they will get meets. That’s just simple maths. So, there are people out there putting more effort in than others, with a better understanding of the dynamics, still failing by accident of gender, or being single. . And yet, time and time again, people come to the forum to rag on the players, rather than the game. . Yes, there are loads of guys with a shit attitude and shit approach. Nobody is denying that. But let’s not pretend they’re worse. There’s just more of them. It’s shit for everyone concerned, in some way or another. | |||
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"...time and time again and its almost always single guys they fail to grasp the dynamics of it, the ones that dont get it tend to think they due something and send ridiculous messages. Then they wonder why they getting no action and blame everyone and everything but themselves. The flip side to that coin is that I see just as high a proportion of couples profiles, and single females profiles, that make no effort whatsoever, and get pissy that nobody is doing exactly what they want. But breaking it down to the simple numbers, even the really shit single female and couples profiles, the ones who send crappy messages and don’t really grasp the fundamentals of human interaction, even they will get meets. That’s just simple maths. So, there are people out there putting more effort in than others, with a better understanding of the dynamics, still failing by accident of gender, or being single. . And yet, time and time again, people come to the forum to rag on the players, rather than the game. . Yes, there are loads of guys with a shit attitude and shit approach. Nobody is denying that. But let’s not pretend they’re worse. There’s just more of them. It’s shit for everyone concerned, in some way or another." Life’s not fair but you’re dealing with market forces here. To put it crudely vagina is the commodity that is most in demand, women have that commodity and therefore don’t need to make as much effort. A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her?" I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad. | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad." Louder for the people in the back ![]() | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad." That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to. Assuming your approach is the same as everyone else's and those who deviate from it are 'sad' is a bit, well, sad. | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad." I think couples and single women do have to make the same amount of effort that a single guy needs to make, if they want to experience a quality time and get treated with respect. Yes a woman can get a shag whenever she likes, a luxury single men don’t get. But will that shag be with a decent respectful guy? The quality guys have choices and preferences just as women do. I know that if we don’t make and effort I won’t get the guys I want, and I probably won’t get the repeat meets, and i’ll probably get messed about by timewasters. Mrs | |||
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"That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to." So, what was it about these amazing profiles that made you contact them in the first place? | |||
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"...time and time again and its almost always single guys they fail to grasp the dynamics of it, the ones that dont get it tend to think they due something and send ridiculous messages. Then they wonder why they getting no action and blame everyone and everything but themselves. The flip side to that coin is that I see just as high a proportion of couples profiles, and single females profiles, that make no effort whatsoever, and get pissy that nobody is doing exactly what they want. But breaking it down to the simple numbers, even the really shit single female and couples profiles, the ones who send crappy messages and don’t really grasp the fundamentals of human interaction, even they will get meets. That’s just simple maths. So, there are people out there putting more effort in than others, with a better understanding of the dynamics, still failing by accident of gender, or being single. . And yet, time and time again, people come to the forum to rag on the players, rather than the game. . Yes, there are loads of guys with a shit attitude and shit approach. Nobody is denying that. But let’s not pretend they’re worse. There’s just more of them. It’s shit for everyone concerned, in some way or another." Yes there are more and yes they much worse. We get messages from males, females and couples, the difference is huge in how they are constructed. With some guys your lucky if you get more than want to fuck? And with most its obvious they havent even bothered to read the profile. Never have we had this issue with women or couples who are in general more respectful. When we do get a a decent well written message from a a single guy we do try to reply even if it is to politly decline. Its the way it is. No getting around it. G | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad." You’re projecting your views onto other people, if a woman is using this site purely for sex and can get it with the minimum effort then why should they make more of an effort because some people think it’s sad? If a woman is after more than just sex then there MAY be a reasonable expectation that she puts more into her profile but that would be up to her. The world isn’t fair, life isn’t fair and this website isn’t fair but one thing is for sure, whining about it isn’t going to get you laid. | |||
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"That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to. So, what was it about these amazing profiles that made you contact them in the first place?" Could have been pics, could have been a short funny comment. Please tell me, am I doing fabs wrong? Am I sad? | |||
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"That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to. So, what was it about these amazing profiles that made you contact them in the first place? Could have been pics, could have been a short funny comment. Please tell me, am I doing fabs wrong? Am I sad?" Then they obviously don’t have an empty profile if you were attracted to they pictures or acfunny comment. It’s the no effort profiles that’s being criticised not profiles with appealing pictures and humerous comments. Mrs | |||
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"...A woman can get sex without putting a single word in her profile so why would she make an effort if that is working for her? I’m not saying she should, it’s up to her. But, it seems unfair to berate single men, when they’re just learning from the dull profiles they see when they go searching. . Also, if I was a woman (or a couple) I’d like to think I’d have a little self-respect. I wouldn’t want to meet people who just saw me as an available receptacle. If your profile has nothing interesting, just some pictures of your body, you’re telling the world that’s all you are. It’s pretty sad." Fair point. | |||
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"That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to. So, what was it about these amazing profiles that made you contact them in the first place? Could have been pics, could have been a short funny comment. Please tell me, am I doing fabs wrong? Am I sad? Then they obviously don’t have an empty profile if you were attracted to they pictures or acfunny comment. It’s the no effort profiles that’s being criticised not profiles with appealing pictures and humerous comments. Mrs" I was responding to someone specifically saying that a woman who only has pictures on her profile is 'sad' | |||
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"I would like fabbers from the Irish side to get give their own opinion on this. Because it’s mainly the Irish single lads I have seen with rants like this on their status!!!" First off we want to acknowledge that we know not all single guys are bad apples but this is our experience.... We have single guys blocked because initially we were inundated with the usual messages from guys who didn't read the profile. So we now use our filters to the max and only contact guys that we feel we might have something in common with. Having said that the first 4 we contacted were married, our issue with that is we have limited time to play and didn't want to be booking hotels to find that the guy can't get away because he can't find a good enough excuse to give to the wife. The 5th guy we contacted completely ignored Mr and only wanted to engage Mrs and then got abusive when the issue was raised. Luckily the 6th was a gem ![]() ![]() | |||
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"That's rather judge-y. I've chatted with and met women with very short, basic profiles and there was nothing sad about them, they just ran their accounts on here the way they wanted to. So, what was it about these amazing profiles that made you contact them in the first place? Could have been pics, could have been a short funny comment. Please tell me, am I doing fabs wrong? Am I sad? Then they obviously don’t have an empty profile if you were attracted to they pictures or acfunny comment. It’s the no effort profiles that’s being criticised not profiles with appealing pictures and humerous comments. Mrs I was responding to someone specifically saying that a woman who only has pictures on her profile is 'sad'" My apologies | |||
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"You’re projecting your views onto other people, if a woman is using this site purely for sex and can get it with the minimum effort then why should they make more of an effort because some people think it’s sad?" They shouldn’t make more of an effort just because some people think it’s sad. If people want to throw self-respect out the window just to get laid, that’s entirely up to them. There are lots of things in life that we could just as easily do with minimal effort, and we would get by. But we put effort in because we have self-respect. I’m very happy for you that your approach works for you. . "The world isn’t fair, life isn’t fair and this website isn’t fair but one thing is for sure, whining about it isn’t going to get you laid." Nice attempt at a dig, but I’m finding that it’s my profile and messages that are getting me laid. I’m not whining. Pointing and laughing, maybe. | |||
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"You’re projecting your views onto other people, if a woman is using this site purely for sex and can get it with the minimum effort then why should they make more of an effort because some people think it’s sad?They shouldn’t make more of an effort just because some people think it’s sad. If people want to throw self-respect out the window just to get laid, that’s entirely up to them. There are lots of things in life that we could just as easily do with minimal effort, and we would get by. But we put effort in because we have self-respect. I’m very happy for you that your approach works for you. . The world isn’t fair, life isn’t fair and this website isn’t fair but one thing is for sure, whining about it isn’t going to get you laid.Nice attempt at a dig, but I’m finding that it’s my profile and messages that are getting me laid. I’m not whining. Pointing and laughing, maybe." You don’t get that you are projecting though do you? What you think is largely immaterial to anyone but you. You think people should make more of an effort, great but what has that to do with anyone else? They are getting laid on a swinging site, they want sex they are getting sex, why do you have issue with it? You are getting laid, they are getting laid everyone should be happy but for some reason you sound as though you really, really, aren’t. | |||
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"Pointing and laughing, maybe." I'm sure women on here will be thrilled that if their profile doesn't meet your standards, you'll point and laugh at them. | |||
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"You are getting laid, they are getting laid everyone should be happy but for some reason you sound as though you really, really, aren’t." Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, then. Allow me to single this out and see if you can get it on its own: "I’m very happy for you that your approach works for you." . A bit clearer for you? Good. I’m well aware that my opinion means very little to other people. Reading your profile, I understand why you’re defensive about all this. But it sworks for you and that’s lovely. . Now, since nobody’s opinions mean anything to anyone else, shall we just close the forum? It seems an awful waste of everyone’s time. | |||
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"Pointing and laughing, maybe. I'm sure women on here will be thrilled that if their profile doesn't meet your standards, you'll point and laugh at them." Nice try. The pointing and laughing is at some of the nonsense spouted in here (hello). I tend to disregard the empty profiles. I’m not desperate. | |||
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"You are getting laid, they are getting laid everyone should be happy but for some reason you sound as though you really, really, aren’t.Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, then. Allow me to single this out and see if you can get it on its own: I’m very happy for you that your approach works for you. . A bit clearer for you? Good. I’m well aware that my opinion means very little to other people. Reading your profile, I understand why you’re defensive about all this. But it sworks for you and that’s lovely. . Now, since nobody’s opinions mean anything to anyone else, shall we just close the forum? It seems an awful waste of everyone’s time." Have you considered decaf? | |||
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"Pointing and laughing, maybe. I'm sure women on here will be thrilled that if their profile doesn't meet your standards, you'll point and laugh at them. Nice try. The pointing and laughing is at some of the nonsense spouted in here (hello). I tend to disregard the empty profiles. I’m not desperate." It's nonsense to point out your judgemental attitude? Ok buddy, keep telling yourself it's other people who are the problem ![]() | |||
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"Have you considered decaf?" I’ll give it a go if you try arsenic. xxx | |||
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"Have you considered decaf? I’ll give it a go if you try arsenic. xxx" I’m not sure you’re aware of how angry you come across as, take a chill pill my dude. | |||
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"I've had nearly 500 messages today and 99% of those are off single men. They've flooded this site and nearly all of them think there different but they same the same things and they think it's insta shag here. I do think there should be a limit on single guys as there's 567743478743368 of them to every female or couple. I don't think there's hate for them here but the majority of them do act like desperate idiots and that paints a bad picture for the rest of them. " from the couple of single ladies I chat to on a regular basis, I have to agree with the comments above. I am not a desperate single male, intey to be polite, respectful, I read a profile, I think I fit with I will say hello, it's very rare I will just come out and say do you want to play tonight unless they have a meet me or meet post on their profile. Any response I get irrespective of the content it treated with respect and I don't question why if it's a negative. Maybe I am one of the few who do this, but single guys have to respect preference without reserve. If we all did that, maybe we wouldn't have such a bad rep. | |||
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"I have noticed this a lot in this site and I just want to ask why so I can get it from a different view. I am doing well on the site and have no complaints but I hear different from other single guys and just want to get a better understanding of why. Thanks and please don’t hate or bash I am only just curious haha ![]() ![]() make a female profile, like six foot six redhead and smoker into rough stuff, sit back relax and watch | |||
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"It's nonsense to point out your judgemental attitude? Ok buddy, keep telling yourself it's other people who are the problem ![]() Sigh. Everybody is judgemental. It’s part of the human condition. You don’t like my opinions, and you're allowing that to cloud your understanding of what I’m saying, so you’ve misfired on most points I’ve made so far. That’s fine. It’s not a big deal. | |||
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"I’m not sure you’re aware of how angry you come across as, take a chill pill my dude." I’m well aware that people see me as grumpy, and that I’m pretty blunt. If you read blunt as angry, that’s a pity. | |||
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"I’m not sure you’re aware of how angry you come across as, take a chill pill my dude. I’m well aware that people see me as grumpy, and that I’m pretty blunt. If you read blunt as angry, that’s a pity." It’s not good for your health, seriously, smile, you’ll feel better for it. | |||
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"It’s not good for your health, seriously, smile, you’ll feel better for it." I see you’re still not getting it. The way you’re reading what I write has nothing to do with how happy I am in the first place. I’m perfectly happy, thank you. | |||
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"I have noticed this a lot in this site and I just want to ask why so I can get it from a different view. I am doing well on the site and have no complaints but I hear different from other single guys and just want to get a better understanding of why. Thanks and please don’t hate or bash I am only just curious haha ![]() ![]() Nothing to do with hate more about respectful messages. Some we get sre aimed at me the female when it clearly states i dnt meet alone. And some are pretty vulgar. So i say you want respect. Give it | |||
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"Well if you’re sure but I still think you should try decaf. It might help you at least sound less angry." I don’t drink that much coffee. I haven’t had any caffeine since Friday. I have noted your disapproval of my writing style and filed it accordingly. Are we done? | |||
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"I love the genuine single males but do they exist?! " Very rarely and the trouble is for those who are genuine it’s a minefield.... | |||
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