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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was bloody great xx

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was very much like my first bwc (big White cock)............ But black.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"It was very much like my first bwc (big White cock)............ But black. "

Oh you beat me to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

Nice of you to share your excitement but not everyone will share your enthusiasm on your subject matter and you may get some negative responses. Good luck though and have fun.

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By *orders-cplCouple
over a year ago

middx cpl

it was fantastic just loved the colour mix very diffrent but no better than white...saying that was back to him 4 times so far ...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from"

Fabio you always seems to comment of these posts. We know you dont like people sterotyping or asking why no one will fuck asian, black etc etc, but rather than steering clear of these posts you always feel you need to post you comments. why not let everyone live their life and if you dont like the post just dont enter and comment.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Fabio you always seems to comment of these posts. We know you dont like people sterotyping or asking why no one will fuck asian, black etc etc, but rather than steering clear of these posts you always feel you need to post you comments. why not let everyone live their life and if you dont like the post just dont enter and comment."

because it is a forum and people are allowed to have a view... just as you are allowed yours.

if every position was "happy clappy" then people would only ever see half a viewpoint.....

heck, tell you what, lets take it a step further...let just tell people what they want to hear and what they want to see... that way they can just live in the rosey bubble without realising that they may be turning off as many people as they are trying to attract....

happy shiney people holding hands hey....

people want to play up stereotypes... cool, be my guest... but I am guessing that you would rather be known as being "that nice guy" than opposed to "that asian guy"....

if you want to be known as the latter then you play it up for all it is worth... however if there are negative consequences to doing that then I don't want to see one thread of "people don't seem to want to meet because......"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

agreeing with the above poster am afraid...no interest in a subject thats been said again and again...I'd leave it.

On the subject of the actual post of course...I'm just gonna see the positive responses and wink at the profiles i like...maybe...cos am shy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met a black man from this site he was vey exciting, so lively and energetic. Could do with some more like that right now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from"
you and me both this is getting Stupid know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fabio you always seems to comment of these posts. We know you dont like people sterotyping or asking why no one will fuck asian, black etc etc, but rather than steering clear of these posts you always feel you need to post you comments. why not let everyone live their life and if you dont like the post just dont enter and comment.

because it is a forum and people are allowed to have a view... just as you are allowed yours.

if every position was "happy clappy" then people would only ever see half a viewpoint.....

heck, tell you what, lets take it a step further...let just tell people what they want to hear and what they want to see... that way they can just live in the rosey bubble without realising that they may be turning off as many people as they are trying to attract....

happy shiney people holding hands hey....

people want to play up stereotypes... cool, be my guest... but I am guessing that you would rather be known as being "that nice guy" than opposed to "that asian guy"....

if you want to be known as the latter then you play it up for all it is worth... however if there are negative consequences to doing that then I don't want to see one thread of "people don't seem to want to meet because......"

"

its not about being "that asian guy" or "that nice guy". to be honest i dont care, in fact i think you care more than i do!

yes everyone can express their views but on many of these posts you are always there almost trolling. If i see a post i dont like the look of i wont post on it. If you find these posts offensive then report them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can write about my first long skinny black cock to relieve the tension if anyones interested.

All the cocks I have met belonged to some very nice chaps attached to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't often get involved but if you don't like a subject matter then why not leave it for those who do. For people to preach that it has been done before isn't helpful and to be honest comes across as rude. There are many new people so why not let them express them self and move on if you don't like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can write about my first long skinny black cock to relieve the tension if anyones interested.

All the cocks I have met belonged to some very nice chaps attached to them."

for the love of god please dotn write about the cocks being skinny, that will really open up a can of worms lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't often get involved but if you don't like a subject matter then why not leave it for those who do. For people to preach that it has been done before isn't helpful and to be honest comes across as rude. There are many new people so why not let them express them self and move on if you don't like. "

exactly, the OP is asking for experiences as his wife is due to have a big one. People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider, or use mroe lube or whatever. but there are people who like to suck the life out of the party and while he may have a valid reason to do so a little tact might be appreciated. Manners and consideration go a long way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can write about my first long skinny black cock to relieve the tension if anyones interested.

All the cocks I have met belonged to some very nice chaps attached to them.

for the love of god please dotn write about the cocks being skinny, that will really open up a can of worms lol "

Yes, well it was worm-like but very rigid.

My favourite was a very fat one about 6 inches long. It went like a train. It was a pinky brown colour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can write about my first long skinny black cock to relieve the tension if anyones interested.

All the cocks I have met belonged to some very nice chaps attached to them.

for the love of god please dotn write about the cocks being skinny, that will really open up a can of worms lol

Yes, well it was worm-like but very rigid.

My favourite was a very fat one about 6 inches long. It went like a train. It was a pinky brown colour."

lol tope the trains were better than the london ones, those things are slow and you wait ages for one of them and the service is por too lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know one lady on here who thoroughly enjoys her exclusive black men only clubs and writes very highly of them on the forums.

If theres a demand for something some enterprising person will meet that demand. Hence all sorts of clubs available to suit everyones needs/perceptions/fantasies.

Stereotyping is alive and kicking in all aspects of life as are urban myths. I cannot see that ever changing.

Laws are there to protect the vulnerable or downtrodden because of stereotype or prejudice.

This is a sex website where all sorts of sexual desires, fantasies, stereotyping and escapism goes on. Lets not criticise anyone for their preferences and fantasies as that could be viewed as party pooping.

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"....People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider,...."

LMFAO!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Hi OP... If the guy is large, he should know what to do with it! After all, he didn't just wake up one morning and "there it was"!! (more's the pity, be hope for me then.. )

We met a guy on holiday in Cap d'Agde who was not huge, but larger than Mrs R had taken before. He was very good with it and as long as he is not in a rush to catch a bus home, you should have a lot of fun.

Just a thought though, when you chat to the guy, make sure he knows the lady is nervous and worried about how he is going to get all "that in there". Slow and easy from him and she can regulate the speed of entry as she feels more comfortable.

Good luck with that and now.... Anyone want a skinny white cock???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider,....

LMFAO!"

thank you, im here all week

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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exactly, the OP is asking for experiences as his wife is due to have a big one. People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider, or use mroe lube or whatever. but there are people who like to suck the life out of the party and while he may have a valid reason to do so a little tact might be appreciated. Manners and consideration go a long way."

oh dear lord, for the love of god...

if you genuinely believe that they wanted tips on how to deal with a big one.. then I have a nigerian prince with money needing put into your account that you may want to have a word with...

as others have then said.. if you genuinely believe that was the question then the answer would be the same if it was a "big cock", a "big black cock" and a "big white cock"

signed ...

the life of the party (not)

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester


"....People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider,....

LMFAO!

thank you, im here all week"

That doesn't surprise me

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By *stwoCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

i remeber bbc coming into our house with my parents 1st telly in 1954.it was great.Andy Pandy bill and ben muffin the mule

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Ok people, let's get back to the OP rather than turn this into something else between a couple of people.

There isn't a rule to say you can't start your own thread on the subject if you want to discuss it.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"

exactly, the OP is asking for experiences as his wife is due to have a big one. People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider, or use mroe lube or whatever. but there are people who like to suck the life out of the party and while he may have a valid reason to do so a little tact might be appreciated. Manners and consideration go a long way.

oh dear lord, for the love of god...

if you genuinely believe that they wanted tips on how to deal with a big one.. then I have a nigerian prince with money needing put into your account that you may want to have a word with...

as others have then said.. if you genuinely believe that was the question then the answer would be the same if it was a "big cock", a "big black cock" and a "big white cock"

signed ...

the life of the party (not)"

But if the guy is black, he has a black cock! Why hide the fact!

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By *ornwall-maleMan
over a year ago

newquay

just enjoy the forums peeps. your always going to get plus and negative or people bitching. thats the forum world. as for op take from the replys you want and leave what ya dont. its all interesting fun either way at the end of the day. its good so many people have opinions really. anyone want a PAC (pretty average cock) lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well im looking forward to getting some dick after a small drought and i dont care what bloody colour it is as long as its healthy and attached to a nice guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

exactly, the OP is asking for experiences as his wife is due to have a big one. People on here may be able to offer tips like spread legs wider, or use mroe lube or whatever. but there are people who like to suck the life out of the party and while he may have a valid reason to do so a little tact might be appreciated. Manners and consideration go a long way.

oh dear lord, for the love of god...

if you genuinely believe that they wanted tips on how to deal with a big one.. then I have a nigerian prince with money needing put into your account that you may want to have a word with...

as others have then said.. if you genuinely believe that was the question then the answer would be the same if it was a "big cock", a "big black cock" and a "big white cock"

signed ...

the life of the party (not)"

LOl farther _abio, i actually do believe them, i liek to give people the benefit of the doubt and why not. I dont like to live being sceptical about people, give a little and recieve a lot.

Oh i cant put any more money in my account. i actually have another guy who has my bank details and will be transfereing monies very soon, there has been some delays but these things happen. Anyway the IR will become suspicious if i have £100,000,000 in my account. but feel free to give them your account details

signed your new best friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i remeber bbc coming into our house with my parents 1st telly in 1954.it was great.Andy Pandy bill and ben muffin the mule"

wasnt born then but i have a very similar monent when i watched bbc HD... similar but not exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i remeber bbc coming into our house with my parents 1st telly in 1954.it was great.Andy Pandy bill and ben muffin the mule

wasnt born then but i have a very similar monent when i watched bbc HD... similar but not exactly "

Muffin in HD? Its bad enough watching the sweaty open pores in Corrie!!!

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

the cock was ok but he needed a shower

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find black guys attractive. I regularly attend Blackmans Fan Club parties. I go to play with black guys.

Am I stereotyping them - yes

Am I forcing them to attend against their will - no

Are their stereotyping me because they go to play with white ladies who predomontly attend these parties - yes

Am I bothered - no

There are a lot of stereotypes that we all may play up to - BBW party nights etc.

A lot of women like the thought of having sex with a black guy. Yes in all reality the sex is no different. I love these parties cos the guys are smart, gorgeous and sexy as hell and they seem to be interested in blonde curvy ladies like me.

I do indeed remember the first black guy I played with there. A gorgeous 30yr old New Yorker who called me Ma'am, muscled and with a rather gorgeous sized appendage. He enjoyed pale skinned, bigger, curvy, blonde, white women, heck who was I to deny him that pleasure. The sex was no different from gorgeous white guys I've played with. The contrast of his dark toned body against my pale flabby looked rather exciting tho

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"the cock was ok but he needed a shower"

He'd have been shown the door and told to walk through it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!

I can't stand it when i receive messages saying"do you do black guys?"

or are you interested in black guys?

I'm interested in nice ,attractive,articulate guys--colour and race is insignificant!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i remeber bbc coming into our house with my parents 1st telly in 1954.it was great.Andy Pandy bill and ben muffin the mule

wasnt born then but i have a very similar monent when i watched bbc HD... similar but not exactly

Muffin in HD? Its bad enough watching the sweaty open pores in Corrie!!!"

Who is ben muffin.... and andy pandy??? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!

I can't stand it when i receive messages saying"do you do black guys?"

or are you interested in black guys?

I'm interested in nice ,attractive,articulate guys--colour and race is insignificant!"

Nd thts gr8.. any chnce of a m33t iz a blck gy

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i can understand why fabs gets annoyed.The origins of the black guy fucking my wife meme lie in Americas miscegenation laws.It was a taboo that broke boundaries of acceptable behaviour and the law.

Ask any dogger why that is exciting !

Howver it means its origins are racist...now the quetion is if you consider it transgressive today are u racist...i am ignoring those who prefer black men for aesthetic reasons(i.e the skin contrast) but focusing on the ,"its the naughtiest thing i can think of " group.

As far as i can see it is not racism, just a limited imagination. i have a friend who is a sex worker, she was telling me of her favourite current client, he masturbates while she tells him of being gang banged by black men. He considers this the wildest sexual activity imaginable!

We all have taboos, i prefer to explore mine, and they are in no way related to skin colour. It would be a better world if no one had stereotypical outdated ideas, no racist assumptions,no slut shaming, queer bashing. However this is not going to happen overnight.i do think this particular fantasy will die out tho, as the othering of different races becomes less easy as the country becomes more mixed and multicultural

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!

I can't stand it when i receive messages saying"do you do black guys?"

or are you interested in black guys?

I'm interested in nice ,attractive,articulate guys--colour and race is insignificant!"

At some point he is going to have to tell you he is black! Why not do it at the outset? Not everyone wants to meet people outside their colour, so the more info the better.

Methinks people are way to sensitive!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!

I can't stand it when i receive messages saying"do you do black guys?"

or are you interested in black guys?

I'm interested in nice ,attractive,articulate guys--colour and race is insignificant!"

Swinging is a different market tho at times. People will advertise what they feel is their unique selling point and that might have been his.

Its no different advertising that a person is a BBW, or messaging and saying are you interested in large breasted women cos I'm one of those, or do you like redheads cos I'm one of those, do you like squirters,or heavy cummers, cos I'm one of those.

Swinging is an arena to explore the fantasy. we all play up and emphasise our attributes as a selling point

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire


"I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!"

Why? BBC is a preference, while I admit a bbc can be good or bad experience just like a Big White Cock it is still a preference and has such it can make the experience more enjoyable!

C prefers big breasts, so sex with a small breasted woman may not turn him on so much and therefore not so enjoyable!

BBC, BBW,SM etc are all just preferences that people enjoy. If some had asked the question can you remember your first BBW would the answer be just has good as the small ugly woman!

H's is first bbc was just as good as the last one and hopefiully the next one!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from"

Seconded...don't know why I even opened this. I agree Fab, I find it sad too this racial stereotyping!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i am a BI male and have seen more cocks than most women and the biggest i have ever seen was white thick and very tasty ( ahh memories ) and 14' and oh my god

most black cocks are like white cocks and it is who they are attached to and how they use them that matters

now lets clear this subject up once and for all the only difference between a white male and a black male is the level of melanomine in their skin and the rest is myth and i would never judge some1 by the colour of their skin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said Jay.

The biggest cocks i have had the pleasure of worshipping have been white!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm with ya Fabio my friend..its just a big cock! "BBC" thing does my head in!!

I can't stand it when i receive messages saying"do you do black guys?"

or are you interested in black guys?

I'm interested in nice ,attractive,articulate guys--colour and race is insignificant!"

I get this too - from black guys advertising their attributes and making stereotypical statements. If they, as black men, are happy to use the stereotyping to their advantage its foolish me or anyone else getting indignant on their behalf.

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By *andcCouple
over a year ago

London and Cheshire


"i am a BI male and have seen more cocks than most women and the biggest i have ever seen was white thick and very tasty ( ahh memories ) and 14' and oh my god

most black cocks are like white cocks and it is who they are attached to and how they use them that matters

now lets clear this subject up once and for all the only difference between a white male and a black male is the level of melanomine in their skin and the rest is myth and i would never judge some1 by the colour of their skin "

All this may be true, but, it's what turns people on that count i.e a preference.

While the porn industry may play to stereo types, they make film that turn people on and therefore sell and there are plenty of interracial film out there!

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

To turn it round the other way, we get mails from men asking do we want BBC, so it obviously suits some people to use their BBC.

I also want to say that not all black men have huge cocks.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

I have had a huge white cock, but I am sure it wouldn't matter what colour it was as long as it is used well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"To turn it round the other way, we get mails from men asking do we want BBC, so it obviously suits some people to use their BBC.

I also want to say that not all black men have huge cocks."

this is not a slight at your post at all rugby

the point is that I don't condone either side using it... its a vicious cicle where people use it because they see other use it.. and then people pick up on it because they think it improves their chances.. and the complain when it doesnt

I said further up to that if people want to use it as a selling point then they also can't then complain if it is used against them...

I don't have a problem with preferences, each to there own (I see events such as coffee a creme advertised, I have been asked to go, I don't go out of my prinicple)

what I do have a problem with the stereotype's people have and the stigma's attached to them... and that what I will always fight, and voice my concerns with....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have meet a black male who cock was sml below the average 5.5 but it did not matter as he was so skillful with all his other stuff and it is easy to deep throat a smaller or average cock i dont like gagging on cock and black men tead to be more rough in my experience some anyway its all how you use what you have and how you treat who u are with not SIZE COLOUR LENGTH THICKNESS ETC thats is just me thro

question for u ladies at what point is it too big and no longer useful i mean over 10 how much goes in and if roughlyused does it not just hurt

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

There is absolutely no need to make personal remarks about people that don't share the same point of view as you

In fact it will prevent you from posting on here as its unacceptable

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Don't make personal remarks about other posters please.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Sorry HPC, must have been posting the same time xx

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago


"Sorry HPC, must have been posting the same time xx"

xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

some of this made me feel bad but I will give my view..

I think for some their is a certain taboo..and when they are asking that is what they are relating too.. the contrasting skin colours etc..

For me I have not fucked a BBC but have played with one and it was no different to playing with or sucking a BWC...

but I will be honest and was wondering if it would... but no he was just a man all the same.. no magical differences.. which the way some women go on about it you woudl think there was..

I think for many its the pschological.. maybe like me they were brought up that its a taboo that you shouldnt as a nice white girl do it... yet I realised my bigotry was all wrong..

I do think that its this that perhaps people are going on about..

although I will say that the black guys I have met for socials have made it quite clear that they are more into rougher sex than most of the white guys but I think that was just I have re put on the bdsm side on my profile and so therefore attracting people in that way.

Cali

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

what I do have a problem with the stereotype's people have and the stigma's attached to them... and that what I will always fight, and voice my concerns with...."

But sadly, that is always going to happen Fabio, not just with colour or swinging, but with life altogether.

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By *weet threesome wifeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere out there

ready all above i think respect all round and take everyones feelings into account if a post has something on it that another feels strong about surely wether he/she agrees or not does not deminise their right to reply, if it is by them offencive does a man/woman not have the right to say hay wooo i feel that is out of order or i just dont like it yes i could move on but do we not have the right to say i dont like that, most especiallt when it describes people of gender colour creed, it's a forum onpen post, not for people that agree only, yes i know i've only started posting and new to this but if someone feel stongly on the negitive or positive surley it has equal weight,

this isnt intended to ofend anyone but readin the post i just felt i need to say regards stacey &eddy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I read the original post as being very excited about their meet and wanting to share that excitement, and hope that none of the posts on this thread do not in any way diminish that. I hope they have a whale of a time!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

group of black men for a gangbang, the chances are they will be picked for being black and having big cocks, now when we assume this is some form of racism or stereotyping will the people participating actually care.On the actual meet I'm sure the men and woman(women) will be polite and respectful while getting dirty as fuck and there wont be any racism.whether or not that u want to delve deeper into the taboo subject of why exactly the black men are there thats entirely ur choice however all I tend to think of is its a shallow fuckathon everybodies happy with some differing skin tones.

start thinking more deeply about it really isnt going to solve anything and really at the end of it i dont particularly like coming into fab and moaning about racism and stereotyping when all i'm interested in is fucking....black and white and inbetweens lol

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By *iplayersCouple
over a year ago

chippenham or kent


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

ITS OK AS LONG AS THEY CAN KEEP IT HARD WHICH IS RARE.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Personally, I read the original post as being very excited about their meet and wanting to share that excitement, and hope that none of the posts on this thread do not in any way diminish that. I hope they have a whale of a time!! "

Me too And me too

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By *ensualfire88Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

The 'in betweens'

Half caste people are gorgeous, get me one of them Mulatta girls and I'll be smiling from Lands End to John O' Groats.

(as a point of order and in an attempt to stop any tide of 'racial undercurrent', let me make it quite plain that I am happy to penetrate any woman regardless of her race, ethnicity, religion, creed, colour or political convictions. Long legs, firm tits and a pussy which could strangle an adder are my personal preferences, but as I'm a member on here it should be fucking obvious to all but the criminally stupid that those are not set in stone)

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Sniggers.....Raise wants to fuck the inbetweeners!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx

ITS OK AS LONG AS THEY CAN KEEP IT HARD WHICH IS RARE."

i seem to be doing well with big cocks lately.. all have stayed nice and hard for me..

cali x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sniggers.....Raise wants to fuck the inbetweeners! "

hahahahaha get it up ye honeypot xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

don't see the big deal

a big cock is just that whether it's black, white, yellow or any other colour in between

it's more to do with the fact that having sex with a black guy is still seen by some as taboo and a little bit naughty

and whilst some black guys definately milk that, i would hope that most would like to be seen less as a cock and more as a person

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where is the 'what would you do to the poster above' thread when you need it?

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By *icboyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Where is the 'what would you do to the poster above' thread when you need it?"

Just start one...need one too...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where is the 'what would you do to the poster above' thread when you need it?

Just start one...need one too... "

okay.... watch that space..

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By *woBiTwoCouple
over a year ago

north manchester

Saw a drama once where someone said they looked forward to the day when everyone would describe "that guy over there..." as "the one with the red tie" rather than "the black guy".

You never know, it might happen. Would be grand.

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By *ensualfire88Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Saw a drama once where someone said they looked forward to the day when everyone would describe "that guy over there..." as "the one with the red tie" rather than "the black guy".

You never know, it might happen. Would be grand. "

Heard a brilliant thing along the same lines on the radio a while back.

A guy had been trying to point out which person in a room full of people was 'Peter'.

He tried everything, saying 'it's the guy wearing the blue tie, the guy in the corner, the guy drinking a beer etc, all to no avail.

Her later explained this to Peter and said that despite his best efforts he had not been able to identify Peter to the person he was talking to.

To which Peter replied 'Why didnt you just say Peter is the 6'7" black guy over there, you muppet'.

So it kinda works both ways

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh dear, having read this thread i'm worried now i might be deemed as racist!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear, having read this thread i'm worried now i might be deemed as racist! "

I'm sure the guys you meet don't think that -K-

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Oh dear, having read this thread i'm worried now i might be deemed as racist! "

better to worry you might be than insist you could never be !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh dear, having read this thread i'm worried now i might be deemed as racist! "

lol just focus on ur likes...oh...focus on me lol x

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

I didn't want to get involved with this one, but having read all the comments, I found myself first agreeing with Fabio, then with Iconic and thereafter backwards and forwards between the different views. There was something that bugged me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it hit me!

What's slightly disturbing about the OP is the tone of it. It's a fair question, for what it is, but there is an element of treating the whole notion of "black cock" as something perverse and therefore naughty and exciting. It isn't meant to be racist, at least I don't think it's intentional, but I think there is a slight tendency to treat the whole notion as something not to be done, except as an item on a tick list where one can say "yup! Tried that!"

This is different to other threads where people discuss BBWs etc. These normally fall into two clear camps … those for and those against. Very rarely do they share the same sentiment as the OP.

I'm sure, as stated earlier, that this wasn't intended, but having put this in writing has helped me to clarify my unease with it. Hopefully this has also helped others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx

I didn't want to get involved with this one, but having read all the comments, I found myself first agreeing with Fabio, then with Iconic and thereafter backwards and forwards between the different views. There was something that bugged me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it hit me!

What's slightly disturbing about the OP is the tone of it. It's a fair question, for what it is, but there is an element of treating the whole notion of "black cock" as something perverse and therefore naughty and exciting. It isn't meant to be racist, at least I don't think it's intentional, but I think there is a slight tendency to treat the whole notion as something not to be done, except as an item on a tick list where one can say "yup! Tried that!"

This is different to other threads where people discuss BBWs etc. These normally fall into two clear camps … those for and those against. Very rarely do they share the same sentiment as the OP.

I'm sure, as stated earlier, that this wasn't intended, but having put this in writing has helped me to clarify my unease with it. Hopefully this has also helped others.

"

think you hit the nail on the head there but peeps tend to be on here in pursuit of fantasies so it's bound to seem a little exploitative at times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

theres sexual stereotyping as well as racial...its part of fab/swinging in general no???

but saying something like we are seeking BBC is not racist/stereotyping its asking for what it exactly is.

start making some broad generalisations which turn BBC's into "them type of guys"- now thats a different thing.

I doubt that anyone really thinks they are being invited as black guys as anything less than being people...they just happen to be black

Im actually really sorry for the OP at such an innocent and common type of fantasy for lots of people to have their post turned into negative kneejerkedness.....AGAIN!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Was bloody great xx"

+ 1

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx

I didn't want to get involved with this one, but having read all the comments, I found myself first agreeing with Fabio, then with Iconic and thereafter backwards and forwards between the different views. There was something that bugged me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it hit me!

What's slightly disturbing about the OP is the tone of it. It's a fair question, for what it is, but there is an element of treating the whole notion of "black cock" as something perverse and therefore naughty and exciting. It isn't meant to be racist, at least I don't think it's intentional, but I think there is a slight tendency to treat the whole notion as something not to be done, except as an item on a tick list where one can say "yup! Tried that!"

This is different to other threads where people discuss BBWs etc. These normally fall into two clear camps … those for and those against. Very rarely do they share the same sentiment as the OP.

I'm sure, as stated earlier, that this wasn't intended, but having put this in writing has helped me to clarify my unease with it. Hopefully this has also helped others.

think you hit the nail on the head there but peeps tend to be on here in pursuit of fantasies so it's bound to seem a little exploitative at times."

You're absolutely right. I just think we all need to be carefully how we express our interest. Afterall there are people involved, and with that all their thoughts, feelings, and emotions.

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"theres sexual stereotyping as well as racial...its part of fab/swinging in general no???

but saying something like we are seeking BBC is not racist/stereotyping its asking for what it exactly is.

start making some broad generalisations which turn BBC's into "them type of guys"- now thats a different thing.

I doubt that anyone really thinks they are being invited as black guys as anything less than being people...they just happen to be black

Im actually really sorry for the OP at such an innocent and common type of fantasy for lots of people to have their post turned into negative kneejerkedness.....AGAIN!

"

There's nothing wrong with the request I think the worry is the way it has been phrased, albeit inadvertently.

Also what you said about being treated as people who just happen to be black is naive. Part of the reaction to this thread is due to people who have experienced the exact opposite. It is a non trivial concern! Don't try to trivialise it!

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Maybe you need to lighten up. Sorry had to say that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"theres sexual stereotyping as well as racial...its part of fab/swinging in general no???

but saying something like we are seeking BBC is not racist/stereotyping its asking for what it exactly is.

start making some broad generalisations which turn BBC's into "them type of guys"- now thats a different thing.

I doubt that anyone really thinks they are being invited as black guys as anything less than being people...they just happen to be black

Im actually really sorry for the OP at such an innocent and common type of fantasy for lots of people to have their post turned into negative kneejerkedness.....AGAIN!

There's nothing wrong with the request I think the worry is the way it has been phrased, albeit inadvertently.

Also what you said about being treated as people who just happen to be black is naive. Part of the reaction to this thread is due to people who have experienced the exact opposite. It is a non trivial concern! Don't try to trivialise it!"

sorry but have to point out ur username mate...i stopped drawing attention to my colour a while ago...altho i describe myself as a blackmix IN my profile...but honestly cant u see u are already in a type of stereotyped name????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe you need to lighten up. Sorry had to say that. "

hahahha was gonna say that ages ago....cue comments haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was very much like my first bwc (big White cock)............ But black.

Oh you beat me to it."

and me lol

feels the same your muff cant tell the difference lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I also find myself agreeing in part with Fabio and Black Bolt. But my views below are what I keep coming back to.

There is an enormous amount of sexual stereotyping. Yeah there are women who want to try a black guy out, and the OPs post might have come across in this way, though I really do think it was intended as a lighthearted post expressing excitement rather than a racist remark.

But there are guys who meet with BBWs cos they 'wanna try a fat girl out' or 'wanna try a large breasted girl out' or 'wanna try an older bird out'. Its everywhere on swinging sites and I do think its the arena to express that.

There are some of us who have a unique selling point and we over emphasise that. Raise is known for writing utter filth, he couldn't do that in real life, one day in the workplace with comments like he makes and he'd be sacked. Others emphasise their size with the initials of BBw somewhere in their username or profile. Some, like me, use pictures, some emphasise the size of their cocks and some guys use the word 'Black' in their usernames to emphasise that selling point because there's a market for it.

I go to those Blackman Fan Club parties, actually not cos I 'fancy a bit of black' but because it feeds my ego. I don't see black guys as a kind of taboo that I need to fulfil, because in effect I see the whole umbrella of swinging as a taboo. Deep down I have the thoughts that shagging random strangers of whatever colour is, not wrong cos that's too harsh a word, but its not something to be proud of either. Its a slightly shameful secret that I enjoy - therefore its all a taboo for me.

But I like the parties because I feel like a queen for the night. For some reason, which does surprise me, I am popular, in demand, by these black guys. I have offers from the majority of men in there, gorgeous, ripped, young, fit men, and they are chasing me! They wouldn't chose me in real life, I am, to them, a stereotype. Do I play up to it whilst I'm there - fuck yeah of course I do.

I don't feel I'm being racist, I don't feel they are. Its nothing more ominous than going to a party where I'm gonna be in demand every time I go. If I had the same level of adoration at a German men fan club, or a Ginger haired mans fan club, I'd go. It isn't the guys' colour but how I'm treated myself when I'm there. I don't feel I'm exploiting guys and I don't feel exploited. Maybe inadvertently we are being exploitive but we're all coming out of there with a smile on our faces so let the fun continue

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx

I didn't want to get involved with this one, but having read all the comments, I found myself first agreeing with Fabio, then with Iconic and thereafter backwards and forwards between the different views. There was something that bugged me and I couldn't put my finger on it. Then it hit me!

What's slightly disturbing about the OP is the tone of it. It's a fair question, for what it is, but there is an element of treating the whole notion of "black cock" as something perverse and therefore naughty and exciting. It isn't meant to be racist, at least I don't think it's intentional, but I think there is a slight tendency to treat the whole notion as something not to be done, except as an item on a tick list where one can say "yup! Tried that!"

This is different to other threads where people discuss BBWs etc. These normally fall into two clear camps … those for and those against. Very rarely do they share the same sentiment as the OP.

I'm sure, as stated earlier, that this wasn't intended, but having put this in writing has helped me to clarify my unease with it. Hopefully this has also helped others.

"

This was why i brought up the first recorded porn in this meme, from the 20's, and its racist roots.

The idea that black men are somehow "other" and therefore this is a taboo fantasy is disturbing...however is it racism or lack of experience.

Here i am hoist on my own, i cant define racism petard...so i need to fall back on if it makes some black men uncomfortable then......

Great post as usual

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"I also find myself agreeing in part with Fabio and Black Bolt. But my views below are what I keep coming back to.

There is an enormous amount of sexual stereotyping. Yeah there are women who want to try a black guy out, and the OPs post might have come across in this way, though I really do think it was intended as a lighthearted post expressing excitement rather than a racist remark.

But there are guys who meet with BBWs cos they 'wanna try a fat girl out' or 'wanna try a large breasted girl out' or 'wanna try an older bird out'. Its everywhere on swinging sites and I do think its the arena to express that.

There are some of us who have a unique selling point and we over emphasise that. Raise is known for writing utter filth, he couldn't do that in real life, one day in the workplace with comments like he makes and he'd be sacked. Others emphasise their size with the initials of BBw somewhere in their username or profile. Some, like me, use pictures, some emphasise the size of their cocks and some guys use the word 'Black' in their usernames to emphasise that selling point because there's a market for it.

I go to those Blackman Fan Club parties, actually not cos I 'fancy a bit of black' but because it feeds my ego. I don't see black guys as a kind of taboo that I need to fulfil, because in effect I see the whole umbrella of swinging as a taboo. Deep down I have the thoughts that shagging random strangers of whatever colour is, not wrong cos that's too harsh a word, but its not something to be proud of either. Its a slightly shameful secret that I enjoy - therefore its all a taboo for me.

But I like the parties because I feel like a queen for the night. For some reason, which does surprise me, I am popular, in demand, by these black guys. I have offers from the majority of men in there, gorgeous, ripped, young, fit men, and they are chasing me! They wouldn't chose me in real life, I am, to them, a stereotype. Do I play up to it whilst I'm there - fuck yeah of course I do.

I don't feel I'm being racist, I don't feel they are. Its nothing more ominous than going to a party where I'm gonna be in demand every time I go. If I had the same level of adoration at a German men fan club, or a Ginger haired mans fan club, I'd go. It isn't the guys' colour but how I'm treated myself when I'm there. I don't feel I'm exploiting guys and I don't feel exploited. Maybe inadvertently we are being exploitive but we're all coming out of there with a smile on our faces so let the fun continue

"

As you point out, you are not playing with black men because you think it breaks rules or is naughtier than playing with white men...this is one of those tricky subjects where intent does matter.i read a lot of porn online, there is a whole genre of nice white

women being forced to have sex with dirty nasty black men, and many who get off on the idea it is taboo.

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By *habsMan
over a year ago

Fortress of Solitude, Middlesex


"To turn it round the other way, we get mails from men asking do we want BBC, so it obviously suits some people to use their BBC.

I also want to say that not all black men have huge cocks."

Agree... 2incher here!

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

I like black men, and not because it's taboo, naughty, secretly disgusting or anything like that. It's because I find black and asian guys very attractive, and I really enjoy the fact they very obviously don't want to have a relationship with me. They just want NSA, uncomplicated, messy fun, and they seem to want it with me!

More power to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To turn it round the other way, we get mails from men asking do we want BBC, so it obviously suits some people to use their BBC.

I also want to say that not all black men have huge cocks.

Agree... 2incher here!"

Are your pants on fire- fibber!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just read ALL of this thread with great interest, and there are some very good points on both sides.

However, in the same way as I dislike being categorised for one thing, I also find it gives me an 'edge' (if perceived) over other ladies on here.

So I may get splinters now but I do agree that it is all about intent.

Personally it doesn't do it for me, but live and let live.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"To turn it round the other way, we get mails from men asking do we want BBC, so it obviously suits some people to use their BBC.

I also want to say that not all black men have huge cocks.

Agree... 2incher here!"

I think your tape measure might be busted Ahabs

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By *ue care and attentionWoman
over a year ago

birmingham

I've had a big tricolour cock in a red white and blue condom...does that count?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've had a big tricolour cock in a red white and blue condom...does that count? "

hopefully with a person attached to it...

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"theres sexual stereotyping as well as racial...its part of fab/swinging in general no???

but saying something like we are seeking BBC is not racist/stereotyping its asking for what it exactly is.

start making some broad generalisations which turn BBC's into "them type of guys"- now thats a different thing.

I doubt that anyone really thinks they are being invited as black guys as anything less than being people...they just happen to be black

Im actually really sorry for the OP at such an innocent and common type of fantasy for lots of people to have their post turned into negative kneejerkedness.....AGAIN!

There's nothing wrong with the request I think the worry is the way it has been phrased, albeit inadvertently.

Also what you said about being treated as people who just happen to be black is naive. Part of the reaction to this thread is due to people who have experienced the exact opposite. It is a non trivial concern! Don't try to trivialise it!

sorry but have to point out ur username mate...i stopped drawing attention to my colour a while ago...altho i describe myself as a blackmix IN my profile...but honestly cant u see u are already in a type of stereotyped name????"

Well pointed out! But in my defence the name is not what it appears. It was chosen because I used to read Marvel comics as a child, see superhero thread, and Black Bolt is one of those characters.

However the 'Black' bit was deliberate, not to exploit my blackness but to ensure, to those who did NOT wish to play with black guys, that I probably wasn't for them. And guess what? Despite having fairly clear photos on my profile I still get winks and messages from people and couples who clearly state their aversion to all things black.

So you raise a good point but it doesn't apply on this occasion. Naive? Perhaps, but not opportunistic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

aye ok lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from

Fabio you always seems to comment of these posts. We know you dont like people sterotyping or asking why no one will fuck asian, black etc etc, but rather than steering clear of these posts you always feel you need to post you comments. why not let everyone live their life and if you dont like the post just dont enter and comment."

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just don't get the problem and it's not because i'm black,.The couple just asked a specific question .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do people that dont like, or disagree with, these topics and then feel the need to reply with their disapproval also reply to every profile they browse past and dont like the look to tell them of their disapproval?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people that dont like, or disagree with, these topics and then feel the need to reply with their disapproval also reply to every profile they browse past and dont like the look to tell them of their disapproval?

"

some are to lazy even to browse someones profile...not me am a glorified perv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well I have had my first bbc since I was born and its so good i am keeping it, think i will keep it for rest of my life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do people that dont like, or disagree with, these topics and then feel the need to reply with their disapproval also reply to every profile they browse past and dont like the look to tell them of their disapproval?

some are to lazy even to browse someones profile...not me am a glorified perv"

im not even glorified im just a perv

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it felt just the same as when it was white,

but after caining the sun beds all week i did feel a bit warmer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like seeing black on white skin - or the other way around - or upside down - love. it.

Sandra x

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Do people that dont like, or disagree with, these topics and then feel the need to reply with their disapproval also reply to every profile they browse past and dont like the look to tell them of their disapproval?

"

eh?

Its a forum...people post for open debate,its no limited to only post if you agree,and its one of the reasons its a bloody good forum!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Holding my hands up, I havent read this post, read the title, jumped to the bottom....

Is it just me that finds the heading really offensive?

Leaving now.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"Holding my hands up, I havent read this post, read the title, jumped to the bottom....

Is it just me that finds the heading really offensive?

Leaving now. "

Well... No, I don't find it offensive. I am neither Black, nor do I have a big cock! I am guessing neither are or do you!

More to the point, I worry about people who get wound up trying to protect others! This is a forum for discussion and BBC is just another preference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

BBC= big black cock

guy= well theres a person

add both and what u have is a black guy with a big cock

there is nothing absolutely offensive, and the thread has turned into a spectacle where it really should never have went. Again....is that again?-surely not!

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By *lack_BoltMan
over a year ago

oxford


"aye ok lol"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mmmm..... BBC love it,black over white.so so sexy ...

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By *amschwingerzCouple
over a year ago

West


"jesus here we go again.....

I think the more this subject comes up the more I feel annoyed and the more I feel sad....

and then you wonder why people get perceptions and where they get them from

Fabio you always seems to comment of these posts. We know you dont like people sterotyping or asking why no one will fuck asian, black etc etc, but rather than steering clear of these posts you always feel you need to post you comments. why not let everyone live their life and if you dont like the post just dont enter and comment."

All the guy is saying is 'it doesnt matter'..

What would be the response if someone said 'i remember the first time I held hands with a black man'..

Whats the difference?...skin is skin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't really remember, was in my late teens.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can't really remember, was in my late teens. "

am offerin

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

"

I wield my massive negative energy power saber well

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

I wield my massive negative energy power saber well"

Can we feel the force?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

I wield my massive negative energy power saber well

Can we feel the force? "

yoda have to

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

I wield my massive negative energy power saber well

Can we feel the force?

yoda have to"

so long as you dont say " i am your father"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not had a big black one yet.. had big white ones, small white ones average white ones and small to average black ones... im sure ill get there one day..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Black or White....

Big cocks are only useful if they attached to a man that knows how to use it

I wield my massive negative energy power saber well

Can we feel the force?

yoda have to

so long as you dont say " i am your father" "

anakin tell u that wont happen lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"not had a big black one yet.. had big white ones, small white ones average white ones and small to average black ones... im sure ill get there one day.."

ive had none of those...im coy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eva has been fucked by a black guy who had a huge cock and she loved it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have in the past had two real girlfriends who were both black and i can tell you that the BBC thing is just a phallusy (!). There are big cocks of every creed and colour and black guys dont have a monopoly on them. I think the magic is the difference,the black/white thing. The two ladies i had relationships with expressed a preference for white guys and one in particular,got a particular kink out of watching herself being fucked by a white guy. I must admit it was the same for me. A very special thing for all concerned and i think there is something magical about black women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can't remember,but must have liked it! met loads black guys since!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If im honest it was a bit disapointing... (hope he doesnt use the forums)

Was a nice bloke, well packaged, i just dont like big cocks that dont get hard. I want hard!!!!

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By *littylikka69Man
over a year ago

West Midlands


"I have in the past had two real girlfriends who were both black and i can tell you that the BBC thing is just a phallusy (!). There are big cocks of every creed and colour and black guys dont have a monopoly on them. I think the magic is the difference,the black/white thing. The two ladies i had relationships with expressed a preference for white guys and one in particular,got a particular kink out of watching herself being fucked by a white guy. I must admit it was the same for me. A very special thing for all concerned and i think there is something magical about black women."

i too have had a couple of black girlfriends!,they did tell me they would not go with black guys but had a definite preference for white guys.

since then i have seen some lovely big black ladies at clubs in west midlands (inc chams) who love the attention from white guys!.

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester


"how was the feeling of your first BBC x we have arranged to meet a guy in Manchester soon so mrs m can sample her first one xxx "

Have only just 'discovered' this thread - but - in my experience - black cocks are no different to white cocks... the colour is immaterial to the feeling...

A cock is only as good as the rest of the guy it's attached to (including his brain) Doesn't matter what colour it is or what size it is if the guy is a total cock himself or if he has no idea what to do with it (some VV we men seem to think it's enough to have a large cock and that women should swoon in delight in the presence of one)

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