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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " It always makes me uncomfortable when I see it. It just seems to objectify people. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? It always makes me uncomfortable when I see it. It just seems to objectify people." Obviously, however, I'm not black! | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw " Yes well imagine my disdain when we got an invite to a bbc and bbw night Cheeky fuckers | |||
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"Agree with both....but a lot of black guys seem to play on the term...thinking it will impress? Even if they don’t really qualify for the first b. You don’t tend to see bwc being used as a term do you?" Hmmm, just as you see some women use the term MILF, but you don't tend to see men use the term FILF , do you? | |||
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"don't worry its a long running subject.... lol some people i am sure will be along to say "haters gonna hate"... the more the message gets out that it turns off as many people as it turns on, the more people will think about its usage.. or think twice about using it! anyway.... its a double edged sword... it only stops being used if people themselves dont use it if they see it as having some sort of advantage...." We agree, and find it a bit off-putting, like their cock is the only feature they have, Personally we think that people who use it are letting themselves down a bit, and maybe even spoiling it for others. | |||
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"We spoke to a guy on here who professed to hate the term bbc. He did, however, use it as part of his user name!" And that's the thing with Fabs you see.Some people say things on here, when in reality they mean the opposite. | |||
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"I've only met one guy with BBC in his user name and profile description. I should of asked for a refund under the trade description/ false advertising act " well it does beg the question how big. That’s gotta be subjective. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " You are among some who don't like it. Some others like it, and some others are indifferent. The thing to point out is: that it is not just black guys who use that label. There are 100s of women and couples profiles that state they are looking for BBC. So.... the guys that use the BBC label have their admirers. A guy using the BBC label is no different from women who use labels like: BBW, MILF, Cougar, Ebony etc Like I said people who use these labels have their admirers. Using these labels is how those people make themselves easily identifiable to those looking for them. Kudos to them I say. Labels will always be part and parcel of the swinging community. It will never go away. Don't like it ? Well Tough! Move on to the next "non-label" profile. | |||
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"I've only met one guy with BBC in his user name and profile description. I should of asked for a refund under the trade description/ false advertising act well it does beg the question how big. That’s gotta be subjective. " It would of been big if I was a dwarf . God knows what he measured it with | |||
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"For me the problem is people assuming it’s okay to call black guys that. If it’s in someone’s profile, fine, but if not don’t use it. " This right here. I think people think by saying it to a black guy that all black guys see it as a compliment. I disagree, I just feel it's very cringe. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock?" Racism is dying is it? You're either very naïve or very ignorant. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying is it? You're either very naïve or very ignorant." Yes it is. Is it still there? Definitely. But it is definitely decreasing with each generation. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " doesn't bother me its an abbreviation not a statement and if the guys big and black and got a cock a pretty accurate one | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? You are among some who don't like it. Some others like it, and some others are indifferent. The thing to point out is: that it is not just black guys who use that label. There are 100s of women and couples profiles that state they are looking for BBC. So.... the guys that use the BBC label have their admirers. A guy using the BBC label is no different from women who use labels like: BBW, MILF, Cougar, Ebony etc Like I said people who use these labels have their admirers. Using these labels is how those people make themselves easily identifiable to those looking for them. Kudos to them I say. Labels will always be part and parcel of the swinging community. It will never go away. Don't like it ? Well Tough! Move on to the next "non-label" profile." And with that perfectly balanced rational post, there's really no point reading any subsequent posts. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? You are among some who don't like it. Some others like it, and some others are indifferent. The thing to point out is: that it is not just black guys who use that label. There are 100s of women and couples profiles that state they are looking for BBC. So.... the guys that use the BBC label have their admirers. A guy using the BBC label is no different from women who use labels like: BBW, MILF, Cougar, Ebony etc Like I said people who use these labels have their admirers. Using these labels is how those people make themselves easily identifiable to those looking for them. Kudos to them I say. Labels will always be part and parcel of the swinging community. It will never go away. Don't like it ? Well Tough! Move on to the next "non-label" profile." Yep | |||
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"People are offended by everything these days, it seems you can't get it right whatever term or label you use to describe what you want. I have seen countless profiles on many sites where a black guy describes himself as BBC. " I agree, just can't win. Someone will be offended no matter what. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? doesn't bother me its an abbreviation not a statement and if the guys big and black and got a cock a pretty accurate one " But it’s not accurate to describe a person as a cock. Mrs | |||
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"Agree with both....but a lot of black guys seem to play on the term...thinking it will impress? Even if they don’t really qualify for the first b. You don’t tend to see bwc being used as a term do you?" | |||
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"I really hate the term (as I do 'queen of spades' too). A quick Google search will turn up some excellent articles on why BBC can be considered so objectifying, and how it reinforces very negative stereotypes about black men." Absolutely agree but I doubt many care about it’s implications of how these terms are used and this includes black men. In its simplistic form, BBC is fine for description only but it’s often used to describe a person, which I’ve experienced. Dating as a whole can be very difficult in general and if the only way to find easier dates is to accept being labelled a Spade, a BBC or for someone to have a fetish for black women then we’ll do without. -M | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? You are among some who don't like it. Some others like it, and some others are indifferent. The thing to point out is: that it is not just black guys who use that label. There are 100s of women and couples profiles that state they are looking for BBC. So.... the guys that use the BBC label have their admirers. A guy using the BBC label is no different from women who use labels like: BBW, MILF, Cougar, Ebony etc Like I said people who use these labels have their admirers. Using these labels is how those people make themselves easily identifiable to those looking for them. Kudos to them I say. Labels will always be part and parcel of the swinging community. It will never go away. Don't like it ? Well Tough! Move on to the next "non-label" profile." Personally I'm not keen on the term, but others have every right to describe themselves as such. When I was actively playing I did get fed up of the same, monosyllabic messages along the lines of 'wife want BBC, interested?', which usually received the reply 'no thanks, bore off!' | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw " You know I’m kinda seeing where you and the OP are coming from ... A question I’ve always thought is at what point do they class themselves as BBC or BBW ?? What if you are a black man with an average cock ? Do you still put the extra ‘b’ in ? Is there a certain weight for BBW ? I guess for club night advertising there is a purpose but not a fan of labels myself it’s nice to be unique It’s very interesting reading peoples views | |||
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" A question I’ve always thought is at what point do they class themselves as BBC or BBW ?? " I wonder if these labels become a part of the swinging community common vocabulary that people adopt without really thinking about what they actually signify. eg someone notices that some black men on the site refer to themselves as 'BBC' and so does it too, regardless of actual dick size. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " Same here, not as extreme but MILF and cougar too. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? doesn't bother me its an abbreviation not a statement and if the guys big and black and got a cock a pretty accurate one But it’s not accurate to describe a person as a cock. Mrs " BBC big black cock depends how you read it doesn't it ,its an abbreviation just like OHOC or SWF its not an insult its just a description that some black guys use to describe themselves in this lifestyle don't see the problem its only demeaning if you say it in a demeaning way,it doesn't define the person as a whole | |||
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"Statements like "... Everyone seems to be offended by something theses days." Are inaccurate. We are talking about a group of individuals, with a wide set of different values and standards. So, of course you will cause offense at some point using such labels. To avoid it, the best thing to do would be to simply address people by their name - like a human being. If we were to objectively talk about labels as good or bad, separate from subjective choice, then I would fall into them being generally a bad thing. As they mislead people, fetishize others and generally help keep people separate from one another." well done sir. this is a good statement | |||
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"As a straight guy I don’t search men’s profiles so don’t know how much the term is used but loads of white wormen use it in their profile “BBC only” etc. So it’s not just black guys using it for their own marketing. " Presumably the black men using the term are doing so in response to the language used by their target audience? | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " I hate people who have to say how big or what colour their cock is. I never feel the need to state that I have a barely average little white cock, it seems to explain itself actually. Maybe some people need it in writing so they can complain to customer services if it is not as advertised. Also I have seen many white guys who are just as big so shut up about it! Most guys have little confidence about their cock size anyway, so stop emphasizing it. People's personality matters more than a little flappy bit of skin. | |||
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"My friends brother that is black hates that label yet he thinks it's ok to call his white gf bmt black man's trash. She seems to like that label but to me both labels are idiotic and people only seem to like labels that are a advantage to them. " That sounds like a dysfunctional relationship to me! | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw You know I’m kinda seeing where you and the OP are coming from ... A question I’ve always thought is at what point do they class themselves as BBC or BBW ?? What if you are a black man with an average cock ? Do you still put the extra ‘b’ in ? Is there a certain weight for BBW ? I guess for club night advertising there is a purpose but not a fan of labels myself it’s nice to be unique It’s very interesting reading peoples views " At least the w in bbw refers to woman! | |||
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"As a straight guy I don’t search men’s profiles so don’t know how much the term is used but loads of white wormen use it in their profile “BBC only” etc. So it’s not just black guys using it for their own marketing. Presumably the black men using the term are doing so in response to the language used by their target audience?" and what is the language predominantly used on a sex site and what is the thing of the moment for middle aged white swinging couples at the moment ? | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? doesn't bother me its an abbreviation not a statement and if the guys big and black and got a cock a pretty accurate one But it’s not accurate to describe a person as a cock. Mrs BBC big black cock depends how you read it doesn't it ,its an abbreviation just like OHOC or SWF its not an insult its just a description that some black guys use to describe themselves in this lifestyle don't see the problem its only demeaning if you say it in a demeaning way,it doesn't define the person as a whole " Indeed. It’s not entirely clear if the term BBC refers to the person on the body part. If a man says ‘I have a BBC’ I would enterpret that to mean he has a big black cock. But if he says ‘I am a BBC’ then he is saying that he is a big black cock, and I’m sure why any man would want to describe himself as a cock. I guess the reality is that this has now become a term to describe black men whatever the size of their cock. Mrs | |||
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"People are always referring to themselves by their physical features. I don't understand why it becomes a problem for black people to do the same without causing offence or being judged as vapid. I've seen profiles with descriptors such as (and I'm not referring to any particular profiles. If there's anyone with these exact descriptors as their usernames it is purely coincidental); 'Blue Eyed' 'Blonde' 'Double D's' 'Perky Tits' 'Big Nipples' 'Big ol booty' 'Tanned' 'Porcelain' 'Bearded' 'Muscular' 'Tight pussy' 'Tall' 'Hung' 'Big' 'Ginger' Etc. We could go on all day! No one assumes these physical descriptors make you shallow or that you have less to offer or that your identity is limited to those descriptors. I'm interested in why only the descriptors containing 'black' are a problem. Is it the 'big' in 'big black cock' that causes offence or is it the 'black'? Are all descriptors of a big cock problematic or only a big black cock? I suggest all of us take a sincere look at our usernames and then tell yourself with a straight face that your username conveys all of your complexity and sophistry as a well rounded person. It doesn't! So why must a black man's username/title have the superpower of conveying that he's not shallow and self-absorbed? And I'm going to say "so what" if a person only has to offer that or is only looking for that. There are plenty of people looking for specific things and have specific fetishes. It's so funny that with all the profile pics of cocks, asses, tits and fannies flashing about the site and forum, those same profiles are feigning concern about sexual objectification, hah. It's understandable that it causes insecurities to rise either for black men who fear they have nothing to offer if they aren't/don't have a BBC or for white men who feel that 'big' has become associated only with 'black' leaving them feeling redundant too. Neither of those fears are valid excuses to project onto women and men who use the term willingly and to zero in on what they are looking for. I don't use it for myself but I'm not going to get offended if you call me BBC. If we can be adults and communicate our sexual preferences and boundaries clearly, then I can certainly just tell you what I prefer to be called if you get it wrong. No big deal. " Come on lads where’s all the Big White Cock? | |||
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" I never feel the need to state that I have a barely average little white cock... " But you just did?? | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? You are among some who don't like it. Some others like it, and some others are indifferent. The thing to point out is: that it is not just black guys who use that label. There are 100s of women and couples profiles that state they are looking for BBC. So.... the guys that use the BBC label have their admirers. A guy using the BBC label is no different from women who use labels like: BBW, MILF, Cougar, Ebony etc Like I said people who use these labels have their admirers. Using these labels is how those people make themselves easily identifiable to those looking for them. Kudos to them I say. Labels will always be part and parcel of the swinging community. It will never go away. Don't like it ? Well Tough! Move on to the next "non-label" profile." | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw " This and unicorn. | |||
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" and what is the thing of the moment for middle aged white swinging couples at the moment ? " I rather hope it's an elegant cream tea followed by Countryfile | |||
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"Personally I feel the term BBC robs me of my individuality and unfairly puts me into a general stereotyped category. Formost an entire race of men should not be categorised by the size of their dicks as if they have no other attributes worthy of mention. Ultimately I think a lot of black men will agree that we have much more going for us than what's in our pants and I would rather be considered based on my intellect, and personality .... What's in my pants should simply be the icing on the cake. " I agree with you but also have this to say; I just love how the very people who claim to be against objectification are the same ones fragmenting and reducing black men down to whatever feature they wish to accentuate in their selling pitch. To the women who have a particular or exclusive interest in black men, black men are ALREADY known to them for having a certain swagger and interesting personalities, not to mention bed performance. When those women who particularly like black men say 'BBC', they are referring to ALL of that in a package. The haters want to limit that to only the physical dick so that they can convey that black men have no personality if they have have a big cock and dare to take any ownership of it. It's a defensive psychological strategy to monopolise all other positive qualities men can have so you're only left with the big cock and appear to have less to offer. If you have a big black cock and a smoking hot woman messaged you right now saying she wants your big black cock today, are you going to say "time out, I have my intellect and personality to offer and I'd rather be chosen for that too"? If you don't have a BBC then fine, but c'mon. Intellect and personality will show and women ask for men to have that all the time. Why can't they also ask for a big cock if that's what they're looking for, and why not a black one? Men are being disingenuous here because we all like to talk about getting 'pussy' or getting a hot 'piece of ass', 'head', etc. What's with this assumption that men with big black cocks can't be intellectuals or have great personality? I'll tell you what, because it's a strategy to strip your public image of anything wholesome and complex to reduce you to being the sum total of whatever feature you accentuate in your self - description. It's competition. Don't fall for it. | |||
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"Personally I feel the term BBC robs me of my individuality and unfairly puts me into a general stereotyped category. Formost an entire race of men should not be categorised by the size of their dicks as if they have no other attributes worthy of mention. Ultimately I think a lot of black men will agree that we have much more going for us than what's in our pants and I would rather be considered based on my intellect, and personality .... What's in my pants should simply be the icing on the cake. I agree with you but also have this to say; I just love how the very people who claim to be against objectification are the same ones fragmenting and reducing black men down to whatever feature they wish to accentuate in their selling pitch. To the women who have a particular or exclusive interest in black men, black men are ALREADY known to them for having a certain swagger and interesting personalities, not to mention bed performance. When those women who particularly like black men say 'BBC', they are referring to ALL of that in a package. The haters want to limit that to only the physical dick so that they can convey that black men have no personality if they have have a big cock and dare to take any ownership of it. It's a defensive psychological strategy to monopolise all other positive qualities men can have so you're only left with the big cock and appear to have less to offer. If you have a big black cock and a smoking hot woman messaged you right now saying she wants your big black cock today, are you going to say "time out, I have my intellect and personality to offer and I'd rather be chosen for that too"? If you don't have a BBC then fine, but c'mon. Intellect and personality will show and women ask for men to have that all the time. Why can't they also ask for a big cock if that's what they're looking for, and why not a black one? Men are being disingenuous here because we all like to talk about getting 'pussy' or getting a hot 'piece of ass', 'head', etc. What's with this assumption that men with big black cocks can't be intellectuals or have great personality? I'll tell you what, because it's a strategy to strip your public image of anything wholesome and complex to reduce you to being the sum total of whatever feature you accentuate in your self - description. It's competition. Don't fall for it." Thanks you Sir Some ( not all) people seem to have "less" issues with women using labels such as: BBW, MILF, Couger, Ebony, Queen of spades etc. But as long as it is an issue to do with single men ( especially black men), some people get the Hump!! | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? It always makes me uncomfortable when I see it. It just seems to objectify people." does BBW make u uncomfortable as well ? I don't have any problems with any it like a text message instead of big black cock (bbc)big white cock (bwc)big beautiful woman (bbw)it makes it easier does the British broad cast (BBC)put u off ? of course not so why bother lol | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs" The problem is that you and some others seem to interpret these labels " as it says on the tin"; when in fact that's not how they are necessarily used or interpreted by those who hold these labels or their admirers. For Eg the term BBW = Big Beautiful women. Are all BBWs beautiful? to everyone? Certainly not. When some women use this label the are just saying that they are "big" and not necessary claiming that they are beautiful as the label suggests. Sometimes the emphasis is on the size of the woman rather than her beauty. In the same way when the term BBC is used, it sometimes just indicates that it is a black guy being refereed to. The emphasis is on the colour of the guy rather than his cock. There are times when some people advertise a BBC party. The advertisers don't always check whether all the guys have a big cock. They are simply asking "Black guys" to attend, irrespective of cock size. | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs" Well i learnt something new i thought a BBW was a big built woman lol Mr Badcherry | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs The problem is that you and some others seem to interpret these labels " as it says on the tin"; when in fact that's not how they are necessarily used or interpreted by those who hold these labels or their admirers. For Eg the term BBW = Big Beautiful women. Are all BBWs beautiful? to everyone? Certainly not. When some women use this label the are just saying that they are "big" and not necessary claiming that they are beautiful as the label suggests. Sometimes the emphasis is on the size of the woman rather than her beauty. In the same way when the term BBC is used, it sometimes just indicates that it is a black guy being refereed to. The emphasis is on the colour of the guy rather than his cock. There are times when some people advertise a BBC party. The advertisers don't always check whether all the guys have a big cock. They are simply asking "Black guys" to attend, irrespective of cock size. " Sure, I’m aware the the term BBC has probably changed its meaning and just means a ‘black man’ on the swing scene. Mrs | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs Well i learnt something new i thought a BBW was a big built woman lol Mr Badcherry" The term I’d heard was big bouncy women. But I suspect beautiful is the preferred word than bouncy Mrs | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs Well i learnt something new i thought a BBW was a big built woman lol Mr Badcherry The term I’d heard was big bouncy women. But I suspect beautiful is the preferred word than bouncy Mrs" I suspect you are right | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? It always makes me uncomfortable when I see it. It just seems to objectify people.does BBW make u uncomfortable as well ? I don't have any problems with any it like a text message instead of big black cock (bbc)big white cock (bwc)big beautiful woman (bbw)it makes it easier does the British broad cast (BBC)put u off ? of course not so why bother lol " To a degree yes, BBW is a term I'm not keen on. Again it does seem to reduce a person to a one dimensional caricature. The BBC is an acronym, entirely different. | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " I hate the term, because it automatically rules me out! ???? neither big, nor black haha | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? I hate the term, because it automatically rules me out! ???? neither big, nor black haha" Be your self | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? It always makes me uncomfortable when I see it. It just seems to objectify people.does BBW make u uncomfortable as well ? I don't have any problems with any it like a text message instead of big black cock (bbc)big white cock (bwc)big beautiful woman (bbw)it makes it easier does the British broad cast (BBC)put u off ? of course not so why bother lol To a degree yes, BBW is a term I'm not keen on. Again it does seem to reduce a person to a one dimensional caricature. The BBC is an acronym, entirely different." VWE strikes horror into Justin when he sees it | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs The problem is that you and some others seem to interpret these labels " as it says on the tin"; when in fact that's not how they are necessarily used or interpreted by those who hold these labels or their admirers. For Eg the term BBW = Big Beautiful women. Are all BBWs beautiful? to everyone? Certainly not. When some women use this label the are just saying that they are "big" and not necessary claiming that they are beautiful as the label suggests. Sometimes the emphasis is on the size of the woman rather than her beauty. In the same way when the term BBC is used, it sometimes just indicates that it is a black guy being refereed to. The emphasis is on the colour of the guy rather than his cock. There are times when some people advertise a BBC party. The advertisers don't always check whether all the guys have a big cock. They are simply asking "Black guys" to attend, irrespective of cock size. " Well said | |||
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"I,m not a fan of people saying BBC but what I really hate is when females refer to themselves as Queen of spades, that's so fking rude. XXX" never heard that expression | |||
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"Statements like "... Everyone seems to be offended by something theses days." Are inaccurate. We are talking about a group of individuals, with a wide set of different values and standards. So, of course you will cause offense at some point using such labels. To avoid it, the best thing to do would be to simply address people by their name - like a human being. If we were to objectively talk about labels as good or bad, separate from subjective choice, then I would fall into them being generally a bad thing. As they mislead people, fetishize others and generally help keep people separate from one another. well done sir. this is a good statement " Thanks. Just to pick up on a couple of different points raised since myself last post. Sure there are men, women and everything in-between that don't seem to have a problem with a label like BBC. However, I would say, that they are playing on expected behaviour (and so are those who look for them). In porn and even on the swinger scene there are nights and clubs that play off of this term and what it implies. Stepping a bit further back, it is also an expected social bias/norm to think of men of African/Carribbean decent as that. You don't see many images or examples contradicting it or challenging it in any meaningful way. As to not having an issue with someone saying it (or any label) in the heat of the moment. I would say you are missing the fact that the context changes, which is distinct from one as a label and one as a statement. Subtle, yes, but important when talking about labels. | |||
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"Statements like "... Everyone seems to be offended by something theses days." Are inaccurate. We are talking about a group of individuals, with a wide set of different values and standards. So, of course you will cause offense at some point using such labels. To avoid it, the best thing to do would be to simply address people by their name - like a human being. If we were to objectively talk about labels as good or bad, separate from subjective choice, then I would fall into them being generally a bad thing. As they mislead people, fetishize others and generally help keep people separate from one another. well done sir. this is a good statement Thanks. Just to pick up on a couple of different points raised since myself last post. Sure there are men, women and everything in-between that don't seem to have a problem with a label like BBC. However, I would say, that they are playing on expected behaviour (and so are those who look for them). In porn and even on the swinger scene there are nights and clubs that play off of this term and what it implies. Stepping a bit further back, it is also an expected social bias/norm to think of men of African/Carribbean decent as that. You don't see many images or examples contradicting it or challenging it in any meaningful way. As to not having an issue with someone saying it (or any label) in the heat of the moment. I would say you are missing the fact that the context changes, which is distinct from one as a label and one as a statement. Subtle, yes, but important when talking about labels." labels mean nothing they are unimportant and imposed by others ,abbreviations mean nothing they are short cuts to generalisations | |||
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"There is a difference between describing a person as a big black cock versus a big beautiful women. The former is describing a human being as a body part, the latter is not. I personally am not prepared to describe a man as a cock, any more so than I would be happy being described as a pussy. But each to their own - if someone doesn’t mind being described as a body part that’s fine. Mrs The problem is that you and some others seem to interpret these labels " as it says on the tin"; when in fact that's not how they are necessarily used or interpreted by those who hold these labels or their admirers. For Eg the term BBW = Big Beautiful women. Are all BBWs beautiful? to everyone? Certainly not. When some women use this label the are just saying that they are "big" and not necessary claiming that they are beautiful as the label suggests. Sometimes the emphasis is on the size of the woman rather than her beauty. In the same way when the term BBC is used, it sometimes just indicates that it is a black guy being refereed to. The emphasis is on the colour of the guy rather than his cock. There are times when some people advertise a BBC party. The advertisers don't always check whether all the guys have a big cock. They are simply asking "Black guys" to attend, irrespective of cock size. " And in nearly every thread like this you’ll find a woman comment ( yes see above somewhere) that she met a BBC and how he should be done for trades description. I.e. he was a black guy just didn’t have a big cock. So you expect average endowed black guys to offer themselves up for ridicule potentially by assuming people think bbc means any black guy | |||
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"oh another pc thread....if u don't like the term on here show some balls and leave the site" Isn’t it amazing how tolerant people are when something doesn’t affect them directly. | |||
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"I'm wondering where all the "big black cock" porn is that features small cocks. Because I searched for some and I couldn't find it." all in the interest of research of course?!! | |||
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"I'm wondering where all the "big black cock" porn is that features small cocks. Because I searched for some and I couldn't find it. all in the interest of research of course?!!" I'm ill in bed. Thought I'd do some rigorous academic research. Can conclusively say that "big black cock" doesn't include small black cocks. | |||
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"I'm wondering where all the "big black cock" porn is that features small cocks. Because I searched for some and I couldn't find it. all in the interest of research of course?!! I'm ill in bed. Thought I'd do some rigorous academic research. Can conclusively say that "big black cock" doesn't include small black cocks." I did some research too many years now. Invited to a house party and when I got there all the single guys were black. I’d never had sex with a black man before that night so I took it upon myself to research the myth. Out of 9 guys, 8 were of normal girth and length ( normal - same as you’d expect average Caucasian guys) and one guy was around 12” True story | |||
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"Forgive me but I'm late to the forums this morning. Tell me there's been at least one gag about the actual BBC, licence fee and gender pay gap? " There is | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. " but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not " I'm not sure if it is being seen as deliberately racist per se? I think some people are comfortable with it, some not. We all see the world from different angles so it perfectly legitimate to find it personally offensive even if the general consensus is ok with it. I think some people want to be seen as more than just a big black cock. An others use it to request or sell a physical attribute (and maybe some other stereotypical connotations). It's more an issuse of both freedom to express a desire and freedom to object to things you don't like. | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not Quite obviously not everyone agrees with you on that. " not many disagree though and as a white man brought up in Brixton where all my mates were black I think I speak with a fairly experienced view on it ,most don't see it as derogatory ,some just like to kick back which I understand but a bit fed up with the racist card most of it not all is pointless | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not " Quite obviously not everyone agrees with that. And your response just blows apart the notion that all black guys should accept the term bbc. You say if my guy is big - yes check. Black - yes check. Has a cock - yes check. So what about small statutered guys with normal size cocks.... BBC - big black cock not big black and has a cock | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not Quite obviously not everyone agrees with you on that. not many disagree though and as a white man brought up in Brixton where all my mates were black I think I speak with a fairly experienced view on it ,most don't see it as derogatory ,some just like to kick back which I understand but a bit fed up with the racist card most of it not all is pointless " Back up there buddy. Read my answers and tell me where I called racism. | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not Quite obviously not everyone agrees with that. And your response just blows apart the notion that all black guys should accept the term bbc. You say if my guy is big - yes check. Black - yes check. Has a cock - yes check. So what about small statutered guys with normal size cocks.... BBC - big black cock not big black and has a cock " but are they the ones complaining? | |||
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"We don’t use the term and we don’t appreciate people assuming it’s okay to call Sir that. We would meet a guy who described himself as bbc. That’s his prerogative. We have no objections for those seeking out BBC, but they needn’t come knocking on our door. but its not even a discriptive term if your other half is black and big and definitely has a cock which obviously you love along with the rest of him ,I think its really quite sad that its another abbreviation / word/ description that is being seen as a deliberately racist manner when quite obviously its not Quite obviously not everyone agrees with you on that. not many disagree though and as a white man brought up in Brixton where all my mates were black I think I speak with a fairly experienced view on it ,most don't see it as derogatory ,some just like to kick back which I understand but a bit fed up with the racist card most of it not all is pointless Back up there buddy. Read my answers and tell me where I called racism. " you're a white woman complaining on behalf of your partner about a term that many black guys on here use to describe themselves ,its a sex site cock gets mentioned a lot ,big gets mentioned a lot so what is your point if its not about the black ? | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " Don't like it or bbw but (1) how people wish to portray themselves is none of my business as long as people use it individually and not assume every black/fat person likes it. (2) It's a "ready reckoner" so easy to avoid. | |||
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"I am sorry but I agree with OP. all these dehumanising depersonalising terms denigrate both parties. we may be swingers but we are also individuals and people. One trait or aspect of who we are is still only one aspect. these terms are like shopping list items objectifying us all. I would detest someone discribing me as HWC! Good sex needs so much more than one item and swingers of all people should know that. " its an abbreviation as is VWE or SWF or OHOC how do they dehumanise | |||
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"I am sorry but I agree with OP. all these dehumanising depersonalising terms denigrate both parties. we may be swingers but we are also individuals and people. One trait or aspect of who we are is still only one aspect. these terms are like shopping list items objectifying us all. I would detest someone discribing me as HWC! Good sex needs so much more than one item and swingers of all people should know that. its an abbreviation as is VWE or SWF or OHOC how do they dehumanise " it focuses on one body part and on race as the defining feature of a person. while people are the sum total of all that makes them who they are. for BBC you just as easily could say big black dildo or WC for white cunt. it seporates the body part from the person. you cant denie the race element either as white guys never use the addreviation HWC. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock?" Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years. | |||
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"I am sorry but I agree with OP. all these dehumanising depersonalising terms denigrate both parties. we may be swingers but we are also individuals and people. One trait or aspect of who we are is still only one aspect. these terms are like shopping list items objectifying us all. I would detest someone discribing me as HWC! Good sex needs so much more than one item and swingers of all people should know that. its an abbreviation as is VWE or SWF or OHOC how do they dehumanise it focuses on one body part and on race as the defining feature of a person. while people are the sum total of all that makes them who they are. for BBC you just as easily could say big black dildo or WC for white cunt. it seporates the body part from the person. you cant denie the race element either as white guys never use the addreviation HWC." its a sex site so everyone who mentions a cock their cock in conversation is dehumanising themselves im sorry theirs much that's wrong with swinging and sex and morals but if you're going to find an abbreviation that many guys themselves use as dehumanising then you're in the wrong place ,now an argument I am in favour of and support is not mentioning race at all but due to the personal nature of what is looked for here ,we have to be open minded about certain things don't you think ? | |||
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"I am sorry but I agree with OP. all these dehumanising depersonalising terms denigrate both parties. we may be swingers but we are also individuals and people. One trait or aspect of who we are is still only one aspect. these terms are like shopping list items objectifying us all. I would detest someone discribing me as HWC! Good sex needs so much more than one item and swingers of all people should know that. " I agree that the objectification, dehumanising and fetishism is part and parcel of the site. I personally agree that it's human and personal attributes of a person that is far more intresting, exciting and hotter to me. But everyone is on here for different reasons. For examples there maybe couples not in the slight interest of forming personal realtionships with others, just into filling fantasies based on criteria. Although one could argue its problematic to purely see someone as an object who are we to judge what goes one between consenting adults? I do think however it is poor to assume people are ok with the use of terms like BBC, BBW etc without knowing they use the term them self. I wouldn't set out to judge or police the product of people's desires in this adult space. This our playground to (with in reason granted) explore our desires even if they are offensive to some. After all that offence is subjective and we have to use context too. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years." This is very sad! I assume due to terrorism? | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years. This is very sad! I assume due to terrorism?" lol | |||
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"I am sorry but I agree with OP. all these dehumanising depersonalising terms denigrate both parties. we may be swingers but we are also individuals and people. One trait or aspect of who we are is still only one aspect. these terms are like shopping list items objectifying us all. I would detest someone discribing me as HWC! Good sex needs so much more than one item and swingers of all people should know that. I agree that the objectification, dehumanising and fetishism is part and parcel of the site. I personally agree that it's human and personal attributes of a person that is far more intresting, exciting and hotter to me. But everyone is on here for different reasons. For examples there maybe couples not in the slight interest of forming personal realtionships with others, just into filling fantasies based on criteria. Although one could argue its problematic to purely see someone as an object who are we to judge what goes one between consenting adults? I do think however it is poor to assume people are ok with the use of terms like BBC, BBW etc without knowing they use the term them self. I wouldn't set out to judge or police the product of people's desires in this adult space. This our playground to (with in reason granted) explore our desires even if they are offensive to some. After all that offence is subjective and we have to use context too. " ah | |||
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"Personally I feel the term BBC robs me of my individuality and unfairly puts me into a general stereotyped category. Formost an entire race of men should not be categorised by the size of their dicks as if they have no other attributes worthy of mention. Ultimately I think a lot of black men will agree that we have much more going for us than what's in our pants and I would rather be considered based on my intellect, and personality .... What's in my pants should simply be the icing on the cake. I agree with you but also have this to say; I just love how the very people who claim to be against objectification are the same ones fragmenting and reducing black men down to whatever feature they wish to accentuate in their selling pitch. To the women who have a particular or exclusive interest in black men, black men are ALREADY known to them for having a certain swagger and interesting personalities, not to mention bed performance. When those women who particularly like black men say 'BBC', they are referring to ALL of that in a package. The haters want to limit that to only the physical dick so that they can convey that black men have no personality if they have have a big cock and dare to take any ownership of it. It's a defensive psychological strategy to monopolise all other positive qualities men can have so you're only left with the big cock and appear to have less to offer. If you have a big black cock and a smoking hot woman messaged you right now saying she wants your big black cock today, are you going to say "time out, I have my intellect and personality to offer and I'd rather be chosen for that too"? If you don't have a BBC then fine, but c'mon. Intellect and personality will show and women ask for men to have that all the time. Why can't they also ask for a big cock if that's what they're looking for, and why not a black one? Men are being disingenuous here because we all like to talk about getting 'pussy' or getting a hot 'piece of ass', 'head', etc. What's with this assumption that men with big black cocks can't be intellectuals or have great personality? I'll tell you what, because it's a strategy to strip your public image of anything wholesome and complex to reduce you to being the sum total of whatever feature you accentuate in your self - description. It's competition. Don't fall for it." Marry me! | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years." i am so sad to hear this but I recognise the truth in it. national issues have driven us back towards the 50s! I cant say we were ever perfect but we were better than this and we all have to stand up to it when we see it. I literally had to call out a guy in the street on saturday night talking about "internationals" stealing our jobs! As swingers we all know what we like and thats fine. its the failure to find out about other people and the making of these "Preferences" based on ignorance that infuriates me. I hope the new year gives you less hassle and more fun in 2018. happy Swinging to you. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years. This is very sad! I assume due to terrorism?" Funnily no...Brexit! It has emboldened some people. | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years. i am so sad to hear this but I recognise the truth in it. national issues have driven us back towards the 50s! I cant say we were ever perfect but we were better than this and we all have to stand up to it when we see it. I literally had to call out a guy in the street on saturday night talking about "internationals" stealing our jobs! As swingers we all know what we like and thats fine. its the failure to find out about other people and the making of these "Preferences" based on ignorance that infuriates me. I hope the new year gives you less hassle and more fun in 2018. happy Swinging to you." I've been tempered in the fires of the 60s...I really don't take it to heart. I'm a happy bunny. That said I do worry for my grandchildren. I'd hate for them to grow up in the hatred I did. | |||
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"Personally I feel the term BBC robs me of my individuality and unfairly puts me into a general stereotyped category. Formost an entire race of men should not be categorised by the size of their dicks as if they have no other attributes worthy of mention. Ultimately I think a lot of black men will agree that we have much more going for us than what's in our pants and I would rather be considered based on my intellect, and personality .... What's in my pants should simply be the icing on the cake. I agree with you but also have this to say; I just love how the very people who claim to be against objectification are the same ones fragmenting and reducing black men down to whatever feature they wish to accentuate in their selling pitch. To the women who have a particular or exclusive interest in black men, black men are ALREADY known to them for having a certain swagger and interesting personalities, not to mention bed performance. When those women who particularly like black men say 'BBC', they are referring to ALL of that in a package. The haters want to limit that to only the physical dick so that they can convey that black men have no personality if they have have a big cock and dare to take any ownership of it. It's a defensive psychological strategy to monopolise all other positive qualities men can have so you're only left with the big cock and appear to have less to offer. If you have a big black cock and a smoking hot woman messaged you right now saying she wants your big black cock today, are you going to say "time out, I have my intellect and personality to offer and I'd rather be chosen for that too"? If you don't have a BBC then fine, but c'mon. Intellect and personality will show and women ask for men to have that all the time. Why can't they also ask for a big cock if that's what they're looking for, and why not a black one? Men are being disingenuous here because we all like to talk about getting 'pussy' or getting a hot 'piece of ass', 'head', etc. What's with this assumption that men with big black cocks can't be intellectuals or have great personality? I'll tell you what, because it's a strategy to strip your public image of anything wholesome and complex to reduce you to being the sum total of whatever feature you accentuate in your self - description. It's competition. Don't fall for it. Marry me! thought you were already married ? " I'm Fab single! | |||
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"I couldnt care less what something is called anymore. Racism is dying, homosexuality is more neutral than ever before and there's about 10 genders. Who cares what someone calls a cock? Racism is dying?!! I'm first generation from the Windrush. My partner is white, one of my son in law's is white and three of my brother in law's. I state this to show I have no racial axe to grind, but I'll tell you, as a black woman born and bred in London, in my 57 years I've never encountered the level of racism as I have over the last couple of years. i am so sad to hear this but I recognise the truth in it. national issues have driven us back towards the 50s! I cant say we were ever perfect but we were better than this and we all have to stand up to it when we see it. I literally had to call out a guy in the street on saturday night talking about "internationals" stealing our jobs! As swingers we all know what we like and thats fine. its the failure to find out about other people and the making of these "Preferences" based on ignorance that infuriates me. I hope the new year gives you less hassle and more fun in 2018. happy Swinging to you. I've been tempered in the fires of the 60s...I really don't take it to heart. I'm a happy bunny. That said I do worry for my grandchildren. I'd hate for them to grow up in the hatred I did." NO PASARAN! Tempered in the fires of the early 70s me. for evil to Triumph only takes good people to do nothing. peace. | |||
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"Personally I feel the term BBC robs me of my individuality and unfairly puts me into a general stereotyped category. Formost an entire race of men should not be categorised by the size of their dicks as if they have no other attributes worthy of mention. Ultimately I think a lot of black men will agree that we have much more going for us than what's in our pants and I would rather be considered based on my intellect, and personality .... What's in my pants should simply be the icing on the cake. I agree with you but also have this to say; I just love how the very people who claim to be against objectification are the same ones fragmenting and reducing black men down to whatever feature they wish to accentuate in their selling pitch. To the women who have a particular or exclusive interest in black men, black men are ALREADY known to them for having a certain swagger and interesting personalities, not to mention bed performance. When those women who particularly like black men say 'BBC', they are referring to ALL of that in a package. The haters want to limit that to only the physical dick so that they can convey that black men have no personality if they have have a big cock and dare to take any ownership of it. It's a defensive psychological strategy to monopolise all other positive qualities men can have so you're only left with the big cock and appear to have less to offer. If you have a big black cock and a smoking hot woman messaged you right now saying she wants your big black cock today, are you going to say "time out, I have my intellect and personality to offer and I'd rather be chosen for that too"? If you don't have a BBC then fine, but c'mon. Intellect and personality will show and women ask for men to have that all the time. Why can't they also ask for a big cock if that's what they're looking for, and why not a black one? Men are being disingenuous here because we all like to talk about getting 'pussy' or getting a hot 'piece of ass', 'head', etc. What's with this assumption that men with big black cocks can't be intellectuals or have great personality? I'll tell you what, because it's a strategy to strip your public image of anything wholesome and complex to reduce you to being the sum total of whatever feature you accentuate in your self - description. It's competition. Don't fall for it. Marry me! thought you were already married ? I'm Fab single! " ooooooo that could mean anything here | |||
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"its nice to know what the wife may get Except the people above say that it doesn't infer penis size at all. " In some contexts it doesn't infer penis size at all, as much as BBW does't always infer beauty. | |||
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"Surely it’s NBD (no big deal)! In fact, if you are on fab and seeking a dick that is both black in colour - and large, then it’s a pretty useful acronym! I mean is racism even really a thing anymore (amongst most normal people?)..! I know that if we wanted the aforementioned LBD (large black dick), then we’d search for BBC! If a black guy is using the phrase to promote himself then he clearly doesn’t mind - and if we were in a club for example and a black guy didn’t like the phrase then we would respect that? It’s in very wide use so you can only assume most people are cool with it as a sexual term and that it’s not intended to be derogatory? Just our view! " Look at previous posts in this thread and all your questions will be answered | |||
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"Am I the only black guy on here that despise the term BBC. Whoelse feels the term is derogatory? " I am part of an interracial couple and I detest BBC. It labels every black guy as a BIG BLACK COCK. Everyone is different and no matter how big a brain is very helpful. So please no BBC lol | |||
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"I am neutral about the term BBC, I am not looking for acceptance from anyone, I know who I am and I love who I am. I guess in a club setting when I start chatting with people I can actually determine their psychological orientation and this will determine if I continue speaking to them or not. I do this with black men and women too because I want to determine if there is any psychological damage and quantify the extent of the damage. If I discover any negative psychological orientation , I simply walk away from the person. If there is no pyscological damage then we are cool. " You can determine 'psychological damage' from chatting to people in clubs? You sir, are a very wise man indeed | |||
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"I am neutral about the term BBC, I am not looking for acceptance from anyone, I know who I am and I love who I am. I guess in a club setting when I start chatting with people I can actually determine their psychological orientation and this will determine if I continue speaking to them or not. I do this with black men and women too because I want to determine if there is any psychological damage and quantify the extent of the damage. If I discover any negative psychological orientation , I simply walk away from the person. If there is no pyscological damage then we are cool. You can determine 'psychological damage' from chatting to people in clubs? You sir, are a very wise man indeed" I think everyone on this thread is wise beyond their years and if the OP and those who disagreed with the abbreviation BBC are offended by the use of said abbreviation I for one will never use it knowing they are in my company,I rarely use it anyway unless its part of a thread | |||
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"I am always looking for an opportunity to learn, I noticed that whenever people don't like a label they truly are unhappy about what the label stands for not the label itself but find themselves compelled to be identified by that label. They would love to be in a position where the label does not describe them. The beautiful lady has said she does not mind being called a hotwife, I am neutral about BBC ,if BBC is used in an abusive and disrespectful manner then I will take offence on the behaviour displayed by the person using the word but not the word BBC itself, so for the guys who find the word BBC offensive, what exactly is it about the word you find offensive,please kindly educate us." from what I gather they feel dehumanised by it | |||
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"Political correctness gone mad.if a woman need someone black with big cock. why the out cry? Or you prefer her say I need well endowed black male? Same same in my eyes. To me I don't see debasement with BBC abbreviation. Grow up folks. Lol" No. It's not political correctness gone mad. I don't think anyone here is calling for the term to be banned. Everyone here is free to make a choice-women, men, TVs, blacks, whites, straights, gays and bis. How they choose to exercise that choice is down to them and personally folks who refer to black males as BBC are not usually the people Ive had the best experiences with. | |||
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"I am always looking for an opportunity to learn, I noticed that whenever people don't like a label they truly are unhappy about what the label stands for not the label itself but find themselves compelled to be identified by that label. They would love to be in a position where the label does not describe them. The beautiful lady has said she does not mind being called a hotwife, I am neutral about BBC ,if BBC is used in an abusive and disrespectful manner then I will take offence on the behaviour displayed by the person using the word but not the word BBC itself, so for the guys who find the word BBC offensive, what exactly is it about the word you find offensive,please kindly educate us." If you do a bit of a google you'll find quite a few articles about it, and then nobody will have to waste their time explaining... | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw You know I’m kinda seeing where you and the OP are coming from ... A question I’ve always thought is at what point do they class themselves as BBC or BBW ?? What if you are a black man with an average cock ? Do you still put the extra ‘b’ in ? Is there a certain weight for BBW ? I guess for club night advertising there is a purpose but not a fan of labels myself it’s nice to be unique It’s very interesting reading peoples views " I'm one of those black guys with a standard sized cock. Did try to change the meaning to Beautiful Black Cock but it never really caught on lol Humour aside I used to really dislike the term for reasons already given in this thread, now I am a bit more relaxed. Language is both a delicate and powerful tool and its oh so easy to misinterpret meaning and intent unless one is face to face with a person. My general rule is that its fine for people to like what they like. So long as there is mutual respect all around,. So if no one is overly fetishised and objectified I'm going to be fine with letting things flow. | |||
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"I dislike that term along with bbw You know I’m kinda seeing where you and the OP are coming from ... A question I’ve always thought is at what point do they class themselves as BBC or BBW ?? What if you are a black man with an average cock ? Do you still put the extra ‘b’ in ? Is there a certain weight for BBW ? I guess for club night advertising there is a purpose but not a fan of labels myself it’s nice to be unique It’s very interesting reading peoples views I'm one of those black guys with a standard sized cock. Did try to change the meaning to Beautiful Black Cock but it never really caught on lol Humour aside I used to really dislike the term for reasons already given in this thread, now I am a bit more relaxed. Language is both a delicate and powerful tool and its oh so easy to misinterpret meaning and intent unless one is face to face with a person. My general rule is that its fine for people to like what they like. So long as there is mutual respect all around,. So if no one is overly fetishised and objectified I'm going to be fine with letting things flow." now this is how it should be ,all messages can be read in a negative way but the flip side is I read everything as much as possible with a positive slant | |||
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"I am always looking for an opportunity to learn, I noticed that whenever people don't like a label they truly are unhappy about what the label stands for not the label itself but find themselves compelled to be identified by that label. They would love to be in a position where the label does not describe them. The beautiful lady has said she does not mind being called a hotwife, I am neutral about BBC ,if BBC is used in an abusive and disrespectful manner then I will take offence on the behaviour displayed by the person using the word but not the word BBC itself, so for the guys who find the word BBC offensive, what exactly is it about the word you find offensive,please kindly educate us." Some people find it offensive partly due to the fact that they don't fully understand its meaning or use. When the term BBW is used; in many cases it just means "Big Woman". It doesn't always infer beauty as the label suggests. In the same way BBC in certain contexts means "Black Man" and doesn't always infer cock size. 1) When you see "BBC Party" advertised, in many cases the hosts are not organising a party for big cocks. All it means is a party where black men are in attendance. 2) Some women/ couples have this on their profile : "BBC Only" I have chatted with some of them and they say they are not fussy about cock size, they are more concerned about how it is used. So when they say "BBC only" what it means is that they only meet Black Men. 3) Sometimes BBC is just a shorthand or abbreviation for Black man. For EG a lady wants to meet: Instead of saying "BBW looking for a black man" she finds it is easier to just say: "bbw4bbc" She's not saying she's looking for a big cock; she's just looking for a black man. Sometimes too much political correctness can cloud one's view of reality. Other times people do "word-for-word" interpretation of these labels instead of understanding their meaning and use in a wider context. If you want to do word-for-word interpretation, then you need to ask why "Queen of Spades" doesn't wear a crown and live in a palace. | |||
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"while i fully accept and respect the context we are having this debate in, Swinging, and that this culture has its own norms and rules. I cant escape the further fact that we sit inside a wider culture of the UK and we impact that culture and world just as anyone else does. the advantage we should have is the experience of swinging should enrich our respect for difference and widen our experience of that difference with intamate understandings. isolating the debate to our own community alone denies our place in the wider world. What we say here and think here has impact on the wider world. The wider world Impacts us as Swingers as well. using terms that comodify a person smacks of property (Sub Dom play aside for now different discussion) that type of view point has Big Historical problems. In a subtle way commodifying terms to discribe people are simply less obvious terms than Slave or Chatle." | |||
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"I am always looking for an opportunity to learn, I noticed that whenever people don't like a label they truly are unhappy about what the label stands for not the label itself but find themselves compelled to be identified by that label. They would love to be in a position where the label does not describe them. The beautiful lady has said she does not mind being called a hotwife, I am neutral about BBC ,if BBC is used in an abusive and disrespectful manner then I will take offence on the behaviour displayed by the person using the word but not the word BBC itself, so for the guys who find the word BBC offensive, what exactly is it about the word you find offensive,please kindly educate us. Some people find it offensive partly due to the fact that they don't fully understand its meaning or use. When the term BBW is used; in many cases it just means "Big Woman". It doesn't always infer beauty as the label suggests. In the same way BBC in certain contexts means "Black Man" and doesn't always infer cock size. 1) When you see "BBC Party" advertised, in many cases the hosts are not organising a party for big cocks. All it means is a party where black men are in attendance. 2) Some women/ couples have this on their profile : "BBC Only" I have chatted with some of them and they say they are not fussy about cock size, they are more concerned about how it is used. So when they say "BBC only" what it means is that they only meet Black Men. 3) Sometimes BBC is just a shorthand or abbreviation for Black man. For EG a lady wants to meet: Instead of saying "BBW looking for a black man" she finds it is easier to just say: "bbw4bbc" She's not saying she's looking for a big cock; she's just looking for a black man. Sometimes too much political correctness can cloud one's view of reality. Other times people do "word-for-word" interpretation of these labels instead of understanding their meaning and use in a wider context. If you want to do word-for-word interpretation, then you need to ask why "Queen of Spades" doesn't wear a crown and live in a palace." Yes I’ve come to realise throughout this thread that BBC has evolved to become a swinging term for ‘black man’. If that’s the case, that’s cool by me as long as it’s cool by the men being called that. I was originally not keen on the word simply because I thought it was describing men as cocks. But I do get that language constantly evolves. Not sure how I’d feel if though TWP (tight white pussy) became the swinging term that black men use for white women. Mrs | |||
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"I am always looking for an opportunity to learn, I noticed that whenever people don't like a label they truly are unhappy about what the label stands for not the label itself but find themselves compelled to be identified by that label. They would love to be in a position where the label does not describe them. The beautiful lady has said she does not mind being called a hotwife, I am neutral about BBC ,if BBC is used in an abusive and disrespectful manner then I will take offence on the behaviour displayed by the person using the word but not the word BBC itself, so for the guys who find the word BBC offensive, what exactly is it about the word you find offensive,please kindly educate us. Some people find it offensive partly due to the fact that they don't fully understand its meaning or use. When the term BBW is used; in many cases it just means "Big Woman". It doesn't always infer beauty as the label suggests. In the same way BBC in certain contexts means "Black Man" and doesn't always infer cock size. 1) When you see "BBC Party" advertised, in many cases the hosts are not organising a party for big cocks. All it means is a party where black men are in attendance. 2) Some women/ couples have this on their profile : "BBC Only" I have chatted with some of them and they say they are not fussy about cock size, they are more concerned about how it is used. So when they say "BBC only" what it means is that they only meet Black Men. 3) Sometimes BBC is just a shorthand or abbreviation for Black man. For EG a lady wants to meet: Instead of saying "BBW looking for a black man" she finds it is easier to just say: "bbw4bbc" She's not saying she's looking for a big cock; she's just looking for a black man. Sometimes too much political correctness can cloud one's view of reality. Other times people do "word-for-word" interpretation of these labels instead of understanding their meaning and use in a wider context. If you want to do word-for-word interpretation, then you need to ask why "Queen of Spades" doesn't wear a crown and live in a palace." | |||
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