FabSwingers.com forum: Are you really a woman?

By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

Just to be clear, I'm far from new to fab and swinging in general. There's seems to be an existing, maybe growing problem on fab with guys pretending to be women. I wanted to gauge the general thoughts on what happened?

Having been approached by and started chatting to a lady tonight, the chat moved to kik for convenience. This person had no public pictures, their verifications were hidden and while we swapped face pics, and she very much liked mine, she didn't want to swap naked faceless pics although I offered mine. And also said she only made friends with people after meeting in person which was fine.

While I'm sure we all understand the greater need for discretion when somebody might be swinging while married, I started to wonder if something was amiss? If we can swap face pics then neck down naked pics after a long conversation to confirm attraction isn't that big a leap?

As her profile said she was and general conversation also was "straight to the point" I asked if we could arrange to speak on the phone or meet for coffee at some point to confirm everything was as it seemed. Unfortunately she said she is sick of blokes asking if she is a guy and that her face pics are really her. Obviously I inadvertently caused some offence (which I didn't want to do as we were getting along) but if I'm not the only one asking is this;-

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

So she swapped face pics but didn't want to send a naked body shot? Don't see the problem with that.

If I'm chatting to someone I'm happy to just see face pics as that's the bit I like best. In fact I'd think someone was a pic collecter if they asked for a naked photo. Maybe she did to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fact that she jumped to the assumption that you thought she was a man is a bit suspicious.

Surely it would have taken her 10 seconds to send a voice note or something via kik (if it's possible) to confirm she is who is she is(and if she didn't want to give her number)

Similarly I wouldn't arrange to meet someone without seeing body shots at least, face doesn't need to be shown on a naked pic. We all like to see what we are getting before hand don't we

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When you swapped face pics on kik, were the pics live?... you can tell because they have “camera” underneath them... problem solved without pestering for nudes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So she swapped face pics but didn't want to send a naked body shot? Don't see the problem with that.

If I'm chatting to someone I'm happy to just see face pics as that's the bit I like best. In fact I'd think someone was a pic collecter if they asked for a naked photo. Maybe she did to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just to be clear, I'm far from new to fab and swinging in general. There's seems to be an existing, maybe growing problem on fab with guys pretending to be women. I wanted to gauge the general thoughts on what happened?

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?"

I wouldn't send a naked face shot either!! Bloody hell!! Honestly OP??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?

I wouldn't send a naked face shot either!! Bloody hell!! Honestly OP??

He did say "faceless" hun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?

I wouldn't send a naked face shot either!! Bloody hell!! Honestly OP??

He did say "faceless" hun "

I wouldn't send them either haha

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

I did say neck down, as I said I'm not new to fab at all!

But I am new to kik so didn't know about the voice note facility. That's great to know, thanks!

To be clear, the original post wasn't a criticism of the person I was chatting to, more of a request for second opinions on whether this is " impersonation" is a bigger issue than I thought and whether the extreme offense taken was justified in the eyes of you guys when someone has actually said they're quite blunt themselves?

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

But you have pics on your profile so there wouldn't be any doubt from the start.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But you have pics on your profile so there wouldn't be any doubt from the start.....

Sorry for misreading your 'naked pic' request from this woman OP.

I personally wouldn't have been offended if you'd asked, but you wouldn't have gotten one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I tend to find the guys pretending to be women will drive conversation towards sex and pictures tend to be faceless and naked (and fake)

sounds to me like you were pestering someone for naked pictures? Although the quip from "her" about being continually mistaken for a man is a little disconcerting, it's not the first time I've heard it from a very genuine single woman. Sometimes things are just a little too good to be true? Am I right OP?

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

OP I would be very wary of chatting to anyone who doesn't have any public pictures.

It's not difficult to take a few pics on your phone and they don't have to be of your face.

This combined with the fact not that many women send the first message would have rung alarm bells for me.

There is a possibility that it was a genuine single lady but there it could have been a sad bloke who gets his kicks out of messing others around.

A good rule if thumb is to just trust your instincts. If something feels a bit off just walk away.

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

Not quite to be honest.

There aren't any pictures or verifications on the profile at all, everything is hidden.

If offering to send a picture of me naked (in addition to the ones on my profile) and asking once to be able to see an anonymous body pic to ensure there's some attraction is pestering then maybe we should all go on blind dates or only see face pics?

My point is that I'm more than happy to spend time to make sure I get along with someone before meeting, but as I say on my profile I will always want to SPEAK with someone or meet socially to check they are genuine early on. I always wonder if there actually is something wrong when someone gets offended at an innocuous, normal request?

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

"OP I would be very wary of chatting to anyone who doesn't have any public pictures.

It's not difficult to take a few pics on your phone and they don't have to be of your face.

This combined with the fact not that many women send the first message would have rung alarm bells for me.

There is a possibility that it was a genuine single lady but there it could have been a sad bloke who gets his kicks out of messing others around.

A good rule if thumb is to just trust your instincts. If something feels a bit off just walk away. "

I tend to agree with you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not quite to be honest.

There aren't any pictures or verifications on the profile at all, everything is hidden.

You wasn't just asking for a body pic though OP. You were asking for a naked body pic. You may feel very comfortable in your skin and love showing off your body. Perhaps this woman (if she was one) wasn't as comfortable baring all. Not everyone is. This may be fab, but not everyone is happy and content to flash everything to a random guy who they just started chatting to on kik.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"OP I would be very wary of chatting to anyone who doesn't have any public pictures.

It's not difficult to take a few pics on your phone and they don't have to be of your face.

This combined with the fact not that many women send the first message would have rung alarm bells for me.

There is a possibility that it was a genuine single lady but there it could have been a sad bloke who gets his kicks out of messing others around.

A good rule if thumb is to just trust your instincts. If something feels a bit off just walk away. "

What about discretion ? Some people are way more important than others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?"
you sure you're not a woman you're doing a lot of over thinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My experience is now very different to how I thought I would have used Fab when I joined.

I know who is real when I talk to them. If your on my kik or WhatsApp. My trust is already there.

Even on the forums there's the assuming think your real, and who you present yourself as.

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

"My experience is now very different to how I thought I would have used Fab when I joined.

I know who is real when I talk to them. If your on my kik or WhatsApp. My trust is already there.

Even on the forums there's the assuming think your real, and who you present yourself as.

I understand your post op, but if your unsure, don't go through with anything until you are. If you ask for a pic, and they don't deliver, one of you will have to compromise. And that's when you find out how much you really want to meet up. "
You also could always ask them to send a second picture, say holding a book or something like that, see if it looks like the first. We did this and guess UNLOS happened, I guess she wasn't who she said she was...

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Despite what is written on my profile, I still get accused of being a man because I won't send pictures.

In the past when I've been actively looking for one to one meets, I suspect I've been accused of being a man several times a week because I refused to send naked photos.

So yeah, I'd say assuming women are men because they won't send naked photos is pretty common.

(Wait, was that not the question?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not quite to be honest.

There aren't any pictures or verifications on the profile at all, everything is hidden.

From all the things in the OP I'm a man too. I don't do pics and certainly wouldn't send body pics. I won't talk on the phone and won't use kik etc.

*scratches bollocks*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's not the sort of pic i'd send either to someone i'd just started chatting with. I don't cam or chat on phone either as i'm shy and most guys start wanking and use you as a free sex service, without asking if you're up for that.

It doesn't necessarily mean it's a man. Just someone cautious.

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

I find that asking a guy I’m talking to to send a face pic holding some random object of my choice works well

If they are genuine they don’t have issue doing it

I am very sure if she really was a female she would be happy to do this as she would be well aware how many fakes there is

That’s certainly not asking too much and generally anyone that gives bullshit that they are too busy , fed up people thinking they are fake or unwilling to do a simple ‘peace of mind’ photo verification is simply because they are not who they say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not really the answer to your op but by the sounds of things you may have found a woman at the end of her tether!!!

I've done similar be honest. You may just be the straw that camels back. If I decide to take the chat to kik then I warn guys that I won't be doing lots of pic swap and dirty chat. I don't send nudes. Sometimes though you get guys who just want to top up their wank bank and persist in asking!

In answer to the op. Yes, plenty of fakes. Had a woman pretending to be a man in order to get around my filters to message me because I refused to meet her "play thing"!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We got caught out by this a few times when we first started with this site.

People pretending to be other couples or females. We initially wasted a lot of time before we learnt (how we think) to spot them.

We now feel we can do it quite easily, the biggest give away we find is how the conversation immediately turns to sex and how does she like it questions.

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By *utsidenakedMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Read all this waffle and yes many fake females on here, you can tell they don't dwell well, and as for discretion, if it was mandatory to show face pic with every message then most of you

, oooh I dont want anyone to know bollocks would be gone and time waisted eliminated, you know I'm right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

50% of the women on this site are bonified fake ...

Admin don't care that they use prostitute pictures, porn star pictures and the same stolen or screenshotted pictures when they rejoin twice a month...

It's time that proper screening and pre verification is part of the sign yo process and those who don't wish to be verified or inactive are culled

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"50% of the women on this site are bonified fake ...

Admin don't care that they use prostitute pictures, porn star pictures and the same stolen or screenshotted pictures when they rejoin twice a month...

It's time that proper screening and pre verification is part of the sign yo process and those who don't wish to be verified or inactive are culled"

I do agree with you about proper screening but as many other threads have discussed those prostitutes and those pornstars can be swingers so why should’nt they be able to put up pics ??

Yes they have big followings on other sites which makes them well known compared to us mere mortals but normally their pics are pretty hot anyway

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

If an alleged woman takes offence because you politely ask for some kind of evidence they are in fact female it is ninety per cent likely they are male. Of the remaining ten per cent taking offence at a reasonable request like that is a red flag anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" they have big followings on other sites which makes them well known compared to us mere mortals but normally their pics are pretty hot anyway

Did you of all people just say that LOL

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Can't see what all the fuss is about actually.

I have set criteria for meeting. If they're not met...onto the next one. My life won't be long enough to waste playing silly beggers with internet hook ups.

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

" they have big followings on other sites which makes them well known compared to us mere mortals but normally their pics are pretty hot anyway

Did you of all people just say that LOL"

Yes of course as I may have big followings on here a swinging site but nowhere else thanks

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"If an alleged woman takes offence because you politely ask for some kind of evidence they are in fact female it is ninety per cent likely they are male. Of the remaining ten per cent taking offence at a reasonable request like that is a red flag anyway. "

It gets extraordinarily tiring when yet another man accuses you of being 'fake' either because you won't send him naked photos or because you won't meet him.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

It gets extraordinarily tiring when yet another man accuses you of being 'fake' either because you won't send him naked photos or because you won't meet him."

I wouldn't consider either of those to be reasonable requests. Things like a quick phone call or a normal photo posed in a requested way are.

The thing is there are many many fake females and couples. Knowing this, I don't understand why anyone who is genuine would take umbrage if asked to confirm they are real.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

It gets extraordinarily tiring when yet another man accuses you of being 'fake' either because you won't send him naked photos or because you won't meet him.

I wouldn't consider either of those to be reasonable requests. Things like a quick phone call or a normal photo posed in a requested way are.

The thing is there are many many fake females and couples. Knowing this, I don't understand why anyone who is genuine would take umbrage if asked to confirm they are real. "

Sometimes you just get to the end of your tether. I have found the end of mine many times when looking for sex online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"50% of the women on this site are bonified fake ...

Admin don't care that they use prostitute pictures, porn star pictures and the same stolen or screenshotted pictures when they rejoin twice a month...

It's time that proper screening and pre verification is part of the sign yo process and those who don't wish to be verified or inactive are culled"

Culled

Death by deep throat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with this. I wouldn't do many the things asked in the OP but I would suggest something else to prove I'm female. I totally understand there's many men pretending to be women. In fact I usually offer some 'proof' first before they ask. Cos I'm nice like that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who gets accused of being fake more than once a day I am torn on my opinion of op's post. Firstly part of me feels I'm not a performing monkey and most certainly won't provide pictures when asked, holding this or waving etc. But I am happy to call someone (while blocking my own number) to confirm I am female.

We all know the site is full of fakes but if you are suspicious trust your instincts and move on. Life's too short to waste time

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By *ax1971Man
over a year ago

St helens

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

As others have said - they may just lack body confidence or think you’re a pic collector (I have loads of varied pics in public and friends so there’s no excuse to request private pics from me! I’ve no intention of taking a quick snapshot of my fanny over dinner and sending it out just to satisfy some bloke’s curiosity/hard-on!

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On the issue of sending a live face pic though - I’d probably refuse that too! I have so many face pics on my profile that it’s clear to anyone that I’m real - and I’m also pretty reticent about sending face pics devoid of makeup (as are many women I assume!)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

Happens all the time OP and that's why I won't do the kik thing and only swap numbers if planning a meet. Otherwise forget it. Some of the people are here love to troll so instead of being naïve be sensible. Oh and it's not only men pretending to be women. there are plenty women who pretend to be men to talk and collect pics of men (not sure why, don't get it) but it happens.

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

"OP I would be very wary of chatting to anyone who doesn't have any public pictures.

It's not difficult to take a few pics on your phone and they don't have to be of your face.

This combined with the fact not that many women send the first message would have rung alarm bells for me.

There is a possibility that it was a genuine single lady but there it could have been a sad bloke who gets his kicks out of messing others around.

A good rule if thumb is to just trust your instincts. If something feels a bit off just walk away.

What about discretion ? Some people are way more important than others

And many of them are not as important as they think they are!

If discretion is that imperative perhaps being on a swingers site isn't right for them. When they meet do they wear a paper bag over their head just to ensure discretion?

The site now offers the option to send a direct photo via PM. Sending in this way means there is no watermark from the site on the photo so it could have been obtained from anywhere. Sending a face picture in this way is far less risky than sending nudes via any form of messaging.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

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Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident!

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident! "

Same here - I love the idea that many guys seem to think the women of Fab are walking round the house in lingerie, makeup and heels - in a state of perpetual sexual readiness of course!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident!

Same here - I love the idea that many guys seem to think the women of Fab are walking round the house in lingerie, makeup and heels - in a state of perpetual sexual readiness of course!

And because we are on Fab we have no actual real world commitments. Not only are we constantly dressed provocatively just in the hope someone asks us for a fuck, but we are sat at home just waiting it. No work, social life or family commitments. Just up for it 24/7!

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident!

Same here - I love the idea that many guys seem to think the women of Fab are walking round the house in lingerie, makeup and heels - in a state of perpetual sexual readiness of course!

Are you not ? I’m currently clip clopping away in my stripper heels cleaning the bathroom ready to snap away should I need to

(Tongue firmly in cheek)

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

I thought there were a host of married men here pretending to be single

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmm even when we meet and I'm licking their pussy I'm still cautious that they're fake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always ask for a live pic....or one with a specific item in..... that’s easy, no discretion issues and will end contact with a fake instantly...

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By *itnkatCouple
over a year ago

in lincs between lincoln grantham boston

We always ask to see on cam in Fab just body not asking for face to see if people are really a cpl lady or guy don't have lots of friends or meets as very few appear for what ever reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Either a cam on fab , skype or a phone call . . Its really not difficult ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there's a few unfair comments being made towards the op.

Us women constantly say we won't reply to men's messages if there are no pictures on the profile and none attached onto the message.

Yet this woman messaged the OP in those same circumstances, he then asked for a (faceless) body picture of her (which isn't unreasonable at all) which she refused to send.

If the situation was reversed and it was a woman posting this she would be told he is a timewaster/fake etc, So why is op being bashed for the exact same thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I message a man first on here I have no issues attaching face pics to the message, the same way I would expect a man messaging me first to do so.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident!

Same here - I love the idea that many guys seem to think the women of Fab are walking round the house in lingerie, makeup and heels - in a state of perpetual sexual readiness of course!

Are you not ? I’m currently clip clopping away in my stripper heels cleaning the bathroom ready to snap away should I need to

(Tongue firmly in cheek)

Ok - I’ll get the heels out - but can I keep my fleecy minion pj’s on? (And I’m not joking here either!

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"I just checked. I’m a woman!

TBH I know exactly what you mean op - the great thing about the fact I tend to meet single males is that no bugger pretends to be a single Male!

If people are cagey about sending pics, though, there could be a whole manor of reasons - not just that they’re a bloke!

They could be fibbing about appearance in some other way - such as age or body type.

)

Like others have said though op - go with your gut feeling!

I agree, no chance would I send a picture of me without make up, and once I'm home from work I'm often in mum mode, casual clothhes, hair up and make up off...not at my most confident!

Same here - I love the idea that many guys seem to think the women of Fab are walking round the house in lingerie, makeup and heels - in a state of perpetual sexual readiness of course!

Are you not ? I’m currently clip clopping away in my stripper heels cleaning the bathroom ready to snap away should I need to

(Tongue firmly in cheek)

Ok - I’ll get the heels out - but can I keep my fleecy minion pj’s on? (And I’m not joking here either!

) x"

Now we all need to see a pic of a minion in heels lol

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Yes im really women.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

I feel like it says alot that a bloke has written to me on this thread, just because of my comment above, to accuse me of being fake...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel like it says alot that a bloke has written to me on this thread, just because of my comment above, to accuse me of being fake..."

Are you going to shag him to prove you're real?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Always ask for a live pic....or one with a specific item in..... that’s easy, no discretion issues and will end contact with a fake instantly..."

And if that was me You'd be classing me as fake. I don't have kik so can't do live photos and I'm far too busy to be taking photos with remotes or apples or whatever crap! I can go on Cam (at a time that suits me, not instantly, I won't go on in work or when my children are up and about) but I'd guess because I won't do as you ask you'd assume I was fake

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"I feel like it says alot that a bloke has written to me on this thread, just because of my comment above, to accuse me of being fake...

Are you going to shag him to prove you're real?"

I'm pretty sure that's always what they're looking for. The accusation of being fake is designed for nothing more than a retaliatory "no I'm not!" along with pictures or a meet.

Its shitty and manipulative.

If you think someone if fake just block them and get on with it...

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

According to one guy I’m fake because I was working when he wanted to meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's not the sort of pic i'd send either to someone i'd just started chatting with. I don't cam or chat on phone either as i'm shy and most guys start wanking and use you as a free sex service, without asking if you're up for that.

It doesn't necessarily mean it's a man. Just someone cautious."
so a woman starts wanking and uses you as a free sex service ??

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

Hey all

Thanks for the alternative opinions, as I said I'm not new to this and my default action if someone is being overly evasive is to move on eventually. However I'd rather give everyone a fair chance and that's why I'd ask the question again before just spontaneously cutting off contact and blocking someone who may be totally genuine and have their own understandable reasons.

And thank you for those who understood that the original post was simply gauging opinion from both genders, nothing else.

Just to be clear, my request to the other member wasn't "speak right now" or "send a picture holding today's newspaper" it was simply let's have a chat on the phone at some point over the next couple of days. As some have said if that's not doable, then the chances of finding the time to actually meet seems remote to me.

I'm not a picture collector, i have been on the site some time, I am relatively well verified (with them showing) and have pictures of me naked on my profile. As one poster has said, would you (male or female) arrange to meet someone in person without being able to determine if you are attracted to them?

Blokes are regularly criticised on here for being willing to shag anyone, it seems some who have posted want to criticise because I won't......?

Engaging, genuine people over quantity for me every time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find that asking a guy I’m talking to to send a face pic holding some random object of my choice works well

If they are genuine they don’t have issue doing it

I am very sure if she really was a female she would be happy to do this as she would be well aware how many fakes there is

There's no way I'd send a pic of me holding something random requested by the guy.

I wouldn't expect a guy to jump through hoops for me either

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

From my experience. If you think it’s s man it probably is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you really a woman?"

Nope, just checked in my pants, definitely not a woman

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

"I feel like it says alot that a bloke has written to me on this thread, just because of my comment above, to accuse me of being fake..."

We get this all the time as I (he) is 90% the forum poster. We just laugh it off, we’re getting what we want from here, crying fake seems to say more about them tbh. We must have a thick slick of oil on our backs because the negative comments just rolls off.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Make demands to me and the message is just deleted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel like it says alot that a bloke has written to me on this thread, just because of my comment above, to accuse me of being fake...

Are you going to shag him to prove you're real?

I'm pretty sure that's always what they're looking for. The accusation of being fake is designed for nothing more than a retaliatory "no I'm not!" along with pictures or a meet.

Its shitty and manipulative.

If you think someone if fake just block them and get on with it..."

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

'Rea'l women don't all believe in naked pics

If one does not like what one sees that is provided then don't start chatting.

Pic hunters, time wasters and NON GEUINE men as for naked pics.

Genuine and respectful guys meet you for a social to see if there's real attraction.

So OP, it's most likely she is a real woman, and now a really offended done too

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

Just bare in mind though. You are both showing some public pictures and you have your verifications showing too, you have done this consciously to make sure people can see you are genuine. To be blunt, had it been you I wouldn't have had any doubts you are real.

The person who approached me had neither (or their friends) showing and seemed unwilling to speak on the phone (at a convenient time, not right then) to confirm, hence wanting to try and make sure that more of my time wasn't being taken by someone who may not have been what was stated....

It's not about anyone being demanding, or about necessarily wanting or needing to see naked pictures but this person said they were "sick of being asked if they were a guy", so it's not just me that might have summised this from the behaviours seen. Hence the original question I asked, is men pretending to be a woman common problem, is it causing issue within our community online and shouldn't it be ok to ask someone to confirm who they are if you have doubts (irrespective of our gender)......?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

Yes it's ok to ask people to confirm. They may or may not want to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

OP. I've had MANY experiences with guys trolling as women online and I've heard countless excuses why the "woman" I'm speaking to is unable/unwilling to undertake a perfectly reasonable request in order to verify their identity. It's a massive issue and I'm not sure most women that use chat sites are able to empathise as it isn't ever likely to happen to them. Even "live" camera pics can be faked (just Google it for evidence) and people have bothered to post videos on YouTube to show people how to do it. There are a lot of (for want of a better word) cunts online who get some sort of a kick out of trying to catfish people.

IMHO, I think it's perfectly acceptable to ask one of the following if you feel you have a rapport with someone...

Chat on Skype via video or audio

Chat on Kik via video

Ask the other person to hold a piece of paper up with something specific written on it

I'd be more than happy to do the same if asked and in my experience those that vehemently protest and throw out the "I can't believe you don't believe me" lines generally have something to hide. They want you to be weak enough to backtrack and beg to be forgiven for questioning them which is all part of the power trip I guess they're trying to achieve.

And like I said I've experienced this on numerous occasions on numerous sites. I'm certainly not gullible, neither am I oversensitive etc. It's just a fact of the shite you have to put up with online unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?"
I know people will disagree with this as it will depend on your point of view but if you the OP feel it was a shame because you were getting along then why does it matter what sex she is? If you felt a genuine connection was there it was there because of the person not their gender and ultimately you did want to explore that more.

On the flip side the deceit cannot be condoned everyone should be up front with everyone from the start.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

IMO i think it is more common for men to accuse women of being fake, than for the women to actually be men posing as women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I wouldn't send a naked pic full stop

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I wouldn't send a naked pic full stop"

You must be a fake then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I wouldn't send a naked pic full stop

You must be a fake then

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

"Well I wouldn't send a naked pic full stop"

I think the majority of us women would be fake by that definition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't send a naked picture, I did get asked by a widowed bloke from elsewhere for one, I got rid of him straight away. I am definitely female, although I do so much man stuff I wonder sometimes XXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I am not, but I am doing my best when dressed!

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds

I would never send a naked photo of me or make any such photos public omg just the thought of it. People piercing over my long legs mm my pert behind, ogleling over my perfect natural blonde hair. Creeps me out. If people don’t believe I’m a bloke .well I’m shocked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

IMO i think it is more common for men to accuse women of being fake, than for the women to actually be men posing as women."

What fact is "IMO" based on? Having been trolled on almost a daily basis online I think I'd be in a better position to judge than you.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

IMO i think it is more common for men to accuse women of being fake, than for the women to actually be men posing as women.

What fact is "IMO" based on? Having been trolled on almost a daily basis online I think I'd be in a better position to judge than you. "

"In my opinion"

So it doesn't need facts.

In my experience, with both couples and singles profiles, it is more common for blokes to accuse women of being men, than it is for it to actually be men pretending to be women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone's is entitled to an opinion and that's the way it should be if I have asked for opinions.

IMO i think it is more common for men to accuse women of being fake, than for the women to actually be men posing as women.

What fact is "IMO" based on? Having been trolled on almost a daily basis online I think I'd be in a better position to judge than you.

"In my opinion"

So it doesn't need facts.

In my experience, with both couples and singles profiles, it is more common for blokes to accuse women of being men, than it is for it to actually be men pretending to be women."

Well I'll tell you what. Try creating a male profile for a day on one of numerous dating/chat sites. I'm sure it will be an eye opener to you as I think you'll be surprised just how rife trolling is. Whilst I'm sure there are some dickhead guys who will just randomly accuse genuine women of being male because they won't meet them, in my personal experience I'd say it's outnumbered by fake profiles/trolls.

Are people allowed to name other chat sites on here as I'd love to give a specific example as evidence?

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Are people allowed to name other chat sites on here as I'd love to give a specific example as evidence?"

I don't need to open profiles - I just asked my three partners about their experiences on Fab and elsewhere.

They all said that it's just not a regular problem for them. Perhaps every few weeks they get the impression that they're talking to a man pretending to be a woman, so they just block them.

*Shrug*

Perhaps it's something about *your* profiles that attracts men pretending to be women, and something about *my* profiles that attracts men calling me a man.

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By *ussylickerextreamMan
over a year ago

Banbury

There is more fake profiles on here than there is real ones men pretending to be women or couples fact admin should do more to get rid of them i say men but there not there just dickheads,thank fuck for all the sexy genuine ladys and couple's easy to spot the fakes if u actualy read profiles propaly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think I'll leave it there LL as we won't see eye to eye on this one. Congrats on your three FAB partners btw. For someone who isn't looking to meet this site has treated you very well!

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"I think I'll leave it there LL as we won't see eye to eye on this one. Congrats on your three FAB partners btw. For someone who isn't looking to meet this site has treated you very well!

I didn't meet any of them on this site. They all just happen to have accounts here.

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By *eady and Willing 9Man
over a year ago

Wherever the party is @

"The fact that she jumped to the assumption that you thought she was a man is a bit suspicious.

Surely it would have taken her 10 seconds to send a voice note or something via kik (if it's possible) to confirm she is who is she is(and if she didn't want to give her number)

Similarly I wouldn't arrange to meet someone without seeing body shots at least, face doesn't need to be shown on a naked pic. We all like to see what we are getting before hand don't we "

This. If she wouldn't send body picture then a call,voice note or even a live chat on kik would have surficed. Fact she didn't suggest another way to move it along closer to a meet is a tad suspicious. Especially bcz she said she liked what you look like.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are people allowed to name other chat sites on here as I'd love to give a specific example as evidence?

I don't need to open profiles - I just asked my three partners about their experiences on Fab and elsewhere.

They all said that it's just not a regular problem for them. Perhaps every few weeks they get the impression that they're talking to a man pretending to be a woman, so they just block them.

*Shrug*

Perhaps it's something about *your* profiles that attracts men pretending to be women, and something about *my* profiles that attracts men calling me a man."

I thought you was a man just by looking at your profile pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are people allowed to name other chat sites on here as I'd love to give a specific example as evidence?

I don't need to open profiles - I just asked my three partners about their experiences on Fab and elsewhere.

They all said that it's just not a regular problem for them. Perhaps every few weeks they get the impression that they're talking to a man pretending to be a woman, so they just block them.

*Shrug*

Perhaps it's something about *your* profiles that attracts men pretending to be women, and something about *my* profiles that attracts men calling me a man.

I thought you was a man just by looking at your profile pic

This could be fun...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If she's on kik and happily sending photos I always ask to chat to them via the video link button (obviously without faces for discretion) if they refuse after a week or so then my radar suggests it's a bloke. Or if the pics they send are not live (as in they say camera next to it) my suspicions head towards bloke.

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If she's on kik and happily sending photos I always ask to chat to them via the video link button (obviously without faces for discretion) if they refuse after a week or so then my radar suggests it's a bloke. Or if the pics they send are not live (as in they say camera next to it) my suspicions head towards bloke.

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

Does FAB allow you to upload pics onto the forum threads? I've got some belting convos/fake pics etc that I've taken screen prints of. Some trolls are so bad it's untrue and a straight forward "reverse image" Google search sorts them out and gets them blocked. Some are more sophisticated tho and really take great pride in their "craft"!

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By *orticiaWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

"I did say neck down, as I said I'm not new to fab at all!

But I am new to kik so didn't know about the voice note facility. That's great to know, thanks!

I think the fact that you’ve asked for a naked body pic & the response was to immediately assume it’s because you thought she was a guy is strange - that’s a big leap to get to that assumption & if she’s asked that a lot, she’s probably coming across as cagey rather than discrete.

IMO, if you’ve any doubts with a potential meet then you should walk away, regardless of the reasons!

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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago

Dublin and London

A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out..."

And if that person doesn't use Kik?

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out...

And if that person doesn't use Kik?"

Quick phone call.

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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago

Dublin and London

"A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out...

And if that person doesn't use Kik?

Quick phone call. "
Exactly. .modern day technology is a great thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out...

And if that person doesn't use Kik?

Quick phone call. Exactly. .modern day technology is a great thing..."

I've been in situations where I've offered to call them but I've still been accused of being fake because I don't use Kik.

Personally my preference is to arrange a time to go on Cam in a chat room if anyone has any doubts, it removes the need to give phone numbers and is quick and easy to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite amusingly I've just reverse imaged someone's pic that has posted on this thread very recently and it's quite interesting where that image can be found on the internet.

Now wonder if it's the poster using fake pics or someone has nicked it from them....hmmm.....

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By *ornylittlesubWoman
over a year ago

Grangemouth

"Quite amusingly I've just reverse imaged someone's pic that has posted on this thread very recently and it's quite interesting where that image can be found on the internet.

Now wonder if it's the poster using fake pics or someone has nicked it from them....hmmm.....

The plot thickens!

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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago

Dublin and London

"A quick two seconds "hello" cam on kik sorts everything out...

And if that person doesn't use Kik?

Quick phone call. Exactly. .modern day technology is a great thing...

I've been in situations where I've offered to call them but I've still been accused of being fake because I don't use Kik.

Personally my preference is to arrange a time to go on Cam in a chat room if anyone has any doubts, it removes the need to give phone numbers and is quick and easy to do"
Yes that also works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Btw I'd recommend NOT giving your phone number, Facebook, email etc out to anyone without having spoken to them on cam, Kik, Skype etc first. If someone using a swingers site/chat room/dating site has no means of communication except WhatsApp or email (in this day and age) it just isn't worth the risk IMO (and from experience).

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

If you're not sure, don't. Usually works for me. The few times I was in doubt (not gender related mind) and decided to meet anyway it didn't work out well at all x

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

No i am not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To avoid any element of doubt I am a man underneath all the glamour xx

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By *easing_twoCouple
over a year ago

Bristol, Thornbury

We are sick of guys asking for pics we will exchange face pics but guys in general still want more nudes. Pft

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over a year ago

"Quite amusingly I've just reverse imaged someone's pic that has posted on this thread very recently and it's quite interesting where that image can be found on the internet.

Now wonder if it's the poster using fake pics or someone has nicked it from them....hmmm.....

Don't get me started on this! There's currently no less than 3 profiles on here using my photos, all of which they've known about for more than a week but still have not been taken down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fakes should be removed I agree that includes every guy who has lied about the size of his willy.

There wouldn't be many left on here though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are sick of guys asking for pics we will exchange face pics but guys in general still want more nudes. Pft

TBF you have a LOT of pics on your profile that show plenty of flesh so just block them and move on! I'd rather see someone's face and chat to gauge if there's a connection there. If I need to see a bit of clunge I'll jump onto Chaturbate and have a quick Tommy Tank!

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over a year ago

"Quite amusingly I've just reverse imaged someone's pic that has posted on this thread very recently and it's quite interesting where that image can be found on the internet.

Now wonder if it's the poster using fake pics or someone has nicked it from them....hmmm.....

Don't get me started on this! There's currently no less than 3 profiles on here using my photos, all of which they've known about for more than a week but still have not been taken down

Not just on here it seems...

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By *inful xWoman
over a year ago

In a sleepy little village

"Fakes should be removed I agree that includes every guy who has lied about the size of his willy.

There wouldn't be many left on here though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Quite amusingly I've just reverse imaged someone's pic that has posted on this thread very recently and it's quite interesting where that image can be found on the internet.

Now wonder if it's the poster using fake pics or someone has nicked it from them....hmmm.....

Don't get me started on this! There's currently no less than 3 profiles on here using my photos, all of which they've known about for more than a week but still have not been taken down

Not just on here it seems... "

Ffs

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

This is total bollocks! So just because someone won't chat via kik or video they are fake. If you have that attitude you are more likely to fuck off more genuine females than catch fakes out. The obsession with fakes on here is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

He said it's a good way to spot fakes, not that everyone on here is fake and has to use Kik. You've overjumped the gun on that one and need to take a breath and digest what he's written before ranting.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP just out of interest how long ago did this person join and do they have any verifications?

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By *exyback12345 OP Man
over a year ago

manchester

In answer to the last question, they joined 3 months ago, have no verifications showing, only private pictures (3 of) and no friends showing.

Hey don't get me wrong guys, there's plenty more fish in the sea and I've lost no sleep over this. I was wondering if others had found it and issue in both directions, hence the discussion

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over a year ago

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

swingers clubs

Don't see need for naked pics to be sent.

All the bollocks about there needs to be an attraction. Surely you can get that from a face pic and some clothed body pics.

You sound like a pic hunter to me. Which is why we don't even chat on here. If you want to proof, get your asses to a club, chat and socialise there.

We've tried kik in the past, it's never led to a meet, just constant requests for pics and vids.

Honestly as soon as someone asks to go on kik, rightly or wrongly, we now assume they are just time wasting pic collectors.

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By *iversong321Woman
over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Kik is a great way to Wardle out the fellas as there's no real excuse for them not to send live pics/vids or chat of video.... without face contact.

The genetal assumotion on her is if u dont go on kik/chat by phone/send pics, then you are fake. Its bollocks. No deep breath needed thanks. Said very calmy and with the knowledge that I know exactly how this site works thanks.

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By *abmummy27Woman
over a year ago

up north

I was the last time i checked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A- a much more frequent problem than I thought?

B- a suspicion caused (to me and others) in this instance by somebody trying to be super discrete and therefore appearing to be hiding something?

I'm not sure either way and while I'm not sure we will end up talking again now, it's a shame as we were getting along.

Thoughts guys?"

Yes, it's a guy. The vast majority are.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Are people allowed to name other chat sites on here as I'd love to give a specific example as evidence?

I don't need to open profiles - I just asked my three partners about their experiences on Fab and elsewhere.

They all said that it's just not a regular problem for them. Perhaps every few weeks they get the impression that they're talking to a man pretending to be a woman, so they just block them.

*Shrug*

Perhaps it's something about *your* profiles that attracts men pretending to be women, and something about *my* profiles that attracts men calling me a man.

I thought you was a man just by looking at your profile pic

I'm going to assume that's a compliment considering the hard work it took me to get my body.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn’t sent naked pictures of me to anyone. First of you don’t know what else they would do with them I work with guys and see them showing pics off of naked women do no way would I send pics. personally if someone is that shallow to want to see a naked pic to decide if there attracted to me or not then I wouldn’t want to meet them anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn’t sent naked pictures of me to anyone. First of you don’t know what else they would do with them I work with guys and see them showing pics off of naked women do no way would I send pics. personally if someone is that shallow to want to see a naked pic to decide if there attracted to me or not then I wouldn’t want to meet them anyway. "

Totally agree with everything you have just said. I sometimes have face pics on my public pics, but I don't have any full face and body nudes on here.

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By *cceptedKinkMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Funny it's those who like to see body shots before meeting are always "shallow" to certain people.

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

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Funny it's those who like to see body shots before meeting are always "shallow" to certain people. "

Don't get me wrong, I'm as shallow as the next.

But you don't need to see naked pics to know if you're attracted to someone.

You can never be certain who's on the other end of an Internet connection unless you've met them.

Just because you've sealed a couple of messages it doesn't mean your entitled to naked pics of someone.

We're not going to be coerced into sending nude pics. If you want to know if all parties are attached, come meet us.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"We're not going to be coerced into sending nude pics. If you want to know if all parties are attached, come meet us. "

That's what I always used to say when I was looking for one to one meets over the past few years.

I used to tell them which coffee shop I'd be in for however many hours the next day and tell them to head along for a coffee to see if they like me in person.

Amazing the amount of blokes that just wanted naked pictures... and no coffee.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Refusing to send naked photos, headless or not would not have bothered me but the refusal to speak on the phone would have set the alarm bells ringing and at that point would have walked away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP if she were putting up road blocks to meeting then maybe she/he is not serious about meeting. Don’t really understand why a nude picture should be a standard requirement though. Don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You sound like a pic hunter to me. Which is why we don't even chat on here. If you want to proof, get your asses to a club, chat and socialise there.

We've tried kik in the past, it's never led to a meet, just constant requests for pics and vids.

Honestly as soon as someone asks to go on kik, rightly or wrongly, we now assume they are just time wasting pic collectors. "

Funnily enough not everyone on here wants to go to a club. That club dynamic just isn't my thing. For couples that might well work or for people wanting fun with multiple partners but this site has a lot of singles who are looking for 1:1 meets. Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

Going back to Kik, I'd rather speak to someone via video straight away fully clothed. If they're legit and there's an attraction then things can progress from there by swapping numbers/arranging a social etc. It's the safest way to interact without giving half of your personal details away. Same can be said of Skype.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

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over a year ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually."

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only show face pics in my friends list as have a important job and don't want any one finding out I'm on here I don't do kik or phone but I can assure you I'm all female

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop). "

About £30/£40 depending on the club. I'd say about 95% of the times I have sex in a club it's with a single man.

Most clubs have a main social area that is like a pub but with less pressure to drink, which I really like.

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over a year ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

About £30/£40 depending on the club. I'd say about 95% of the times I have sex in a club it's with a single man.

Most clubs have a main social area that is like a pub but with less pressure to drink, which I really like."

Are you a club owner by any chance?

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

About £30/£40 depending on the club. I'd say about 95% of the times I have sex in a club it's with a single man.

Most clubs have a main social area that is like a pub but with less pressure to drink, which I really like.

Are you a club owner by any chance?

No, although I'd really like to be if I had the passive income to support it. I'd like to create an alcohol free swing/fetish club that charged men and women equally.

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over a year ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop). "

My experience of clubs is that they can be a bit top-heavy on couples, therefore can be of less use for single men looking for single women. And that’s our impression from actively avoiding couples only nights. And of the single ladies I know who do like to attend clubs, or ladies I’ve chatted to at clubs, they are not necessarily looking for 1 to 1. No doubt there are clubs more aimed at singles though. Yes it is usually more expensive for men to attend a club. Either a man finds it worth it or he doesn’t.

Mrs

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

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Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop). "

There's loads of singles looking for singles at clubs. Many also have singles and couples nights.

At the very least, they are a place to meet and socialise in a setting with like minded people.

Most clubs have a social area that's just like being in a bar, you don't even have to leave that area. Just because you're at the club you don't need to have sex. And you don't even have to see it.

Our favourite club is ClubF. It has a bar area, it's £3 more for guys than couples, play areas are on separate floors to the social areas,and Fridays are open to singles and couples, and to be honest - Fridays are our favourite night and wouldn't be the same without the single crowd there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

Mrs"

Cheers Mrs CS.

That's kinda what I thought. Always nice to get a balanced opinion from a couple who attend as well.

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over a year ago

Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

There's loads of singles looking for singles at clubs. Many also have singles and couples nights.

At the very least, they are a place to meet and socialise in a setting with like minded people.

Most clubs have a social area that's just like being in a bar, you don't even have to leave that area. Just because you're at the club you don't need to have sex. And you don't even have to see it.

But I'm not particularly an exhibitionist tbh and I get the impression most who attend clubs are? Apologies if I'm way off track but I quite like privacy in my sex life and the sanctuary of my place, their place or a hotel. I'm also not bothered about having a social life with swingers. I've got mates already and not really after any more. Just a FWB or 2 who are boring as fuck like me.

I know a lot of people on here really embrace the swinging scene which is great and they have made some really good friends through it but that's not for me.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

I'd say most people that go to clubs have sex in private rooms with the doors shut. Most clubs have private rooms, I can only think of one off the top of my head that doesn't in this area.

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

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I'd say most people that go to clubs have sex in private rooms with the doors shut. Most clubs have private rooms, I can only think of one off the top of my head that doesn't in this area."

Agreed, you don't have to be an exhibitionist.

As already mentioned, you don't even have to see sex anywhere.

Clubs have private rooms where people can't see in and you can lock the doors.

Sex in the clubs doesn't have to be public at all. There's many people who won't play unless there's private rooms available.

They're a great place for people to feel safe doing what they're doing, and that's also why a lot of singles feel safe going.

There's no pressure (shouldn't be) as the staff look out for you, even as a couple, when we've been pressies, it's the staff who step in and ask people to back off.

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Forgive me if I'm wrong (as I've never been to a club) but clubs don't seem to be the best place for single guys to meet single women for straight 1:1.

I'd say it's proberbly the best place, actually.

Can't say I'm convinced but then again we've not seen eye to eye on this thread already.

Besides, don't guys get charged a stupid amount as a single to go to a club? I'd rather chat to a woman in an environment I feel comfortable with (ie a pub or coffee shop).

There's loads of singles looking for singles at clubs. Many also have singles and couples nights.

At the very least, they are a place to meet and socialise in a setting with like minded people.

Most clubs have a social area that's just like being in a bar, you don't even have to leave that area. Just because you're at the club you don't need to have sex. And you don't even have to see it.

I know a lot of people on here really embrace the swinging scene which is great and they have made some really good friends through it but that's not for me. "

When I used to go with my play partner, it was always behind a locked windowless room. You don't have to play publicly lovely

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