FabSwingers.com forum: When asked if your tested

By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

Does it put people off when you ask if they are StI clean and get tested regularly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

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Why is that ?

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By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

Some people spoken too on here instant block or no responce even though messaging fine then ask that question and becomes an issue ! Id rather be up front and safe than not.

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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

I always ask and also get asked. Not bothered if I am asked and never been told off for asking.

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By *ucy LewdWoman
over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Fab can also be the 'flagship' to eating the crayons.

Don't eat the crayons mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, and frankly I prefer it when people do, shows they're thinking about their health. We do tend to ask if it's not mentioned in the course of discussion. Only once has a guy thrown a strop having taken offence.

PP what about people who go to clubs? Why are they any different?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Fab can also be the 'flagship' to eating the crayons.

Don't eat the crayons mate."

Lol what?

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

swingers clubs

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Failing to see a correlation there mate.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Im tested all the time and won't go bare back at all ..

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

It wouldn't put me off at all.

The opposite.

I take my health very seriously & expect the same in anyone I was considering meeting with

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By *K430Man
over a year ago

Tipperary

Never go bareback and tested and would have no problem at all with someone asking, shows cop on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have no problem with anyone asking , I have the one fb and we get tested all the time as we both see other women too x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother me at all and if I have any slip ups I always have the conversation with the other person as well, never had anyone take it offensive so far, thank goodness

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By *wisted2000Woman
over a year ago

under my rock cleethorpes

I never bb but I’ve never once been asked when my last test was, I wouldn’t b unhappy to be asked though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm tested and STI free.

Do you believe me? Anyone can say it but who can prove it?

Who waits the two weeks between testing and results before having sex?

I know I'm tested and STI free but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me and I wouldn't take someone's word for it!

This place is full of liars who will say anything to get in your pants.

I rekon that 50/60% of people on this site have never set foot in a sexual health clinic in their lives!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"I'm tested and STI free.

Do you believe me? Anyone can say it but who can prove it?

Who waits the two weeks between testing and results before having sex?

I know I'm tested and STI free but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me and I wouldn't take someone's word for it!

This place is full of liars who will say anything to get in your pants.

I rekon that 50/60% of people on this site have never set foot in a sexual health clinic in their lives! "

Took the words out of my mouth. I daresay if I was ever to ask that question and the reply was something along the lines of 'nah, not bothered about testing' I'd rethink a meet but the truth is, no news is good news when it comes to results and nobody can claim ever to be STI free.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

What exactly are you referring to here? People that go to clubs are just the same as people that don't... just we spend money and time socialising and making friends first!

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By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

But just to ask the question gives them food for thought! Surely its a step in the right direction and of course to practice safer sex is better .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

What exactly are you referring to here? People that go to clubs are just the same as people that don't... just we spend money and time socialising and making friends first!"

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

What exactly are you referring to here? People that go to clubs are just the same as people that don't... just we spend money and time socialising and making friends first!"

Exactly this !! Well said

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By *lackbird1000Woman
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

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what you mean by that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do get tested as I do oral sex without protection but I don't with sex. It's peace of mind for me and my hubby.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

OP it is your health and well being and no amount of naughty fun is worth a serious risk to your health... Ask away and if they take offence then you probably better off not meeting them anyway!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It wouldn't bother us if we were asked. It would also indicate to us that the person doing the asking were interested in looking after their sexual health too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

What exactly are you referring to here? People that go to clubs are just the same as people that don't... just we spend money and time socialising and making friends first!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although I am for testing and don't mind being asked or asking the question I always look at it like an MOT , only good on the day the test actually taken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just carry a portable testing kit with me.... it's a simple process, I just get it out and say "pop this in your mouth for 10 minutes" .....

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By *irginieWoman
over a year ago

Near Marlborough

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Oh do please get started..... I can hardly contain myself waiting for this pearl of wisdom

V x

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Oh do please get started..... I can hardly contain myself waiting for this pearl of wisdom

V x "

You and me both

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Although I am for testing and don't mind being asked or asking the question I always look at it like an MOT , only good on the day the test actually taken. "

Not necessarily. If on the day of the test im positive for chlamydia, 2 weeks later after the course of tablets, id be ok to bareback the sxxt outta ya!

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By *not69Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Why? I go to clubs, I got tested 4 weeks ago. Your more likely to meet untested people in town on a Saturday night than you are in a swinger's club

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Although I am for testing and don't mind being asked or asking the question I always look at it like an MOT , only good on the day the test actually taken.

Not necessarily. If on the day of the test im positive for chlamydia, 2 weeks later after the course of tablets, id be ok to bareback the sxxt outta ya!

True but conversely if you are clear on the day of the test and then bareback some one and catch an STI, the clear test result would be worthless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I just carry a portable testing kit with me.... it's a simple process, I just get it out and say "pop this in your mouth for 10 minutes" ....."

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Although I am for testing and don't mind being asked or asking the question I always look at it like an MOT , only good on the day the test actually taken.

Not necessarily. If on the day of the test im positive for chlamydia, 2 weeks later after the course of tablets, id be ok to bareback the sxxt outta ya!

True but conversely if you are clear on the day of the test and then bareback some one and catch an STI, the clear test result would be worthless

I don't think it counts on the same day. You get a grace period.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

(Some people think this...)

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

But you can only catch each sti once like measles etc. And if you bareback someone who's already had one then you catch the immunity through your dick, or vagjayjay. Fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

But you can only catch each sti once like measles etc. And if you bareback someone who's already had one then you catch the immunity through your dick, or vagjayjay. Fact.

Every day is a school day. Thanks. Bareback sex immunisation.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

But you can only catch each sti once like measles etc. And if you bareback someone who's already had one then you catch the immunity through your dick, or vagjayjay. Fact.

Every day is a school day. Thanks. Bareback sex immunisation.

It's nature. Dont fight nature with unnatural sex.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Although I am for testing and don't mind being asked or asking the question I always look at it like an MOT , only good on the day the test actually taken. "

Well, technically it's worse than that. Hiv can take 12 weeks to show up, and in that time in can be passed on, but test clear.

Play safe and get tested for your own piece of mind long term.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Asking puts some people off and frankly thats why we ask. The people it puts off are the kind of idiots you don't want to touch with a 60 foot pole. What possible reasons are there to get offended by being asked:

- you have something

- you're too stupid to know that condoms don't stop HPV or Herpes

- you think strangers should instantly trust one another (which is how you get something)

- you're too stupid to understand that filters don't have to be perfect in order to be useful

- you have a giant ego

Nope, can't think of any valid reasons to resent the question.

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By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

"Asking puts some people off and frankly thats why we ask. The people it puts off are the kind of idiots you don't want to touch with a 60 foot pole. What possible reasons are there to get offended by being asked:

- you have something

- you're too stupid to know that condoms don't stop HPV or Herpes

- you think strangers should instantly trust one another (which is how you get something)

- you're too stupid to understand that filters don't have to be perfect in order to be useful

- you have a giant ego

Nope, can't think of any valid reasons to resent the question."

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

- you have something

- you're too stupid to know that condoms don't stop HPV or Herpes

- you think strangers should instantly trust one another (which is how you get something)

- you're too stupid to understand that filters don't have to be perfect in order to be useful

- you have a giant ego

Nope, can't think of any valid reasons to resent the question.

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By *ngeluk69Woman
over a year ago

Near enough

- you have something

- you're too stupid to know that condoms don't stop HPV or Herpes

- you think strangers should instantly trust one another (which is how you get something)

- you're too stupid to understand that filters don't have to be perfect in order to be useful

- you have a giant ego

Nope, can't think of any valid reasons to resent the question."

HEAR HEAR!!!!!

Don’t forget that sometimes condoms break, accidents happen, some people who preach that they don’t ever BB really do, sometimes fluids are exchanged without penetration.... all risks.

It still amazes me that grown adults are so flippant in their attitude to their own sexual health. I would rather be asked when I was last tested. Nowt to be embarrassed about!

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By *reygorCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

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what people that use clubs are far more aware of game the playing .and take lots of care .if you pick up a striaght girl at pub night club ect .more chance .what you doing on a swingers site .just have a wank in your bedroom .we test regular at private clinic .and if any one not believe us give us your card details cos you can pay for them .you would not like the bill for sure .not a rant just a fact.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

"Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

But you can only catch each sti once like measles etc. And if you bareback someone who's already had one then you catch the immunity through your dick, or vagjayjay. Fact.

Oh God

Why do you do this? You know people will believe you

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Yes it puts me off. If they are worried about sti's it means they must have had some. I use condoms so don't ever need to get tested.

But you can only catch each sti once like measles etc. And if you bareback someone who's already had one then you catch the immunity through your dick, or vagjayjay. Fact.

Oh God

Why do you do this? You know people will believe you

He's doing his bit for evolution

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

I never bother asking as I know the answer will be I got tested a couple of weeks back, all clear. There is no way to tell if they being truthful or not so asking the question is pretty pointless.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I never bother asking as I know the answer will be I got tested a couple of weeks back, all clear. There is no way to tell if they being truthful or not so asking the question is pretty pointless."

I refer the honourable lady to bullet point 4.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve found people more safe on here than in town. As I always ask. If you’re thinking of having sex I don’t see a problem asking first. I quite like it if they do. An the safe sex option on here, is helpful.

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By *loswingersCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

"I never bother asking as I know the answer will be I got tested a couple of weeks back, all clear. There is no way to tell if they being truthful or not so asking the question is pretty pointless."

Exactly ....

A pointless exercise and asking is a red light to us as it's a bit like the white knights who come on the forums to try and look good .

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I never bother asking as I know the answer will be I got tested a couple of weeks back, all clear. There is no way to tell if they being truthful or not so asking the question is pretty pointless.

Exactly ....

A pointless exercise and asking is a red light to us as it's a bit like the white knights who come on the forums to try and look good ."

It would be pointless if:

- everybody answered the question

- everybody who answered was prepared to lie

- you had no way of knowing who was lying

- you'd never thought of a follow up question like "great can you share your results"

The simple fact is that many people refuse to answer, many confess they don't get tested and those that try to lie often block you when you ask something simple like "great are your results text or voicemail" (our local clinic only gives one).

So no, not pointless at all. Not perfect, not pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t think it’s a pointless question. We had all sorts of answers ranging from ‘never’ to ‘4 years ago’ to ‘every 3 months without fail’. It’s only a discussion that we’ve ever had with regulars though. Us personally we aim to get tested about twice a year, and we’d be very happy to state that if asked. Sometimes it’s a good reminder that it’s time for another checkup.

Mrs

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I don’t think it’s a pointless question. We had all sorts of answers ranging from ‘never’ to ‘4 years ago’ to ‘every 3 months without fail’. It’s only a discussion that we’ve ever had with regulars though. Us personally we aim to get tested about twice a year, and we’d be very happy to state that if asked. Sometimes it’s a good reminder that it’s time for another checkup.

Mrs"

My personal favourite was "we don't need to get tested because we only play with other couples". And block.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was going to do the single man comment that we never get to meet

But then I got a rare blood group and I do go to swinging clubs and sexually active and when I donate I get tested few weeks before by the same clinic and get a SMS message from same number so always got a history of my checks which anyone can check

I still get nervous waiting for the message that I'm clear like I no many of us do male or female

So it's important everyone should be responsible and for the likes of me I'm very careful I'm not the stereotype male balls for brains

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like to ask because the answers or reactions can reveal a lot about a person. If someone gets offended by a simple question then they aren't someone I am interested in fucking anyway. Likewise, if the answer is "Never" or "I know I'm clean because I have never had any symptoms" I will always politely decline the offer to play with that person!

Having said that, the answer is somewhat irrelevant in the sense that even if someone told me that they had been recently tested, I still would never fuck a stranger bareback.

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By *inglehotchickWoman
over a year ago

blackpool

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

I’ve read the whole of this thread looking for the answer to this bollocks statement. It appears the poster is unable to answer. Either that or he didnt get lucky at a club and it’s sour grapes???

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By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

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By *parks133 OP Man
over a year ago

luton

"I was going to do the single man comment that we never get to meet

I still get nervous waiting for the message that I'm clear like I no many of us do male or female

So it's important everyone should be responsible and for the likes of me I'm very careful I'm not the stereotype male balls for brains"

Maybe a positive way.to donate blood for all more so for those who feel un easy visiting a gum clinic!

Just thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. I show them the text from the clinic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Maybe he went to a club and caught something.

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"no news is good news when it comes to results and nobody can claim ever to be STI free."

Bizarre statement...

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By *he incognito twoCouple
over a year ago

near you

"I'm tested and STI free.

Do you believe me? Anyone can say it but who can prove it?

Who waits the two weeks between testing and results before having sex?

I know I'm tested and STI free but I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me and I wouldn't take someone's word for it!

This place is full of liars who will say anything to get in your pants.

I rekon that 50/60% of people on this site have never set foot in a sexual health clinic in their lives!

the only thing is i would say we always get a text from the clinic saying what our results are WE CAN SHOW THIS TO whoever ask....but then again no one will show you the text saying you are positive with an STI

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......"

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

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By *inglehotchickWoman
over a year ago

blackpool

"Good question as fab can be the flagship to STI and don’t get me started about people who go to clubs

Maybe he went to a club and caught something. "

If this is the case then he should of played safe. Can’t generalise all people who go to clubs for this scenario

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No. I show them the text from the clinic. "

My docs only text if there's a need for treatment.

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By *he incognito twoCouple
over a year ago

near you

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?"

well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is almost no point asking as you should assume everyone is lying to you - unless you are going to demand paperwork. Even then the 'all clear' is only as good as the date.

I'd never be annoyed with a person asking if I 'knew my status' as responsible adults should know. However, I wouldn't expect them to take me at my word - nor would I believe them!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

well said"

It won't stop people droning on with the same opinion though. The thing is that they don't ask so they don't see the ridiculous answers you get back. It's a feedback loop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People do indeed lie..... I have fallen for this and stupidly became infected with HIV, my own fault for taking someones word for it..... the short answer is assume anyone you have bareback with is positive and take the appropriate precautions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

well said

It won't stop people droning on with the same opinion though. The thing is that they don't ask so they don't see the ridiculous answers you get back. It's a feedback loop. "

What answer would make you fuck them?

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

Wouldn't put me off, unless I said yes and they said no

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

well said

It won't stop people droning on with the same opinion though. The thing is that they don't ask so they don't see the ridiculous answers you get back. It's a feedback loop.

What answer would make you fuck them?"

Yes we get tested, yes we can show you our last results. We're still using condoms anyway. In our experience that will filter around 70% of couples here.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"People do indeed lie..... I have fallen for this and stupidly became infected with HIV, my own fault for taking someones word for it..... the short answer is assume anyone you have bareback with is positive and take the appropriate precautions"

How about ask and take precautions?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

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It's good to know but should not need to be said - and shouldn't be relied upon

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over a year ago

How about ask and take precautions?"

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!

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over a year ago

"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

well said

It won't stop people droning on with the same opinion though. The thing is that they don't ask so they don't see the ridiculous answers you get back. It's a feedback loop.

What answer would make you fuck them?

Yes we get tested, yes we can show you our last results. We're still using condoms anyway. In our experience that will filter around 70% of couples here."

Good filter.

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By *he incognito twoCouple
over a year ago

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"It's a stupid question. People lie. Not like they're going to admit to doing a bareback gangbang every night is it.

So people ask the question and they say yeah I got the all clear last week. How would you fuck differently? I wonder......

Yup and condoms break / fall off. Do you think imperfect is the same as pointless?

well said

It won't stop people droning on with the same opinion though. The thing is that they don't ask so they don't see the ridiculous answers you get back. It's a feedback loop.

What answer would make you fuck them?

Yes we get tested, yes we can show you our last results. We're still using condoms anyway. In our experience that will filter around 70% of couples here.

Good filter.

Good people are talking about it ...i think this post has raised the Profile and awareness

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

How about ask and take precautions?

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!"

As an aside, what that guy did to you is illegal. Did you ever go to the police?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about ask and take precautions?

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!

As an aside, what that guy did to you is illegal. Did you ever go to the police?"

Yes it is illegal to knowingly pass on the virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How about ask and take precautions?

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!

As an aside, what that guy did to you is illegal. Did you ever go to the police?"

Who said it was a guy? Assumptions abound!....The person involved was obviously unaware of their infection which must have been fairly recent as they had tested negative a few months earlier.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

How about ask and take precautions?

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!

As an aside, what that guy did to you is illegal. Did you ever go to the police?

Who said it was a guy? Assumptions abound!....The person involved was obviously unaware of their infection which must have been fairly recent as they had tested negative a few months earlier."

Statistically it is far more likely to be a guy because of the probability of transmission, so yes an assumption but not an unreasonable one. Hats off to you for being upfront about it.

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over a year ago

How about ask and take precautions?

Indeed, ask AND take precautions.... I'm not the first and sure won't be the last!!

As an aside, what that guy did to you is illegal. Did you ever go to the police?

Who said it was a guy? Assumptions abound!....The person involved was obviously unaware of their infection which must have been fairly recent as they had tested negative a few months earlier.

Statistically it is far more likely to be a guy because of the probability of transmission, so yes an assumption but not an unreasonable one. Hats off to you for being upfront about it. "

I agree.... statistically the risk of transmission is higher, but a person recently infected has a very high viral load and therefore highly infectious.... HIV doesn't discriminate and can infect regardless of sexual orientation, colour or creed

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