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Ludicrously attractive/convincing TS/V's

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

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By *riendly older leggy wifeCouple
over a year ago

london

Agree with you, some great ones on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some bloody wretched ones too!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some bloody wretched ones too!"
haha

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By *exybecs777TV/TS
over a year ago

Weymouth

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder x

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By *atindollTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder x"

Agreed

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By *inakiss64Woman
over a year ago

Near St Albans


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good. "
There are some very convincing chicks with dicks on here lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

Just one??

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

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By *tef1972TV/TS
over a year ago

blackburn

There are some that you think WOW.

Then there’s the bloody good effort my friend keep up the good work

Then there’s oh my god mate get a grip do you have a mirror.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazing what them surgeons can do.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

Go on name her??

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

There are plenty of gorgeous TVs and trans women on here, those full timers have also spent years on hrt and having surgeries so of course they're going to look amazing

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By *orn KinkyTV/TS
over a year ago

cardiff


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

It’s ok, you can say my name if you like, I don’t mind. X

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By *inakiss64Woman
over a year ago

Near St Albans

A hairy man that put's a wig on and a skirt doesn't count as convincing lol

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By *art123Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good. "

I agree and know exactly who you mean!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a bisexual man - i totally agree with you and i have been with a few in my time and some post op gals are mind blowing

J x

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

I've clicked on a few pics before thinking them to be really bad unconvincing trannies..only to find out there actually real women..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"As a bisexual man - i totally agree with you and i have been with a few in my time and some post op gals are mind blowing

J x "

You don't have to be bi to do that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a bisexual man - i totally agree with you and i have been with a few in my time and some post op gals are mind blowing

J x

You don't have to be bi to do that. "

Very true in deed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've clicked on a few pics before thinking them to be really bad unconvincing trannies..only to find out there actually real women.. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a few who I’d find it hard to say no too, okay I wouldn’t say no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush!

Go on name her??"

Naming and shaming isnt allowed,well under normal circumstances that is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And there's those that u think your deluded

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d love to meet one!!

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"And there's those that u think your deluded "

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefit

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush!

Go on name her??

Naming and shaming isnt allowed,well under normal circumstances that is "

Yeah don't, it's not worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d love to meet one massive turn on.She Must dress nice stockings heels etc.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I've clicked on a few pics before thinking them to be really bad unconvincing trannies..only to find out there actually real women.. "

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I’d love to meet one massive turn on.She Must dress nice stockings heels etc."

She "must?"...yeah?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are a couple I'd love to meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good. "

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

Love to be your crush x

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them "

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"A hairy man that put's a wig on and a skirt doesn't count as convincing lol"

I've never understood this approach. It doesn't seem to make sense that someone is enamored with femeninity enough to want to present this appearance to the world, and can't even get the basics down. I'm sure I'm missing something about these individuals drives and passions, but it really confuses me.

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By *isser36Man
over a year ago

fylde Coast

Forgive me if am wrong but aren't tv's and ts's two very different things?? Ts being a woman trapped in a man's body and Tv being a man that enjoys dressing and acting like a woman... Or do they blur and it's never that black and white? But to return to the op yes there are some very attractive ts's.... Yet to see a convincing TV!

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

There is one on here that I have to say, I couldn’t tell.

Unreal and gobsmacked

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Forgive me if am wrong but aren't tv's and ts's two very different things?? Ts being a woman trapped in a man's body and Tv being a man that enjoys dressing and acting like a woman... Or do they blur and it's never that black and white? But to return to the op yes there are some very attractive ts's.... Yet to see a convincing TV! "
its not quite so black and white as you put it yes it does blur between ts and tv ,

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual"."

You really can't help yourself can you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep there are some stunning trans guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Forgive me if am wrong but aren't tv's and ts's two very different things?? Ts being a woman trapped in a man's body and Tv being a man that enjoys dressing and acting like a woman... Or do they blur and it's never that black and white? But to return to the op yes there are some very attractive ts's.... Yet to see a convincing TV! "

It's why I mentioned both. I'm not sure enough on the specifics, and I'd rather reference both than exclude, or offend, one party.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

You really can't help yourself can you x"

I can't help having an opinion. Its the human condition.

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By *ara MTV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdare

I’m only part time but, it’s a huge part of my personal identity.

I do make an effort and even had makeup lessons to improve my look.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m only part time but, it’s a huge part of my personal identity.

I do make an effort and even had makeup lessons to improve my look."

I love that grey ombre wig, suits you.

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By *ara MTV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdare


"I’m only part time but, it’s a huge part of my personal identity.

I do make an effort and even had makeup lessons to improve my look.

I love that grey ombre wig, suits you. "

Thank you, have a weakness for ombré at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m only part time but, it’s a huge part of my personal identity.

I do make an effort and even had makeup lessons to improve my look.

I love that grey ombre wig, suits you.

Thank you, have a weakness for ombré at the moment "

Sins right it does

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By *ilent.KnightMan
over a year ago

Swindon


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair. "
and she’s local. but not looking for guys

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By *ophieLouiseTV/TS
over a year ago

yorks

Excellent thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual"."

That's not true at all, there are some very attractive TS girls on here who pass 100%!!

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

That's not true at all, there are some very attractive TS girls on here who pass 100%!! "

I agree thier are some amazing TS and TV on here and I get so jealous of them. I try try that’s all I can do. Great thread OP

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

We have noticed darling.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Forgive me if am wrong but aren't tv's and ts's two very different things?? Ts being a woman trapped in a man's body and Tv being a man that enjoys dressing and acting like a woman... Or do they blur and it's never that black and white? But to return to the op yes there are some very attractive ts's.... Yet to see a convincing TV! "
Maybe you need glasses

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

That's not true at all, there are some very attractive TS girls on here who pass 100%!! "

There's always some exceptions to the rule. But in the main most dress up like other transsexuals, or a sexualized image of what they think women dress like. In the main most women dress quite conservatively. Not mini skirts and leopard skin etc. I guess it's a kind of unconscious uniform.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefit"
be happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying"

You can make your point without being nasty.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying"
well I don't stand out .I go all over day and night .I go shopping ,cinema ,theatre ,restaurants .I look ,walk ,talk act the part .I'm not deluded ...I'm good .I never get funny looks at all

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By *exybecs777TV/TS
over a year ago

Weymouth

I prefer the everyday look myself, and thaare what I aim for. Each to their own x

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"I prefer the everyday look myself, and thaare what I aim for. Each to their own x"

exactly. If you believe you look good then that's probably good enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

You can make your point without being nasty. "
no malice meant it's just as in all walks of life be it vanilla trans or whatever people fool themselves into thinking they look better than they are or what they wear flatters them is all I'm saying and I'm a realist I say what I see ,if your happy doing what u do it's all good but sometimes you need a reality check me included

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying"

Ive seen women who look like Les Dawson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

Ive seen women who look like Les Dawson "
lol me too

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

You can make your point without being nasty. no malice meant it's just as in all walks of life be it vanilla trans or whatever people fool themselves into thinking they look better than they are or what they wear flatters them is all I'm saying and I'm a realist I say what I see ,if your happy doing what u do it's all good but sometimes you need a reality check me included "

Why would anyone need a reality check. I’ve been living my double life for close on 30 odd years and I am happy with it. And I’m married and my wife knows and accepts this as well and she actively encourages me. We go out when I’m dressed to clubs etc and have never encountered any negative comments or nasty ness Some of the nasty comments come from this site

We are all on here for a number of reasons. Some are looking to meet and have sex. Some like to come on and share thier experiences and meet other like minded people. Everyone is entitled to thier views a I encourage them but when someone says people of certain persuasions should get for example a reality check it makes me wonder as to why. You have your lifestyle and I have mine. I may not look the best but it’s not how I look it’s about how I feel about myself x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

You can make your point without being nasty. no malice meant it's just as in all walks of life be it vanilla trans or whatever people fool themselves into thinking they look better than they are or what they wear flatters them is all I'm saying and I'm a realist I say what I see ,if your happy doing what u do it's all good but sometimes you need a reality check me included

Why would anyone need a reality check. I’ve been living my double life for close on 30 odd years and I am happy with it. And I’m married and my wife knows and accepts this as well and she actively encourages me. We go out when I’m dressed to clubs etc and have never encountered any negative comments or nasty ness Some of the nasty comments come from this site

We are all on here for a number of reasons. Some are looking to meet and have sex. Some like to come on and share thier experiences and meet other like minded people. Everyone is entitled to thier views a I encourage them but when someone says people of certain persuasions should get for example a reality check it makes me wonder as to why. You have your lifestyle and I have mine. I may not look the best but it’s not how I look it’s about how I feel about myself x"
great for you and your not deluded enough to think you can pass as a convincing sexy lady but I'm on about the guy with a beard and bad wig in a frock who states on their profile very convincing TV and clearly they're not just to clarify my deluded and reality comments lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

Ive seen women who look like Les Dawson "
ha me too , some tgirls are stunning no doubt about it

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By *astspeedTV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

Errrrrrr what about me?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And there's those that u think your deluded

There's nothing deluded about doing something that makes you happy. Most of us don't dress for other people's benefitbe happy cool but don't try and convince the world you can pass for a woman with a face like Les Dawson that's what I call deluded lol their are some u do need to take a second glance to see heir men but most stand out is all I'm saying

Ive seen women who look like Les Dawson ha me too , some tgirls are stunning no doubt about it "
we have met so I know what u look like lol

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair. "

Indeed

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair. and she’s local. but not looking for guys "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair. "

That's her

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are quite a few on here that are gorgeous,not just in looks but the most amazing personality and the best company ever!

Beats a guy anytime! Sorry chaps!!

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her "

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxx"

Off to go be nosy now, brb

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxx

Off to go be nosy now, brb "

I just was. Love the boots can I have them lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxx"
haha I'm far from stunning sweets

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By *uciyassMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxxhaha I'm far from stunning sweets "

You are in my eyes hun xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her "

Yeah she's hot alright ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxxhaha I'm far from stunning sweets

You are in my eyes hun xxx"
thank you sweet xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've seen a few recently. Icklemoo I think her name is, is bloody gorgeous, especially with the red hair.

That's her

Don’t forget Leah. She’s stunning xxxxxx

Off to go be nosy now, brb

I just was. Love the boots can I have them lol"

Suprisingly inexpensive on ebay

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

You look pretty hot to me Leah.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some are beautiful and I will be the first to hold my hands up and say they are even more convincing at being a woman than I am! I am jealous of them!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You look pretty hot to me Leah....."
thank you x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Some are beautiful and I will be the first to hold my hands up and say they are even more convincing at being a woman than I am! I am jealous of them! "

Well I wouldn't say better as from what we can see here you're definitely all woman, but there are a fair few who make a lot of girls feel unnatractive be comparison, and I'm gobsmacked when I see some of these model-esque types.

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By *eviantdeliteWoman
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"Some are beautiful and I will be the first to hold my hands up and say they are even more convincing at being a woman than I am! I am jealous of them! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree there are some stunning tv/s on this site, and yes you have to admire the effort they put in waxing and choosing their clothes makeup and striking some very feminine poses.

As for shall we say those that don't put in so much effort in, as long as they are enjoying themselves I say thats what its all about.

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Have a look at Miss Classy....she is stunning x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

That's not true at all, there are some very attractive TS girls on here who pass 100%!!

There's always some exceptions to the rule. But in the main most dress up like other transsexuals, or a sexualized image of what they think women dress like. In the main most women dress quite conservatively. Not mini skirts and leopard skin etc. I guess it's a kind of unconscious uniform."

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South East London


"There are quite a few on here that are gorgeous,not just in looks but the most amazing personality and the best company ever!

Beats a guy anytime! Sorry chaps!! "

You measure up quite handsomely against most chaps in the trouser department

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual"."

We'll take a trip to Thailand and change your mind. It's like "i can't believe it's not butter" but with willies.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

We'll take a trip to Thailand and change your mind. It's like "i can't believe it's not butter" but with willies. "

I've been. Big hands and a piece of fabric around their necks. and usually better looking than the women!

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By *amagustaMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

I met t-girl when i was in Essex, she was more beautiful than most girls.

I can't mention about her nickname as she did not allow me

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By *rHornyGentMan
over a year ago

South East London

Anitta B yum yum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mistress sally yumyumyum & wonder what her friends look like.

Take a walk on the wildside & the coloured girls go doop doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

We'll take a trip to Thailand and change your mind. It's like "i can't believe it's not butter" but with willies.

I've been. Big hands and a piece of fabric around their necks. and usually better looking than the women!"

Big hands... all the better to wank you with

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By *ara MTV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdare

Fortunately I have small hands and size 6 feet

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By *ion78Man
over a year ago

Erith

Am lucky enough to have joint profile with a very sexy ts and i get to play with some beautiful and very sexy tv and ts

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By *ion78Man
over a year ago

Erith

Would like to add any man that says its wrong or any negative comments would meet plenty of the sexy tv and ts on fab then deny it only living a lie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feeling one of the wretched "ones" from time to time. Yes I am left breathless at how beautiful some people on here are. As before there are some people who are the best laugh, great company etc. etc. Who might not be in the most beautiful list, it's not the be all and end all.

"ones" though... That's the kind of word to separate and discriminate.

Anyway..all I want from santa is...the lottery numbers for tonight please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wish I have the balls to tell my family and friends about my secret because it would make it easier for me to show my face in public....and believe me, I would be one of those you'll secretly admire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have a look at Miss Classy....she is stunning x"

Spoke to her in the past, beautiful in more ways than one, such a nice girl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lost stunning girl on here is a ts, check out ts-princess from manchester(italian born) absolutly beautiful! best night of my life was with a ts but no longer on here most real tgirls are stunning, tv/cds however do nothing for me xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush! "

Is she in the hot list quite a but and blonde if so she's on my hot list haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is one and won't name her but she's my new fab crush!

Is she in the hot list quite a but and blonde if so she's on my hot list haha "

Could possibly be who im talking about! Aha

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

It's a shame that folk go on about how stunning and femme real some Tgirls are. Do you have any idea how much emotional turmoil and money it costs them to look like their idealised version of themselves?

Yes some TVs don't 'pass' because they're part time and quite happy living a duel life. Quit bitching and let them be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual"."

I agree...The only convincing Trans I have seen were plump middle aged married guys, part time Trans that dressed similiar to the women of their own age group, they were never pretty,nor sexy, but they looked like middle aged women, you could throw them into a crowd of bingo girls and not know the difference..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

interesting to read the different perspectives on this topic. Most of us are largely happy doing what we're doing and having fun, be that the beautiful ultra-convincing TS girls or others who have limitations that can't be overcome or which they have no desire to overcome. Personally, I love my cock too much to have it removed and so choose my clothing accordingly - sadly no bodycon dresses for me in public!

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By *ara MTV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdare


"interesting to read the different perspectives on this topic. Most of us are largely happy doing what we're doing and having fun, be that the beautiful ultra-convincing TS girls or others who have limitations that can't be overcome or which they have no desire to overcome. Personally, I love my cock too much to have it removed and so choose my clothing accordingly - sadly no bodycon dresses for me in public!"

May I suggest learning to tuck or use a gaff.

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

I think the American ones are prettier and more convincing. I can always tell though but agreed some you have to look twice to be certain. Why do you think most of the "straight" men on here prefer TV/S than the biological females. But sorry you can't beat a biological female.

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By *ilent.KnightMan
over a year ago

Swindon


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

We'll take a trip to Thailand and change your mind. It's like "i can't believe it's not butter" but with willies.

I've been. Big hands and a piece of fabric around their necks. and usually better looking than the women!

Big hands... all the better to wank you with "
disagree. Small hand make my cock look big

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"interesting to read the different perspectives on this topic. Most of us are largely happy doing what we're doing and having fun, be that the beautiful ultra-convincing TS girls or others who have limitations that can't be overcome or which they have no desire to overcome. Personally, I love my cock too much to have it removed and so choose my clothing accordingly - sadly no bodycon dresses for me in public!

May I suggest learning to tuck or use a gaff."

Tara, many thanks. Yes I have tucked etc but prefer the freedom and natural feeling of not tucking. Also love skirts and dresses which flatter and flare from the waist like A-line and since these don't require tucking, I'm happy twice over! Have been known to go commando too, with the right skirt/dress. Tiff x

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's a shame that folk go on about how stunning and femme real some Tgirls are. Do you have any idea how much emotional turmoil and money it costs them to look like their idealised version of themselves?

Yes some TVs don't 'pass' because they're part time and quite happy living a duel life. Quit bitching and let them be "

That was exactly what this thread was addressing. I specifically asked what goes into this. How is this bitching. It's appreciation if anything, and yes there are those who won't fall into this description, but that's an unfortunate fact of life, I'm an average guy with an average cock, no six pack and in average shape, it's shit, and I'm tryingz but shit happens.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Looks like this thread has legs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a shame that folk go on about how stunning and femme real some Tgirls are. Do you have any idea how much emotional turmoil and money it costs them to look like their idealised version of themselves?

Yes some TVs don't 'pass' because they're part time and quite happy living a duel life. Quit bitching and let them be "

No one is bitching here, rather more praising than anything

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By *hloevtTV/TS
over a year ago

norwich

Some realy make an effort, look stunning and are rather beautiful.. It takes loads of time and effort to get into full girl mode.. It must be a nightmare being a girl full time.. Eye brows, lashes, waxing, and the shoes just kill me after a couple of hours out in them... Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure I’m beautiful but I make a lot of effort .. then again I enjoy it a lot x

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By *iketohave23Man
over a year ago

swindon

I never met TV till today. Hope I will find one in remix party today

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By *ara MTV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdare


"Not sure I’m beautiful but I make a lot of effort .. then again I enjoy it a lot x"

One of the best things I did was to take professional makeup lessons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

I agree...The only convincing Trans I have seen were plump middle aged married guys, part time Trans that dressed similiar to the women of their own age group, they were never pretty,nor sexy, but they looked like middle aged women, you could throw them into a crowd of bingo girls and not know the difference.."
haha love this ! bit harsh tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I the only one that is genuinely blown away (no pun intended) when I look through the hot list and end up clicking on a picture that stands out immediately, only to find out it's a TS/V?

Surely there's a lot of time and effort put into making this kind of change? I don't think I've ever known a guy feminine looking enough to look even remotely as good.

Have seen some absolutely stunning ts/tv..you cant help but admire them

Im sorry to say that i find it rare to find a TS etc that looks fem. They just seem to look like very good looking Trans folk. Imo. "Convincing" usually means "looks like a really hot transsexual".

I agree...The only convincing Trans I have seen were plump middle aged married guys, part time Trans that dressed similiar to the women of their own age group, they were never pretty,nor sexy, but they looked like middle aged women, you could throw them into a crowd of bingo girls and not know the difference..haha love this ! bit harsh tho "

Not harsh though as they do look like genuine females in every way which is what its all about...

What is a concern is that so many are taken in and decieved by the solo tranny photoshop fiction that is accepted and passed as genuine that daily dominates and gluts the TS/TV most fabbed section of the photopool...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just returning to this thread to apologise to anyone I upset or offended last night.

The comment I made was a genuine question, and in no way intended to insult the poster.

So, once again apologies.

Celestine x

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe

Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. "

Ok had to go look. Oh my god, she's bloody stunning

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah i agree there really is some stunning ts/tg/tv's on here ive been trying for years to get the look that suits me and only in the last sort of month or so that i thunk ive got the look im after and im happy with it. Now just to keep improving it and try to get that but more convincing #MakeUpIsHard

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. "
yes shes stunning ! oh to be 20 again ide defo do the hormones etc

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"Some bloody wretched ones too!"

Thanks, you said you wouldn't mention this....

I agree there are some stunning trans girls here, so jealous of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I consider myself a heterosexual male..however

Some of the T girls I see on here are absolutely stunning like no woman I've ever set eyes on

As a younger man I struggled to come to terms with my attraction for the 3rd sex

Now however I embrace it and tug my little heart out over there pics

There beautiful there different and there horny as hell...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. "

Not me, he might decieve you, but certainly not me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. yes shes stunning ! oh to be 20 again ide defo do the hormones etc

"

Hormones would not give you such a figure, the narrow shoulders, the nipped in waist and the wide child bearing hips and full bottom of a genetic female....

But using a genetic females photos will or perhaps an expensive software manipulation programe would....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some bloody wretched ones too!"

At least they are genuine ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

^^^^^^^ totally agree with those comments

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By *ockandrollaMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Some bloody wretched ones too!

At least they are genuine ...."

Just checked your profile amazing

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By *ockandrollaMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. "

Agreed but when she’s looking for men 10 inches plus , it rules a lot of us mere mortals out

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread.

Agreed but when she’s looking for men 10 inches plus , it rules a lot of us mere mortals out "

Amazes how many guys not only realise that they are women trapped in men's bodies. But also that the kind of women that they are, are those who want to get fucked to oblivion with as many ten inch dicks that they can.

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By *exybecs777TV/TS
over a year ago

Weymouth

Out of interest what would your opinion of me be?

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

You have to laugh at the sweeping generalizations made on here.

I'm never sure if people are seriously stupid or just after attention x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You have to laugh at the sweeping generalizations made on here.

I'm never sure if people are seriously stupid or just after attention x"
I'm certainly not posting on here for attention are you ?

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"You have to laugh at the sweeping generalizations made on here.

I'm never sure if people are seriously stupid or just after attention xI'm certainly not posting on here for attention are you ? "

No I'm not and I don't think you are but then you don't make sweeping generalisations hunni xx

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By *exybecs777TV/TS
over a year ago

Weymouth

I will confess to a bit of attention seeking from Clem x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm interested to know who was making sweeping generalisations as I seem to have missed that bit

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By *loria JamesTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"I'm interested to know who was making sweeping generalisations as I seem to have missed that bit"

Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ines Helena is gorgeous but not from Birmingham so i think transexual Hellen isn't real

Sorry folks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ines Helena is gorgeous but not from Birmingham so i think transexual Hellen isn't real

Sorry folks! "
oh why have u changed ur mind about transsexual hellen ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you op for this thread, I've been finding myself becoming more and more drawn to attractive looking TV's and TS's recently and have to say there's a couple on here whom I find very appealing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm interested to know who was making sweeping generalisations as I seem to have missed that bit

Really?"

yes really

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By *ure_heatMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Probably some sophisticated psychological bullshit behind it... But as a bi lad, for me, it's the perfect combination. Stunning girl, beautiful face, tits, smooth ass... And a cock to play with or get fucked by!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ines Helena is gorgeous but not from Birmingham so i think transexual Hellen isn't real

Sorry folks! oh why have u changed ur mind about transsexual hellen ?"

Those pictures belong to someone called Ines Helena

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Pretty sure, Transexual Hellen would shut up a few in this thread. yes shes stunning ! oh to be 20 again ide defo do the hormones etc

Hormones would not give you such a figure, the narrow shoulders, the nipped in waist and the wide child bearing hips and full bottom of a genetic female....

But using a genetic females photos will or perhaps an expensive software manipulation programe would...."

She thought the Same

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham


"Ines Helena is gorgeous but not from Birmingham so i think transexual Hellen isn't real

Sorry folks! oh why have u changed ur mind about transsexual hellen ?

Those pictures belong to someone called Ines Helena"
the whole profile looks and reads false .its someone's fantasy .not the real world at all .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ines Helena is gorgeous but not from Birmingham so i think transexual Hellen isn't real

Sorry folks! oh why have u changed ur mind about transsexual hellen ?

Those pictures belong to someone called Ines Helena the whole profile looks and reads false .its someone's fantasy .not the real world at all ."

Exactly, shame really that someone got to do that. Feel sorry for the poor sucker that thinks they've got a meet with her!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bet theres lots more fake ones about , well spotted mara !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The real Helena is gorgeous, such a beautiful face. Tried to send you a pic but I could Leah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Helena is gorgeous, such a beautiful face. Tried to send you a pic but I could Leah "
I think she is a natal women tho

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Out of interest what would your opinion of me be? "

You dress as a woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a Tv looks female there's a chance I'll like her but a hairy man in pink pants? Not for me

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"If a Tv looks female there's a chance I'll like her but a hairy man in pink pants? Not for me "

He's probably not dressing for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Helena is gorgeous, such a beautiful face. Tried to send you a pic but I could Leah I think she is a natal women tho

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Natal?

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By *ina VonteeseTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester

How lovely to hear about the confusion we are causing hot blooded males !

I'm not convincing but love to dress.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Sorry to burst peoples bubble but if they look to perfect, they are probably fake. We get a lot on escort sites and they are nothing like their photos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If a Tv looks female there's a chance I'll like her but a hairy man in pink pants? Not for me

He's probably not dressing for you. "
I didn't say he was. Troll

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX"
There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe"

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them."

Don't troll him, he doesn't like it.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them.

Don't troll him, he doesn't like it. "

Can you troll a troll lol.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them.

Don't troll him, he doesn't like it.

Can you troll a troll lol."

They're the first to shout "troll" in my experience.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them.

Don't troll him, he doesn't like it.

Can you troll a troll lol.

They're the first to shout "troll" in my experience. "

Ha ha, no one mentioned troll till you did if I recall.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"All I can say is that there are definitely some extremely sexy, totally gorgeous t-girls on here and I wish I could meet all of them.

XX There are but beware, I encountered a Tv here recently who turned out to be a prostitute confirmed on another site who sleeps with at least five every week according to her veri's. She also films the meets and uploads them without the 'clients' knowledge which she gets paid per click. Due to her activity there's a good chance she could be carrying something so I had a lucky escape. Google search of username and area normally outs them. Be safe

Well you should report them, as you have so much knowledge of them.

Don't troll him, he doesn't like it.

Can you troll a troll lol.

They're the first to shout "troll" in my experience.

Ha ha, no one mentioned troll till you did if I recall."

Incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The real Helena is gorgeous, such a beautiful face. Tried to send you a pic but I could Leah I think she is a natal women tho

Natal?"
sorry it means born a female

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo


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Don't troll him, he doesn't like it.

Can you troll a troll lol.

They're the first to shout "troll" in my experience.

Ha ha, no one mentioned troll till you did if I recall.

Incorrect. "

Ignore each other please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Valentinatv is absolutely stunning . If only I could look like her x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Valentinatv is absolutely stunning . If only I could look like her x"
we can only do the best with what we are blessed with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Valentinatv is absolutely stunning . If only I could look like her x

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You can if you use expensive software manipulation software...

Dont be so easily taken in ...

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