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"I just wanted to post a caution out to all those who go dogging in the Nottinghamshire area as tonight I unfortunately witnessed some threatening behaviour which was a little unnerving. I was located at a well known local spot with a few other single guys scattered around the car park when a vehicle pulled in and parked right next to a gent stood outside smoking. I had my window ajar so I could hear talking and it appeared as if they knew each other so thought nothing more of it. However what looked like a light from a phone kept appearing and voices soon got louder so this caught my attention. what I then heard was the guy who arrived shouting at the mentioned gent with comments like "our turf" "our girls" followed by lots of bad language then i clearly heard the gent repeat "no, I'm ok thankyou" as if he was turning down an offer. The light was now in his face so I assume he we being filmed and i clearly heard "YOU WILL GET OUT OF THIS FUCKING CAR RIGHT NOW AND LET THIS GIRL SUCK YOUR COCK, RIGHT NOW!" Now startled myself I started the car and headed in their direction making sure i lingered around as I didn't want to see anyone get hurt but lucky the gent pulled away in his car but I imagine very shuck up. What I can only assume is he was being forced to pay for sexual activity with the girl and when he refused was demanded, I get the feeling this was a scam to get him to pay money or once out his car to be robbed. Firstly, if the victime involved reads this, I hope you are ok? Second, be careful out there! And if anyone sees this again, report it! "did you not report it op? | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " Not judgemental then!! | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " been once or twice and I'm in agreement with you. nothing beats a lavish hotel room | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. been once or twice and I'm in agreement with you. nothing beats a lavish hotel room " I prefer to entertain at home tho the hotel room does have a certain appeal  | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!!" No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!!" No I'd say that's the truth. How many fit, attractive, articulate single men do you find hanging round dogging spots? | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No I'd say that's the truth. How many fit, attractive, articulate single men do you find hanging round dogging spots? " We agree with first post, not the second. As for the third, we have never been dogging, so cannot comment from experience, but we have chatted with couples that tried out certain locations and listened to their horror stories. So we will stick to homes, hotels and other comfortable locations.  | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No I'd say that's the truth. How many fit, attractive, articulate single men do you find hanging round dogging spots? " quite a few actually | |||
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"Unfortunately there is always a risk when putting yourself ‘off radar’. Hence, we would never put ourselves in that situation. Not that we’re righteous or pretentious in any way but the fear would consume any sexual feeling. Horses for courses. Be safe people. Mr" The weather puts me off as much as anything. How many weeks a year is it warm enough that you'd like to get your todger out in a carpark - 2? | |||
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"Unfortunately there is always a risk when putting yourself ‘off radar’. Hence, we would never put ourselves in that situation. Not that we’re righteous or pretentious in any way but the fear would consume any sexual feeling. Horses for courses. Be safe people. Mr The weather puts me off as much as anything. How many weeks a year is it warm enough that you'd like to get your todger out in a carpark - 2? " This is also true. I’m more of your indoor, centrally heated, plush bed, hotel room dogger  | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " For once I'm in agreement with you  | |||
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"All, I posted this as a community warning for peoples safety. Not for you to slag off those who enjoy the thrill of meeting a random person in a place where you could get caught. " Not into dogging but | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. " I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument. 
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
"Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party. "I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then."they wont just be pissy willys in clubs , I dreg to think where theve been put just before sucking on one lol  | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then."Yes we like clubs. They have these things called showers, brilliant they are but they don't tend to have them in dogging locations. Clubs also have heating which makes ones willy look bigger once it has been washed of piss. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party. " | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then.
Yes we like clubs. They have these things called showers, brilliant they are but they don't tend to have them in dogging locations. Clubs also have heating which makes ones willy look bigger once it has been washed of piss. "And you know they've been washed how?..... Nothing stops people showering before going out dogging, nothing stops them taking hygiene wipes, cars have heaters. | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that " I dislike this idea that nothing at all can be criticized unless one is deemed a bigot. I have partaken in some dogging myself...met some cool people. But I would be a liar to pretend as if it wasnt a shady pastime filled with a lot of questionable characters. I laugh it off heartily when my friend joke about how "scummy" I am for trying it too. Why is everything so fucking devoid of criticism on here? | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that I dislike this idea that nothing at all can be criticized unless one is deemed a bigot. I have partaken in some dogging myself...met some cool people. But I would be a liar to pretend as if it wasnt a shady pastime filled with a lot of questionable characters. I laugh it off heartily when my friend joke about how "scummy" I am for trying it too. Why is everything so fucking devoid of criticism on here?" AMEN | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that I dislike this idea that nothing at all can be criticized unless one is deemed a bigot. I have partaken in some dogging myself...met some cool people. But I would be a liar to pretend as if it wasnt a shady pastime filled with a lot of questionable characters. I laugh it off heartily when my friend joke about how "scummy" I am for trying it too. Why is everything so fucking devoid of criticism on here?" Why can only shady dregs be doggers, porn stars and escorts. Is it uncomfortable to think that respectable middle aged educated, employed ladies may do any of these things 
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party. "Hotlisted! | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that " | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!!" Its called having an opinion nothing judgemental about it. | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that " Even dregs have standards dahling | |||
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"why cant people just live and let live without the disparaging comments , lets face it most of society may think we on this site are dregs , and we know better than that I dislike this idea that nothing at all can be criticized unless one is deemed a bigot. I have partaken in some dogging myself...met some cool people. But I would be a liar to pretend as if it wasnt a shady pastime filled with a lot of questionable characters. I laugh it off heartily when my friend joke about how "scummy" I am for trying it too. Why is everything so fucking devoid of criticism on here? Why can only shady dregs be doggers, porn stars and escorts. Is it uncomfortable to think that respectable middle aged educated, employed ladies may do any of these things
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"Fucking hell some people can argue in an empty room,all the guy was doing was warning people. If that's happening it sounds flipping scary." Usual suspects  | |||
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"Fucking hell some people can argue in an empty room,all the guy was doing was warning people. If that's happening it sounds flipping scary." It's just blindly obvious. Just do a little google search and you'll find thousands of similar stories because, unsurprisingly, dogging isn't safe. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then.
Yes we like clubs. They have these things called showers, brilliant they are but they don't tend to have them in dogging locations. Clubs also have heating which makes ones willy look bigger once it has been washed of piss.
And you know they've been washed how?.....
Nothing stops people showering before going out dogging, nothing stops them taking hygiene wipes, cars have heaters."They probably have a chief cock taster who decides whether one is worthy & clean enough to join them. | |||
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" They probably have a chief cock taster who decides whether one is worthy & clean enough to join them. " | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then.
Yes we like clubs. They have these things called showers, brilliant they are but they don't tend to have them in dogging locations. Clubs also have heating which makes ones willy look bigger once it has been washed of piss.
And you know they've been washed how?.....
Nothing stops people showering before going out dogging, nothing stops them taking hygiene wipes, cars have heaters.
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target." I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main"" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main"" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " We’ve been dogging for almost seven years now , and yes it gets chilly ( that’s why we like car fun too ) , and we never go without having bathed first and we take a plentiful supply of wipes and cleaning stuff with us . We have rarely encountered safety issues , and we certainly aren’t the dregs . Nor are the people we meet , which include people from all walks of life , and none are pissed or high on drugs . | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. We’ve been dogging for almost seven years now , and yes it gets chilly ( that’s why we like car fun too ) , and we never go without having bathed first and we take a plentiful supply of wipes and cleaning stuff with us . We have rarely encountered safety issues , and we certainly aren’t the dregs . Nor are the people we meet , which include people from all walks of life , and none are pissed or high on drugs . "In general that was my experience of dogging when i used to go. There was rarely any safety issues because the dogging community always looked after each other. Sometimes boy racers and police turned up but 99.9% of the time it was great. I rarely encountered dirty, smelly, people when dogging (shower/bath before going and use wipes, water etc to keep clean) however i frequently have when at a club despite there being showers freely available to use. I never encountered d*unk or drugged up guys when dogging but have often encountered them at clubs hence we don't go clubs in the evening now so we can mainly avoid them. I have also encountered dirty, smelly, dangerous, d*unks etc when meeting swingers at parties, homes, hotels etc. Far more than when dogging. If others thing i'm a dreg because i have been dogging thats fine, it's a good filter for me/us
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " Phil mitchell was into it.. wonder if his brother grant was also.. should have done a skit of it in eastenders lol | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. " I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. | |||
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"I can't understand the connection with dogging and not having a shower. To the OP though, hope you reported it to the police ?" You might have a shower before you go, might. But hang around a car park for any significant length of time and you'll need the toilet. Then it's pissy willy territory. | |||
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"I can't understand the connection with dogging and not having a shower. To the OP though, hope you reported it to the police ? You might have a shower before you go, might. But hang around a car park for any significant length of time and you'll need the toilet. Then it's pissy willy territory. " this sounds as ur well experienced in dogging ?? | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. " All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... | |||
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"I can't understand the connection with dogging and not having a shower. To the OP though, hope you reported it to the police ? You might have a shower before you go, might. But hang around a car park for any significant length of time and you'll need the toilet. Then it's pissy willy territory. Not a problem for us dregs that like water sports as well oh I adore watersports too mmmmmm"Only ever done it one on one in bath or showers. We have a wetroom ensuite at home which is perfect. Love to experience some group play with this | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... " exactly this ! people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that ! | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. " I didn't find it sleazy to be honest. Maybe it's because of the type of people i'd come across and the places i went. Now some clubs, hotels and people have been very sleazy, i didn't get such a good choice at times hence I'm sooooo picky now ! | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... " Very true
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... " You know what hyperbole is. For the reasons you give, it's a bad idea for swingers to be overly sensisitive about what strangers think or say about them. So no actual problems with the analysis then? | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... You know what hyperbole is. For the reasons you give, it's a bad idea for swingers to be overly sensisitive about what strangers think or say about them. So no actual problems with the analysis then? " Plenty of problems until you give a definition of "dregs" | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. Not judgemental then!! No that's logic not judgement. Please correct the logic if you disagree with my conclusion. I've never been able to articulate why dogging doesn't appeal (to ME; each to their own n'all that!) without fearing the retort from those who do. But that hits it on the head for me. It is only the use of the word 'dregs' that promotes an emotive response, the rest of it is reasoned and intelligent argument.
Dregs - just a bit of hyperbole to add some spice. Obviously not everyone who enjoys sucking the pissy willies of lorry drivers is a dreg. I'm sure there is excitement to be had in the challenge of trying to make them cum before some boy racers or police break up the party.
I notice that your profile includes an interest in clubs, no pissy willies for you then.
Yes we like clubs. They have these things called showers, brilliant they are but they don't tend to have them in dogging locations. Clubs also have heating which makes ones willy look bigger once it has been washed of piss. "Though the jacuzzi is full of cum at the end of the night, well I never
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"Fucking hell some people can argue in an empty room,all the guy was doing was warning people. If that's happening it sounds flipping scary. It's just blindly obvious. Just do a little google search and you'll find thousands of similar stories because, unsurprisingly, dogging isn't safe. " if find it safer than going to a guys house... I don't get the way on here people are so judgemental of others indulgences. We have both done dogging. Both seperately before we met and together and it was nothing like was described...in fact I've seen more d*unk and not to my liking gents at clubs than I did dogging. It's always been a fun social time. We prefer a club but on occassion have had a good giggle and time dogging. | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. All depends how you define "dregs" I suppose. I think most people would consider those "one better than paedophiles" to be the dregs of society. Given the low opinion that general society holds about us, it seems to me not very helpful to turn on people whose kinks you don't share and refer to them in such a loaded way. Of course you could have made the same point that you don't like dogging because it's cold and there are no shower facilities without attacking doggers as such. But then you wouldn't have got a reaction.... You know what hyperbole is. For the reasons you give, it's a bad idea for swingers to be overly sensisitive about what strangers think or say about them. So no actual problems with the analysis then? It's never what you say in the forum. It's always about the way you say it. And I am referring to you specifically not talking generally. There's being honest and to the point and there's being a bell end. " Exactly. It's perfectly possible to explain you don't like dogging because you are concerned about cleanliness or safety say, without insulting doggers. On the demographics of dogging, I suspect you get far more attached men than in clubs as its easier for such people to dig out to a dogging spot than to a club. | |||
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"At the end of the day, this is why i find dogging completely unappealing. Given the safety risks, bad weather and lack of hygiene facilities, i can only assume that in the main, dogging attracts dregs who don't want to pay for a swinging club or hotel room. " Is it safe to let your lady meet a strange man on his own ? This isn’t something Sir would ever allow. Neither would we engage in activity bordering or actually classed as taboo. Not the sector of society we choose to mix with. Each to their own though | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself "Wow I love being referred to as dregs, cheers for that! And as for the OP, we'll done for giving people a heads up hun xx | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself Wow I love being referred to as dregs, cheers for that! And as for the OP, we'll done for giving people a heads up hun xx"There are basically entire websites dedicated to such warnings since the problems with dogging have become so widespread. Other complaints include apps or text groups that share information on which spots have women at them, so the minute a women actually turns up then the place gets flooded with 20 new cars. Boy races and other drivers just intimidating people and our course police could do you for lewd acts. | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself Wow I love being referred to as dregs, cheers for that! And as for the OP, we'll done for giving people a heads up hun xx
There are basically entire websites dedicated to such warnings since the problems with dogging have become so widespread. Other complaints include apps or text groups that share information on which spots have women at them, so the minute a women actually turns up then the place gets flooded with 20 new cars. Boy races and other drivers just intimidating people and our course police could do you for lewd acts. "sweetheart don't you think doggers know all the risks involved ? ur not saying anything we don't already know , some like the risk factor too | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself Wow I love being referred to as dregs, cheers for that! And as for the OP, we'll done for giving people a heads up hun xx
There are basically entire websites dedicated to such warnings since the problems with dogging have become so widespread. Other complaints include apps or text groups that share information on which spots have women at them, so the minute a women actually turns up then the place gets flooded with 20 new cars. Boy races and other drivers just intimidating people and our course police could do you for lewd acts. sweetheart don't you think doggers know all the risks involved ? ur not saying anything we don't already know , some like the risk factor too "Then why are people treating this thread like it's informative news? | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" You made a sweeping and insulting generalisation about an activity you admit you haven’t actually engaged in yourself Wow I love being referred to as dregs, cheers for that! And as for the OP, we'll done for giving people a heads up hun xx
There are basically entire websites dedicated to such warnings since the problems with dogging have become so widespread. Other complaints include apps or text groups that share information on which spots have women at them, so the minute a women actually turns up then the place gets flooded with 20 new cars. Boy races and other drivers just intimidating people and our course police could do you for lewd acts. sweetheart don't you think doggers know all the risks involved ? ur not saying anything we don't already know , some like the risk factor too
Then why are people treating this thread like it's informative news? "the OP shared his recent experiences , this is not a usual occurrence at all , people have merely expressed their views on the matter , some have been derogatory in their comments , that's life | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. " So you clearly take no note of experienced doggers like ourselves who give perfectly valid reasons for preferring dogging . And yes , I’m pointing out where your analysis is wrong . And yes I dislike your conclusion . You’ve never been dogging , and you are basing all your assumptions on google . So your comments are unfounded other than from guesswork and what the internet says . I really don’t know why I’m bothered to be honest , but since you’ve gone public with your judgemental views , the least I can do is offer a balance , which is entirely based on genuine experiences . The fact that people from every walk of life enjoy dogging ( you’d be surprised how many bentleys , Aston Martins etc .... and we’ve met judges , solicitors , famous musicians etc ... ) totally blows your dregs analysis away . The cleanliness issue I’ve already explained , and as for using toilet facilities , one can still piss without being dirty without an indoor loo . The legality is a grey area , but we are very reliably informed that unlessa a complaint is made about lewd behaviour , no law is being broken . This is by the police who we regularly chat with at dogging sites . We have never encountered d*unk swingers while dogging , nor any that are high on drugs . When we attended clubs we did on a regular basis . By all means have your own personal opinion on dogging , but the way you are coming across in such a judgemental and derogatory way is unbecoming and bloody rude . Especially when you speak as if it’s something you actually KNOW the facts about , and in reality you really don’t ! | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. So you clearly take no note of experienced doggers like ourselves who give perfectly valid reasons for preferring dogging . And yes , I’m pointing out where your analysis is wrong . And yes I dislike your conclusion . You’ve never been dogging , and you are basing all your assumptions on google . So your comments are unfounded other than from guesswork and what the internet says . I really don’t know why I’m bothered to be honest , but since you’ve gone public with your judgemental views , the least I can do is offer a balance , which is entirely based on genuine experiences . The fact that people from every walk of life enjoy dogging ( you’d be surprised how many bentleys , Aston Martins etc .... and we’ve met judges , solicitors , famous musicians etc ... ) totally blows your dregs analysis away . The cleanliness issue I’ve already explained , and as for using toilet facilities , one can still piss without being dirty without an indoor loo . The legality is a grey area , but we are very reliably informed that unlessa a complaint is made about lewd behaviour , no law is being broken . This is by the police who we regularly chat with at dogging sites . We have never encountered d*unk swingers while dogging , nor any that are high on drugs . When we attended clubs we did on a regular basis . By all means have your own personal opinion on dogging , but the way you are coming across in such a judgemental and derogatory way is unbecoming and bloody rude . Especially when you speak as if it’s something you actually KNOW the facts about , and in reality you really don’t ! " | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. So you clearly take no note of experienced doggers like ourselves who give perfectly valid reasons for preferring dogging . And yes , I’m pointing out where your analysis is wrong . And yes I dislike your conclusion . You’ve never been dogging , and you are basing all your assumptions on google . So your comments are unfounded other than from guesswork and what the internet says . I really don’t know why I’m bothered to be honest , but since you’ve gone public with your judgemental views , the least I can do is offer a balance , which is entirely based on genuine experiences . The fact that people from every walk of life enjoy dogging ( you’d be surprised how many bentleys , Aston Martins etc .... and we’ve met judges , solicitors , famous musicians etc ... ) totally blows your dregs analysis away . The cleanliness issue I’ve already explained , and as for using toilet facilities , one can still piss without being dirty without an indoor loo . The legality is a grey area , but we are very reliably informed that unlessa a complaint is made about lewd behaviour , no law is being broken . This is by the police who we regularly chat with at dogging sites . We have never encountered d*unk swingers while dogging , nor any that are high on drugs . When we attended clubs we did on a regular basis . By all means have your own personal opinion on dogging , but the way you are coming across in such a judgemental and derogatory way is unbecoming and bloody rude . Especially when you speak as if it’s something you actually KNOW the facts about , and in reality you really don’t ! " | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. So you clearly take no note of experienced doggers like ourselves who give perfectly valid reasons for preferring dogging . And yes , I’m pointing out where your analysis is wrong . And yes I dislike your conclusion . You’ve never been dogging , and you are basing all your assumptions on google . So your comments are unfounded other than from guesswork and what the internet says . I really don’t know why I’m bothered to be honest , but since you’ve gone public with your judgemental views , the least I can do is offer a balance , which is entirely based on genuine experiences . The fact that people from every walk of life enjoy dogging ( you’d be surprised how many bentleys , Aston Martins etc .... and we’ve met judges , solicitors , famous musicians etc ... ) totally blows your dregs analysis away . The cleanliness issue I’ve already explained , and as for using toilet facilities , one can still piss without being dirty without an indoor loo . The legality is a grey area , but we are very reliably informed that unlessa a complaint is made about lewd behaviour , no law is being broken . This is by the police who we regularly chat with at dogging sites . We have never encountered d*unk swingers while dogging , nor any that are high on drugs . When we attended clubs we did on a regular basis . By all means have your own personal opinion on dogging , but the way you are coming across in such a judgemental and derogatory way is unbecoming and bloody rude . Especially when you speak as if it’s something you actually KNOW the facts about , and in reality you really don’t ! " | |||
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"Wow.. no cutting remarks used in this thread at all.. I'm sure, like most past times that are popular on fab, dogging involves pretty much a cross section of society and not just "dregs".. If dogging is seen as a little seedy because, well, it is a little seedy, however so are a lot of other sexual activities.. The same could be said of preventing another from being able to breathe easily or strapping them to a cross and flogging them until they bleed? It's all subjective.. That aside, it does not change the warning, that being in a public place that is well known for Dogging is ultimately going to attract some unsavoury characters that would otherwise want to do you harm through threats of violence or other means to make money... Doggers are an easy target, pardon the pun, but you are getting caught with your pants down... easy target. I never said it was exclusively for dregs, i said "in the main" As someone above said mainstream society would pretty much consider swinging to be for the" dregs". see virtually any conventional media portrayal of swingers. One of the interesting things about those of us who get up to non hetero normative sex is to desire to find others to look down on. I think society would consider swinging to be for deviants rather than dregs. About one better than paedophiles in most vanilla peoples eyes. Personally i don't get my knickers in a twist about that. I can't think of any advantages to dogging other than it's free. So it seems like it's primarily swingers, minus those who appreciate a hot shower nearby, minus those who like security at a venue, minus those who can accomodate, minus those who prefer a legal venue and don't mind paying for it = the dregs that are left other than a few thrill seekers who just love the sleaziness of it. By all means point out where the analysis is wrong if you dislike the conclusion. So you clearly take no note of experienced doggers like ourselves who give perfectly valid reasons for preferring dogging . And yes , I’m pointing out where your analysis is wrong . And yes I dislike your conclusion . You’ve never been dogging , and you are basing all your assumptions on google . So your comments are unfounded other than from guesswork and what the internet says . I really don’t know why I’m bothered to be honest , but since you’ve gone public with your judgemental views , the least I can do is offer a balance , which is entirely based on genuine experiences . The fact that people from every walk of life enjoy dogging ( you’d be surprised how many bentleys , Aston Martins etc .... and we’ve met judges , solicitors , famous musicians etc ... ) totally blows your dregs analysis away . The cleanliness issue I’ve already explained , and as for using toilet facilities , one can still piss without being dirty without an indoor loo . The legality is a grey area , but we are very reliably informed that unlessa a complaint is made about lewd behaviour , no law is being broken . This is by the police who we regularly chat with at dogging sites . We have never encountered d*unk swingers while dogging , nor any that are high on drugs . When we attended clubs we did on a regular basis . By all means have your own personal opinion on dogging , but the way you are coming across in such a judgemental and derogatory way is unbecoming and bloody rude . Especially when you speak as if it’s something you actually KNOW the facts about , and in reality you really don’t ! " Thankfully a voice of reason, and to be fair there have been one or two on here. Like yoisreselves weveme t some great people while dogging, buisness men in suits with large cars, clean people, decent people, etc etc..never have we encountered anyone wishing to cause bother, of course that doesn't mean the idiots aren't out there, and we've also never encountered anyone d*unk, drugged up, or smelling of piss. If people don't like dogging then fine, we couldn't care less, there's a few things we aren't into, but we'd never go on a forum and completely attempt to disparage those that did enjoy that pastime. | |||
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