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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? " You wanking to your questions again OP? The Green arrow explains a lot  | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !!" Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison" Lol not really aids and hiv could do that | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that" Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!  | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv! "Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that" One in six chance of instant death? No. HIV can not 'do that' you just sound daft now | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!
Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!
Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
C"Let's get the statistics right here... in the UK 1 in 600 people are actually living with HIV | |||
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"I don't LET my wife do anything, she makes her own decisions!" Right answer  | |||
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"No 1 in 600 KNOW they're hiv positive not everyone that has the virus knows they do straight away you can be symptom free for up to 10 years " and out of the 1 in 600 how many would actually have unprotected sex knowing they would pass infection so allot lower than that I would say | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison" I agree.....keeping healthy and safe has no comparison to Russian roulette. Keep it real guys! I think everyone, even if you are someone's wife should make their own choices. We are all grown ups after all. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction???" I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!
Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!
Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
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Thats not how statistics work for fuck sake"You've got admit that it's fun to go fishing in threads like this though  | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication" Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? You wanking to your questions again OP? The Green arrow explains a lot "No he works for Sydney University LOL!! | |||
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Obviously needed a few days for the sores on his hand to clear up before he could post another thread to get some wanking fodder. | |||
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"Well all this talk of HIV, AIDS and russian roulette must really have pissed on the OP's wank today. Ginger " | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. " While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. " This is probably one of the best posts I’ve read in recent months . Finally someone has hit the nail on the head , and actually said exactly what I’ve been thinking for some time now . The subject matter , bb sex is kind of irrelevant as to why , but the statements about the forum gathering the talkers , and that what gets said by them bears no relation to the rest of the site is spot on . Oh and the fact that bb sex is nothing like Russian roulette is 100% correct too . A childish comparison at best . Get a grip , it’s way more common than you think , and although it carries a risk , so does unprotected oral , and pretty much everyone is happy to say they do that . | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? " Do you OP? | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? " My wife makes her own choices, but she wouldn't choose to take that type of risk. Cal | |||
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"Ahh that's better. It only took 4 posts for a BB thread to get to Russian Roulette. The other day it took about 30 and I was a bit worried that someone had murdered some morons "comedy genius lol | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? " Your profile says single. Do you have a wife even!? Grabbing popcorn ?? | |||
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"Ahh that's better. It only took 4 posts for a BB thread to get to Russian Roulette. The other day it took about 30 and I was a bit worried that someone had murdered some morons " We can all live in hope  | |||
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"My wife makes her own decisions, being a feee human being and not my property. However we do have an agreement that we use condoms with everyone other than ourselves. Any change to fluid bonding with another person requires conversion all round and tests. " Fluid bonding,is that just snagging other people? | |||
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"My wife makes her own decisions, being a feee human being and not my property. However we do have an agreement that we use condoms with everyone other than ourselves. Any change to fluid bonding with another person requires conversion all round and tests. Fluid bonding,is that just snagging other people? " Err shagging,don't know what the stuff snagging is!  | |||
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"My wife makes her own decisions, being a feee human being and not my property. However we do have an agreement that we use condoms with everyone other than ourselves. Any change to fluid bonding with another person requires conversion all round and tests. Fluid bonding,is that just snagging other people? " It's posh for bareback, to try and make it sound more meaningful than 'spunking inside with no condom | |||
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"My wife makes her own decisions, being a feee human being and not my property. However we do have an agreement that we use condoms with everyone other than ourselves. Any change to fluid bonding with another person requires conversion all round and tests. Fluid bonding,is that just snagging other people? It's posh for bareback, to try and make it sound more meaningful than 'spunking inside with no condom " Oh right thankyou for explaining | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? " She does as pleases, but she knows if she does, I won't have sex bb with her for atleast 6 months and 3 months safe. Last time we was at a club she let a guy fuck her bb(didn't cum apparently), without me knowing(chlorine in eyes couldn't see anything). Now she has too wait and get tested before I'll romp her. Luckily we have a gf, so I don't go without | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. " FINALLY a sensible post. Yes BB sex has some finite risks but the risks are quite small. I won't say it's impossible to get HIV from vaginal sex but it's much LESS likely than anal sex. The "russian roulette" comparison is so daft and stupid it's not even worth giving any lip. At the end of the day BB sex is a CHOICE. Like every choice in life there are pros and cons. I personally love BB sex and get tested every month and am still standing in one piece. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. " I agree with some of your points, but to say that contracting HIV through unprotected vaginal is nearly impossible is simply not true. Granted, its easier for a woman to pick it up through bb than a man. Vaginal membranes are more susceptible to injury (think rough sex) which can create entry points for the transmission. This can occur for us gents if we suffer a small cut in the penis, particularly for uncircumcised individuals. True, unprotected anal is much riskier, but vaginal is not safe, especially for the lady. In the end though, people are free to do what they will in the end. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs" Here is your reputable source: "A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4" http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ "A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. " Interesting to see a woman as a 'reciever' has greater odds than a man as an 'inserter' in that research. By greater I mean more chance | |||
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" Interesting to see a woman as a 'reciever' has greater odds than a man as an 'inserter' in that research. By greater I mean more chance " Women have always had greater susceptibility to infection from sexual contact. Which, by reading the forums, you would not think is the case. After doing some research, I have come to realize we're surprisingly ill informed about the nature of STD's. We have really just taken to fear mongering as a place holder for a lack of real education about sexual health. | |||
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"What’s your deal Davieboy26? Why do you always only ever post one line questions daily with zero interactions? Are you a robot?" Strange isn't it  | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. " Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. " No. Once again...this is NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK. The chances of you catching HIV are from those WITH the disease...an already low number as is. The number of heterosexual women in the UK with HIV is low...very low. You do know many health practitioners awareness of said stats mean they often times end up not actually bothering to perform certain tests on demographics whose representation among sufferers is negligible. The risk of catching HIV through vaginal intercourse is negligible. 0.04-0.08% is the very concept of negligible. In any statistical analysis, such a low number would often end up relegated to the margin of error. | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. No. Once again...this is NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK. The chances of you catching HIV are from those WITH the disease...an already low number as is. The number of heterosexual women in the UK with HIV is low...very low. You do know many health practitioners awareness of said stats mean they often times end up not actually bothering to perform certain tests on demographics whose representation among sufferers is negligible. The risk of catching HIV through vaginal intercourse is negligible. 0.04-0.08% is the very concept of negligible. In any statistical analysis, such a low number would often end up relegated to the margin of error. " 32,000 women living with HIV in the UK... about a third of diagnosed cases... maybe not as low as you might think | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. No. Once again...this is NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK. The chances of you catching HIV are from those WITH the disease...an already low number as is. The number of heterosexual women in the UK with HIV is low...very low. You do know many health practitioners awareness of said stats mean they often times end up not actually bothering to perform certain tests on demographics whose representation among sufferers is negligible. The risk of catching HIV through vaginal intercourse is negligible. 0.04-0.08% is the very concept of negligible. In any statistical analysis, such a low number would often end up relegated to the margin of error. 32,000 women living with HIV in the UK... about a third of diagnosed cases... maybe not as low as you might think" 32000 out of a population of 30-35 million. Come on man. People should know how this works. And even, very few of those women will be native of here neither likely swingers. | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison" Five to one One in six Sorry ....... | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. No. Once again...this is NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK. The chances of you catching HIV are from those WITH the disease...an already low number as is. The number of heterosexual women in the UK with HIV is low...very low. You do know many health practitioners awareness of said stats mean they often times end up not actually bothering to perform certain tests on demographics whose representation among sufferers is negligible. The risk of catching HIV through vaginal intercourse is negligible. 0.04-0.08% is the very concept of negligible. In any statistical analysis, such a low number would often end up relegated to the margin of error. 32,000 women living with HIV in the UK... about a third of diagnosed cases... maybe not as low as you might think 32000 out of a population of 30-35 million. Come on man. People should know how this works. And even, very few of those women will be native of here neither likely swingers. " I am not denying that.... you stated that the incidence of Positive females in the UK "is very low" 32,000+ is not "very low".... I am glad you are not my accountant | |||
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"Why oh why do all you idiots get uptight when you see a bareback post.i wonder why the op posted this thread,why give him the satisfaction??? I'm not uptight at all... I love BB sex... The OP always posts a question and never answers, just uses them for wank fodder I'm guessing... The statistics are 1 in 600 people living with HIV in the UK, fact. As a previous poster said though, not all HIV positive people will be fucking bareback, but some will be, plus those who don't know they are carrying the virus and are infectious whilst not on medication Add to this the fact that spreading HIV through vaginal sex is near impossible. The lack of sex education in a so called sex site is as tragic as it is comical. Bareback sex is not like playing russian roulette and is pretty common if you have even remote experience in the swinging scene. The problem is the forum gathers all the full of shit Fabbers who spend more time talking about swinging rather than doing it and often have experiences and expectations of swinging which dont correlate with the rest of the site in any way. While I agree russian roulette is a ridiculous comparison to make, saying "spreading hiv through vaginal sex is near impossible" is just not true either. Don't combat lack of sex education with lack of sex education. I would urge people to get the facts from a reputable source. Then make your own decision about your own body. And leave everyone else to make theirs Here is your reputable source: A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4 http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv And... https://www.aidsmap.com/Vaginal-intercourse/page/1323532/ A meta-analysis of studies of heterosexual HIV transmission found that, in high-income countries prior to the introduction of combination therapy, the risk per sexual act was 0.04% if the female partner was HIV-positive, and 0.08% when the male partner was HIV-positive. However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2 LOL, yes. 0.04% is pretty much near impossible in layman terms. Its pretty much a medical lingo for "If you come to your doctor and claim that you caught HIV from vaginal sex with a woman whilst claiming to be heterosexual, its obvious you're full of shit". As said, a lot of you really have no idea what you're talking about and most of what you know about sex is second hand information gathered from round the pub. Unless you pick the wrong partner... "However, these rates were considerably higher in lower-income countries, if the source partner was in either the very early or the late stage of HIV infection, or if one partner had genital ulcer disease.2" So if you are with someone in the very early stages of hiv and they just dont know they have it (as estimated is the case in 13% of hiv sufferers in the uk) chances are "considerably higher". No longer "pretty much impossible" as you stated. Yes other ways of catching it may be riskier. But stating there is no risk in vaginal sex is just irresponsible and untrue. No. Once again...this is NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK. The chances of you catching HIV are from those WITH the disease...an already low number as is. The number of heterosexual women in the UK with HIV is low...very low. You do know many health practitioners awareness of said stats mean they often times end up not actually bothering to perform certain tests on demographics whose representation among sufferers is negligible. The risk of catching HIV through vaginal intercourse is negligible. 0.04-0.08% is the very concept of negligible. In any statistical analysis, such a low number would often end up relegated to the margin of error. 32,000 women living with HIV in the UK... about a third of diagnosed cases... maybe not as low as you might think 32000 out of a population of 30-35 million. Come on man. People should know how this works. And even, very few of those women will be native of here neither likely swingers. " When using statistics to encourage women to believe they are safe from ever catching hiv through unprotected vaginal sex, you better be sure, very damn sure. Hopefully nobody is going to take the word of some random on fab that would argue black was white... I say again. Take advice from a reputable source people. | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? You wanking to your questions again OP? The Green arrow explains a lot "What's the green arrow mean?? | |||
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"Do you let you wife have bareback sex with other men ? You wanking to your questions again OP? The Green arrow explains a lot
What's the green arrow mean?? "The little green arrow next to a person's name is a link to other posts they have commented on. | |||
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"Wouldn't anyway not into Russian roulette !! Russian roulette? A six to one chance of instant death? What a stupid and comparison Lol not really aids and hiv could do that Blimy! I didn't realise 1 in 6 people had hiv!
Statistically speaking one out of the six people you sleep with COULD have HIV. So not the worst comparison
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"Has anyone considered this piece of evidence? https://youtu.be/5yC7HwPh6Es Hahaha! Can't argue with such a credible source as Team America!" The finest minds at work on the subject right here
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"What could possibly go wrong" What could go wrong..that's obvious isn't it? If he's not wearing a condom he might spill over onto your nice clean duvet! (Seriously though...anyone that goes bareback in such circumstances is just plain daft, stupid in fact) Wrap up and stay safe! | |||
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"Looking at the OP threads he's started, he obviously likes to ask questions and sit there with his trollies around his ankles knocking one out "shopping trollies ?? | |||
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