FabSwingers.com forum: Cheaters!

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have met a couple of guys who I believed to be single and then down the line found out they were married/partner etc. I hate it. I don't want to be a part of it and it really has put me off a little

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)

This is why we cynically assume everyone who can't accommodate is married/in a relationship regardless of the reasons stated in their profiles. Even though we generally meet at ours and we might miss out on genuinely single people it means there's very little chance of our meets being with people we don't want to play with. Hotel meets don't count as 'can accommodate' either.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ive now found out 2 and i am in the same circle of friends as the one guy so i know ill eventually have to meet her. It just makes me feel guilty and uncomfortable

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By *mo-amas-amatMan
over a year ago

brighton

"Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

Don't really know why I'm being so honest but I cheated on my swinging partner. We were a couple. I did it for the usual reasons, wanted to escape for a while, that kind of thing, but when she left me and then did nice things for me as a friend, I fell in love with her all over again. The shame I feel is enormous.

Oh to turn back time....

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"Ive now found out 2 and i am in the same circle of friends as the one guy so i know ill eventually have to meet her. It just makes me feel guilty and uncomfortable"

Don't feel guilty you weren't the one that lied.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

If they don't accomodate or don't want to meet me for a social in a public place I don't meet them.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

We are rapidly learning that genuinely single people are few and far between.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think everyone should be honest about their relationship status on here but having read some very vile things on the forums towards married people who are honest, I can see why some choose to lie.

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By *easingtessWoman
over a year ago

waterford

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By *easingtessWoman
over a year ago

waterford

"I think everyone should be honest about their relationship status on here but having read some very vile things on the forums towards married people who are honest, I can see why some choose to lie."

I'll second this. Although being a married lady on here doesn't put people off. I've never had anyone comment on my married status except to say it's a turn on. I have had couple mailing asking me to meet when it clearly says on their profile don't meet married or attached guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't mind meeting married but I,d rather they were upfront about it. And they must have a big car xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We met with some one once who after playing told us she was pregnant early days clearly and had a long term partner we weren’t impressed and never met them again it put us off single people for quite a long time not that single ladies are easy to find lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Looking back it's clear that we've met men who're married and their wife isn't aware but we wouldn't knowingly do it. We don't meet single women but if we did we would apply the same thinking.

The problem is that its nigh on impossible to tell until pretty far down the line with some people because they're such plausible liars.

If you misjudge a situation and discover a person's married there's no blame can be attached to you though, you went ahead in good faith.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Most guys who are attached will lie about it because they know that telling the truth will lessen their already low chances.

Most women who are attached will be honest as it won't significantly reduce their already very high chances.

From experience we would say about seventy per cent of alleged single men have an unknowing partner

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

loads of them on here, just the nature of the site. People will tell you what they think you want to hear so there's no way you will know the truth. Lots of people that only meet cheaters, taste for all flavours on here. Personally I wouldn't specifically go for a cheat as if it was on the other foot I would be devastated but since joining this site I realise I shouldn't be as naïve as I used to be thinking relationships are two people. I'm educated now hahaha

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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

I'm not judgemental. I don't mind meeting married or attached men (or women). I do ask that they be honest upfront and most are (what's the point of lying). People cheat for reasons that are impossible for others to understand - circumstances, bad decisions, etc etc who am I to judge.

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

I don't see the point in lying,i'm a "cheater" my partner doesn't know i'm on here but i've made that clear to anyone i've chatted to. We've all got our own reasons for being on here so why can't people just be honest and say so. I can understand your frustration that someone has lied to you especially after you've been cheated on, that's why its so hard for women and couples to trust single guys. Don't apologise for your rant, we've all got different opinions and everyone has the right to express them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If they are honest in the inintal message then i will look st profile consider it (highly unlikely) but its better to be honest

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"If they are honest in the inintal message then i will look st profile consider it (highly unlikely) but its better to be honest

I've got no problem with people not wanting to meet someone who's "attached" that's their prerogative,i just think that if you're honest and say you're in a relationship then there's a better chance of meeting a kindred spirit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they are honest in the inintal message then i will look st profile consider it (highly unlikely) but its better to be honest

Excatly least give the person your messaging the option. But do we ever get the full picture

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"If they are honest in the inintal message then i will look st profile consider it (highly unlikely) but its better to be honest

Excatly least give the person your messaging the option. But do we ever get the full picture "

Probably not but speaking from a personal point of view if i was to meet someone i'd be honest and explain my situation.If someone doesn't like what i'm doing then we're obviously on different wavelengths and shouldn't meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

in the end we are all consenting adults who can read (not just with one hand lol)

we make our own decisions, and if people was honest maybe some of these attached people may be more successful

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"in the end we are all consenting adults who can read (not just with one hand lol)

we make our own decisions, and if people was honest maybe some of these attached people may be more successful

Exactly

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

Had something similar happen Friday but I found out before we met. Lied about his name and the girlfriend. Only found out as an app synced with my phone contacts and it showed a completely different name so looked him up on FB and there they were lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had something similar happen Friday but I found out before we met. Lied about his name and the girlfriend. Only found out as an app synced with my phone contacts and it showed a completely different name so looked him up on FB and there they were lol "

if he told u the truth would u have met him?

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By *ystical_InkedBBWWoman
over a year ago

somewhere in the Shire of Derby

if he told u the truth would u have met him?"

No I wouldn't have. I don't agree with it having been cheated on myself. Plus it causes way too mamy problems if the partner finds out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm with you, I won't play with married men or men with a partner knowingly and I've had a few try!

Not even just in fab life, one of my clients / hairdressing hit on me and he's just been married 6 weeks !

What is wrong with these men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm with you, I won't play with married men or men with a partner knowingly and I've had a few try!

Not even just in fab life, one of my clients / hairdressing hit on me and he's just been married 6 weeks !

What is wrong with these men

He's wondering if he's still got it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've never knowingly fucked a guy from Fab who was in a relationship.

Ok not strictly true. One guy was starting divorce proceedings (and proved it)... Keen?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t even like it when men say that their partner is ok with them being on here?

Really??

Even if we believe them not the sort of people who we want to be associated with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t even like it when men say that their partner is ok with them being on here?

Really??

Even if we believe them not the sort of people who we want to be associated with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is why we cynically assume everyone who can't accommodate is married/in a relationship regardless of the reasons stated in their profiles. Even though we generally meet at ours and we might miss out on genuinely single people it means there's very little chance of our meets being with people we don't want to play with. Hotel meets don't count as 'can accommodate' either."

When I used this site as a single woman I also had in my profile that I can't accomodate even though I was genuinely single. Simply because I live in foreign country on my own and as a single woman you never know what can happen. There was just one guy from fab in my flat before Cute and he messaged me a few months later that he wants to see me again and has been thinking about visiting me.I was scared as f...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People will lie to get what they want that's life, but most guys that can accommodate are single or separated, so if they cannot accommodate than don’t meet, that’s thevonly advice I can give you. John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not fond of them, much prefer Quavers, i mean what do fast cats have to do with cheese flavoured snacks anyway

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"People will lie to get what they want that's life, but most guys that can accommodate are single or separated, so if they cannot accommodate than don’t meet, that’s thevonly advice I can give you. John"

Nail on the head

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm totally honest on my profile about being attached but don't have my reasons why I'm on here but that and my age puts people off but I won't lie about either I'd prefer to be honest with a potential meet

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By *iWifeHappyLifeCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Not fond of them, much prefer Quavers, i mean what do fast cats have to do with cheese flavoured snacks anyway

See what you did there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"I'm totally honest on my profile about being attached but don't have my reasons why I'm on here but that and my age puts people off but I won't lie about either I'd prefer to be honest with a potential meet "

I don't think it's anybody else's business why you're on here. We don't explain why we are.

Our age puts people off too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

Do you know what cheating on a partner means?

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By *iWifeHappyLifeCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

I wouldn't judge anyone who isn't here with the knowledge/permission of their partner, that's their business. However I absolutely don't want to be complicit in it.

I have far more respect for someone being honest and saying they're cheating than someone who tries to lie about it.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!"

I understand that but choosing not to meet a guy because he's married isn't always a case of judging in a bad way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!"

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

Its about being open and honest! The truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here. "

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

Not if like us you married in a registry office.

You're being a little judgmental yourself here.

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By *pider-WomanWoman
over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

Maybe youre wife can answer that question more clearly for you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

Not if like us you married in a registry office.

You're being a little judgmental yourself here."

Not at all just trying to make a valid point.....sorry if it upsets folks

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

Not if like us you married in a registry office.

You're being a little judgmental yourself here.

Not at all just trying to make a valid point.....sorry if it upsets folks "

Doesn't upset us.

If you feel we're hypocrites, so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

I had nothing about not being a swinger or having a monogamous relationship in my vows. Just love, honour and cherish. Even if I did, it's not hypocrisy, it's abandoning your vows. You're still doing it with your partner's knowledge and consent. What about couples who are living in sin, or married in a registry office and didn't have monogamy in their vows?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

Not if like us you married in a registry office.

You're being a little judgmental yourself here.

Not at all just trying to make a valid point.....sorry if it upsets folks

Doesn't upset us.

If you feel we're hypocrites, so be it."

Doesn't upset me either, and I was cheated on.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

I understand that but choosing not to meet a guy because he's married isn't always a case of judging in a bad way.

Indeed!

I don't meet married men because I don't play nice and they try and impose restrictions. One man turned up with shower gel, deodorant and perfume he wanted me to use: his wife's brand, so I'd not leave a scent trail.

Yeah...right! Who needs that bollocks?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

Good to see you've got your head completely around the concept of swinging

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By *iWifeHappyLifeCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

"*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

We've just been speaking to a lovely lady who told us she was married before we went ahead and met. There are plenty of profiles where people are up front that they're here without the knowledge of their partner. It's not as absurd as you might think ¯\_

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By *iWifeHappyLifeCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

How is not meeting married men judgemental?

Married men may have there own reasons of being on the site, myself I’ve put it on my profile to avoid any lying.!!

Your partner doesn't know, which is why it's different to meeting a couple on here. They know. It's why they are here.

No not really if your married you took vows as well, or were they to let other guys into your relationships???? Smells of hypocrisy to me.

The debate isn't about people having sex or sexual contact with other people, it's about trust and respect. Swingers are open with their partners about what they're doing, they're often together at the time, it's a way to explore their sexualities and enjoy each other and other people.

Cheaters are breaking trust (whether a verbal promise of marriage or an unspoken promise of monogamy/fidelity) and keeping a secret from their partner, knowing it would hurt them and/or damage the relationship. Two very different things...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had."

What the...

Don't know whether to laugh out loud or cry:

"They'd lose their penis"

Eek! Damn!

For those that find it difficult to believe a man who won't/cannot accomodate at home can't be single... this bit is for you:

It is by choice because we don't want to. We don't have to. No need to justify or give reasons. I own my home in London and about to buy a property in the North, but I will still choose not to accomodate at home.

Some of us are real and genuine just like single women and take safety very seriously. Some of the stories you hear are very shocking! I know people who have had negative experiences, but you can't just move home!

We are out there folks.

Trust me or is it...

#nevertrustaheadlesssuit ??

No clue what was the point I was trying to make

I just hope nobody has lost their penis!!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

FS is the most judgemental site I have ever been on! Whatever you do, say or even fantasize about there will be someone here ready to judge you and condemn you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

Are you saying a threesome is wrong when couples don't allow married men into the mix?

Sounds a little like the green eyed monster is around.

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By *ammyharrogateWoman
over a year ago

Harrogate

After reading this post I use most of the ways of checking anyone who can’t accommodate I assume is married and if they won’t meet or send a face pic on here I avoid. I won’t meet married/attached men/women at all but as my profile says I won’t judge you for being on here I just won’t meet you

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had.

What the...

Don't know whether to laugh out loud or cry:

"They'd lose their penis"

Eek! Damn!

For those that find it difficult to believe a man who won't/cannot accomodate at home can't be single... this bit is for you:

We are out there folks.

Trust me or is it...

#nevertrustaheadlesssuit ??

No clue what was the point I was trying to make

I just hope nobody has lost their penis!!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Well that's the depth of feeling I have toward's cheaters! The truth I can work with,lies I can't,although even if I knew first I would never go there.

When I met if someone wouldn't accommodate me even though they could,I wouldn't accommodate them. Anyway back to sleep I hopefully go...

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had.

What the...

Don't know whether to laugh out loud or cry:

"They'd lose their penis"

Eek! Damn!

For those that find it difficult to believe a man who won't/cannot accomodate at home can't be single... this bit is for you:

We are out there folks.

Trust me or is it...

#nevertrustaheadlesssuit ??

No clue what was the point I was trying to make

I just hope nobody has lost their penis!!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Well that's the depth of feeling I have toward's cheaters! The truth I can work with,lies I can't,although even if I knew first I would never go there.

When I met if someone wouldn't accommodate me even though they could,I wouldn't accommodate them. Anyway back to sleep I hopefully go..."

Why have you stuck that of the back of my comment anyway,I know there's lots of reason's why men can't/won't accommodate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am single but rarely acco because i have my son at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Am single but rarely acco because i have my son at home."

some times its good to meet up on neutral place and see how it pans out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My partner doesn't know I'm on this site, but I do tell people I'm in a relationship when talking to them.

It does make organising a meet hard so that's probably why people lie about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I Don't accomadate purely because my son lives with me still.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It winds me up posts like this,

Loads of judgemental people( oh I won’t meet married men)

But there’s couples who would let another bloke fuck there wife......eh

So that’s not wrong but meeting a married man is...... I'll get off my soapbox now

Good to see you've got your head completely around the concept of swinging"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

Being on here and moaning about cheaters is like buying a Range Rover Sport and complaining about the mileage. This sight is literally full of men and women cheats apart from most of the cpls!

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

Its the lying and not allowing you the choice thats the worse thing and breaking your trust.

If those in relationships are honest,potential meets can decide if they want to get involved or not.

We know many men/women are hiding relationships,but some can deceive much better than others.

As i am now meeting alone again I'm very wary and if i get the slightest inkling somethings not right,I block.

Miss

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

"I'm with you, I won't play with married men or men with a partner knowingly and I've had a few try!

Not even just in fab life, one of my clients / hairdressing hit on me and he's just been married 6 weeks !

What is wrong with these men

Some men and women will cheat for the sake of it sadly,however good they have it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Annoyingly, when I was on a single guys profile, I had people accusing me of being a cheat (even people I'd never spoken to) simply because I couldn't accommodate.

The fact that I don't have my own place and live on a military base didn't come in to it apparently

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wouldn't say i judge anyone who cheats, ive been cheated on and im still very bitter about it so i hate cheating but wouldnt judge someone for it.

Me and my boyfriend have a verbal contract of what is allowed for example i could meet someone right now and aslong as i tell him and take pics it's okay. As soon as i keep a meet secret or lie it becomes cheating.

Im not fussed about cheaters on here but i openly say on my profile i wont meet cheats. I dont ever want to have a random womans heart breaking after finding out ive slept with her boyfriend & main point was i absolutely hate that lying about your relationship gives me absolutely no choice in wether or not i could end up in that situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not judgemental. I don't mind meeting married or attached men (or women). I do ask that they be honest upfront and most are (what's the point of lying). People cheat for reasons that are impossible for others to understand - circumstances, bad decisions, etc etc who am I to judge."

It seems there is a huge disparity of standards depending on whether you are a married man or woman.

Cheating isn't great and certainly not acceptable to the masses. However unacceptable, some reasons are more understandable than others, although perhaps impossible to fully understand as pointed out.

I might go the rest of my life with out the kind of intimacy that I am seeking but, I wont lie to get some one to fuck me. That is quite a despicable thing to do regardless of the other morals

surrounding the issue of cheating.

It's all about respect. I know it's difficult for some to believe or understand that any one cheating can have respect and, be honest and, be trusted but, some can. Life is not black and white.

Be honest about your situation and circumstances and give the other person the opportunity to make an informed choice as to what they are getting into.

There are lots of people here that don't judge or that are married and cheating themselves, there is no need to violate some one else's moral stance and make them feel the way that OP is feeling at the moment.

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By *ozy couple d lCouple
over a year ago

DROMORE

"Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

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i think this site is full of cheaters going off the replys we have had withheld numbers,dont ring me ill ring you etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people are being incredibly naive. If for some reason, a person feels the need to 'cheat' on a partner who is in one way or another important to them, why do you think they owe you the truth? A random stranger on sex site, whom they are meeting for 'no strings attached sex'!

Moreso when it will reduce their chances of getting a meet and potentially open them up to abuse and insults and general ridicule - esp. if they are guys (double standards, right). Quite illogical methinks. If they do, kudos to them. If they don' t and you find out later, you have a right to be pissed but don't be surprised!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think people are being incredibly naive. If for some reason, a person feels the need to 'cheat' on a partner who is in one way or another important to them, why do you think they owe you the truth? A random stranger on sex site, whom they are meeting for 'no strings attached sex'!

It is only double standards if the same people condemn married men and condone married women cheating. This is, for the most part, NOT the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems there is a huge disparity of standards depending on whether you are a married man or woman.

I might go the rest of my life with out the kind of intimacy that I am seeking but, I wont lie to get some one to fuck me. That is quite a despicable thing to do regardless of the other morals

surrounding the issue of cheating.

It's all about respect. I know it's difficult for some to believe or understand that any one cheating can have respect and, be honest and, be trusted but, some can. Life is not black and white.

Be honest about your situation and circumstances and give the other person the opportunity to make an informed choice as to what they are getting into.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is about mutual trust and understanding with partner s

This is supposed to be a swinging site

Most people just use it as a fuck anyone site!!

Not what I thought swinging was supposed to be

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinging is about mutual trust and understanding with partner s

This is supposed to be a swinging site

Most people just use it as a fuck anyone site!!

Not what I thought swinging was supposed to be "

I disagree.

I don’t think most do use it as a fuck anyone site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But swinging involves trusting and sharing with partner s??

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

"Swinging is about mutual trust and understanding with partner s

This is supposed to be a swinging site

Most people just use it as a fuck anyone site!!

Not what I thought swinging was supposed to be

I disagree.

I don’t think most do use it as a fuck anyone site."

I think lots of people join with that intention and are disappointed to find that isn't what it's about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wouldn't knowingly meet people in relationships. I don't know what the aftermath is and being single I don't need to.

The last 2 single men were married or in serious relationships. I found out on fb and sent pics of wifey.

But I've had a fleeting coffee with a married man and listened. I can understand on both sides why they stay. No one wants to Start again at 40. It's draining. So for discreet sex elsewhere is it worth the damage. The family break up. The hurt to the partner if they know. Ignorance is bliss to some people.

Personally I want it all. A friend, the sex so I choose single men.

We are sold an impossible dream which is nigh on hard to keep. We are told we can have it all but this site clearly demonstrate we cannot.

Hence the married's seeking discrete fun, the singles seeking singles. It's definitely thought provoking.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

there is that..... and to turn that up an notch i thing that being on a swinging site and cheating is much more cold and calculated than just going out in town on any given night and having a one night stand....

one i one night stand you could for example, blame alcohol, or it was just flirting that went went way too far/heat of the moment type things...

or an escort where you just go/pay money/quick process....

but for swinging, you have to think about setting up a profile, then the words for that profile, then pictures, then comeing back time after time, posting people ect ect ect.... a much longer process..... a much longer cold and calculated process....

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By *offee with MilkCouple
over a year ago

Over the roundabout and then turn right.

Coffee chooses not to meet alone, but is happy for me to do so sometimes.

To those who don't meet attached men, does this count?

What if you get to speak to her to confirm it's OK?

Indeed, how would a single guy be able to prove he is being honest? Perhaps he is a single dad with children at home.

Skepticism is understood but often unfair.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

Start telling guys that you don't mind if they are cheating, that it could be a turn on.

They'll all be telling you they are married then.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

As people have alluded to, it's a bit bizarre expecting people who lie to their partners to be honest with potential casual sex meets.

From experience, most alleged single men on here are lying about being attached. Women tend to be honest when they are attached as there will still be a queue of men wanting to fuck them

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By *loppsyWoman
over a year ago

marlow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Start telling guys that you don't mind if they are cheating, that it could be a turn on.

They'll all be telling you they are married then."

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By *ivedancerMan
over a year ago

Horsham

and for this very reason I have a couples profile and verifications and speak plain about my own lifestyle choices. It is however an uphill struggle against so many bad actors in the field. I have met one or two women whom have also been cheating and a few straight guys who declare their straightness to the max on a profile but suddenly wonder if I would be interested in them. There is a reason we call it a sex drive; because not all drivers are responsible when trying to get in the sac.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I once had a lovely lunch date with a married man (the only guy i met from FL). He was so surprised when i told him I'd not be meeting him again, even before he paid the bill. But hey, that's what you get when you start the social as single and then slip up and reveal your true marital status

I felt no guilt.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

_/¯ "

You miss my point.

Being upfront about your situation is one thing. It's the people who expect honesty from dishonest people I find amusing.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

Not just me then!

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

I cannot see what you are going to loose if you are open and honest.

I can however, see what you are going to loose if you are not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and there they were lol "

Something similar happened to us.. Been messaging a guy for months he was working in lanzarote and we were going on holiday.. Gave him a Contact number as Internet signal was hit at miss... Met him at work then arranged a sexy meet the next night... He had to leave early as someone called in sick at work and he Had to cover... All seemed legit.. Had a fantastic night and chatted afterwards.... Months later he popped up on my Facebook friends I mite know .. Wife and kids all happy in the pic... It took some swallowing as we were well and truly duped and would never have gone there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

and there they were lol

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iv had it in the past and u will never stop people who do it because they can and have no remorse

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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

Nail on the head

Not always true though. I knew a divorced fella he had kids at home living with him.

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

Not just me then!

Exactly, we’re all different, there will be single guys who don’t understand why a husband/partner would happily swing with their other half, it’s each to their own so let’s not judge anyone. I don’t see anywhere in the rules where it says “ couples only”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I played a game on here the other day. You're familiar with the sort of thing! Look at the person above profile and say something nice.

The profile I looked at very early on states he is married, doesn't give a reason but also states he is willing to explain if any one wishes to know. My profile is very similar except I go further and explain my situation. And if you read ALL of the OP's posts, that's what she wants, the person involved to declare their situation so others can make an informed decision.

As far as the rest of the debate has unfolded, it all seems very cut and dry. All married people that play away are nasty and immoral and incapable of any level of honesty...end of!

There wont be any marrieds whose partner is doing 5 years for fraud.

Know one here who's partner has suffered life changing injuries due to motorbike accident.

No one who's partner has had a stroke and now has locked in syndrome.

No one who's partner has limiting mental health issues.

Or, may be, that they themselves have a sex addiction problem that they are trying to get help for.

Certainly, none of those nasty immoral people will be spending a large portion of their lives loving and caring for their partners and, honouring 99% of their marriage vows when their partners are suffering from any of the above.

Or...may be not all people that cheat are the same. There will always be some that are just here because they cant keep their genitals in their underwear and, will go to any lengths to get a fuck but...

May be some of them can have morals and be honest, even if they aren't being honest to their own partners. It's a very complicated world. Perhaps that homeless person you passed the other day is a self inflicted casualty of drugs or, perhaps they were once a highly functioning member of society or an ex-service man that has given up his mental health to serve and protect us.

If it makes your life easier to simplify things that's fine.

If you are married...say you are married and give people like the OP the choice to live their life the way they wish to live it. If you don't declare your situation...you are a fucking snake!

In answer to the question, Why have we joined a swinging site?

The first site I joined was for people that wanted a marital affair, thought I'd find others in a similar situation to myself, turns out it was four or five sites lumped together and, guess what...it's full of singles that don't want to meet married people and spend a lot of time bitching about them! Go figure!!

Also, most people on other types of site tend to be looking for a little more than just sex. We already have all the other stuff at home remember. So swingers seem a good option. They are looking for casual fun and intimacy without the emotional connection,just like us!

If you have shown a little empathy and understanding and have been prepared to reserve judgement, well done.

If you have pigeon holed and tarred us nasty immoral cheaters with the same brush, you do yourself a disservice. If you want to judge, make sure you have all the relevant information to hand. We don't want you to change you moral stance and tell us that what we are doing is ok, we just want you to read our profiles and, if you don't like it, move on. It's what most of us do when we read "No married men".

I hope no one here has to suffer seeing a life partner end up in prison, have a stroke, end up with mental health issues or be involved in a life changing accident but, if they did how long would you go without sex or, any physical intimacy from another human being before you became a nasty immoral person? 1year? 2years? 3years?

If you you are married...don't be a bigger cunt than you already are, just declare! Hopefully, those that don't approve will leave you alone!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

Just a thought.. Consensual sex is all about being in possession of the facts and making the decision to have sex. If someone tells you that they are single and then after a while you find out they are married and cheating, isn't that technically assault or worse!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just a thought.. Consensual sex is all about being in possession of the facts and making the decision to have sex. If someone tells you that they are single and then after a while you find out they are married and cheating, isn't that technically assault or worse!? "

Totally agree and I am sure you would have a fairly good case if you wanted to take it to the courts. Personally I'll stick with declaring my situation and giving the other person the freedom of choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Marriage and love is more than sex: u should love and respect someone enough not to seek just sexual gratification with total strangers whatever happens to your partner!!

U say you have all the rest of a relationship: isn’t that enough?

Men just use excuse s for sex: that they need it?? What about your partner s needs?? To have someone that they trust and doesn’t sneak behind their back with strangers!!

If they are in prison you should love them enough to wait!!!

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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I’m a little out of the norm, in that it doesn’t bother me. Their life, their shit, theirs to handle. Lying to you is a bit low though (see my double standards here?

) I always tell any potential meets that if they have an unwitting partner to tell me up front so that I can plan accordingly. It makes more sense that way.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I agree with this some people will say its dramatic but its removing my human right to choice. Yes im choosing what i do with my body but im not making a true informed decision and im being set up with a risk of someone one day finding out and causing me grief which is not what i signed up for on this site.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I played a game on here the other day. You're familiar with the sort of thing! Look at the person above profile and say something nice.

As far as the rest of the debate has unfolded, it all seems very cut and dry. All married people that play away are nasty and immoral and incapable of any level of honesty...end of!

There wont be any marrieds whose partner is doing 5 years for fraud.

Know one here who's partner has suffered life changing injuries due to motorbike accident.

No one who's partner has had a stroke and now has locked in syndrome.

No one who's partner has limiting mental health issues.

Or, may be, that they themselves have a sex addiction problem that they are trying to get help for.

If it makes your life easier to simplify things that's fine.

If you are married...say you are married and give people like the OP the choice to live their life the way they wish to live it. If you don't declare your situation...you are a fucking snake!

In answer to the question, Why have we joined a swinging site?

If you have shown a little empathy and understanding and have been prepared to reserve judgement, well done.

If you you are married...don't be a bigger cunt than you already are, just declare! Hopefully, those that don't approve will leave you alone! "

I completely agree that everyone has their reasons and although i dont agree that it should happen and wouldn't do it myself that doesn't mean I'm gonna slate people for doing it i havent lived anyones life other than my own. All i ask is that im not bought into a situation that could potentially hurt another person. I dont expect more honesty and stuff than the partner as yeah i would be just a fuck but sadly many men and women on this site think more with their genitals than they do with their heart or brain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I played a game on here the other day. You're familiar with the sort of thing! Look at the person above profile and say something nice.

As far as the rest of the debate has unfolded, it all seems very cut and dry. All married people that play away are nasty and immoral and incapable of any level of honesty...end of!

There wont be any marrieds whose partner is doing 5 years for fraud.

Know one here who's partner has suffered life changing injuries due to motorbike accident.

No one who's partner has had a stroke and now has locked in syndrome.

No one who's partner has limiting mental health issues.

Or, may be, that they themselves have a sex addiction problem that they are trying to get help for.

If it makes your life easier to simplify things that's fine.

If you are married...say you are married and give people like the OP the choice to live their life the way they wish to live it. If you don't declare your situation...you are a fucking snake!

In answer to the question, Why have we joined a swinging site?

If you have shown a little empathy and understanding and have been prepared to reserve judgement, well done.

If you you are married...don't be a bigger cunt than you already are, just declare! Hopefully, those that don't approve will leave you alone! "
well said and covered the possibility of situations and i agree with the bit about the mental and health and physical problem. Completely i think it's the happy attached people in relationships but don't have the respect or enough strength to get out of the relationship between the two off them or in a sexless and no love relaship but still together for other reasons.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But at the end off the day if you love your partner and really love and care u would never do it. Or cross your mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s really hurtful and if you have all the other stuff why? Risk another great relationship just for sexual gratification??

Much more to relationship s and love than sex

Love loyalty trust and respect and honesty and no secrets!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s really hurtful and if you have all the other stuff why? Risk another great relationship just for sexual gratification??

Much more to relationship s and love than sex

Love loyalty trust and respect and honesty and no secrets!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry i know everyone is into their own thing and fair play to them but i just need a rant..

I absolutely HATE when i find out that someone who i have met and i thought was single is actually in a relationship and theyve cheated on their partner with me!

I have been cheated on and it kills and ive specifically told everyone that i do not want to be involved with people who are in relationships and are doing it behind their partners backs!

Obviously swinging is open but theres a difference between swinging with your partners permission and being a cheat!

Sorry i just needed a little rant i really hope i dont cause an argument. I feel better now

I think more it more likely that you did want to stir the waters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I played a game on here the other day. You're familiar with the sort of thing! Look at the person above profile and say something nice.

As far as the rest of the debate has unfolded, it all seems very cut and dry. All married people that play away are nasty and immoral and incapable of any level of honesty...end of!

There wont be any marrieds whose partner is doing 5 years for fraud.

Know one here who's partner has suffered life changing injuries due to motorbike accident.

No one who's partner has had a stroke and now has locked in syndrome.

No one who's partner has limiting mental health issues.

Or, may be, that they themselves have a sex addiction problem that they are trying to get help for.

If it makes your life easier to simplify things that's fine.

If you are married...say you are married and give people like the OP the choice to live their life the way they wish to live it. If you don't declare your situation...you are a fucking snake!

In answer to the question, Why have we joined a swinging site?

If you have shown a little empathy and understanding and have been prepared to reserve judgement, well done.

If you you are married...don't be a bigger cunt than you already are, just declare! Hopefully, those that don't approve will leave you alone! "

But. The vows of marriage cover for better for worse. In sickness and health.... etc. So. The point your raising is not really covering the vows made.

I was in a bad marriage. I won't detail why. But I would never have cheated. Not even in the worse moments. I won't declare my Husband's business. But until I left that man. I kept the vows I made. Regardless of anything he deserved the pronises I made him.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Nail on the head

Not always true though. I knew a divorced fella he had kids at home living with him. "

I don't think anyone is saying that everybody that can't accommodate is married, rather that married people can't accommodate. There is a difference.

Filter out the "can't accommodate" people and you get rid of the cheaters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But. The vows of marriage cover for better for worse. In sickness and health.... etc. So. The point your raising is not really covering the vows made.

For better, for worse,

Till death us do part?

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

Nail on the head

Not always true though. I knew a divorced fella he had kids at home living with him.

I don't think anyone is saying that everybody that can't accommodate is married, rather that married people can't accommodate. There is a difference.

Filter out the "can't accommodate" people and you get rid of the cheaters

Ok so has the jury decided all cheaters be burned at the stake, I never realised this was a couple only site... double standards ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love cheaters it's what swinging is all about, so nasty knowing that the sex is so illicit.

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By *heislanderMan
over a year ago

cheshunt

"We love cheaters it's what swinging is all about, so nasty knowing that the sex is so illicit."

????????

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Theres a difference between cheaters and swibging if i had an affair i couldn't turn round and say its okay i was swinging. Ive said a few times im not judging cheats just leave me out of it and let me opt out of being involved in that situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has anyone been caught by the cheaters partner,

We nearly were, we were chatting to a guy for about 2 weeks , we organised a social meet to go further if all went well.

I sat (Mrs m) waiting in the corner of agreed bar it was busy too , then mr I have been single for over 2 years arrived,just as he caught my eye a woman came in screaming at him with another woman shouting you lying cheating bstard , to the total amusement to everyone their he left sharpish

Well after that close encounters I left .

Weird never heard from him again !!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Has anyone been caught by the cheaters partner,

We nearly were, we were chatting to a guy for about 2 weeks , we organised a social meet to go further if all went well.

Well after that close encounters I left .

Weird never heard from him again !!!"

Thats what puts me off, ive caught a partner cheating and i went completely mental! im not proud of what i done to the girl after so i just want to avoid that kinda reaction and not inflict the pain that ive had inflicted on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't care, even if they said that they were not single. I'm not there to judge or be judged.

In the eye of the wider population, our sexual lifestyle would be considered degenerative and dysfunctional.

I say, I'm coming for a good time.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"We love cheaters it's what swinging is all about, so nasty knowing that the sex is so illicit."

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

This is not me but just playing devils advocate here!

How about married guys who don’t get any sex at home but love there wife’s and don’t wanna leave them for lack of one part of there life?

Would you not see this as a service to him and his wife keeping both of them happy?

What she don’t know don’t hurt her and he’s happy she’s happy?

Trust me I know a few married guys in this situation!

And lets face it sex and a full blown I love you affair are two different things!!

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

"This is not me but just playing devils advocate here!

How about married guys who don’t get any sex at home but love there wife’s and don’t wanna leave them for lack of one part of there life?

Would you not see this as a service to him and his wife keeping both of them happy?

What she don’t know don’t hurt her and he’s happy she’s happy?

Trust me I know a few married guys in this situation!

And lets face it sex and a full blown I love you affair are two different things!!"

I see what you're saying

However if/when she does find out it will hurt.People are not always as clever as they think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im smelling all the self-righteous bullshit is unbearable.

A load of little Angels

Flying around. ??????

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

"We love cheaters it's what swinging is all about, so nasty knowing that the sex is so illicit."

Not for many its not

Its about openess and honesty

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"This is not me but just playing devils advocate here!

How about married guys who don’t get any sex at home but love there wife’s and don’t wanna leave them for lack of one part of there life?

Would you not see this as a service to him and his wife keeping both of them happy?

What she don’t know don’t hurt her and he’s happy she’s happy?

Trust me I know a few married guys in this situation!

And lets face it sex and a full blown I love you affair are two different things!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After being on sites like this for a while I would find it hard to be trusting in a relationship again.

The majority of men on my local feed are married / attatched.

And I've seen a few of them out and about with their families.

I'm not judging - but I would hate to be the partner who got cheated on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had.

What the...

Don't know whether to laugh out loud or cry:

"They'd lose their penis"

Eek! Damn!

For those that find it difficult to believe a man who won't/cannot accomodate at home can't be single... this bit is for you:

We are out there folks.

Trust me or is it...

#nevertrustaheadlesssuit ??

No clue what was the point I was trying to make

I just hope nobody has lost their penis!!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Well that's the depth of feeling I have toward's cheaters! The truth I can work with,lies I can't,although even if I knew first I would never go there.

When I met if someone wouldn't accommodate me even though they could,I wouldn't accommodate them. Anyway back to sleep I hopefully go...

Why have you stuck that of the back of my comment anyway,I know there's lots of reason's why men can't/won't accommodate?"

I know you know that. It was not aimed at you, but I didn't want to do different posts. Thought I get everything in while I was in here.

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over a year ago

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I feel the same,thankfully I haven't found out anything afterward's. They'd lose their penis if I had.

What the...

Don't know whether to laugh out loud or cry:

"They'd lose their penis"

Eek! Damn!

For those that find it difficult to believe a man who won't/cannot accomodate at home can't be single... this bit is for you:

We are out there folks.

Trust me or is it...

#nevertrustaheadlesssuit ??

No clue what was the point I was trying to make

I just hope nobody has lost their penis!!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Well that's the depth of feeling I have toward's cheaters! The truth I can work with,lies I can't,although even if I knew first I would never go there.

When I met if someone wouldn't accommodate me even though they could,I wouldn't accommodate them. Anyway back to sleep I hopefully go...

Why have you stuck that of the back of my comment anyway,I know there's lots of reason's why men can't/won't accommodate?

I know you know that. It was not aimed at you, but I didn't want to do different posts. Thought I get everything in while I was in here."

That's ok then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But. The vows of marriage cover for better for worse. In sickness and health.... etc. So. The point your raising is not really covering the vows made.

For better, for worse,

Till death us do part?

He broke his vows before I left. Marriage does not cover abuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean you contradict yourself as to why you do it.

Love honour obey. In sickness and in health. Because your 'openly cheating' you are trying to preach on my marriage which no longer exists. When the other side breaks vows, it's not a real marriage.

My husband was abusive, it took real balls to leave. So death do us part as long as you love honour and obey. He threatened all kinds. He carried out none. But still in the hardest years I would never cheat. Your cheating yourself.

Had you read my earlier post and seen I understand both sides you will realise you've gone personal to justify your cheating. The married people I met on socials never lashed at me for their wrong doing. I just listened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

Exactly. Casual sex is by its very nature casual, meaning you won't know that much about the people you have sex with. If you have strong moral qualms about the lifestyles of your sexual partners, swinging isn't for you.

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

So that's, the students, live with parents, single dads, a carer or someone who has overtly nosey nabours put of the question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People keep using the same yardstick for everyone despite the fact that people are different, imperfect, individual circumstances also completely different and marriage a whole lot of work...

I know or know of guys who won't cheat even at gun point but are abusive in other ways, know women who cannot fathom the idea of cheating but definitely aren't loyal; people who cheat or have cheated but would die for their families.

Some things come easier to some than others - sexual fidelity is one. This cheating issue is such a big deal because of the nature of fab and nothing people say will change others cos in the end, everyone has their reasons for doing the things they do... Peace people, live and let live.

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over a year ago

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

I agree but yeah disagree with your statement, this site takes all sorts. People will have their like and dislikes the OP would not like to sleep with a cheater as much as I would not like to walk into a strip club. People have preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

Not really. This site caters for all. I still get meets. I'm just selective. So are other people

Bareback is risky. Nowhere does it say I won't meet bi men either.

I have.

For the sake of sex with people on a swinging site bareback for an STI. I've read male profiles won't do it either. Your being very assumptive. I just like a clear conscience.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find most men on here are liars .maybe odd one truthful.i believe nobody until they prove they are single .There is signs is just learning to take notice of them .most would fuck anyone married or single .longer im on fab the more i dislike men and there morals. No doubt will be women the same .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find most men on here are liars .maybe odd one truthful.i believe nobody until they prove they are single .There is signs is just learning to take notice of them .most would fuck anyone married or single .

longer im on fab the more i dislike men and there morals. No doubt will be women the same .

A lot of people say that the creepy men on these sites don't put women off men.

I say they sometimes do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been put off men and im starting too think single men on here are single for a reason.I could write a book

longer im on fab the more i dislike men and there morals. No doubt will be women the same .

A lot of people say that the creepy men on these sites don't put women off men.

I say they sometimes do. "

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

Not really. This site caters for all. I still get meets. I'm just selective. So are other people

Bareback is risky. Nowhere does it say I won't meet bi men either.

I have.

For the sake of sex with people on a swinging site bareback for an STI. I've read male profiles won't do it either. Your being very assumptive. I just like a clear conscience.

Her point is that because you are meeting people for casual sex, you can never actually tell if they are being truthful when someone says they are single, don't do bareback, aren't bi etc etc.

People will lie to get a fuck and your chances of finding them out are slight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Going to give a example of message i got on here yesterday .man messaged me and i replied sorry your not what im looking for .he replied your probably fat and ugly anyway .is this behaviour really necessary.I bet women get this all the time .Then men wonder why women give them a hard time .most men give women abuse name calling and its a disgrace .

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By *he fab twoCouple
over a year ago

brentwood

"After being on sites like this for a while I would find it hard to be trusting in a relationship again.

The majority of men on my local feed are married / attatched.

And I've seen a few of them out and about with their families.

I'm not judging - but I would hate to be the partner who got cheated on

Fuck your men right and we don’t go anywhere

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

yes it is.... if it something where you would not have made the same consented decision based on the facts that were not given to you..... then yes it is sexual assault!!!

they use the same law as if you have hiv or hep b and you don't disclose that to a partner before sleeping with them....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I mean you contradict yourself as to why you do it.

Love honour obey. In sickness and in health. Because your 'openly cheating' you are trying to preach on my marriage which no longer exists. When the other side breaks vows, it's not a real marriage.

Pointing out those two vows wasn't meant as a personal attack and, if that's the way you saw it, I apologise! I was just interested why anyone whose marriage has broken down would be so vociferous and have such strong opinions about anothers.

I am sorry you had to go through the abuse that you did and hope that you have now found happiness!

Sex and intimacy is some thing that is clearly an important part of your life or you wouldn't be here.

If however, you had found yourself in a good marriage but, something terrible happened to your partner which prevented you from having sex/making love while you where both in your early forties and, you can honestly say with your hand on your heart that you would go the next 20 odd years without sex (and it's very easy to say and judge when you're not living it)...All I can say is that you are a better person than most and, certainly better than me!

I have spoken with my wife, she doesn't approve but, wouldn't blame me if I slept with some one else. She doesn't want to know about it though. If the tables were turned, she doesn't know if she could go without for that long.

I don't see that as having permission so I state it on my profile, which is what the original post was about. People that are attached but pretend they aren't to get some one to have sex with them.

I am not trying to justify mine or any one else's behaviour. You are right it is wrong. I just think there are varying degrees of wrong and that situations should be looked at in colour and not black and white.

You say you listened and understood both sides...I am not entirely convinced you understand 100%, I think you have to live something to understand to that extent. The scenarios I listed are very different to your own experience of marriage.

In an ideal world I would hope that no one would lie to you or anyone else to get a quick fuck.

In an ideal world people wouldn't abuse each other or have to go through any of the things I have listed or, anything any one else can come up with or imagine.

I hope you will accept my apology and believe that nothing personal was meant and, that what was said was to try and open up the debate a little and to find out more about where your stance was coming from.

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Everyone will always try and justify everything they do.

It's human nature.

Whether it's justifying drinking a whole bottle of wine - or lying to a loved one.

Unless you develop a freindship with someone where you are part of each others lives - how can you ever be sure they're telling you the truth?

If you are the kind of person that doesn't want to sleep with bi men or attatched people or people that have bareback sex etc ...

Then it's best you don't meet anyone.

Not really. This site caters for all. I still get meets. I'm just selective. So are other people

Bareback is risky. Nowhere does it say I won't meet bi men either.

I have.

For the sake of sex with people on a swinging site bareback for an STI. I've read male profiles won't do it either. Your being very assumptive. I just like a clear conscience.

Her point is that because you are meeting people for casual sex, you can never actually tell if they are being truthful when someone says they are single, don't do bareback, aren't bi etc etc.

People will lie to get a fuck and your chances of finding them out are slight. "

Exactly

My post wasn't pointing the finger at anyone or judging anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No matter how good sex is with a man .He will always be looking for someone who will be better .

My ex left me for another women .he then wanted be back ,but i didnt want him back .was brought up too give away my used toys too the less unfortunate

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Has anyone been caught by the cheaters partner,

no.... but i have seen the pain of what a cheating partner does....

I always tell the story, but it always kills the thread if i do! so i'll save it for post 175

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By *OR THE WIFES PLEASUREMan
over a year ago

plymouth

Alot of peeps going around with blinkers on lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some single people like myself can't accommodate due to living in shared accommodation etc. You do actually get cheaters who can accommodate on here.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

yes it is.... if it something where you would not have made the same consented decision based on the facts that were not given to you..... then yes it is sexual assault!!!

they use the same law as if you have hiv or hep b and you don't disclose that to a partner before sleeping with them....

As a lawyer, I really have to step in as I am afraid that what you say is nonsense.

In simple terms some deceptions will negate consent to sex and some won't. Lying about your marital status definitely doesn't negate consent.

This is very important as you are effectively telling people they have committed crimes when they haven't.

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By *mo-amas-amatMan
over a year ago

brighton

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By *mo-amas-amatMan
over a year ago

brighton

yes it is.... if it something where you would not have made the same consented decision based on the facts that were not given to you..... then yes it is sexual assault!!!

they use the same law as if you have hiv or hep b and you don't disclose that to a partner before sleeping with them....

As a lawyer, I really have to step in as I am afraid that what you say is nonsense.

In simple terms some deceptions will negate consent to sex and some won't. Lying about your marital status definitely doesn't negate consent.

This is very important as you are effectively telling people they have committed crimes when they haven't.

'As a lawyer....' these words do instill

A sense of deception (large bill).

Mens Rea? Not here,

For on Fab I do fear

Novus Actus Interveniens....The Pill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am pretty sure that you can't claim assault if it turns out the guy who you shagged last night turns out not to be an astronaught fire fighter either.

Though trading standards may be interested in false declaration of willy size

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By *mokes n MirrorsCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth and Newcastle (sometimes)

I think you'll find that 'A cynical assumption' is by no means a theory. It's just that after several people not turning out who they purported to be we became much more cynical and less trusting of what people write on their profiles and in messages. We don't judge or comment on the reasons people can't accommodate but just use it as another filter.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no!

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By *rince Charming 69Man
over a year ago

Loughborough

I am single, unattached, and live on my own in my own comfy house.

A nice friendly, fun guy.

So if any of you lovely ladies want to meet up for uncomplicated, lovely fun.....

Then it would be great to hear from you!

Jack xxx

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By *oghunter33Woman
over a year ago

on the hill NordWest of

My cynical assumption is that there are many attached peeps out there that have alternative accommodation available to them if needed. Also the more righteous you are the more you're being lied at.

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By *ancs MinxWoman
over a year ago

Burnley

"*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

Totally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no! "

Weird people can turn up at your house at any time of day or night when they know where you live.

They can't just randomly show up at your fanny if you met them in a hotel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes happened to me to met him several times believing that he was single

True was he was married the lying tawt

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no!

Weird people can turn up at your house at any time of day or night when they know where you live.

They can't just randomly show up at your fanny if you met them in a hotel.

Shush you

. Even so it's still daft to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no!

It's respect for my kid. It's her home too.

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over a year ago

"*Chuckles at the absurdity of some of these comments*

Do people truly expect honesty from liars and cheats? Delusional or what. Hello...if a married person is going to lie to their partner they sure as hell aren't going to be honest with a casual fuck!

yes this has made me chuckle too. Personally I think if you meet people on a swingers site you can't demand honesty. I feel so lucky I have someone who is on the sane wavelength as me and is wanting the same out of our sex life.

We don't look to get involved with drama but definitely don't judge x

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I always find it slightly amusing when people say they won't have strangers in their home. Strangers in your fanny yeah no problem,strangers in your home heaven's no!

It's respect for my kid. It's her home too. "

But you wouldn't bring anyone back if your daughter was there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The last post is to just say .....

People on the internet tell fibs

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