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"My biggest tip to the guys would be once you've started a conversation and are getting somewhere pay attention. The minute I feel I'm battling for a reply is the minute I decide I've lost interest in that person. " Good point.... Well they could always offer you a flake | |||
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"Be truthful Reliable Sociable Looking good Clean Fuck like a trojan horse "Fuck like a trojan horse is post meet...lol | |||
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"Be truthful Reliable Sociable Looking good Clean Fuck like a trojan horse
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Ooops our bad... lol "Lol Humour is key...and not to take anything personally | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys is to make me laugh. Anyone can have or say the stats, or send a boring message. But the ones that catch my attention and that I'm most likely to respond to are the ones with humor. " That said, the most amusing man in the world wouldn't be able to "laugh me" into bed if I didn't fancy him. There's common misconception amongst men that telling a few jokes is all they need | |||
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"Don't rely on Fab to get you meets, but use it to enhance your other activities such as clubs and socials. Look to make friends, rather than just a fuck. The best swinging is when you look at the sex as just an added bonus to having good mates." Quality over quantity everytime | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys would be once you've started a conversation and are getting somewhere pay attention. The minute I feel I'm battling for a reply is the minute I decide I've lost interest in that person. " well said | |||
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"Be truthful Reliable Sociable Looking good Clean Fuck like a trojan horse "Yes yes yes yes and ooh god yes | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys is to make me laugh. Anyone can have or say the stats, or send a boring message. But the ones that catch my attention and that I'm most likely to respond to are the ones with humor. That said, the most amusing man in the world wouldn't be able to "laugh me" into bed if I didn't fancy him. There's common misconception amongst men that telling a few jokes is all they need" This is true . But I have had men I was not sure about convenience me to meet then for a coffee, because I was attracted to there personally and those have sometimes worked out well ... Which brings me to my next tip. .. treat everyone as an individual.. listen to what they want/need/like ! Communication is key! | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys is to make me laugh. Anyone can have or say the stats, or send a boring message. But the ones that catch my attention and that I'm most likely to respond to are the ones with humor. That said, the most amusing man in the world wouldn't be able to "laugh me" into bed if I didn't fancy him. There's common misconception amongst men that telling a few jokes is all they need This is true . But I have had men I was not sure about convenience me to meet then for a coffee, because I was attracted to there personally and those have sometimes worked out well ... Which brings me to my next tip. .. treat everyone as an individual.. listen to what they want/need/like ! Communication is key! " Exactly...just because you are on a swinging site does not mean same courteous polite respectful rules dont apply.....think i bave said that right | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys is to make me laugh. Anyone can have or say the stats, or send a boring message. But the ones that catch my attention and that I'm most likely to respond to are the ones with humor. That said, the most amusing man in the world wouldn't be able to "laugh me" into bed if I didn't fancy him. There's common misconception amongst men that telling a few jokes is all they need This is true . But I have had men I was not sure about convenience me to meet then for a coffee, because I was attracted to there personally and those have sometimes worked out well ... Which brings me to my next tip. .. treat everyone as an individual.. listen to what they want/need/like ! Communication is key! Exactly...just because you are on a swinging site does not mean same courteous polite respectful rules dont apply.....think i bave said that right" Yes social skills are as important on here as anywhere else - probably more so actually | |||
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"My biggest tip to the guys would be once you've started a conversation and are getting somewhere pay attention. The minute I feel I'm battling for a reply is the minute I decide I've lost interest in that person. well said " agree it could be the ppl using phones that miss the chat | |||
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"The Fab 'Holy Trinity'; Be over 6ft tall; Be under 45 years old; Be able to accommodate. "Ha ha ha have to disagree on all 3 points... | |||
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"Don’t be a dick.or a nob! Or a bell end" Or a hampton wick | |||
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"The Fab 'Holy Trinity'; Be over 6ft tall; Be under 45 years old; Be able to accommodate.
Ha ha ha have to disagree on all 3 points..." | |||
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"The Fab 'Holy Trinity'; Be over 6ft tall; Be under 45 years old; Be able to accommodate.
Ha ha ha have to disagree on all 3 points...
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"The Fab 'Holy Trinity'; Be over 6ft tall; Be under 45 years old; Be able to accommodate.
Ha ha ha have to disagree on all 3 points...
Us old ugly shrek lookalikes who are 4'11 would always disagree"I once received a face pic request, and warned them that I look like 'a hungover Shrek chewing a wasp covered in Marmite'. I got a laugh but no further messages  | |||
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"Be yourself. Just bcz you're behind a screen,doesn't make it okay to be a dick,even though you may have 10 dick pictures from every conceivable angle lol. Women. All men aren't the same and not all will fall at your feet in awe "  | |||
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"Be yourself. Just bcz you're behind a screen,doesn't make it okay to be a dick,even though you may have 10 dick pictures from every conceivable angle lol. Women. All men aren't the same and not all will fall at your feet in awe
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"Don't take it personally if someone is adamant on a social. Respect the fact the person has their reasons for doing so. If things are going well in messages, they offer their kik for example. Don't make the first fucking message "show me your clunge"
Or do... but expect a block!"If you speak enough b4 kik then you'll be able to tell if that's what they're about ha | |||
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"1. Go to a club -Not always great for a single guy, unless you choose a 'greedy girl' type event where single guys are actually wanted. 2. Go to a social -Better than trying a club for sure. 3. Dont be a dick -In any aspect of life, don't be a dick. " | |||
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"Christ reading this makes me feel a little sorry for the guys of fab!!! Do this, do that.... My advice read the profile and don't be a fucking wierdo!!!" Its not that bad...but some people do need help...its the caring side of fabs x | |||
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"Don't put "x" in the subject line and "Hi" as the message. If you cannot be bothered why should I? "I never know what to put in subject lines.. What's the best ones you have had so far? | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works "Could not be further from the truth. A judgement that misses the sarcastic humour elememt of this post as well making some sweeping assumptions....interesting | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works "Bollocks! Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it. What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another. Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works "I agree with the 3 points. That is all lol. Wish I was tall haha | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
"No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks. This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up. | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up."I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have. | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have."Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway. The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability. | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability. "Again you dont get it.....not all of us are prolific hardened swingers and just dabble when time arises. Best not to prejudge...if you are.happy with what you are doing then good on you...but not for everyone. For some quality outweighs quantity. | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Again you dont get it.....not all of us are prolific hardened swingers and just dabble when time arises. Best not to prejudge...if you are.happy with what you are doing then good on you...but not for everyone. For some quality outweighs quantity."Well considering swinging is about fucking and not socializing, I fail to see how being "nice" and having a dadbod really contributes to that quality. But, you're right in one sense, the forums are not really for people who can really offer any useful advice on the subject. Its mostly the dabblers and fantasists and socialisers...whilst those are part of the swinging lifestyle it is, essentially, about sex. Therefore, when it comes to differentiating whose going to be more successful...its probably better to gauge the opinions of those actually having most of the sex. You're entitled to continue faffing about with those who think being nice is going to get them laid. It wont. But cant hate a trier.  | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability. "Thanks for pissing on everyone's chips 
Luckily boiling it down to 3 attributes that conveniently match you is very supportive to everyone else.
Success. How is that measured?
Number of fucks or quality of interaction? Believe it or not, there are some people who are here for everything associated with the social side of swinging as well as the carnal side.
Attractiveness and desireability?
It is surely the whole package that attracts? If you are tall/ handsome, well hung and gym fit with the personality of a bollard, you'll get meets for sure, but not neccessarily repeat meets. Ideal if that is what you want or frequent clubs for fuck and go action.
If you think it is all about big cocks and muscles, you have no idea how the female brain works. There again you probably couldn't give a rats arse either way.
Some women are intimidated by gym bunnies. Some women don't enjoy a big cock. Some people value friends first.
It isn't about buttering as many parsnips as possible by being "nice". It is about being a basic decent human being.
In terms of advice to the OP.
Be yourself.
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Thanks for pissing on everyone's chips
Luckily boiling it down to 3 attributes that conveniently match you is very supportive to everyone else.
Success. How is that measured?
Number of fucks or quality of interaction? Believe it or not, there are some people who are here for everything associated with the social side of swinging as well as the carnal side.
Attractiveness and desireability?
It is surely the whole package that attracts? If you are tall/ handsome, well hung and gym fit with the personality of a bollard, you'll get meets for sure, but not neccessarily repeat meets. Ideal if that is what you want or frequent clubs for fuck and go action.
If you think it is all about big cocks and muscles, you have no idea how the female brain works. There again you probably couldn't give a rats arse either way.
Some women are intimidated by gym bunnies. Some women don't enjoy a big cock. Some people value friends first.
It isn't about buttering as many parsnips as possible by being "nice". It is about being a basic decent human being.
In terms of advice to the OP.
Be yourself.
Make sure when you be yourself, you are not being a knob."Infrequent....phew...thought i was going mad there for a moment. Well said....thanks for your valuable input | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Thanks for pissing on everyone's chips
Luckily boiling it down to 3 attributes that conveniently match you is very supportive to everyone else.
Success. How is that measured?
Number of fucks or quality of interaction? Believe it or not, there are some people who are here for everything associated with the social side of swinging as well as the carnal side.
Attractiveness and desireability?
It is surely the whole package that attracts? If you are tall/ handsome, well hung and gym fit with the personality of a bollard, you'll get meets for sure, but not neccessarily repeat meets. Ideal if that is what you want or frequent clubs for fuck and go action.
If you think it is all about big cocks and muscles, you have no idea how the female brain works. There again you probably couldn't give a rats arse either way.
Some women are intimidated by gym bunnies. Some women don't enjoy a big cock. Some people value friends first.
It isn't about buttering as many parsnips as possible by being "nice". It is about being a basic decent human being.
In terms of advice to the OP.
Be yourself.
Make sure when you be yourself, you are not being a knob."LOL, this is what I mean. Get off the forums. Read the profiles here. Realise that, first of all, swinging has more couples participating than single women...couples who are often in perfectly suitable relationships and are, therefore, looking for plus ones/twos who merely have some level of mutual understanding ...thats it. This idea that this is a site to make friends and social groups is comical...hence why clubs and parties are far more attended that social groups and pub meets. What I find laughable is "nice guys" who think they understand the women's brain and then only reduce said mind to a list of boring patriarchal assumptions...women like personality? What next women cant be visually stimulated? Women cant simply enjoy one of sexual encounters? Might as well say the female orgasm does not exist either as thats often the route people with said assumptions tend to go down. As said, instead of pretending to yourself...actually READ the profiles on here. There are a wealth of them, many even on your own newsfeed. See the sheer amount of them with specific requirements about looks/build. I mean, who are we really kidding here? Swinging is superficial, there is no point pretending otherwise. Quality is an erroneous term of no meaning except to those who want to make themselves feel better...after all the nicest couple I met on here were the same I had the lamest sexual experience with. They're lovely people, but we did not realize our sexual incompatibility until we actually got together...no amount of sweet talking online would have changed that. | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Thanks for pissing on everyone's chips
Luckily boiling it down to 3 attributes that conveniently match you is very supportive to everyone else.
Success. How is that measured?
Number of fucks or quality of interaction? Believe it or not, there are some people who are here for everything associated with the social side of swinging as well as the carnal side.
Attractiveness and desireability?
It is surely the whole package that attracts? If you are tall/ handsome, well hung and gym fit with the personality of a bollard, you'll get meets for sure, but not neccessarily repeat meets. Ideal if that is what you want or frequent clubs for fuck and go action.
If you think it is all about big cocks and muscles, you have no idea how the female brain works. There again you probably couldn't give a rats arse either way.
Some women are intimidated by gym bunnies. Some women don't enjoy a big cock. Some people value friends first.
It isn't about buttering as many parsnips as possible by being "nice". It is about being a basic decent human being.
In terms of advice to the OP.
Be yourself.
Make sure when you be yourself, you are not being a knob.
LOL, this is what I mean.
Get off the forums. Read the profiles here. Realise that, first of all, swinging has more couples participating than single women...couples who are often in perfectly suitable relationships and are, therefore, looking for plus ones/twos who merely have some level of mutual understanding ...thats it. This idea that this is a site to make friends and social groups is comical...hence why clubs and parties are far more attended that social groups and pub meets. What I find laughable is "nice guys" who think they understand the women's brain and then only reduce said mind to a list of boring patriarchal assumptions...women like personality? What next women cant be visually stimulated? Women cant simply enjoy one of sexual encounters? Might as well say the female orgasm does not exist either as thats often the route people with said assumptions tend to go down.
As said, instead of pretending to yourself...actually READ the profiles on here. There are a wealth of them, many even on your own newsfeed. See the sheer amount of them with specific requirements about looks/build. I mean, who are we really kidding here? Swinging is superficial, there is no point pretending otherwise. Quality is an erroneous term of no meaning except to those who want to make themselves feel better...after all the nicest couple I met on here were the same I had the lamest sexual experience with. They're lovely people, but we did not realize our sexual incompatibility until we actually got together...no amount of sweet talking online would have changed that. "Ah bless him.....the joys of youthful ignorance....assuming people are not active is funny. Just because we dont where a tshirt saying i fuck loads of women because they love my big cock...does not mean we dont have fun | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Thanks for pissing on everyone's chips
Luckily boiling it down to 3 attributes that conveniently match you is very supportive to everyone else.
Success. How is that measured?
Number of fucks or quality of interaction? Believe it or not, there are some people who are here for everything associated with the social side of swinging as well as the carnal side.
Attractiveness and desireability?
It is surely the whole package that attracts? If you are tall/ handsome, well hung and gym fit with the personality of a bollard, you'll get meets for sure, but not neccessarily repeat meets. Ideal if that is what you want or frequent clubs for fuck and go action.
If you think it is all about big cocks and muscles, you have no idea how the female brain works. There again you probably couldn't give a rats arse either way.
Some women are intimidated by gym bunnies. Some women don't enjoy a big cock. Some people value friends first.
It isn't about buttering as many parsnips as possible by being "nice". It is about being a basic decent human being.
In terms of advice to the OP.
Be yourself.
Make sure when you be yourself, you are not being a knob.
LOL, this is what I mean.
Get off the forums. Read the profiles here. Realise that, first of all, swinging has more couples participating than single women...couples who are often in perfectly suitable relationships and are, therefore, looking for plus ones/twos who merely have some level of mutual understanding ...thats it. This idea that this is a site to make friends and social groups is comical...hence why clubs and parties are far more attended that social groups and pub meets. What I find laughable is "nice guys" who think they understand the women's brain and then only reduce said mind to a list of boring patriarchal assumptions...women like personality? What next women cant be visually stimulated? Women cant simply enjoy one of sexual encounters? Might as well say the female orgasm does not exist either as thats often the route people with said assumptions tend to go down.
As said, instead of pretending to yourself...actually READ the profiles on here. There are a wealth of them, many even on your own newsfeed. See the sheer amount of them with specific requirements about looks/build. I mean, who are we really kidding here? Swinging is superficial, there is no point pretending otherwise. Quality is an erroneous term of no meaning except to those who want to make themselves feel better...after all the nicest couple I met on here were the same I had the lamest sexual experience with. They're lovely people, but we did not realize our sexual incompatibility until we actually got together...no amount of sweet talking online would have changed that.
Ah bless him.....the joys of youthful ignorance....assuming people are not active is funny. Just because we dont where a tshirt saying i fuck loads of women because they love my big cock...does not mean we dont have fun"You said it yourself. You're not a profilic swinger. But you're fulfilling my point about being the typical middle aged "nice guy". As I said, not everyone needs to barter good behavior for sex...therefore your "advice" (if it is that and not just another look at me thread like many of the others) is not really warranted. In fact, I would say its next to useless. Its also kind of pathetic you assume everyone getting no action on here is not doing so because they're rude/weird. No, in many cases people simply dont have numbers/desirability on their side...but that does not suit the victimhood narrative that narcissists and their puppy dogs try to follow. For many single men, the goal is firstly just getting meets before being able to assess quality and preference. I have a feeling you know this, hence why I think this "here's why you need to be more like me (wink, wink)" discussion is largely masturbatory and pointless. And nothing more than an attempt at self service. | |||
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"I think Superfreak has a point when he talks about visuals, I personally have to find someone attractive and who ticks my boxes but there's so much more to it than that. As for the rest of it....meh....just be yourself "Of course. This is an NSA sex site...compatibility and emotional resonance will always play second fiddle. But these threads always persist and are almost always started by men...the only thing I find amusing is when I actually check out some of their profiles they almost always come across as "polite beggar" types who feel that they can nice their way into some vagina. For the less socially calibrated, you'll have notice occasional meltdown threads where these same types lambaste the same women on here for not falling for their "charm". I've seen it at least three times in the past few months. You cannot decipher ones personality from text. PLENTY of tales can be told of those who seemed like absolute darlings online only to turn out to be abusive assholes in real life. Politeness and manners should go without saying, its mentioned on the FAQ...and anyone decent does not need to be told that treating fellow human beings with respect works in ones favor in most cases. Therefore thinking that said behavior will lead to sex/better treatment is rather childish. No one is entitle to attraction...therefore it would probably be best if one actually works on the things that can make one more attractive to those on here...and yes, many of those are visual. | |||
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"I think Superfreak has a point when he talks about visuals, I personally have to find someone attractive and who ticks my boxes but there's so much more to it than that. As for the rest of it....meh....just be yourself "superfreak has "half a point"... where yes there has to be attractiveness, but the great thing about "attractive" is that it comes from BOTH the Visuals and the Personality.... and it doesn't have to be 50/50..... it can be 90/10 visuals over personality, it can be 80/20 personality over visuals... there is a reason they say you can "laugh" some people in bed.... there is no absolute right answer which is why i find that when some people are so forceful they are right and everyone else be damn make me laugh.... you people concentrate on being angry old you.... I'll be mellow old me! | |||
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"I think Superfreak has a point when he talks about visuals, I personally have to find someone attractive and who ticks my boxes but there's so much more to it than that. As for the rest of it....meh....just be yourself
superfreak has "half a point"... where yes there has to be attractiveness, but the great thing about "attractive" is that it comes from BOTH the Visuals and the Personality....
and it doesn't have to be 50/50.....
it can be 90/10 visuals over personality, it can be 80/20 personality over visuals...
there is a reason they say you can "laugh" some people in bed....
there is no absolute right answer which is why i find that when some people are so forceful they are right and everyone else be damn make me laugh....
you people concentrate on being angry old you.... I'll be mellow old me!"Brap!. Thread closed as too much common sense in one post! | |||
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"I think Superfreak has a point when he talks about visuals, I personally have to find someone attractive and who ticks my boxes but there's so much more to it than that. As for the rest of it....meh....just be yourself
Of course. This is an NSA sex site...compatibility and emotional resonance will always play second fiddle. But these threads always persist and are almost always started by men...the only thing I find amusing is when I actually check out some of their profiles they almost always come across as "polite beggar" types who feel that they can nice their way into some vagina. For the less socially calibrated, you'll have notice occasional meltdown threads where these same types lambaste the same women on here for not falling for their "charm". I've seen it at least three times in the past few months.
You cannot decipher ones personality from text. PLENTY of tales can be told of those who seemed like absolute darlings online only to turn out to be abusive assholes in real life. Politeness and manners should go without saying, its mentioned on the FAQ...and anyone decent does not need to be told that treating fellow human beings with respect works in ones favor in most cases. Therefore thinking that said behavior will lead to sex/better treatment is rather childish. No one is entitle to attraction...therefore it would probably be best if one actually works on the things that can make one more attractive to those on here...and yes, many of those are visual."Agreed. I've commented on this before, why some men use their 'niceness' or 'politeness' as selling points and wonder why they aren't getting a meet on the basis that they are 'nice'. But 'nice' or 'polite' is normal. I expect that as a basic. Its not an aphrodisiac. To get me into bed the normal basic is required plus something sexually exciting. The normal basic on its own is not sexually exciting. Mrs | |||
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"Another irritating sycophant here to play white knight for the "long suffering" single women and couples on Fab. I really want to give people access to my inbox at times, just in order to see there are just as many sexually clueless, hopeless and idiotic women and couples on this site as there are men. Its simply the fact that the numbers mean you're far likely to run into the men than the women. Also OP, here is stuff that really does work: 1. Be gymfit 2. Have a big cock 3. Be good looking/tall If you have a look at the profiles with the most success you tend to find those either have one of the three things listed or they actively partake in the social side of the swinging lifestyle...you know, the stuff that you dont even really need Fab for. But, please spare me the pathetic "look at me!" attempts. I tend to find they show up twice every week with another middle aged "nice guy" desperate to barter goodwill for sexual interest. And judging by many of the veri's of these people, it hardly actually works
Bollocks!
Female commenting here. I have a single profile as well and whilst I appreciate a gym fit body, I also like dad bods. It's the personality that's important, although looks do come into it.
What will appeal to one person, may not appeal to another.
Be yourself and not what you think someone else wants xx
No. There are things that appeal more than others. Fact of the matter is, "nice guys" and dadbods are not what excites many on here. Nothing is more comical than coming on the forums and hearing people claiming stuff like size and looks dont matter only to see just about every other profile here requesting for size and good looks.
This is an NSA sex site and superficiality rules. People can keep pretending to keep others hopes up.
I find it's actually a bit of both if I'm honest mate. I get as many others making contact with me for my boundless imagination and knowledge of the female psyche as I do any physical attribute I have.
Its simply the numbers. The greater ratio of men means women are more selective. Not a particularly difficult concept to grasp. Selective behavior will gravitate towards the few things people can be selective about...and those are mostly visual. LOL or are we going to now pretend people actually fully read profiles on here now? I actually find that most of the serious/most prolific swingers on here dont take part in discussion all that much anyway.
The forum is really kinda in its own world really, especially when people need to convince themselves that their opinions/"niceness" have even a remote bearing on their attractiveness or desirability.
Again you dont get it.....not all of us are prolific hardened swingers and just dabble when time arises. Best not to prejudge...if you are.happy with what you are doing then good on you...but not for everyone. For some quality outweighs quantity.
Well considering swinging is about fucking and not socializing, I fail to see how being "nice" and having a dadbod really contributes to that quality.
But, you're right in one sense, the forums are not really for people who can really offer any useful advice on the subject. Its mostly the dabblers and fantasists and socialisers...whilst those are part of the swinging lifestyle it is, essentially, about sex. Therefore, when it comes to differentiating whose going to be more successful...its probably better to gauge the opinions of those actually having most of the sex.
You're entitled to continue faffing about with those who think being nice is going to get them laid. It wont. But cant hate a trier. "Again it's about both fucking (and all the myriad of other sexual acts that come with it rather simply cracking on and drilling away like your partner(s) is a particularly stubborn piece of alloy you have to knock a tech-screw into before you go home for the day) and socializing. A better knowledge and performance in one area will usually improve the other. As you have said, it's a numbers game, so therefore women tend to want the whole package in their eyes. Therefore they tend to want the body type they prefer, the facial features they prefer, someone they can generally connect with on a sexual, usually friendly and sometimes emotional level, and someone who has a bit going on between the ears in terms of curiosity and imagination. Despite the overwhelming ratio of men to women on here, the number who tick all these boxes for any particular woman and fit other demographics such as preferred age and location to boot are a lot more limited. And often the men who tick all these boxes won't be the ones messaging them to start off with either as such men tend to be in higher demand so won't have time to send lots of messages out like the fu(kwits of the site do, often carpet-bombing every woman within a certain radius in the vain hope of getting action. That's why a lot of women WANT to meet socially beforehand, so they can get more of a feel for a prospective meet beforehand. Probably because they've had a disappointing experience or two in the past with the type of man who's basically a mannequin fitted with a motor-driven 9 inch cock. It is true some will bypass this social stage, but usually because chat beforehand has told them that the man they are to meet actually has a clue. | |||
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"Be honest . Don't blow smoke up her arse (unless it's a kink she has requested!) Don't make her feel like she is a free hooker! (unless it's a kink she has requested!) Think about what you both want ... A status or message saying "I need my balls emptying" is really not a turn on! Make her laugh . It's much more attractive! If she asks for a social take the time to do it.. or move on to someone that's on the same page as you! Directed that at men . as my advice for women would be. have a pussy and a pulse ! Wish there was a tongue in cheek emoji "Lol love this! | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs" Interesting and a different perspective. Thanks. | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs" One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words!" Thaks kvn...originally started out as a thread sort of based on my experience and what i see and hear from.others....all lighthearted stuff. I am far from being any officianado on all this as i am happily having fun with a lovely couple. Anyway great to stimulate debate | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words!" I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. " Classy you always speak sense...xx Love the 3 way dynamic btw.... | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. " The guys with previous success point you touched on, is probably the most important, as other couples will naturally select a guy with verified experience, over someone who will message them stating they have such experience. The gym-fit body aspect isn't always a great thing, as I have received quite a lot of "I'm nowhere near as toned as you are" type messages, from women not so bodily self-confident, who then don't message again | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. " It is to that dynamic I was referring to. | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. It is to that dynamic I was referring to. " There are probably 2 trains of advise required. Advise for men looking for women, and advise for men looking for couples. There will be overlaps of course, but it is commonly overlooked the need for an understanding of the three-way dynamic. For any guy wanting to play with a couple, that should be the first piece of advise given - don't get that right and there is no point. Likewise I would advise any couple that if they focus on looking for men who understand that concept, their experience of single men would be that much better. But people bang on about manners, looks, personality, sexual prowess etc. All of which are wonderful for 1 to 1 meets, but totally useless for a man meeting a couple if he doesn't understand the threeway dynamic. Mrs | |||
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"How about just treating somebody with respect and honesty and as a lady in every circumstance untill otherwise requested. I am astounded at the lack of wit, conversation and general wooing. Come on, every lady wants to feel special even if it is fab! "I do believe that a lot of men came here from dating sites because they got tired of the time, effort and expense of having to woo a woman in order to get sex. Then they had a bit of a shock when the discovered that effort was required here too. Mrs | |||
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"How about just treating somebody with respect and honesty and as a lady in every circumstance untill otherwise requested. I am astounded at the lack of wit, conversation and general wooing. Come on, every lady wants to feel special even if it is fab!
I do believe that a lot of men came here from dating sites because they got tired of the time, effort and expense of having to woo a woman in order to get sex. Then they had a bit of a shock when the discovered that effort was required here too.
Mrs"totally concur withyour concurrence...formany including me (M & F) there needs to be some sexual mental connection. I ended up finding what i was looking for...lucky me | |||
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"Tell them you're a multi millionaire with a dodgy heart" Wrong site I think - try that on one for women seeking sugar daddies | |||
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"Be good looking Have a huge cock Have a gym fit body Don't be a moaner Very simple... " All wrong for me. I prefer average rough diamond looking men. I don't like 6 packs. They're hard and uncomfortable to lay or lean onto. Big dicks aren't going to work for me. I'm not comfortable with bigger then 8 inches. 9 is ok at times during sex but leaves me with lower belly ache most of day afterwards. Not what I want so I don't meet anyone with big dicks. | |||
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"Be good looking Have a huge cock Have a gym fit body Don't be a moaner Very simple... All wrong for me. I prefer average rough diamond looking men. I don't like 6 packs. They're hard and uncomfortable to lay or lean onto. Big dicks aren't going to work for me. I'm not comfortable with bigger then 8 inches. 9 is ok at times during sex but leaves me with lower belly ache most of day afterwards. Not what I want so I don't meet anyone with big dicks." Yes it's a mistake to assume that all women are looking for the same kind of men | |||
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"How about just treating somebody with respect and honesty and as a lady in every circumstance untill otherwise requested. I am astounded at the lack of wit, conversation and general wooing. Come on, every lady wants to feel special even if it is fab!
I do believe that a lot of men came here from dating sites because they got tired of the time, effort and expense of having to woo a woman in order to get sex. Then they had a bit of a shock when the discovered that effort was required here too.
Mrs"I can understand men on dating sites investing time with actually dating a woman before any bedroom activities, but actually making contact would probably be a doddle as the numbers game is reversed. Therefore I imagine more women will be messaging men with lengthy emails and the men will probably be sending back 4 or 5 word replies, the opposite of many on here. In which case the men leaving dating sites to try ones such as Fab that are geared more towards sex probably start like you said, sending out 4 or 5 word basic messages as that is all that is needed on sites they've been on previously. They're no doubt quite surprised to find it's the women on here in the main that send messages like that generally, not the guys! | |||
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"Be good looking Have a huge cock Have a gym fit body Don't be a moaner Very simple... " yup. People think there’s some deep science.
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"I suggest lying about the size of your cock and covering yourself in tattoos is more likely to work." This seems the easiest tip. I'll give this a go. | |||
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"I would say don't punch above your weight. I have messaged women and I know I'm not that good at chatting women up but I find if you don't stand out you have no chance I just don't think I have it lol " It won't be you personally that either has it or doesnt have it because the people you are messaging don't know you. People are making a judgement on your profile or your message. Mrs | |||
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"One thing I've noticed down in the South East is that it's the same guys that appear on couples verifications over and over again. We usually have 2 to 3 guys on the go (one being an off-on regular for 2 and a half years). We've often noticed that we are sharing our guys with 2 or 3 couples. Mathematically that would imply there are the same number of couples available for single guys as there are single guys available for couples. No doubt in reality there are plenty of single guys who are getting ignored by couples. It's often made me wonder what it is these guys, who are successful with couple, all have that make couples all deviate towards the same ones. The common attributes I've noticed are age 35-45, confident but not arrogant, reasonable body, above average looks and intellect, goodmanners (should go without saying), selective and not desperate. But above all what these guys have in common is that they all get the threeway dynamic required for couple play. I think it's this final attribute that makes it harder for couples to find a suitable man. Much easier for single ladies I would imagine. Mrs One thing that does make me chuckle in these types of threads is, it's guys trying to give other guys advice. I've no idea how 'successful' they are but surely the best people to give advice are couples and females? Having read the above, anybody looking for advice would do well to heed those words! I don't think I've said anything different from anybody else. The only new thing I've mentioned is the 3-way dynamic, but that of course is irrelevant for 1 to 1 meets which I think most men prefer and what most threads of this nature are geered towards. I have pointed out that a gym fit body is not essential, which contradict popular belief. And I've made no reference to cock size. It is to that dynamic I was referring to. There are probably 2 trains of advise required. Advise for men looking for women, and advise for men looking for couples. There will be overlaps of course, but it is commonly overlooked the need for an understanding of the three-way dynamic. For any guy wanting to play with a couple, that should be the first piece of advise given - don't get that right and there is no point. Likewise I would advise any couple that if they focus on looking for men who understand that concept, their experience of single men would be that much better. But people bang on about manners, looks, personality, sexual prowess etc. All of which are wonderful for 1 to 1 meets, but totally useless for a man meeting a couple if he doesn't understand the threeway dynamic. Mrs" | |||
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"How about just treating somebody with respect and honesty and as a lady in every circumstance untill otherwise requested. I am astounded at the lack of wit, conversation and general wooing. Come on, every lady wants to feel special even if it is fab!
I do believe that a lot of men came here from dating sites because they got tired of the time, effort and expense of having to woo a woman in order to get sex. Then they had a bit of a shock when the discovered that effort was required here too.
Mrs
I can understand men on dating sites investing time with actually dating a woman before any bedroom activities, but actually making contact would probably be a doddle as the numbers game is reversed. Therefore I imagine more women will be messaging men with lengthy emails and the men will probably be sending back 4 or 5 word replies, the opposite of many on here.
In which case the men leaving dating sites to try ones such as Fab that are geared more towards sex probably start like you said, sending out 4 or 5 word basic messages as that is all that is needed on sites they've been on previously. They're no doubt quite surprised to find it's the women on here in the main that send messages like that generally, not the guys!"LOL to think you were arguing with my point...you have no concept of reality. At all. But then this is the Fab forums and most of the people here are delusional idiots. FYI, EVERY dating site has a higher ratio of men to women. Even those where women are being paid for their "services" or are looking for sugar daddies. The idea that men are sending out simple messages on here because they're getting "bombarded" on vanilla dating sites is so laughably ridiculous. Women get more messages because men are, in the case of about every member of the mammalian species, the pursuers. Fab users send out crappy messages because most people suck at communication. | |||
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"How about just treating somebody with respect and honesty and as a lady in every circumstance untill otherwise requested. I am astounded at the lack of wit, conversation and general wooing. Come on, every lady wants to feel special even if it is fab!
I do believe that a lot of men came here from dating sites because they got tired of the time, effort and expense of having to woo a woman in order to get sex. Then they had a bit of a shock when the discovered that effort was required here too.
Mrs
I can understand men on dating sites investing time with actually dating a woman before any bedroom activities, but actually making contact would probably be a doddle as the numbers game is reversed. Therefore I imagine more women will be messaging men with lengthy emails and the men will probably be sending back 4 or 5 word replies, the opposite of many on here.
In which case the men leaving dating sites to try ones such as Fab that are geared more towards sex probably start like you said, sending out 4 or 5 word basic messages as that is all that is needed on sites they've been on previously. They're no doubt quite surprised to find it's the women on here in the main that send messages like that generally, not the guys!
LOL to think you were arguing with my point...you have no concept of reality. At all. But then this is the Fab forums and most of the people here are delusional idiots.
FYI, EVERY dating site has a higher ratio of men to women. Even those where women are being paid for their "services" or are looking for sugar daddies. The idea that men are sending out simple messages on here because they're getting "bombarded" on vanilla dating sites is so laughably ridiculous.
Women get more messages because men are, in the case of about every member of the mammalian species, the pursuers. Fab users send out crappy messages because most people suck at communication. "I have a very good concept of reality thanks. Though you appear to be extremely presumptuous which is admittedly a common trait amongst those in their 20s, which like most age groups believe they know more about something than they do, even if not entirely exclusive. Dating sites as with sex sites I don't view as reality as the trends on them will doubtless be skewed by their memberships and the fact that most members will not have been in contact with most other members. For someone your age this may be viewed as reality as a hell of a lot more friendships, relationships and indeed sexual attachments are formed without the people involved seeing each other beforehand and it has been this way for you throughout your adult life. I don't know fully how a dating site operates as I've never used one, as I'd find them completely pointless. As far as relationships go, as a man and in my own experience provided I'm able to provide and not a total tool, sooner or later a relationship will just happen if I want one as more women are hardwired to look for them than men. They're easy to get into. Whereas for a woman they're a lot harder, again because more women seek them than men. I merely applied this logic to dating sites, matter of factly. The ONLY thing that would skew these results is a great number of men using them purely for sex which kind of goes against the purpose. Don't believe me? Then see how many single woman profiles there are on here that seek a relationship with one man in all but name. If what you said was completely true then these women in the main wouldn't be on here, they'd doubtless be on dating sites largely instead where the whole men merely seeking them for sex issue wouldn't be as prevalent AND they'd still be vastly outnumbered by the number of men actually seeking a relationship with them. Which clearly isn't the case. The irony of it is a lot of what you're saying does make sense. You do make some very valid points and you're clearly not stupid. But you have a habit of assuming absolutes in a lot of areas that apply right across the board when they do nothing of the sort. Again I can only put that down to less real life experience. | |||
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