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"Get tested at least once every three months - it's free, not at all embarrassing and provides peace of mind. In fact I don't understand why anyone wouldn't who regularly plays with multiple partners or has a partner who does." Because I have only just come back onto Fab, and have an active sex life again after a two year break due to illness....my point was really, although it wasn’t clear, was that in my area you can do it all online | |||
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"How on earth is a physical exam done all online?" I think you sit on a photocopier and fax the scan through | |||
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"Get tested at least once every three months - it's free, not at all embarrassing and provides peace of mind. In fact I don't understand why anyone wouldn't who regularly plays with multiple partners or has a partner who does. Because I have only just come back onto Fab, and have an active sex life again after a two year break due to illness....my point was really, although it wasn’t clear, was that in my area you can do it all online " Yes have heard that online remote testing is being offered in some areas which is great and provides even less reason not to take advantage of it. And my 'why wouldn't anyone' comment wasn't aimed at you so apologies if it came across that way - seems I missed an "I" before "Get" in that first paragraph | |||
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"How on earth is a physical exam done all online?" So clearly they are not! The test are buccal swabs and blood tests....I am sure I am quite capable of doing a physical examination myself... | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test???" I've never been given chlamydia tablets in a walk in. How bizarre | |||
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"How on earth is a physical exam done all online? So clearly they are not! The test are buccal swabs and blood tests....I am sure I am quite capable of doing a physical examination myself... " what about the checking the physical looks.. i am not sure I can see if there is anything that looks a miss. | |||
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"Don't think I'd trust an on line check up. What if the results got mixed up.... no not worth thinking about. I think even if you practice safe sex I'd still get checked regularly it's just peace of mind " I would hope everyone would get tested even if they practise safer sex. | |||
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"Unfortunately some think just because they use a condom that they are safe and they don't need to get tested. " yes we have had accusations thrown at us as why do we get tested if we use condoms x as they can't grasp that it is only safer x | |||
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"Unfortunately some think just because they use a condom that they are safe and they don't need to get tested. " Madness. | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier ...." Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test??? I've never been given chlamydia tablets in a walk in. How bizarre " Neither have I?! My point is still being missed here...I used to go to walk in clinic...but now there is not one....it is all online | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. " Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test??? I've never been given chlamydia tablets in a walk in. How bizarre " Neither have we!! | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test??? I've never been given chlamydia tablets in a walk in. How bizarre Neither have I?! My point is still being missed here...I used to go to walk in clinic...but now there is not one....it is all online" But they still do booked appointments! | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier ...." Why the need to mention the two guys are we supposed to be impressed | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test??? I've never been given chlamydia tablets in a walk in. How bizarre Neither have I?! My point is still being missed here...I used to go to walk in clinic...but now there is not one....it is all online" If you had symptoms, would they offer face to face then? I know where I live there is a walk in clinic where you can have peace of mind testing done (no symptoms) and you see nurse briefly and do swabs yourself and hand them in, or they offer clinic for those with symptoms. I wonder if your peace of mind clinic is online? | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test???" Are these tablets a preventative or cure ?? I've never been given any tablets so not 'everyone gets them'! | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?!" I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. " Just to clarify I alway's do my own swabbing there anyway so not different to at home. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. " That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. Just to clarify I alway's do my own swabbing there anyway so not different to at home." Chlamydia has an incubation period of 1 to 3 weeks....so that it totally feasible...lol Every day I see a school day huh? | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ?" Well I can't be the only one to have had it can I,someone on here passed it to me in the first place. Condoms were used for penetration,but not oral. I told the three guy's I'd last had sex with going back a fair bit and they each said they tested negative. I wasn't convinced about one though ,he was a bit flaky in his reply and I wasn't even sure he had gone. I didn't mention it to the clinic to be honest,I just waited for the results to come back. Popped in for my 5 tablets then that was that done and dusted. It's just put me off doing anything online,I'd rather go to the clinic. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. Just to clarify I alway's do my own swabbing there anyway so not different to at home. Chlamydia has an incubation period of 1 to 3 weeks....so that it totally feasible...lol Every day I see a school day huh? " Why the 'lol' did I tell a joke? I'm just telling you my experience,please don't patronise me! | |||
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"Get tested at least once every three months - it's free, not at all embarrassing and provides peace of mind. In fact I don't understand why anyone wouldn't who regularly plays with multiple partners or has a partner who does." what if she has it that will ruin her not provide peace of mind lol u got to look at both sides | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Well I can't be the only one to have had it can I,someone on here passed it to me in the first place. Condoms were used for penetration,but not oral. I told the three guy's I'd last had sex with going back a fair bit and they each said they tested negative. I wasn't convinced about one though ,he was a bit flaky in his reply and I wasn't even sure he had gone. I didn't mention it to the clinic to be honest,I just waited for the results to come back. Popped in for my 5 tablets then that was that done and dusted. It's just put me off doing anything online,I'd rather go to the clinic." Hey! You ride horses you fall off from time to time....you were responsible, that’s what mattered...nobody died....just get back on that horse x | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. Just to clarify I alway's do my own swabbing there anyway so not different to at home. Chlamydia has an incubation period of 1 to 3 weeks....so that it totally feasible...lol Every day I see a school day huh? Why the 'lol' did I tell a joke? I'm just telling you my experience,please don't patronise me! " Patronise you? Seriously? Talk about read into things ..... | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. Just to clarify I alway's do my own swabbing there anyway so not different to at home. Chlamydia has an incubation period of 1 to 3 weeks....so that it totally feasible...lol Every day I see a school day huh? Why the 'lol' did I tell a joke? I'm just telling you my experience,please don't patronise me! Patronise you? Seriously? Talk about read into things ..... " I'll ask then. What did the lol mean ?! She made a serious post about a serious subject. I like to lol, but in this instant I'm lol free | |||
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"Get tested at least once every three months - it's free, not at all embarrassing and provides peace of mind. In fact I don't understand why anyone wouldn't who regularly plays with multiple partners or has a partner who does. what if she has it that will ruin her not provide peace of mind lol u got to look at both sides " If you read my later post I clarified that my original post wasn't pointed at the OP at all - however it's far better to get tested and, if positive, get treatment/support than to walk around ignorant to what you're carrying and potentially passing it on to others surely? Whatever the result peace of mind is achieved | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test???" | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ?" Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset." I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it." Ignorance has a lot to answer for, hasn't it and the NHS doesn't bloody help. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it." For those not enlightened enough to see that you've been open and honest, have taken the treatment and are now clear maybe. Picking up an infection is a risk each and every one of us runs when choosing to play with multiple partners which is why the sensible amongst us get regularly tested and take the treatment if necessary. I'm lucky enough never to have been infected but if someone I was meeting told me they had been in the past, had been treated and since been clear then it wouldn't stop me playing with them all other factors being equal of course. In fact if anything I'd probably admire their honesty and sense of responsibility. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset." I agree. I was reminded of a thread many many years ago on here, when a youngish girl admitted to having herpes. She was torn to shreds - it was very unpleasant reading. | |||
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"How do you do the blood tests with the online version? If it's just a prick why don't they do that at the clinic rather than them struggling to find a vein and then take a syringe full?" There's two types of tests I believe - one that takes a pin prick but can only tell if you were negative a number of weeks in the past (not sure of the exact science behind it) and one that takes a syringe full that tells if you were negative at that moment in time. I asked the same when THT were at VA and did the pin prick test rather than the syringe one. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I agree. I was reminded of a thread many many years ago on here, when a youngish girl admitted to having herpes. She was torn to shreds - it was very unpleasant reading. " People go into panic mode when they hear of someone having had an infection. | |||
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"We wouldn’t do the tests online , and since we are very active we are happy to pop into our local clinic every six weeks . We have never been offered tablets for chlamydia , so I’m not sure what that was about ? Unless the poster had it , and needed the antibiotics . I don’t really know how an online test could get the blood required as they take half a vial every other test , and have a job finding the vein with my wife , leaving a big bruise every time . Also , how would they see possible problems like warts or herpes ? The thing is this , we all play a risky game and it’s our responsibility to look after ourselves . If more people got checked more regularly then it may be a safer game we play . But they don’t , so it’s up to each and every one of us to what’s best for us . We’ve had a couple of scares over the years ( both times we were clear , but since people we played with alerted us we had extra tests ) , and we know that people talk about us in our area , but we know we are clean and that’s all that matters . " | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it. For those not enlightened enough to see that you've been open and honest, have taken the treatment and are now clear maybe. Picking up an infection is a risk each and every one of us runs when choosing to play with multiple partners which is why the sensible amongst us get regularly tested and take the treatment if necessary. I'm lucky enough never to have been infected but if someone I was meeting told me they had been in the past, had been treated and since been clear then it wouldn't stop me playing with them all other factors being equal of course. In fact if anything I'd probably admire their honesty and sense of responsibility." | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it. For those not enlightened enough to see that you've been open and honest, have taken the treatment and are now clear maybe. Picking up an infection is a risk each and every one of us runs when choosing to play with multiple partners which is why the sensible amongst us get regularly tested and take the treatment if necessary. I'm lucky enough never to have been infected but if someone I was meeting told me they had been in the past, had been treated and since been clear then it wouldn't stop me playing with them all other factors being equal of course. In fact if anything I'd probably admire their honesty and sense of responsibility. " Just remember not everything is routinely tested for. | |||
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"Through experience I don't trust online tests. Why are they any different? If you swabbed correctly then the swans/blood test is sent to the same lab?! I had symptoms but couldn't get an appointment for another two weeks. I decided to do an online test in the meantime it came back clear for Chlamydia. Followed the instructions etc Went to my appointment 2 week's later and it came back positive. That's a very brave admission and refreshing to see in the forum. Assuming you told the clinic about this, what did they have to say about online testing ? Let's not separate infections into good and bad categories. Nobody is called brave if they admit to any other infection not associated with sexual contact and by doing so, we are enforcing the myth that sex is wrong in some way. We all need to change our mindset. I definitely agree,but on here it's like the kiss of death isn't it. For those not enlightened enough to see that you've been open and honest, have taken the treatment and are now clear maybe. Picking up an infection is a risk each and every one of us runs when choosing to play with multiple partners which is why the sensible amongst us get regularly tested and take the treatment if necessary. I'm lucky enough never to have been infected but if someone I was meeting told me they had been in the past, had been treated and since been clear then it wouldn't stop me playing with them all other factors being equal of course. In fact if anything I'd probably admire their honesty and sense of responsibility. Just remember not everything is routinely tested for. " Indeed, which is why I always ask for everything to be done | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier ...." So I just rub me knob on an email and send it in? | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? " What do you do then? | |||
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"We both go, no drama, no embarrassment simples. Practicing safe sex doesn’t mean it’s 100% safe, so even though we ONLY practice safe sex we still get checked out x" | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? " Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me " Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. " The comment you replied to was in response to the OP, where she said she said she felt she should just trust the guys that told her they were clear. Like the above poster was questioning, absolutely no way would I take anyone's word for this. Especially if playing bareback which I think is the case. You gotta look after yourself | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. The comment you replied to was in response to the OP, where she said she said she felt she should just trust the guys that told her they were clear. Like the above poster was questioning, absolutely no way would I take anyone's word for this. Especially if playing bareback which I think is the case. You gotta look after yourself " It just says that she played with them, not that she played bare. So if people aren't taking their word that someone is clear, what steps are they taking to verify someone's STI status? | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. The comment you replied to was in response to the OP, where she said she said she felt she should just trust the guys that told her they were clear. Like the above poster was questioning, absolutely no way would I take anyone's word for this. Especially if playing bareback which I think is the case. You gotta look after yourself It just says that she played with them, not that she played bare. So if people aren't taking their word that someone is clear, what steps are they taking to verify someone's STI status? " People make assumptions again...happens all the time on here... | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? " I assume they've been barebacking with everyone they meet. | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. The comment you replied to was in response to the OP, where she said she said she felt she should just trust the guys that told her they were clear. Like the above poster was questioning, absolutely no way would I take anyone's word for this. Especially if playing bareback which I think is the case. You gotta look after yourself It just says that she played with them, not that she played bare. So if people aren't taking their word that someone is clear, what steps are they taking to verify someone's STI status? " Condoms aren't 100% safe. There's no way of knowing if someone is 'clear' of STI's. Taking someone's word for them being clear is naïve at best. | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. " I've just been online They don't do this in my area sadly It would be ideal for me Looks like I shall carry on going to the clinic for the time being | |||
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"I want to get STI tested just to check that I,am still clear..have been playing with two clear guys and although I should take their word for it, I just want to check....my local clinic now provides online testing free so now testing is even easier .... Why on earth would you take anyone's word for it? What do you do then? Not take other people's word that they are clear. It makes total sense to me Sorry, it's still not clear to me. If you don't take their word for it, what do you actually do? Do you have a home testing kit that you use? Ask to see documentation? My local clinic doesnt send out any paperwork showing the results. The comment you replied to was in response to the OP, where she said she said she felt she should just trust the guys that told her they were clear. Like the above poster was questioning, absolutely no way would I take anyone's word for this. Especially if playing bareback which I think is the case. You gotta look after yourself It just says that she played with them, not that she played bare. So if people aren't taking their word that someone is clear, what steps are they taking to verify someone's STI status? Condoms aren't 100% safe. There's no way of knowing if someone is 'clear' of STI's. Taking someone's word for them being clear is naïve at best. " Right, so what do you do if you are not taking their word for it? It's a simple enough question.. | |||
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" Right, so what do you do if you are not taking their word for it? It's a simple enough question.." Play as safe as you can and get regularly tested is all you can do - we each and every one of us have to assess the risks and decide which we want to take but regular testing is the only thing we can do to mitigate those risks. | |||
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" Right, so what do you do if you are not taking their word for it? It's a simple enough question.. Play as safe as you can and get regularly tested is all you can do - we each and every one of us have to assess the risks and decide which we want to take but regular testing is the only thing we can do to mitigate those risks." There was nothing in the OP to suggest that she wasn't playing safe. But the topic at hand is not taking their word for it that they are clear. This suggests that they are conducting tests themselves, or asking for documentary evidence etc before playing with protection. I just want to know what exactly they are doing to establish someones STI status before playing with them. | |||
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" Right, so what do you do if you are not taking their word for it? It's a simple enough question.. Play as safe as you can and get regularly tested is all you can do - we each and every one of us have to assess the risks and decide which we want to take but regular testing is the only thing we can do to mitigate those risks. There was nothing in the OP to suggest that she wasn't playing safe. But the topic at hand is not taking their word for it that they are clear. This suggests that they are conducting tests themselves, or asking for documentary evidence etc before playing with protection. I just want to know what exactly they are doing to establish someones STI status before playing with them. " There's nothing you can do other than discussing with someone in advance of playing - which comes back to my comment that the ONLY thing each of us can do is get regularly tested for our own peace of mind rather than trusting the word of someone else. Whether we choose to take the risk of playing with someone without any 'evidence' is down to us as individuals. I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result - so I play safe and use a condom for penetrative sex and get tested every 3 months to check that I am clean and accept that comes with a level of risk. | |||
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" Right, so what do you do if you are not taking their word for it? It's a simple enough question.. Play as safe as you can and get regularly tested is all you can do - we each and every one of us have to assess the risks and decide which we want to take but regular testing is the only thing we can do to mitigate those risks. There was nothing in the OP to suggest that she wasn't playing safe. But the topic at hand is not taking their word for it that they are clear. This suggests that they are conducting tests themselves, or asking for documentary evidence etc before playing with protection. I just want to know what exactly they are doing to establish someones STI status before playing with them. There's nothing you can do other than discussing with someone in advance of playing - which comes back to my comment that the ONLY thing each of us can do is get regularly tested for our own peace of mind rather than trusting the word of someone else. Whether we choose to take the risk of playing with someone without any 'evidence' is down to us as individuals. I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result - so I play safe and use a condom for penetrative sex and get tested every 3 months to check that I am clean and accept that comes with a level of risk." Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? " If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. " So how do you do the blood sample? How many swabs do you get? | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. So how do you do the blood sample? How many swabs do you get?" You get one swab for the internal and place inside the long tube. You collect your own blood with the tools provided and put it in the bottle provided. Watch this https://youtu.be/8gM1DT5PZi8 Going back to how do you tell people. I showed someone recently the text I received back from the SH:24 test that I did which shows I was clear of everything. | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. So how do you do the blood sample? How many swabs do you get? You get one swab for the internal and place inside the long tube. You collect your own blood with the tools provided and put it in the bottle provided. Watch this https://youtu.be/8gM1DT5PZi8 Going back to how do you tell people. I showed someone recently the text I received back from the SH:24 test that I did which shows I was clear of everything. " Playing devils advocate here. You are only clear to those test results if you don't engage in any sexual activity from time if test to the meet you are showing you are clear. I'm sure there are plenty of folk that show these clear tests that have fucked about in between making the test result completely invalid. | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. So how do you do the blood sample? How many swabs do you get? You get one swab for the internal and place inside the long tube. You collect your own blood with the tools provided and put it in the bottle provided. Watch this https://youtu.be/8gM1DT5PZi8 Going back to how do you tell people. I showed someone recently the text I received back from the SH:24 test that I did which shows I was clear of everything. Playing devils advocate here. You are only clear to those test results if you don't engage in any sexual activity from time if test to the meet you are showing you are clear. I'm sure there are plenty of folk that show these clear tests that have fucked about in between making the test result completely invalid. " Which is exactly the same as any test. Like an MOT on your car. There comes a point where you can only do so much, whether that’s tests or condoms. We’re all responsible for our own health and make our own decisions on what risks we’re prepared to take. Whether anyone uses a condom or not the fact a person has regular tests shows they take it seriously. | |||
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"I posted about this recently on here. It is called SH: 24 and they send you a swab and a kit to collect a blood sample. You do the test at home pop them in the prepaid envelope and send back. They keep in contact by text message and the results are sent to you via text message within 72 hours of them receiving your samples. So how do you do the blood sample? How many swabs do you get? You get one swab for the internal and place inside the long tube. You collect your own blood with the tools provided and put it in the bottle provided. Watch this https://youtu.be/8gM1DT5PZi8 Going back to how do you tell people. I showed someone recently the text I received back from the SH:24 test that I did which shows I was clear of everything. Playing devils advocate here. You are only clear to those test results if you don't engage in any sexual activity from time if test to the meet you are showing you are clear. I'm sure there are plenty of folk that show these clear tests that have fucked about in between making the test result completely invalid. Which is exactly the same as any test. Like an MOT on your car. There comes a point where you can only do so much, whether that’s tests or condoms. We’re all responsible for our own health and make our own decisions on what risks we’re prepared to take. Whether anyone uses a condom or not the fact a person has regular tests shows they take it seriously. " This 100% I’ve been tested twice this year already and I’ll more than likely go again around December time I value my health as well as anyone I’m withs health too much to take risks | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person." So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. " No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. " Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? " No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them." Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered." I obviously can't speak for other posters, but I think having read their posts in full, that you're possibly misinterpreting them - my take on it is all they are saying it is naive to take someone else's word without getting yourself tested too (because it is) and that getting yourself tested is the only way to be certain of your sexual health status - nothing different from what anyone else has said. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered." I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered. I obviously can't speak for other posters, but I think having read their posts in full, that you're possibly misinterpreting them - my take on it is all they are saying it is naive to take someone else's word without getting yourself tested too (because it is) and that getting yourself tested is the only way to be certain of your sexual health status - nothing different from what anyone else has said." Yes that's what I meant. I'll say it again !!! Look after your own health. Because obviously you can't trust anyone else. Why is that so hard to read and digest ?? | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered. I obviously can't speak for other posters, but I think having read their posts in full, that you're possibly misinterpreting them - my take on it is all they are saying it is naive to take someone else's word without getting yourself tested too (because it is) and that getting yourself tested is the only way to be certain of your sexual health status - nothing different from what anyone else has said. Yes that's what I meant. I'll say it again !!! Look after your own health. Because obviously you can't trust anyone else. Why is that so hard to read and digest ??" Looking after your own health, has nothing to do with taking someone else at the word or not. Saying you don’t take other people’s word, means that you ask for proof. Using the example from above, if you don’t take someone’s word that they have a driver’s licence, you ask to see a copy, its got nothing to do with making sure you have insurance and an MOT on the vehicle. | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered. I obviously can't speak for other posters, but I think having read their posts in full, that you're possibly misinterpreting them - my take on it is all they are saying it is naive to take someone else's word without getting yourself tested too (because it is) and that getting yourself tested is the only way to be certain of your sexual health status - nothing different from what anyone else has said. Yes that's what I meant. I'll say it again !!! Look after your own health. Because obviously you can't trust anyone else. Why is that so hard to read and digest ?? Looking after your own health, has nothing to do with taking someone else at the word or not. Saying you don’t take other people’s word, means that you ask for proof. Using the example from above, if you don’t take someone’s word that they have a driver’s licence, you ask to see a copy, its got nothing to do with making sure you have insurance and an MOT on the vehicle." I havent got a scooby doo what you are on about Asking other people to prove their sexual health is futile in my eyes. I look after my health, because that I can be sure about. And no I don't bareback play meets only Sir, my partner. Whatever you're gibbering on about I'm sure makes sense to you. I've taken time - too much now, to try to explain but I think you're being silly in your replies. So you do what makes sense to you and you're happy with and I will do the same. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. " Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. " I didn't say the test is pointless. I said asking is pointless. I'm not stupid so I know there's no point in asking. Which is what I said before. Reading comprehension... a dying art.... | |||
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" Would you play with someone if they told you they had something? If they still had it then no - if they told me they had in the past but had taken the treatment and were now clear then it would depend on the circumstances and how well I felt I knew that person. So that statement, coupled with your previous statement of "I personally don't ask everyone I play with if they can prove they are clean as it would only be as good as their most recent test result" sounds an awful lot like taking someone word for it to me. I'm not saying that you are doing anything wrong, or that you should do anything more, I just dont like people making holier than thou statements and pretending they are doing something that they are not. No I'm not taking anyone's word for anything at all - I'm assessing my own risks and taking the necessary steps (regular testing/playing safe) to mitigate and minimise those risks as best I can. I'm also intrigued as to what "holier than thou" statement you think I, or anyone else on this thread, has made as I certainly don't think I have intentionally done so. Right, let's look at the same words, but in a different context. Imagine you are hiring someone for a position that requires them to drive as part of the job. Do you take their word for it that they have a driver's license? No of course not - but I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make here? As has already been well established in this thread there is no way (short of abstaining from any sexual activity with others for 3 months and then taking a test immediately before a meet and having the results available to show someone) of doing anything other than "taking someone's word for it" when it comes to their sexual health and personally assessing your own risks and whether you want to take them. Exactly, that's what everyone does, everyone takes the other person's word, however they still post comments like 'never take someone else's word' or 'how naieve to take someone else's word'. So I'm asking the people who have said those types of things, what do they actually do. However, you will have noticed that none of them have answered. I obviously can't speak for other posters, but I think having read their posts in full, that you're possibly misinterpreting them - my take on it is all they are saying it is naive to take someone else's word without getting yourself tested too (because it is) and that getting yourself tested is the only way to be certain of your sexual health status - nothing different from what anyone else has said. Yes that's what I meant. I'll say it again !!! Look after your own health. Because obviously you can't trust anyone else. Why is that so hard to read and digest ?? Looking after your own health, has nothing to do with taking someone else at the word or not. Saying you don’t take other people’s word, means that you ask for proof. Using the example from above, if you don’t take someone’s word that they have a driver’s licence, you ask to see a copy, its got nothing to do with making sure you have insurance and an MOT on the vehicle. I havent got a scooby doo what you are on about Asking other people to prove their sexual health is futile in my eyes. I look after my health, because that I can be sure about. And no I don't bareback play meets only Sir, my partner. Whatever you're gibbering on about I'm sure makes sense to you. I've taken time - too much now, to try to explain but I think you're being silly in your replies. So you do what makes sense to you and you're happy with and I will do the same. " That's fine, just dont pretend you are doing more than you are doing, which is taking someone's word for it, just like everyone else. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. I didn't say the test is pointless. I said asking is pointless. I'm not stupid so I know there's no point in asking. Which is what I said before. Reading comprehension... a dying art...." Asking is not stupid unless 100% of people lie and lie convincingly. Besides, if you don't ask then how do you know how well it works as a filter? Besides, what is the downside to asking - what is the cost to you considering the potential benefit? | |||
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"i just do walk in at local gum clinic tested for everything they always give you clamid tabs everyone gets them, but other tests they say if you dont here from us in two weeks your ok they ring you discreetly, never had a paper to say you had a test???" That's new then. When I lived there they did not hand out antibiotics willy nilly. A bit of a dangerous practice if you ask me, in the current climate of antibiotic resistance. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. I didn't say the test is pointless. I said asking is pointless. I'm not stupid so I know there's no point in asking. Which is what I said before. Reading comprehension... a dying art.... Asking is not stupid unless 100% of people lie and lie convincingly. Besides, if you don't ask then how do you know how well it works as a filter? Besides, what is the downside to asking - what is the cost to you considering the potential benefit?" There is zero benefit to asking. It is pointless. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. " | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. " How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts." Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. " I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! | |||
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" How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. " My clinic texts results. I wouldn't be offended if anyone asked me, and I'd be more than happy to show the message. It doesn't prove anyone is clean, but IMO taking precautions, getting regularly tested, does show their consciousness about their health & maybe that just makes them a little less risky. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke!" Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. " Yes, I said I understood and even made a little joke. | |||
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" How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. My clinic texts results. I wouldn't be offended if anyone asked me, and I'd be more than happy to show the message. It doesn't prove anyone is clean, but IMO taking precautions, getting regularly tested, does show their consciousness about their health & maybe that just makes them a little less risky. " Well I'd say it makes them a lot less risky! Even if you do catch something, identifying it early and getting it treated stops the spread around the community. | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. Yes, I said I understood and even made a little joke." And it was a good joke! Can you seriously believe there are people who think they don't need testing because "they only swing with couples" though? | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. " We met a single guy once who thought he didn't need a condom because we're a couple | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. We met a single guy once who thought he didn't need a condom because we're a couple " Because wedding rings repell gonorrhea? | |||
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" I assume they have bareback sex with everyone they meet. I already answered. Not sure what you don't understand. I certainly don't ask if they had a clear test because that's pointless. People lie to get sex. But also even if they had a recent test, some STI's take a while to show up. So even if they believe themselves to be clear they may not be. Sorry but this is a piece of illogical silliness that comes up a lot on fab. Just because a test isn't perfect, that doesn't make it pointless. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all people lie. Just because some people lie, it doesn't mean all liars can lie convincingly. There is literally no downside to asking about testing and it's actually a very good filter. Of course, if you don't ask then you won't know that. How is it a good filter. If someone says "yes I get tested every three months and my last test 2 months and three weeks ago was clear" it tells you no more than those bare facts...if indeed they are facts. Because about ~30% of people respond with "i don't get tested" and then give some retarded reason. Thats a brilliant filter. ~20% of people get the huff just by being asked. Again, not the type we want to meet. Of the remainders, if they live local to us then the clinic sends a text message with your results, if i ask to see it then the response "yeah sure" is a pretty good indicator they aren't lying. So all in all, an excellent filter. I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. Yes, I said I understood and even made a little joke. And it was a good joke! Can you seriously believe there are people who think they don't need testing because "they only swing with couples" though? " Yes I can, see above. | |||
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" I see, I understand. Do people really say they don't get tested. . Even though we don't, we always say we do . . . Joke! Previous reponses include: Single male: "i don't need to get tested because i only play with couples" - block Couple: "we don't need testing because we always use condoms" - block Couple: "if you don't trust us then what's the point in swinging" - block. As an aside, nobody who claims to have been tested has ever failed to produce evidence for us either. So the number of people lying about it isn't so prolific. As i say, an excellent filter. We met a single guy once who thought he didn't need a condom because we're a couple Because wedding rings repell gonorrhea? " Thank God! I can stop spraying our meets with dettol then | |||
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"My results get texted to me. I have been shown a message from a clinic with just the day on the message. They could be to anyone and don't have the date on. " Do you understand that a filter doesn't have to be fool proof to be useful? The only fool proof way to avoid STDs is celibacy. | |||
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"My results get texted to me. I have been shown a message from a clinic with just the day on the message. They could be to anyone and don't have the date on. Do you understand that a filter doesn't have to be fool proof to be useful? The only fool proof way to avoid STDs is celibacy. " I do see your point. We get texts here with results but I always delete texts when I've read them, so I'd fail your filter. If someone asked if I get tested I'd just assume their next request would be bareback and that would put me off anyway. | |||
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"My results get texted to me. I have been shown a message from a clinic with just the day on the message. They could be to anyone and don't have the date on. Do you understand that a filter doesn't have to be fool proof to be useful? The only fool proof way to avoid STDs is celibacy. I do see your point. We get texts here with results but I always delete texts when I've read them, so I'd fail your filter. If someone asked if I get tested I'd just assume their next request would be bareback and that would put me off anyway. " Some people do assume that is why we are asking. We've had meets where the condoms broken, it was much less traumatic knowing they took sexual health seriously. Also, mrs is no longer on birth control, she much prefers her body without being on it so bareback is a no no for us. | |||
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"My results get texted to me. I have been shown a message from a clinic with just the day on the message. They could be to anyone and don't have the date on. Do you understand that a filter doesn't have to be fool proof to be useful? The only fool proof way to avoid STDs is celibacy. I do see your point. We get texts here with results but I always delete texts when I've read them, so I'd fail your filter. If someone asked if I get tested I'd just assume their next request would be bareback and that would put me off anyway. Some people do assume that is why we are asking. We've had meets where the condoms broken, it was much less traumatic knowing they took sexual health seriously. Also, mrs is no longer on birth control, she much prefers her body without being on it so bareback is a no no for us. " Apologies, I wasn't insinuating that you'd do bareback. I just meant I'd think that if it was someone I was meeting. I see what you mean about condoms breaking, that's a very fair point. | |||
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