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"Anyone else joined killing kittens?? Just wondering if it was worth joining? Xx" They don't want the majority of us here! | |||
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"I'm too old. " Irrelevant of age they've got problems if they don't want you there your gorgeous | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. " Yeah if I were 10/20 years younger I wouldn't be shagging the old duffers on here | |||
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"In the great words of someone famous I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.' " That will be Groucho Marx | |||
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"Bloody hell just checked out the KK website. Looks like they are up themselves? " yep I think they should stick it where the sun don't shine lol fab is way more fun! | |||
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"In the great words of someone famous I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member.' That will be Groucho Marx " I know, woody Allan and others have said similar(obviously they've copied Groucho) | |||
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"Fuck it I'm young, handsome and with a ripped body. I'm like a young Brad Pitt. I'm joining and cutting all you losers loose " You'll be back , tail between ya legs & all that | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night " When you say expected | |||
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"The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night " Yes, it's a bit (!) wanky and expensive. I've been to several events (you don't have to be a size ten or under to join) and I've never felt expected to play. Sorry to read you've had that experience but I don't think it's a definite 'thing'. | |||
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"We have house parties and selfishly invite the people we like to fuck. Most of the people we like to fuck, although may not be young or slim, would probably be considered goodlooking by most people. Is that elitist or is that what on Fab is called a 'preference'? For someone who is young slim and goodlooking, and has a preference for other young slim goodlooking people, then what a great idea to get all those people together at the same party! We are sadly a bit out of shape and long in the tooth for that now, and we certainly wouldn't embarrass ourselves by batting above our station. But we would consider it if we could. Cost is a bit steep, but it's sometimes worth paying for a really nice venue. Mrs" | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night When you say expected " Lol as in people have paid a lot of money to party with 'considered sexier ' people and are going there not to just socialise they intend to play There seems to be a definate timing of events ... few drinks then all at it haha | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. " Totally agree with you on this one . We only seek those we find attractive to us . Although our criteria won't be like kk , we like what we like . There are plenty of very fit and attractive swingers who will have no desire to play with very ordinary people like us . Why shouldn't they attend events geared to their type ? It seems like they host high quality events in classy surroundings with a strict criteria as to who may attend . What's wrong with that ? When we eat out , we may not fancy a McDonalds , we may want to pay more and eat in a fancy restaraunt . What's the difference ? Disclaimer : We would be perfectly happy with a McDonalds | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. Totally agree with you on this one . We only seek those we find attractive to us . Although our criteria won't be like kk , we like what we like . There are plenty of very fit and attractive swingers who will have no desire to play with very ordinary people like us . Why shouldn't they attend events geared to their type ? It seems like they host high quality events in classy surroundings with a strict criteria as to who may attend . What's wrong with that ? When we eat out , we may not fancy a McDonalds , we may want to pay more and eat in a fancy restaraunt . What's the difference ? Disclaimer : We would be perfectly happy with a McDonalds " Haha well put I party every weekend at the 'normal' clubs and wouldn't change it for the world ! My preference to parties are to go to ones where the I have a bloody good dance , good laugh and possibly play Don't care whether it's a £10 entry or £250 ... a good night is a good night !! (Although tbf would prefer that good night to be £10) pmsl | |||
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"Anyone else joined killing kittens?? Just wondering if it was worth joining? Xx" We got turned down for being" too" good looking. And amazing and awesome.. | |||
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"Party hard " Straying off topic, but maybe this should be the swinging male's motto | |||
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"Hi op! I'm a member of KK - but only because there doesn't seem to be any way of cancelling the direct debit! Putting the selection criteria aside - the site itself looks 'posh' but it's nowhere near as good as this one! Most are based in London and the south East so relatively few members in the north. The forums are barely used (last comment on many threads a week ago etc) and the parties are generally couples and single fems only (which doesn't appeal to me) and very expensive! Not been to one yet (was on my to-do list) but I saw a load of KK members at amour a couple of months ago (they'd been thrown out of their luxury rented Manchester apartment when it was discovered they were having a swinging party!) They'd all gone into the couples room and were playing on the large couples bed. I looked with interest as KK bills itself as parties for the elite - tbh it looked no different to any group session I've viewed in many clubs and they certainly weren't all stand-out gorgeous! I was relieved I hadn't payed the price to get into a luxury apartment only to be turfed out and have to travel to a club! I may still go to one of the singles parties (they're rare but they happen occasionally) one day but it's unlikely tbh! Having said that - I know people who love the whole thing! May be decide for yourselves by trying a party? - but I'd advise you not to subscribe to membership unless you love the parties/site and want to stay - because it seems impossible to un-subscribe! " Just go to your bank and cancel the direct debit. | |||
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"I'm too old. " Ha, ha , I'm too old to be on here! | |||
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"Hi op! I'm a member of KK - but only because there doesn't seem to be any way of cancelling the direct debit! Putting the selection criteria aside - the site itself looks 'posh' but it's nowhere near as good as this one! Most are based in London and the south East so relatively few members in the north. The forums are barely used (last comment on many threads a week ago etc) and the parties are generally couples and single fems only (which doesn't appeal to me) and very expensive! Not been to one yet (was on my to-do list) but I saw a load of KK members at amour a couple of months ago (they'd been thrown out of their luxury rented Manchester apartment when it was discovered they were having a swinging party!) They'd all gone into the couples room and were playing on the large couples bed. I looked with interest as KK bills itself as parties for the elite - tbh it looked no different to any group session I've viewed in many clubs and they certainly weren't all stand-out gorgeous! I was relieved I hadn't payed the price to get into a luxury apartment only to be turfed out and have to travel to a club! I may still go to one of the singles parties (they're rare but they happen occasionally) one day but it's unlikely tbh! Having said that - I know people who love the whole thing! May be decide for yourselves by trying a party? - but I'd advise you not to subscribe to membership unless you love the parties/site and want to stay - because it seems impossible to un-subscribe! " Just cancel the direct debit with your bank! | |||
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"I joined a few years back. It is very similar to being at a young conservatives dinner dance without the sexual action. Most people there were either vain or nervous, and the men were all bankers with rugby as a hobby who seemed to have either brought an escort or a woman who just stared and sipped her drink. In short it was a complete waste of money and just a way for wealthy young people to get laid, which hilariously many seemed incapable of doing. Last week a couple of d*unk students had a threesome in the local wspoons toilet. Im sure people at kittens would be talking about that and wishing they were there..." Heard many things about KK but never about the escort thing which has been mentioned twice now. Can't imagine that would be good for real couples. How did you know this, were they open about it? | |||
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"Do they have pork pies and Branston Pickle at the buffet? If not I'm not interested no matter how many times they ask me " And cheese and pineapple on sticks R they do that lad | |||
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"Way to go with the dumbass brand name." It's probably accurate given that it's likely full of wankers | |||
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"Are they the people who fart rose scent & pee wine ? " bubbles daaaaarling bubbles | |||
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"I'm too old. " They would be insane not to invite you!! Age is but a number!! | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. " Very true words | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. Very true words " | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. " This | |||
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" a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night " At 42 I may not be too old but I would still not be welcome because I'm fat. KK hates us fatties!!! What positive can you draw from that? | |||
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" a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night At 42 I may not be too old but I would still not be welcome because I'm fat. KK hates us fatties!!! What positive can you draw from that?" So you think everyone should fuck you no matter what? Do you fuck everyone that asks, even if you don't fancy them, no matter their age or anything? | |||
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"Join the worlds sexual elite. So expect snotty, arrogant and ignorant idiots whom have more money than sense. Sorry but any site which requires someone to jump through hoops to sign up is wrong....sizest, agest and ignorance from the start " Don't even go there which Elites? , I don't player hate but I can tell you they are no Elites, which Elite jumps through hoops? The real Elites don't even want you to know they are there , very silent and very real too. They enjoy natural people, the Elites have conquered life ,they don't need to prove anything to anyone | |||
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"I'm too old. " There is a silver kittens events but you be welcomed to all the others too.. know of lots of fabbers on kk. Had some good parties but their organisation skills are somewhat lacking these days.. that said I've meet up with lots of couples and kittens (just last night) and there doesn't seem to be as many fakers and wanna bes. Never been stood up or had a wagon turn up when I was expecting a mini... use it more to meet people and do small private parties these days rather than kk parties. Hope this helps. | |||
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"Its always somewhat sad to see people here malign others. We are not KK but help them host their Irish nights. KK caters to a particular section of the swing community and within that it trys to develop and grow the scene. Inside a year in Ireland we've gone from 20 people in a small apartment to a 100 in a mansion. Seeing the number of returnee couples we assume many of them enjoyed the night. Just maybe we provide the sort of play environment they enjoy. Nobody should be castigated for that. The posts on this thread sadly contain many inaccuracies (eg - the owner of KK is and always has been female; a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night etc). KK also tries to bring new people into the scene (the singles nights) to cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) and other social nights (the bookclubs, or the dining events). Its true that fabs is a more active website (and its great) but that's because the KK site is a gateway to organised events not a social community site like fab. We wish every other party host here (from commercial venues to small home parties, or those that arrange gang-bangs, fetish nights or those that just want BBC attendees or any other niche) all the best in their endeavours and attempts to help swinging in the UK. We hope you're all very successful and that we all help grow the lifestyle. And likewise we wish everyone, including those that say disparaging things, a great time in the lifestyle and urge them to focus on the positive. We do. " I think that's fair enough. Not for us, but you always respond very nicely. Happy swinging guys | |||
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"Its always somewhat sad to see people here malign others. We are not KK but help them host their Irish nights. KK caters to a particular section of the swing community and within that it trys to develop and grow the scene. Inside a year in Ireland we've gone from 20 people in a small apartment to a 100 in a mansion. Seeing the number of returnee couples we assume many of them enjoyed the night. Just maybe we provide the sort of play environment they enjoy. Nobody should be castigated for that. The posts on this thread sadly contain many inaccuracies (eg - the owner of KK is and always has been female; a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night etc). KK also tries to bring new people into the scene (the singles nights) to cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) and other social nights (the bookclubs, or the dining events). Its true that fabs is a more active website (and its great) but that's because the KK site is a gateway to organised events not a social community site like fab. We wish every other party host here (from commercial venues to small home parties, or those that arrange gang-bangs, fetish nights or those that just want BBC attendees or any other niche) all the best in their endeavours and attempts to help swinging in the UK. We hope you're all very successful and that we all help grow the lifestyle. And likewise we wish everyone, including those that say disparaging things, a great time in the lifestyle and urge them to focus on the positive. We do. " Well said I would like to point out that I have nothing negative to say about KK parties ... they work very well for the people that attend and I'm more of an observer at parties than a definate player ... considering I go to a club every week and probably play once every 2 months I class myself as a 'shit swinger' I hear negative and positive things about all clubs but as I always have done in the past prefer to find out for myself - what some people rave about others detest Horses for courses | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night " Yeah we have been too (just the once). We didn't like the pressure. For "elite" parties we always preferred Fever and went a LOT between 2003 and 2009. They were very classy parties but with absolutely no pressure. Used amazing venues including. Six month run at a huge duplex apartment in Canary Wharf. They always kept the socialising area and playing areas separate so people could go at their own pace. And they never had that stupid "everyone strips to their underwear at midnight" rule that Killing Kittens had (when we went anyway). KK was originally set up by a woman who was involved with Fever but they all fell out. I don't know if this is true but I was told she put hidden cameras at one of the parties and then sold a story to the tabloid press!!!! | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night Yeah we have been too (just the once). We didn't like the pressure. For "elite" parties we always preferred Fever and went a LOT between 2003 and 2009. They were very classy parties but with absolutely no pressure. Used amazing venues including. Six month run at a huge duplex apartment in Canary Wharf. They always kept the socialising area and playing areas separate so people could go at their own pace. And they never had that stupid "everyone strips to their underwear at midnight" rule that Killing Kittens had (when we went anyway). KK was originally set up by a woman who was involved with Fever but they all fell out. I don't know if this is true but I was told she put hidden cameras at one of the parties and then sold a story to the tabloid press!!!!" Hi there We're sorry you had a less that satisfactory experience at the KK party you attended. However - - there is no pressure to play at KK parties - we expressly state this in our rules to attendees - there is ample 'non-play' social space in each party. Indeed non-play space is usually much larger than play space - There is NO recording of parties (seriously people - why does anyone print crap like this - just out to damage others confidence in a party). - All cameras are banned from KK and our staff are constantly having to keep guests mobile use to a minimum to ensure nobody takes pictures (we'd rather lift everyones phone for the duration but people wont agree to that even with a fully attended cloakroom) - there is a rule that people arrive Masked and keep the mask on till a certain time. Although its not incredibly enforced beyond arriving for the drinks reception masked. There is no requirement anyone gets naked. Parties are only as good as their hosts and their guests - people are perfectly welcome to say they didn't enjoy any party but if we can keep it in the grounds of reality rather than engaging in playground gossip it would be helpful. | |||
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"Hi op! I'm a member of KK - but only because there doesn't seem to be any way of cancelling the direct debit! Putting the selection criteria aside - the site itself looks 'posh' but it's nowhere near as good as this one! Most are based in London and the south East so relatively few members in the north. The forums are barely used (last comment on many threads a week ago etc) and the parties are generally couples and single fems only (which doesn't appeal to me) and very expensive! Not been to one yet (was on my to-do list) but I saw a load of KK members at amour a couple of months ago (they'd been thrown out of their luxury rented Manchester apartment when it was discovered they were having a swinging party!) They'd all gone into the couples room and were playing on the large couples bed. I looked with interest as KK bills itself as parties for the elite - tbh it looked no different to any group session I've viewed in many clubs and they certainly weren't all stand-out gorgeous! I was relieved I hadn't payed the price to get into a luxury apartment only to be turfed out and have to travel to a club! I may still go to one of the singles parties (they're rare but they happen occasionally) one day but it's unlikely tbh! Having said that - I know people who love the whole thing! May be decide for yourselves by trying a party? - but I'd advise you not to subscribe to membership unless you love the parties/site and want to stay - because it seems impossible to un-subscribe! Just go to your bank and cancel the direct debit. " If you have online banking you can cancel the direct debit yourself, if you set up the direct debit using your credit or debit card then only the card issuer can cancel. If you don't want to have to explain to the card issuer what the payment is for , the easiest but not the best thing to do is tell the card issuer you have lost your card, your new card with new 3 digit security number can't be used for existing payments unless you authorise it, so technically your subscription to kk will end | |||
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"Killing kittens tends to garner some strong opinions on fab. They have very strict membership criteria regarding age and whether or not they think you are attractive enough to be part of their gang. You are both young so that part will be fine. From your profile and pictures I can see the female half is slim so again it would be fine. The male half us described as "ample" build on your profile. KK may decide he is too fat to join - they don't like overweight people joining their exclusive club. People who go to their parties seem to love it. On the flip side there are lots of people who either don't fit the selection criteria or who loathe the idea of not allowing people to join because they don't fit the organiser's idea of attractive. These people do hold very negative opinions of KK. For me personally: I'm both too old and too fat to be welcome there and to be honest I don't give a shit that they don't want me. There are plenty of other places I can go and have fun so I don't feel I'm missing out on anything. Even if I was welcome I wouldn't go because it is so expensive. For the prices they charge I can have a whole weekend away in a hotel up north and visit a couple of the excellent clubs in that part of the country." there's a hell of a lot of magic circles on fabswingers.cliques,groups or call It gangs all the same ... | |||
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"Spoke to a couple a week ago who told me about KK. They told me they loved it and I should check it out myself with the missus. He did mention that there are some guys who hire escorts to be their companion for the night so that aspect would put me off as I want to meet genuine swingers. " a lot do that on fab and take em to clubs. (Weird that) | |||
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"I,m too old and fat to go.......sniffs and blows nose in hanky :- " do you fart and burp out loud to lol | |||
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"So EVERYONE on this thread will fuck anyone that asks, huh?? I'm the opposite of what Killing Kittens are looking for but totally happy that they can have their parties. I only fuck people I'm attracted to and happy for other people to have that choice too. It's just another group of people wanting to meet others who they are attracted to. Like greedy girls or BMFC or BBW or couples or soft swap or whatever else. Good luck with whatever you decide OP. Yeah if I were 10/20 years younger I wouldn't be shagging the old duffers on here " haha beggars can't be choosers | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night " NO MEANS N0!!! | |||
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"Killing kittens tends to garner some strong opinions on fab. They have very strict membership criteria regarding age and whether or not they think you are attractive enough to be part of their gang. You are both young so that part will be fine. From your profile and pictures I can see the female half is slim so again it would be fine. The male half us described as "ample" build on your profile. KK may decide he is too fat to join - they don't like overweight people joining their exclusive club. People who go to their parties seem to love it. On the flip side there are lots of people who either don't fit the selection criteria or who loathe the idea of not allowing people to join because they don't fit the organiser's idea of attractive. These people do hold very negative opinions of KK. For me personally: I'm both too old and too fat to be welcome there and to be honest I don't give a shit that they don't want me. There are plenty of other places I can go and have fun so I don't feel I'm missing out on anything. Even if I was welcome I wouldn't go because it is so expensive. For the prices they charge I can have a whole weekend away in a hotel up north and visit a couple of the excellent clubs in that part of the country. there's a hell of a lot of magic circles on fabswingers.cliques,groups or call It gangs all the same ..." And they're hella annoying too. Ugly and fat running around criticizing event organisers because they dare to actually have clients who dont want to fuck 60 year old men and BBWs. The worst thing about the clique on this forum is the pretentiousness coupled with the false sense of moral superiority. | |||
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"For me it's like the difference between going to my local gym or going to the swanky expensive one. I feel far more relaxed at my local one where you see all different shapes, sizes, ages etc, than at the posh one where people spend more time eyeing themselves or each other up than actually exercising. If the "beautiful people" concept floats your boat then I'm sure you'd love it, but it's not for me. Then thats your own low self esteem and insecurity. Thats not KK's fault. Sorry, but I have and continue to meet plenty of gross, ugly women and couples on here who bark on about how "pretentious" attractive people are...and then you see the way many single men are treated on here. Have been treated like a stuntcock plenty of times on here by people who really are nothing special to look at. The idea that uglier Fab users are somehow nicer people is beyond erroneous. In fact, I would go as far as saying the uglier the couple on here...the significantly worse the experience has been. Not because of the fact that they were not conventionally attractive, but because non-conventionally attractive people allow sudden boosts of attention to get to their heads very fast. Whereas those more used to it tend to be more level headed about interest from the opposite sex. Firstly, in no way did I criticise Killing Kittens, I expressed my personal preference. I prefer environments that are open to every walk of life. I expressed my opinion, and didn't ask for your unqualified attempt at a psychological evaluation. Judging by the tone of your response, you seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the only people who don't like Killing Kittens are those deemed not attractive enough to go. I am apparently deemed attractive enough to attend, I just prefer not to. And like the other poster has very eloquently put, ugly comes in many forms. " Yeah, I would say the vast majority of the detraction in this very thread comes from the fact that people who take issue with the fact that KK has a policy on who and who they dont let attend their events according to the way they look. Other than the price, I would say there is absolutely nothing wrong with the way KK operates and, if anything, their policy on women centric swinging and the exclusion of single males actually made it a safer environment. There is a rather strange idea that dingy/less picky automatically means more "authentic". Its hogwash. | |||
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"I'm too fat for them oh how will I live with the disappointment " You could diet Fuck all we can do about being too old | |||
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"Surely everyone on fab has there own version of kk policy or everyone would fuck everyone on here." I don't charge for the privilege though | |||
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"Surely everyone on fab has there own version of kk policy or everyone would fuck everyone on here. Apart from those guys who would fuck anything" Yet they bitch and whine about other people having preferences about who they fuck. | |||
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"Join the worlds sexual elite. So expect snotty, arrogant and ignorant idiots whom have more money than sense. Sorry but any site which requires someone to jump through hoops to sign up is wrong....sizest, agest and ignorance from the start " To be fair I didn't jump through any hoops! I just registered and posted some pictures - just like I did on here! X | |||
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"Surely everyone on fab has there own version of kk policy or everyone would fuck everyone on here. Apart from those guys who would fuck anything" Exactly. Its what I cant stand about the comments here. "I can like what I like and even be discriminatory and rude about it but how dare YOU have a preference??!!!" Seriously...other than certain groups on here, the attitude pervade by many of these is straight up horrendous. But sadly, due to the men (as you stated) who will fuck anything...people tend to get away with it. | |||
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"Surely everyone on fab has there own version of kk policy or everyone would fuck everyone on here. Apart from those guys who would fuck anything Exactly. Its what I cant stand about the comments here. "I can like what I like and even be discriminatory and rude about it but how dare YOU have a preference??!!!" Seriously...other than certain groups on here, the attitude pervade by many of these is straight up horrendous. But sadly, due to the men (as you stated) who will fuck anything...people tend to get away with it. " I agree, the attitude on the forum that gets to me is when the ladies start with all this cheating thing, here they are, banging every cock they like and they want to tell the guys this is cheating or that is cheating. I am not having it, I don't do cliques, I also don't like their antics and games and I am always the first to tell them to keep their pussy I don't need it, I will always have ladies in excess supply without them, that is for sure. | |||
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"Surely everyone on fab has there own version of kk policy or everyone would fuck everyone on here. Apart from those guys who would fuck anything Exactly. Its what I cant stand about the comments here. "I can like what I like and even be discriminatory and rude about it but how dare YOU have a preference??!!!" Seriously...other than certain groups on here, the attitude pervade by many of these is straight up horrendous. But sadly, due to the men (as you stated) who will fuck anything...people tend to get away with it. I agree, the attitude on the forum that gets to me is when the ladies start with all this cheating thing, here they are, banging every cock they like and they want to tell the guys this is cheating or that is cheating. I am not having it, I don't do cliques, I also don't like their antics and games and I am always the first to tell them to keep their pussy I don't need it, I will always have ladies in excess supply without them, that is for sure." Ah missed you,where you been?! | |||
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"I don't like the name " The only contribution I can make here is: No kittens were killed in the making of this thread. I know I know it's not much, but... #meow | |||
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"I have been to killing kittens a few times It's very elitist and expensive and you have to submit full length pics to be accepted The parties are in lovely venues but you are paying for that and on the whole everyone is attractive but still doesn't mean they are my type It's expected that you play really and I don't like to feel any pressure so depends what you want out of a night Yeah we have been too (just the once). We didn't like the pressure. For "elite" parties we always preferred Fever and went a LOT between 2003 and 2009. They were very classy parties but with absolutely no pressure. Used amazing venues including. Six month run at a huge duplex apartment in Canary Wharf. They always kept the socialising area and playing areas separate so people could go at their own pace. And they never had that stupid "everyone strips to their underwear at midnight" rule that Killing Kittens had (when we went anyway). KK was originally set up by a woman who was involved with Fever but they all fell out. I don't know if this is true but I was told she put hidden cameras at one of the parties and then sold a story to the tabloid press!!!! Hi there We're sorry you had a less that satisfactory experience at the KK party you attended. However - - there is no pressure to play at KK parties - we expressly state this in our rules to attendees - there is ample 'non-play' social space in each party. Indeed non-play space is usually much larger than play space - There is NO recording of parties (seriously people - why does anyone print crap like this - just out to damage others confidence in a party). - All cameras are banned from KK and our staff are constantly having to keep guests mobile use to a minimum to ensure nobody takes pictures (we'd rather lift everyones phone for the duration but people wont agree to that even with a fully attended cloakroom) - there is a rule that people arrive Masked and keep the mask on till a certain time. Although its not incredibly enforced beyond arriving for the drinks reception masked. There is no requirement anyone gets naked. Parties are only as good as their hosts and their guests - people are perfectly welcome to say they didn't enjoy any party but if we can keep it in the grounds of reality rather than engaging in playground gossip it would be helpful. " Defo don't want to get into an argument but if you read what we said it was a reference to hidden cameras at a Fever Party not KK. It was because of this the Fever guys and Lady that subsequently went on to set up KK fell out. Once she was no longer involved in Fever she set up KK. I wasn't saying that has ever happened at KK. As for the pressure to play. Absolutely agree it is not overt but for US the simple act of insisting everyone strips to underwear at a given time is pressure and just not classy. Now admittedly.we went several years ago and things may have changed (hopefully) but in OUR experience Fever was far better than KK. Good luck though as nothing wrong with parties catering for upmarket tastes. | |||
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"I don't like the name It's not very nice is it Isn't it a reference to the idea that every time a woman has an orgasm a kitten someone dies?not sure where it comes from? That's it no more orgasms then!" Back in the early 2000s there was an internet meme that 'every time you masturbate, God kills a kitten'. So by coming to KK and having sex rather than masturbating.. you're saving kittens. | |||
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"Their parties are £100/£160 per couple .. can be more .. good luck!! Not for us real people " so about the average cost of mwbership/entry for a single dude to a normal club? | |||
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"Spoke to a couple a week ago who told me about KK. They told me they loved it and I should check it out myself with the missus. He did mention that there are some guys who hire escorts to be their companion for the night so that aspect would put me off as I want to meet genuine swingers. " just to point out here this is fairly common for nornal swinging clubs too | |||
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"We absolutely love killing kittens. Going to their cabaret tomorrow and very excited! We are by no means Brad and angina ... Yes the people who go are generally attractive but by no means supermodels. Well not that we have experienced. We do tend to be attracted to classier couples - they are our type. We have had a couple of experiences which almost put us off for life .... One being turning up for a meet where the male was fitted with a criminal tag and failed to tell us. So we feel that Kk is a better fit for us where gangbangs, greedy girls, bdsm, bi men aren't. Therefore we steer clear ... Doesn't mean it's wrong or I bitch, it means it's not for us! I don't particularly like the attitude of a lot of single women on here. They quite often show little respect for others, and quite frankly think they are supermodels when infact in the real world would struggle to even get a drink bought for them in a bar. Yet can bitch about something that other people are interested in. (Before anyone rants I haven't said all single women) The parties are brill. Absolutely no pressure, infact very friendly. For every party we have been to we have been involved in a kik group, where we have chatted and arranged to meet in a bar before we go to the venue. Yes it is a Hilton roof top bar, but again I prefer this to a Whetherspoons! I haven't noticed any hookers but what do hookers look like? I'd say the parties are a bit classier than the clubs I've been to. Personally groups of old men wanking watching people have sex isn't my thing ... This doesn't happen at kk parties. I would highly recommend, people have good and bad experiences all the time but it's what you make of it. Anyway, have an appointment at the salon later to get waxed and polished ready for tomorrow " Will you let us know how you get on and if you spot those hookers some people have mentioned, and as for all those attractive people, how dare they... | |||
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"From all the moaning about the cost!! You would think that the average fab moaner spends a grand total of £20 on a normal night out including the taxi home and a kebab... £100 is standard for a night out in most cities these days... maybe if you wasn't so sure/scared of rejection as in most walks of your normal life, you would maybe actually enjoy it" I'm not moaning about the cost, I'm moaning I'm too old | |||
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"From all the moaning about the cost!! You would think that the average fab moaner spends a grand total of £20 on a normal night out including the taxi home and a kebab... £100 is standard for a night out in most cities these days... maybe if you wasn't so sure/scared of rejection as in most walks of your normal life, you would maybe actually enjoy it" yeah especialy when events like say torture garden a spirt and mixer will set you back 10+ quid a go | |||
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"From all the moaning about the cost!! You would think that the average fab moaner spends a grand total of £20 on a normal night out including the taxi home and a kebab... £100 is standard for a night out in most cities these days... maybe if you wasn't so sure/scared of rejection as in most walks of your normal life, you would maybe actually enjoy it" I spend about £20-£25 on a night out. So yeah, it all seems a bit expensive to me. | |||
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"From all the moaning about the cost!! You would think that the average fab moaner spends a grand total of £20 on a normal night out including the taxi home and a kebab... £100 is standard for a night out in most cities these days... maybe if you wasn't so sure/scared of rejection as in most walks of your normal life, you would maybe actually enjoy it I'm not moaning about the cost, I'm moaning I'm too old " You're not too old! | |||
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"Anyway I need some tips on how to spend 25£ on a night out!! " I thinks that's a McDonalds night out because Burger King and KFC would be more | |||
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"Anyway I need some tips on how to spend 25£ on a night out!! " No taxis (I walk to and from town. It's only a mile). £7 pizza at The Hop in York. I drink cider, at £3-£4 a pint, with a limit of 3 ciders (4 if I want to get really d*unk). That's a night out for £25 or less. And I go dancing at some pubs in York - so no cover. | |||
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"Every person I know who's been has said the same thing; everyone is beautiful but the sex part is dull" Ppppphahahahahhaha now this tickled my pickle | |||
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"Anyone else joined killing kittens?? Just wondering if it was worth joining? Xx" We have been to a couple of KK parties and it was fun. We are going again in October Some parties are just parties; some are with a cabaret; some with dinner and some with dinner and cabaret My husband is 42 but since I am over 45, we joined Silver Kittens which is exclusively for over 45s And, yes, they are selective on who attends the parties; not a bad thing, in our opionion - Mrs. J - | |||
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" Then thats your own low self esteem and insecurity. Thats not KK's fault. Sorry, but I have and continue to meet plenty of gross, ugly women and couples on here who bark on about how "pretentious" attractive people are...and then you see the way many single men are treated on here. Have been treated like a stuntcock plenty of times on here by people who really are nothing special to look at. The idea that uglier Fab users are somehow nicer people is beyond erroneous. In fact, I would go as far as saying the uglier the couple on here...the significantly worse the experience has been. Not because of the fact that they were not conventionally attractive, but because non-conventionally attractive people allow sudden boosts of attention to get to their heads very fast. Whereas those more used to it tend to be more level headed about interest from the opposite sex. " Say it how it is | |||
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" Then thats your own low self esteem and insecurity. Thats not KK's fault. Sorry, but I have and continue to meet plenty of gross, ugly women and couples on here who bark on about how "pretentious" attractive people are...and then you see the way many single men are treated on here. Have been treated like a stuntcock plenty of times on here by people who really are nothing special to look at. The idea that uglier Fab users are somehow nicer people is beyond erroneous. In fact, I would go as far as saying the uglier the couple on here...the significantly worse the experience has been. Not because of the fact that they were not conventionally attractive, but because non-conventionally attractive people allow sudden boosts of attention to get to their heads very fast. Whereas those more used to it tend to be more level headed about interest from the opposite sex. Say it how it is " I couldn't agree more | |||
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"Do they have single males at KK parties? Yeah I know single guys who've attended as a single. I don't know how though, because it wasn't obvious on the website when we were looking into it. Mrs Single males are not able to attend as singles. No male will be allowed over the door of a party without a female companion. All couples are told that the male is to remain in the company of their female companion all night and KK staff are instructed to remove from playrooms any males loitering by themselves. Obviously KK does not and cannot police whether people are married / in a long term relationship / fuck buddies / partnered up for the night. All they can do is require people enter the party as a couple and stay together for the duration of the party. KK does run 'singles' events in London as there are sufficient single female members to permit such an event. Elsewhere, despite extremely strong demand from males, there isn't the female demand for such events." Arhh ok that makes sense. I'm guessing the single males we are friends with went to one of the singles events | |||
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"When it comes to cost, we are a couple that only goes to clubs or parties about twice a year. We would rather spend a bit more and really make an event of it, and guarantee that the people there we are attracted to, rather than spend less and go somewhere that they let anyone in (if you couldn't tell we are rather picky haha). Just our two pence xx" no matter where you go, no matter how much you pay, you'll never go somewhere where there is a guarantee there will be people you are attracted to. Selective parties where there is a physical criteria to match may increase the prospects but the only guarantee is that those attending will be who the organiser is attracted to...or those who fit more conventional concepts of attractiveness always remembering that those change almost constantly... that's pretty much true of any party i suppose. I'm not offended on my own behalf that i wouldnt be deemed suitable. This hobby is pretty much able to sustain all kinds of people at all levels isn't it? | |||
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"Its always somewhat sad to see people here malign others. We are not KK but help them host their Irish nights. KK caters to a particular section of the swing community and within that it trys to develop and grow the scene. Inside a year in Ireland we've gone from 20 people in a small apartment to a 100 in a mansion. Seeing the number of returnee couples we assume many of them enjoyed the night. Just maybe we provide the sort of play environment they enjoy. Nobody should be castigated for that. The posts on this thread sadly contain many inaccuracies (eg - the owner of KK is and always has been female; a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night etc). KK also tries to bring new people into the scene (the singles nights) to cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) and other social nights (the bookclubs, or the dining events). Its true that fabs is a more active website (and its great) but that's because the KK site is a gateway to organised events not a social community site like fab. We wish every other party host here (from commercial venues to small home parties, or those that arrange gang-bangs, fetish nights or those that just want BBC attendees or any other niche) all the best in their endeavours and attempts to help swinging in the UK. We hope you're all very successful and that we all help grow the lifestyle. And likewise we wish everyone, including those that say disparaging things, a great time in the lifestyle and urge them to focus on the positive. We do. " " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events. | |||
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" " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events." There are many nights that are events open to all ages, like the cabaret we went to last night | |||
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" " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events. There are many nights that are events open to all ages, like the cabaret we went to last night " lol you're 19 & 21 | |||
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"Its always somewhat sad to see people here malign others. We are not KK but help them host their Irish nights. KK caters to a particular section of the swing community and within that it trys to develop and grow the scene. Inside a year in Ireland we've gone from 20 people in a small apartment to a 100 in a mansion. Seeing the number of returnee couples we assume many of them enjoyed the night. Just maybe we provide the sort of play environment they enjoy. Nobody should be castigated for that. The posts on this thread sadly contain many inaccuracies (eg - the owner of KK is and always has been female; a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night etc). KK also tries to bring new people into the scene (the singles nights) to cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) and other social nights (the bookclubs, or the dining events). Its true that fabs is a more active website (and its great) but that's because the KK site is a gateway to organised events not a social community site like fab. We wish every other party host here (from commercial venues to small home parties, or those that arrange gang-bangs, fetish nights or those that just want BBC attendees or any other niche) all the best in their endeavours and attempts to help swinging in the UK. We hope you're all very successful and that we all help grow the lifestyle. And likewise we wish everyone, including those that say disparaging things, a great time in the lifestyle and urge them to focus on the positive. We do. " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events." We asked about that. I'm within the age for a regular night but hubby is older. We were told we would need to attend silver kittens. We weren't sure if we wanted to do that though, but that's our choice. Mrs | |||
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"Its always somewhat sad to see people here malign others. We are not KK but help them host their Irish nights. KK caters to a particular section of the swing community and within that it trys to develop and grow the scene. Inside a year in Ireland we've gone from 20 people in a small apartment to a 100 in a mansion. Seeing the number of returnee couples we assume many of them enjoyed the night. Just maybe we provide the sort of play environment they enjoy. Nobody should be castigated for that. The posts on this thread sadly contain many inaccuracies (eg - the owner of KK is and always has been female; a 42 year old lady is not too old for our standard KK night etc). KK also tries to bring new people into the scene (the singles nights) to cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) and other social nights (the bookclubs, or the dining events). Its true that fabs is a more active website (and its great) but that's because the KK site is a gateway to organised events not a social community site like fab. We wish every other party host here (from commercial venues to small home parties, or those that arrange gang-bangs, fetish nights or those that just want BBC attendees or any other niche) all the best in their endeavours and attempts to help swinging in the UK. We hope you're all very successful and that we all help grow the lifestyle. And likewise we wish everyone, including those that say disparaging things, a great time in the lifestyle and urge them to focus on the positive. We do. " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events. We asked about that. I'm within the age for a regular night but hubby is older. We were told we would need to attend silver kittens. We weren't sure if we wanted to do that though, but that's our choice. Mrs" we would prefer to mix with all ages rather than be restricted to under 42 or over 42 | |||
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" " To cater to a wider age range (the Silver Kittens nights) " So if older and younger people want to meet they can't due to age restrictions? I'm 49, other half is 29, we wouldn't be able to attend the same events. There are many nights that are events open to all ages, like the cabaret we went to last night lol you're 19 & 21" And? There were plenty of couples with an age gap like yourself there last night, there are definitely events you both would be able to attend that would have a large age range. | |||
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