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"What do people think is a fair contribution to make to attend a gangbang party in a hotel? I've no objection to chipping in for the cost of a room, as I know some people can't accommodate and it's only fair to split the cost between those who have the fun. I've previously paid £20 or £30 very happily to people for meets like this, to cover costs. But yesterday I was asked to "contribute" £100 towards the cost of a hotel room to attend a gangbang in a central Manchester hotel. Apparently drinks and snacks were included...! I declined - that feels like it's basically prostitution, as far as I'm concerned. Obviously The Dorchester costs a bit more than a Travelodge, and I was told this was a swanky hotel - but I just wonder what other people think. " If you've paid previously surely that is prostitution too OP? | |||
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"Yes its prostitution. " I disagree - prostitution involves profit by the woman (the prostitute), or her fella. Nobody can hire a hotel room for free so if 3-4 guys are chipping in £20 or so each, we're basically helping the couple who've paid for the room to cover their costs. Usually it's been an afternoon meet with a local couple, so they wouldn't have hired the room other than to have the gangbang. Obviously money is changing hands, but as I see it we're all having fun and we're all sharing the cost of the room. The couple don't end up richer than they started as they've contributed too. Anyone else got a view? | |||
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"I went to 1 in a travel lodge in london £75 maximum for the room 14 guys turned up each paying £40. They were there all night & i know another 6 verified them afterwards. It may not be prostitution but its certainly not expenses . If theyd bought decent kit rather than £40 in ann summers you might suffer it . No food or drink supplied ." Calculated that £560 exchanged hands that night, so there was profit above the £75 hotel fee!!! | |||
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"Yes its prostitution. I disagree - prostitution involves profit by the woman (the prostitute), or her fella. Nobody can hire a hotel room for free so if 3-4 guys are chipping in £20 or so each, we're basically helping the couple who've paid for the room to cover their costs. Usually it's been an afternoon meet with a local couple, so they wouldn't have hired the room other than to have the gangbang. Obviously money is changing hands, but as I see it we're all having fun and we're all sharing the cost of the room. The couple don't end up richer than they started as they've contributed too. Anyone else got a view? " Firstly, let me remind you what the OP said..." But yesterday I was asked to "contribute" £100 towards the cost of a hotel room...." We are not talking about £20. It's a matter of numbers. If a hotel room costs say £90 for the night and there is a gangbang and 6 guys pay £100 each then the margin is a bit much to say they contribute to costs. I have hotel meets. I agree with the guys beforehand to share the cost equally amongst us all. So if its £50 and there are 5 of us its £10 each. If i charged £100 for each guy I would be a whore, and I'm not! | |||
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"Yes its prostitution. I disagree - prostitution involves profit by the woman (the prostitute), or her fella. Nobody can hire a hotel room for free so if 3-4 guys are chipping in £20 or so each, we're basically helping the couple who've paid for the room to cover their costs. Usually it's been an afternoon meet with a local couple, so they wouldn't have hired the room other than to have the gangbang. Obviously money is changing hands, but as I see it we're all having fun and we're all sharing the cost of the room. The couple don't end up richer than they started as they've contributed too. Anyone else got a view? Firstly, let me remind you what the OP said..." But yesterday I was asked to "contribute" £100 towards the cost of a hotel room...." We are not talking about £20. It's a matter of numbers. If a hotel room costs say £90 for the night and there is a gangbang and 6 guys pay £100 each then the margin is a bit much to say they contribute to costs. I have hotel meets. I agree with the guys beforehand to share the cost equally amongst us all. So if its £50 and there are 5 of us its £10 each. If i charged £100 for each guy I would be a whore, and I'm not! " Equal contribution to cover the hotel cost is acceptable but £560 over and above the room rate is a bit much. I presume the organisers pocketed that.....thats prostitution surely. | |||
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"Was only thinking about this today as planning a hotel session and looking at hotel prices (...think we'll skip the b&b's for this one!!) and for a Saturday night in town in a decent hotel looking at £100. So think it's fair to for all to share cost. While many would like to host with kids it's simply not appropriate for many nor are all comfortable making home address freely available. Of course it depends how many are invited, if just one guy that's still £50 each. Here's a thought....ask for £50 up front with a £40 refund for those that show ....or am I being cynical!! " Oh that's a great idea! There are a few swanky apartments and air bnb's in manchester that are not cheap and would cost more money, but even the nicest hotels in manc are £150-£200 for the night, would be a small gangbang for £100 each contribution. That or I'd be expecting really nice champagne.... | |||
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" Here's a thought....ask for £50 up front with a £40 refund for those that show ....or am I being cynical!! " Cracking idea, although imagine 15 guys turning up at a hotel one night, and the 'organisers' don't show......... | |||
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"Just wondering really how one can properly organise a gangbang charging to share the cost:- 1) Numbers attending is unknown. 2) What if no one turns up? 3) How can you expect money up front? Seems very awkward to plan. " If you do it properly guys will turn up. We have organised gbs of three types 1. Set fee for each guy. That usually gives you a profit, which can be nice but as we see above many women are uneasy being effectively paid for sex. 2. Divide the cost equally between guys who turn up. Problem with that is that guys don't know what they have to pay in advance and if you get latecomers you have to mess around with refunds. 3. Bear the cost ourselves. We tend to prefer this now. Advantages are you get a better turn out and have no obligation to the guys. The woman can give up when she wants, without guys feeling that as they have paid they are entitled to something. Downside is that not everyone can afford the cost of a decent room. | |||
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"Costs should be itemised up front, under the proviso that they will be shared between the people who attend. Therefore everyone knows how much it has all cost and no one is left feeling a bit cheesed off about their share. This seems perfectly fair to me. To ask for a specific amount of money up front? Nah..." Problem though is that if your expenses are £100 and you invite ten guys, ten might turn up or two might so the expense for a guy could be anything from £10 to £50 | |||
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"When i used to do gangbangs there was no charge. I did them in a friends flat so no hotel charge. But i used to provide condoms, wipes, soft drinks. Thats all you need" This sounds a brilliant idea if one has contacts with accommodation | |||
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"Just wondering really how one can properly organise a gangbang charging to share the cost:- 1) Numbers attending is unknown. 2) What if no one turns up? 3) How can you expect money up front? Seems very awkward to plan. If you do it properly guys will turn up. We have organised gbs of three types 1. Set fee for each guy. That usually gives you a profit, which can be nice but as we see above many women are uneasy being effectively paid for sex. 2. Divide the cost equally between guys who turn up. Problem with that is that guys don't know what they have to pay in advance and if you get latecomers you have to mess around with refunds. 3. Bear the cost ourselves. We tend to prefer this now. Advantages are you get a better turn out and have no obligation to the guys. The woman can give up when she wants, without guys feeling that as they have paid they are entitled to something. Downside is that not everyone can afford the cost of a decent room. " 3 good suggestions above ... my thoughts are... 1. To be realistic in covering the costs, a fixed fee must predict the contribution based on the minimum number attending. So a "profit" is almost inevitable and this can be easily seen by the men who attend. For me, if I was handed the balance of say £100 after a gangbang meet, however nice it may be, I would feel like a whore and would almost certainly be viewed as one by the other gangbangers. 2. If you calculate the contribution after all the guys arrived then it should not involve refunds. But a good idea.. 3. I cannot pay myself. Not having my own accomodation that is the hardest thing I face. But if you can afford it, it is fair because it is the girl who usually gets most out of it. | |||
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"They wanted the gangbang, it's their choice to have it that hotel. They should pay. No money needs to change hands. We would never ask for contributions towards a meet. " | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. " So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! " Bog standard travel lodge but you'll be asked to cough up £100 to cover costs. | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! Bog standard travel lodge but you'll be asked to cough up £100 to cover costs. " My question is would you 'cough up' £100 to cover costs of a 'bog standard' travel lodge? Also how does one get guests to the room? For example 10-15 men in a hotel room! Surely the hotel are going to suspect? How does one get around that? | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! Bog standard travel lodge but you'll be asked to cough up £100 to cover costs. My question is would you 'cough up' £100 to cover costs of a 'bog standard' travel lodge? Also how does one get guests to the room? For example 10-15 men in a hotel room! Surely the hotel are going to suspect? How does one get around that? " For a large meet no. If a 1-1 yes of course. Some hotels don't require a key card so it isn't impossible to get people in and out. Surely there is a market for swinging hotels with larger rooms and beds | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! Bog standard travel lodge but you'll be asked to cough up £100 to cover costs. My question is would you 'cough up' £100 to cover costs of a 'bog standard' travel lodge? Also how does one get guests to the room? For example 10-15 men in a hotel room! Surely the hotel are going to suspect? How does one get around that? For a large meet no. If a 1-1 yes of course. Some hotels don't require a key card so it isn't impossible to get people in and out. Surely there is a market for swinging hotels with larger rooms and beds " Do you seriously think hotels will admit/advertise to hosting swinging gang bangs? Seriously? | |||
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"You see gangbang meets advertised on here, some are blatantly money making schemes for the couple/ladies. If you choose to participate in one of these then you are participating in prostitution, pure and simple. I think we all pay for our hobbies, I pay for my bike, my gym membership. I see no difference in that if a lady is having a gangbang, it is her hobby, it is what she desires; so why should she not foot the bill for the hotel room? Just think it's a lot easier for the host to provide the venue, avoids allegations of profiteering or a sense of entitlement from dirty old men who come along clutching their £20 notes in order to empty their saggy sacks! " | |||
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"As a couple who have arranged a number of gangbangs over the last couple of years, we are aware that this is an interesting discussion and also a difficult one to answer. As we have the advantage of being able to accommodate, we don't charge guys to participate, although we do think it fair to ask the guys to bring condoms and a drink for themselves (and maybe for our fem half too). If we weren't in this position and had to front the bill for a room, we would expect the guys to contribute at least a nominal amount. It is almost impossible to know how many guys will turn up due to the number of fantasists and bottlers so you would have to 'best guess'. Some times you may make a small profit, some times you'll have to make up the bill. From the perspective of the guys, if you think that a couple/lady are asking for too much to 'cover costs' or you're comfortable contributing then don't ask for an invite in the first place. So if the men are paying do they get a say in which hotel? I certainly would want to be involved with the hotel choice if I'm parting with hard earned cash! Bog standard travel lodge but you'll be asked to cough up £100 to cover costs. My question is would you 'cough up' £100 to cover costs of a 'bog standard' travel lodge? Also how does one get guests to the room? For example 10-15 men in a hotel room! Surely the hotel are going to suspect? How does one get around that? For a large meet no. If a 1-1 yes of course. Some hotels don't require a key card so it isn't impossible to get people in and out. Surely there is a market for swinging hotels with larger rooms and beds Do you seriously think hotels will admit/advertise to hosting swinging gang bangs? Seriously? " No real difference to a swingers club really but would have the added bonus of people being able to stay | |||
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"You see gangbang meets advertised on here, some are blatantly money making schemes for the couple/ladies. If you choose to participate in one of these then you are participating in prostitution, pure and simple. I think we all pay for our hobbies, I pay for my bike, my gym membership. I see no difference in that if a lady is having a gangbang, it is her hobby, it is what she desires; so why should she not foot the bill for the hotel room? Just think it's a lot easier for the host to provide the venue, avoids allegations of profiteering or a sense of entitlement from dirty old men who come along clutching their £20 notes in order to empty their saggy sacks! " That's the first time I've heard of a gang bang classed as a woman's 'hobby'!!! | |||
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"You see gangbang meets advertised on here, some are blatantly money making schemes for the couple/ladies. If you choose to participate in one of these then you are participating in prostitution, pure and simple. I think we all pay for our hobbies, I pay for my bike, my gym membership. I see no difference in that if a lady is having a gangbang, it is her hobby, it is what she desires; so why should she not foot the bill for the hotel room? Just think it's a lot easier for the host to provide the venue, avoids allegations of profiteering or a sense of entitlement from dirty old men who come along clutching their £20 notes in order to empty their saggy sacks! That's the first time I've heard of a gang bang classed as a woman's 'hobby'!!! " Is it a pastime? A sport? I struggled. | |||
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"You see gangbang meets advertised on here, some are blatantly money making schemes for the couple/ladies. If you choose to participate in one of these then you are participating in prostitution, pure and simple. I think we all pay for our hobbies, I pay for my bike, my gym membership. I see no difference in that if a lady is having a gangbang, it is her hobby, it is what she desires; so why should she not foot the bill for the hotel room? Just think it's a lot easier for the host to provide the venue, avoids allegations of profiteering or a sense of entitlement from dirty old men who come along clutching their £20 notes in order to empty their saggy sacks! That's the first time I've heard of a gang bang classed as a woman's 'hobby'!!! Is it a pastime? A sport? I struggled. " The definition of hobby does match it but I would say it's a way of life, a kink. People will disagree so appogies for this. | |||
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" Here's a thought....ask for £50 up front with a £40 refund for those that show ....or am I being cynical!! Cracking idea, although imagine 15 guys turning up at a hotel one night, and the 'organisers' don't show........." lol....hadn't thought of that! | |||
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"Yes its prostitution. " Yes it is, just what I was about to say. | |||
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"Thanks everyone for some interesting and thought provoking comments - from all corners of the discussion. Most people seem to think that an equal split of the costs is reasonable, but the issues are around practicalities. In my experience: - Not everyone arrives at the same time. Some turn up once playing has already started. - Likewise some guys will often need to leave before the end. So when's the best time to declare the numbers as final and work out the cost share? Nobody wants to break up the fun while we all delve in our wallets! - And how do the guys decide whether or not to attend if they don't know the cost up front? If I think 8 guys are coming but only 3 show up, it might then work out more than I'm willing to pay. So I leave - and that puts the cost even higher for the 2 guys who are left! I guess it's never possible to please everyone or find a perfect solution, but an interesting discussion! PS - to the point about the hotel being suspicious....it's just a bit of research to find a hotel where you can walk in and straight to the rooms without having to swipe a key. Plenty will let visitors do that. Then guys just need to arrive in 1's and 2's a few mins apart. The bigger problem is having 15 horny guys and a couple in a Premier Inn room for the afternoon. There's just nowhere for all the piles of clothes!! " Exactly why I don't agree with 'sharing the cost'. It gives everything a seedy element in my view. Money changing hands and sex dont go hand in glove without connotations of prostitution. I haven't been with a woman that I think we be happy with that and I don't intend on being. Far from classy in my opinion. | |||
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"Okay okay hold on. Who is claiming 15 blokes off here will all turn up to a planned private party. Fuckin hilarious that one " its doable but you would have to invite at least 50 blokes to have 15 turn up | |||
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"Okay okay hold on. Who is claiming 15 blokes off here will all turn up to a planned private party. Fuckin hilarious that one " I went to one (which, incidentally, was at the home of one of the guys and so didn't involve any payment) and where there were 21 guys and a couple. We were invited to go upstairs to the bedroom in groups of 5 at a time... He'd invited about 25 fellas thinking he'd get about 10 to show up. The lady was very accommodating of us all, though!! | |||
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"Yes its prostitution. I disagree - prostitution involves profit by the woman (the prostitute), or her fella. Nobody can hire a hotel room for free so if 3-4 guys are chipping in £20 or so each, we're basically helping the couple who've paid for the room to cover their costs. Usually it's been an afternoon meet with a local couple, so they wouldn't have hired the room other than to have the gangbang. Obviously money is changing hands, but as I see it we're all having fun and we're all sharing the cost of the room. The couple don't end up richer than they started as they've contributed too. Anyone else got a view? " Some guy has hired a prostitute/escort and wants you to pay for it. He's probably already staying in a hotel. | |||
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