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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven

Firstly I realise that many women on here enjoy bashing any guy that says anything against the usual 'women are perfect' messages. I have been involved in this lifestyle for a very long time, so the usual remarks of 'another single guy moaning' will come from the exact type of woman who I will describe.

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail. Do all of these things also appear on male profiles? Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly?

We should have all of what we seek, but fear that fewer people who enjoy NSA sex are being forced from the scene. What are your thoughts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I like men who can spell correctly as I like them to be intelligent enough to have a conversation with as well as shag ( apologies to all true dyslexics and people on phones with small keyboards)

I put preferences because just because sex is NSA doesn't mean 'a free for all come and get it' xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Supply and demand, simples

Women on here supply what the men demand. There are less suppliers than those demanding, so the supplier can be very choose.

You will probably bee better off on a free dating site, bit more balanced there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like men who can spell correctly as I like them to be intelligent enough to have a conversation with as well as shag ( apologies to all true dyslexics and people on phones with small keyboards)

I put preferences because just because sex is NSA doesn't mean 'a free for all come and get it' xxx"

I see your preferences are hide and seek

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been accused of being demanding, and i do have a list similar to the one you've described. For me, it's about getting the right experiences with the right people. I'm not looking for a shag every night of the week, and I'm prepared to wait a long time to get someone I click with, in every way.

It may not look like I have a face pic as it's not in my gallery. I do have one in private, but I only send it when I have received a message and pic from someone I'm interested in.

I'm also very particular about spelling and messages in general, as I'm highly aroused by intelligent men.

People can be as specific as they want, and women doubly so as we have a wider choice of candidates. Personally, I don't go for 'nsa' as I like to be freinds with my sexual partners. And bear in mind that this is a swinging site, not an nsa site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Firstly I realise that many women on here enjoy bashing any guy that says anything against the usual 'women are perfect' messages. I have been involved in this lifestyle for a very long time, so the usual remarks of 'another single guy moaning' will come from the exact type of woman who I will describe.

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed

the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail. Do all of these things also appear on male profiles? Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly?

We should have all of what we seek, but fear

that fewer people who enjoy NSA sex are being forced from the scene. What are your thoughts?

"

I have noticed similar things, I often give these profile a wide berth , we all have preferences but some people take the piss, and have very unreslistic expectations .I would like a 3sine with

the Minogue sisters but I doubt it will happen

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over a year ago

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Supply and demand, simples

Women on here supply what the men demand. There are less suppliers than those demanding, so the supplier can be very choose.

You will probably bee better off on a free dating site, bit more balanced there."

Totally agree with supply and demand, but over the years have played with people whom probably would not have spoken to in a vanilla bar. I think we may quickly lose the social, get to know people element of swinging?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Firstly I realise that many women on here enjoy bashing any guy that says anything against the usual 'women are perfect' messages. I have been involved in this lifestyle for a very long time, so the usual remarks of 'another single guy moaning' will come from the exact type of woman who I will describe.

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail. Do all of these things also appear on male profiles? Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly?

We should have all of what we seek, but fear that fewer people who enjoy NSA sex are being forced from the scene. What are your thoughts?

"

My thoughts are that if you fitted her bill you wouldn't be bleating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been accused of being demanding, and i do have a list similar to the one you've described. For me, it's about getting the right experiences with the right people. I'm not looking for a shag every night of the week, and I'm prepared to wait a long time to get someone I click with, in every way.

It may not look like I have a face pic as it's not in

my gallery. I do have one in private, but I only send it when I have received a message and pic from someone I'm interested in.

I'm also very particular about spelling and messages in general, as I'm highly aroused by intelligent men.

People can be as specific as they want, and

women doubly so as we have a wider choice of candidates. Personally, I don't go for 'nsa' as I like to be freinds with my sexual partners. And bear in mind that this is a swinging site, not an nsa site."

Good spelling is not a good indicator of good intelligence, most people have spell checkers

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"I've been accused of being demanding, and i do have a list similar to the one you've described. For me, it's about getting the right experiences with the right people. I'm not looking for a shag every night of the week, and I'm prepared to wait a long time to get someone I click with, in every way.

It may not look like I have a face pic as it's not in my gallery. I do have one in private, but I only send it when I have received a message and pic from someone I'm interested in.

I'm also very particular about spelling and messages in general, as I'm highly aroused by intelligent men.

People can be as specific as they want, and women doubly so as we have a wider choice of candidates. Personally, I don't go for 'nsa' as I like to be freinds with my sexual partners. And bear in mind that this is a swinging site, not an nsa site."

Someone to click with. What does that mean on a swinging site. Sexually I understand but my educational and vocational achievements do not allow me to use my body to satisfy a lady.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Supply and demand, simples

Women on here supply what the men demand. There are less suppliers than those demanding, so the supplier can be very choose.

You will probably bee better off on a free dating site, bit more balanced there."

This kind of comment is really annoying. There ARE more men here than women granted but we are NOT here to supply what men demand. If that were the case we'd demand payment.

Does it ever cross anyones mind that women like sex too ?

I get sick of the blokes who say ..oooooooo i have such a high sex drive....... No shit sherlock.

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Firstly I realise that many women on here enjoy bashing any guy that says anything against the usual 'women are perfect' messages. I have been involved in this lifestyle for a very long time, so the usual remarks of 'another single guy moaning' will come from the exact type of woman who I will describe.

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail. Do all of these things also appear on male profiles? Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly?

We should have all of what we seek, but fear that fewer people who enjoy NSA sex are being forced from the scene. What are your thoughts?

My thoughts are that if you fitted her bill you wouldn't be bleating."

Oh granny, you jump to assumptions. Bleating Haha. Like I said I have been here for years and not been deemed a bleater. I have seen people tear strips off of young men who approach older women, or because they didn't read a lengthy profile. why not relax and get to know people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Someone to click with. What does that mean on a swinging site. Sexually I understand but my educational and vocational achievements do not allow me to use my body to satisfy a lady."

I like to be able to meet for a drink, and have an intelligent conversation and a laugh. I like to go into the chatroom and do likewise. Sex for me is a meeting of minds as well as bodies. And I can quickly gauge whether someone is on the same wavelength sexually, too. I like the company of men, and want to meet women who feel similarly about women. Men who are just looking to get their end away with anyone who'll have them are not welcome.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking at this from a womans _iew point they have every reason to be as demanding as they wish, because they know they will come up trumps.

There are a lot of good looking, toned guys on here, all bursting to do the deed with whoever says "come on then big boy, come and get it"

If some of us guys were just as "selective" as some of the ladies, the balance of power would soon find equalibrium.

For the ladies here, it's just like fishing in a barrel full of hungry fish. They know they are going to "pull one out" just as they know the moon will come out tonight and the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

It is so easy to counteract this "offensive" .... we just need to be just as, or more so as selective as they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lets take the power back guys!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fight the power!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looking at this from a womans _iew point they have every reason to be as demanding as they wish, because they know they will come up trumps.

There are a lot of good looking, toned guys on here, all bursting to do the deed with whoever says "come on then big boy, come and get it"

If some of us guys were just as "selective" as

some of the ladies, the balance of power would soon find equalibrium.

For the ladies here, it's just like fishing in a barrel full of hungry fish. They know they are going to "pull one out" just as they know the moon will come out tonight and the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

It is so easy to counteract this "offensive" .... we just need to be just as, or more so as selective as they are.

"

Well said, there are blokes on here who will fuck anything, so in reality the women dint hold the power, they just think they do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the women hold the power over the so-called men onhere. not the alpha`s

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Looking at this from a womans _iew point they have every reason to be as demanding as they wish, because they know they will come up trumps.

There are a lot of good looking, toned guys on here, all bursting to do the deed with whoever says "come on then big boy, come and get it"

If some of us guys were just as "selective" as some of the ladies, the balance of power would soon find equalibrium.

For the ladies here, it's just like fishing in a barrel full of hungry fish. They know they are going to "pull one out" just as they know the moon will come out tonight and the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

It is so easy to counteract this "offensive" .... we just need to be just as, or more so as selective as they are.

"

Well said sir. Good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I agree with you...some woman come across as very demanding.

As other posters have highlighted its simply the laws of supply and demand I'm afraid.

The thing to do I guess is just ignore the demanding divas...dont mail them.

Maybe they are on here to exorsise their self esteem demons and get their egos lovingly stroked...rather than to play...who knows..????

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Looking at this from a womans _iew point they have every reason to be as demanding as they wish, because they know they will come up trumps.

There are a lot of good looking, toned guys on here, all bursting to do the deed with whoever says "come on then big boy, come and get it"

If some of us guys were just as "selective" as

some of the ladies, the balance of power would soon find equalibrium.

For the ladies here, it's just like fishing in a barrel full of hungry fish. They know they are going to "pull one out" just as they know the moon will come out tonight and the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

It is so easy to counteract this "offensive" .... we just need to be just as, or more so as selective as they are.

Well said, there are blokes on here who will fuck anything, so in reality the women dint hold the power, they just think they do "

Yes we do because the men on here didn't come to exercise control..... and we outnumber the weak little things.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

oops ...... not in number...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looking at this from a womans _iew point they have every reason to be as demanding as they wish, because they know they will come up trumps.

There are a lot of good looking, toned guys on here, all bursting to do the deed with whoever says "come on then big boy, come and get it"

If some of us guys were just as "selective" as

some of the ladies, the balance of power would soon find equalibrium.

For the ladies here, it's just like fishing in a barrel full of hungry fish. They know they are going to "pull one out" just as they know the moon will come out tonight and the sun will rise tomorrow morning.

It is so easy to counteract this "offensive" .... we just need to be just as, or more so as selective as they are.

Well said, there are blokes on here who will fuck anything, so in reality the women dint hold the

power, they just think they do

Yes we do because the men on here didn't come to exercise control..... and we outnumber the weak little things."

Lol, you only have power of weak and desperate men

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Yes I agree with you...some woman come across as very demanding.

As other posters have highlighted its simply the laws of supply and demand I'm afraid.

The thing to do I guess is just ignore the demanding divas...dont mail them.

Maybe they are on here to exorsise their self esteem demons and get their egos lovingly stroked...rather than to play...who knows..????"

You could have hit the nail on the head!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

im after quality over quantity personally. im not gonna begrudge anyone else onhere tho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Upto yet all this thread has proved is that most men have the standards of an alley cat and will shag a barbers floor.

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By *ove bi guysWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

I love single guys (well bi guys) so not bashing anyone but I would be interested to know if the OP / other guys on here would prefer women to have a generic profile, so they don't know what the woman wants in detail and then have most of there emails deleted ?

I can see for the guys how it looks very picky but if a woman knows what she wants is it not better to say it than have everyones times wasted with pointless emails from guys she is not interested in ?

I like to think my profile out lines what I am looking for with the hope I dont waste anyones time and they only email me if they fit my profile and I fit what they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some womens profiles look scary lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx "

maybe a guy with good spelling would be good for you

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx "

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love single guys (well bi guys) so not bashing anyone but I would be interested to know if the OP / other guys on here would prefer women to have a generic profile, so they don't know what the woman wants in detail and then have most of there emails deleted ?

I can see for the guys how it looks very picky but if a woman knows what she wants is it not better to say it than have everyones times wasted with pointless emails from guys she is not interested in ?

I like to think my profile out lines what I am looking for with the hope I dont waste anyones time and they only email me if they fit my profile and I fit what they want."

Women think and plan with their brains, and it's evident from the way most of them construct their profiles, they are usually quite specific in what they are looking for, and I, for one, will not criticise that one little bit.

Most guys aren't so fussy, and you've only got to see the number of profiles that say age, size, looks etc are unimportant, to verify my point.

lol, it's not only sex orientated things that blokes aren't really fussed about though is it?

Ladies, how many of you would trust your guy to go and paint and wallpaper for your house?

You want paint? I'll get paint, any fucking paint, coz paint is paint.

I want a fuck, any type of fuck coz cunt is cunt

Fucking easy to see aint it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well Ive got to a point in my swinging 'career', that I dont sit and listen to people thinking they are above me for a meet, having met so many lovely people of all types, the next meet is really just a meet no more or less than my previous meets( although I'd class my more regular meets as a bit more special of course!).And this "u'll fuck anything" statement really shouyld be tossed in the bin, whoever I decide to meet shouldnt really be of anyones concern, however if 'anything' means some smelly dirty person, well thats different.

Now I wouldnt say women have the power, they just have my interest in wanting to enjoy my time with them, but I'm not gonna pander to anyone in particular as that just defeats my purposes of being a wee sweet manslag!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx

maybe a guy with good spelling would be good for you "
no my spellings up and down just like me , lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes I agree with you...some woman come across as very demanding.

As other posters have highlighted its simply the laws of supply and demand I'm afraid.

The thing to do I guess is just ignore the demanding divas...dont mail them.

Maybe they are on here to exorsise their self esteem demons and get their egos lovingly stroked...rather than to play...who knows..????"

Totally agree, the thing that makes me cringe is the lists, don't do this , dont do that, the guys they meet must be supreme beings

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Some womens profiles look scary lol "

And sometimes off putting. I can not believe that people go through life being so harsh at times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx

maybe a guy with good spelling would be good for you no my spellings up and down just like me , lol "

ive decided Game that i dunno if i could put up with ur bad spelling, especially if im shagging ya while ur writing messages heheheh xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx

maybe a guy with good spelling would be good for you no my spellings up and down just like me , lol

ive decided Game that i dunno if i could put up with ur bad spelling, especially if im shagging ya while ur writing messages heheheh xxx"
well you can spank me for every word i get wrong ok , lol xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some womens profiles look scary lol

And sometimes off putting. I can not believe that people go through life being so harsh at times. "

I think its probably their insecurities , most of the demanding and 'angry' profiles come from deeply insecure people who try and exercise power on here which they lack in the 'real' world .

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is sex better if the guy is able to spell correctly? no diffrence if he can or cant just as good or as bad if not good at sex in first place xx

maybe a guy with good spelling would be good for you no my spellings up and down just like me , lol

ive decided Game that i dunno if i could put up with ur bad spelling, especially if im shagging ya while ur writing messages heheheh xxx well you can spank me for every word i get wrong ok , lol xxxx "

hehheheeh Game u mispelled spank, I know u meant spunk me xxxxxx ive only so much spunk to spare lol...of course i can maybe not wank or shag for a week n build up some paddyjuice for ya xxxx

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Yes I agree with you...some woman come across as very demanding.

As other posters have highlighted its simply the laws of supply and demand I'm afraid.

The thing to do I guess is just ignore the demanding divas...dont mail them.

Maybe they are on here to exorsise their self esteem demons and get their egos lovingly stroked...rather than to play...who knows..????

Totally agree, the thing that makes me cringe is the lists, don't do this , dont do that, the guys they meet must be supreme beings "

The lists that begin with read my profile, then have a million points to consider even before hitting the message button. The profile that reads about getting to know someone before meeting. If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


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If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know"

Perhaps whether or not you are vaguely interested in meeting the person?

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"

If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know

Perhaps whether or not you are vaguely interested in meeting the person?"

So why do they not get to know the person in meeting or speaking with them? We are supposed to be sociable people

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

I love demanding profiles

Tells me who to avoid

There are a few men that have them too,obviously not as many as the women and couples though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ok last thing i read is a mans profile here ........ I like a face pic and a nice letter from them and if i like I will chat and start getting to know them and look and read profile x spelling and things do not come into it . I like all size men do like young men but have been with older too so i like to keep a very open mind about all this ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jack youve got the right idea...."wanna shag?

And for the ones who say profiles are a list of dont do that do this, then think why are they so? Answer For the sake of all those men who have difficulty reading and understanding.

This isnt a pick up in the local club or pub, this is a bit of fantasy for me so if i can ask for what turns me on and I get it then woopee happy me. Xx

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over a year ago

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

wow....

so women have the power.. they always have in swinging and they always will... and just because we are on a swinging site, why should that standard drop.... so if they want a certain type then power to then...

if you happen to be that type you also have the option to play with them because you ticked all the boxes.. or not to play with them because they see you as some sort of object.......

so if for some it is purely the physical and they want a type... if you don't agree with it... move on... its that simple.... if you see people and they want to get to know people better then good for them....

there are people out there for everyone... concentrate on those who are for you rather than whinge and moan (and this is what essentially this is whichever way you want to "flower" this up) about those who don't......

swinging is what people make it... whether it is NSA or getting to know people... there is no right or wrong way!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jack youve got the right idea...."wanna shag?

And for the ones who say profiles are a list of dont do that do this, then think why are they so? Answer For the sake of all those men who have difficulty reading and understanding.

This isnt a pick up in the local club or pub, this is a bit of fantasy for me so if i can ask for what turns me on and I get it then woopee happy me. Xx

Fair enough, but does having a list stop unsuitable guys emailing people? I doubt it. However it may stop suitable people from sending a message as the profiles give off a very negative vibe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jack youve got the right idea...."wanna shag? "

yes please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

course they have the power, theres loads more men on here, so they can be fussy, so i can see why they put up all there standards, age , heaight etc, cause it will save you time, if she puts, "i like short bloke's with little willys" then I know not to message her, ha ha, however I do think some women act like there ding blokes a favour on here, and some women fall for the nice guy act to easily on here as well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some womens profiles look scary lol

And sometimes off putting. I can not believe that people go through life being so harsh at times.

I think its probably their insecurities , most of the demanding and 'angry' profiles come from deeply insecure people who try and exercise power on here which they lack in the 'real' world ."

Women can be petulant.. demanding and occasionally rude on their profiles...and some men will still mail them...and then be all outraged by the inevitable regection..I have to agree that maybe it does provide a "power and control" element that may be lacking otherwise...its food for thought ???

Dont mail the divas...its simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its not about power its about getting on and clicking with people ... If people have long lists what thay like and do not like best to give a wide bith......... as i would feel unhappy meeting people like that no matter what thay look like .

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know

Perhaps whether or not you are vaguely interested in meeting the person?

So why do they not get to know the person in meeting or speaking with them? We are supposed to be sociable people"

Youll find I am a very sociable person if you ask many of the 100s of people Ive met at Fab socials and parties.

But do you really think that you should meet everyone who sends a crap message, doesnt have any information on their profile, wont send pictures so you dont know what they look like - to have a chat and see whether or not you might like them?

Im guessing that you wouldnt suggest this and therefore there needs to be some sort of 'vetting' or selection process. If someone has a vetting process that you find diva-like, demanding or scary then thats great....you know you wouldnt want to meet them anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the end of the day yes women do have the power....and whats so wrong with having standards ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Genuineguy.

An example. I have set age limits and Refuse to meet with attached guys for good reason, through mail recieved in the past from guys barely out of their teens and married ones mailing me I have had to reinforce those choices again on my write up on my profile. Blame those who have gone before for the list of do and dont do on my profile. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the end of the day yes women do have the power....and whats so wrong with having standards ?"

Nothing wring with standards, but they often look like 'demands' , and I disagree they have all the power, men will often just manipulate their profiles and messages to suit demands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

leave the weak to be devoured. let their equals gorge themselves.

my eye spies a bigger prize

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Genuineguy.

An example. I have set age limits and Refuse to meet with attached guys for good reason, through mail recieved in the past from guys barely out of their teens and married ones mailing me I have had to reinforce those choices again on my write up on my profile. Blame those who have gone before for the list of do and dont do on my profile. X"

I wasn't referring directly to your profile, and if that's what my post suggested I apologies , I was merely stating that lists don't deter unsuitable emails

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"At the end of the day yes women do have the power....and whats so wrong with having standards ?

Nothing wring with standards, but they often look like 'demands' , and I disagree they have all the power, men will often just manipulate their profiles and messages to suit demands "

good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

then you must be very careful who you choose to be intimate with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"leave the weak to be devoured. let their equals gorge themselves.

my eye spies a bigger prize "
poor thing , lol xx

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"wow....

so women have the power.. they always have in swinging and they always will... and just because we are on a swinging site, why should that standard drop.... so if they want a certain type then power to then...

if you happen to be that type you also have the option to play with them because you ticked all the boxes.. or not to play with them because they see you as some sort of object.......

so if for some it is purely the physical and they want a type... if you don't agree with it... move on... its that simple.... if you see people and they want to get to know people better then good for them....

there are people out there for everyone... concentrate on those who are for you rather than whinge and moan (and this is what essentially this is whichever way you want to "flower" this up) about those who don't......

swinging is what people make it... whether it is NSA or getting to know people... there is no right or wrong way!"

Fabio you are often the voice of reason. Yet over the years we seem to have a difference in opinion on a few things. If speaking my mind, standing by what I say is deemed moaning by you, then I am cool with that. I do not massage egos or say what people want to hear. I feel that most of your responses are so insincere it is cringe worthy. You obviously are not at all being honest as a women could say or do anything and you find a way of justifying it as a woman's prerogative. You must enjoy the company of those that are unreasonably dismissive, and we should get over it!

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"course they have the power, theres loads more men on here, so they can be fussy, so i can see why they put up all there standards, age , heaight etc, cause it will save you time, if she puts, "i like short bloke's with little willys" then I know not to message her, ha ha, however I do think some women act like there ding blokes a favour on here, and some women fall for the nice guy act to easily on here as well."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail.

"

This profile you speak of is not power - its just double standards.

Those who ask for pictures yet have non themselves, we consider to be time wasters/fakes etc.

They usually only have male verifications which is rather suspect (its easy to fake verifications - if you know how). Of course they dont have fem or cpl vari's because they've not met anyone

They usually have so many friends, its like their on facebook (wonder how many they actually message let alone have met).

To get around people with no pics, or only male verifications, we always ask for fem-fem phone call before swapping face pics.. usually no reply comes after this or no phone call..

Plenty of single girls in bars and clubs.. dont need to find them in swinger sites.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"leave the weak to be devoured. let their equals gorge themselves.

my eye spies a bigger prize "

You sound like a character from a gothic novel

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"

If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know

Perhaps whether or not you are vaguely interested in meeting the person?

So why do they not get to know the person in meeting or speaking with them? We are supposed to be sociable people

Youll find I am a very sociable person if you ask many of the 100s of people Ive met at Fab socials and parties.

But do you really think that you should meet everyone who sends a crap message, doesnt have any information on their profile, wont send pictures so you dont know what they look like - to have a chat and see whether or not you might like them?

Im guessing that you wouldnt suggest this and therefore there needs to be some sort of 'vetting' or selection process. If someone has a vetting process that you find diva-like, demanding or scary then thats great....you know you wouldnt want to meet them anyway."

You too right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been accused of being demanding, and i do have a list similar to the one you've described. For me, it's about getting the right experiences with the right people. I'm not looking for a shag every night of the week, and I'm prepared to wait a long time to get someone I click with, in every way.

It may not look like I have a face pic as it's not in

my gallery. I do have one in private, but I only send it when I have received a message and pic from someone I'm interested in.

I'm also very particular about spelling and messages in general, as I'm highly aroused by intelligent men.

People can be as specific as they want, and

women doubly so as we have a wider choice of candidates. Personally, I don't go for 'nsa' as I like to be freinds with my sexual partners. And bear in mind that this is a swinging site, not an nsa site.

Good spelling is not a good indicator of good intelligence, most people have spell checkers "

And there are those like me that are very good at spelling but not that intelligent, and I am not being disrespectful to myself either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

power but maybe some are just Selfish thinking of there own needs not others .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what are we all here for?

im here to find women with certain physical attributes for physical encounters.

aslong as you arent a total bitch were gonna get along. all you have to be is friendly which isnt a tough personality trait.

im not gonna write up a ahopping sized list of things which my perfect partner/soulmate would possess because im not onhere looking for my life mate

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail.

This profile you speak of is not power - its just double standards.

Those who ask for pictures yet have non themselves, we consider to be time wasters/fakes etc.

They usually only have male verifications which is rather suspect (its easy to fake verifications - if you know how). Of course they dont have fem or cpl vari's because they've not met anyone

They usually have so many friends, its like their on facebook (wonder how many they actually message let alone have met).

To get around people with no pics, or only male verifications, we always ask for fem-fem phone call before swapping face pics.. usually no reply comes after this or no phone call..

Plenty of single girls in bars and clubs.. dont need to find them in swinger sites."

Not sure why a female having only male verifications makes them dodgy....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Genuineguy.

An example. I have set age limits and Refuse to meet with attached guys for good reason, through mail recieved in the past from guys barely out of their teens and married ones mailing me I have had to reinforce those choices again on my write up on my profile. Blame those who have gone before for the list of do and dont do on my profile. X"

Same here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a swinging site for gods sake,and _abio was absoulutely right in what he said,we are not here for life,just a good time..nothing more nothing less

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thankyou simon i applaud you xx

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"what are we all here for?

im here to find women with certain physical attributes for physical encounters.

im not gonna write up a ahopping sized list of things which my perfect partner/soulmate would possess because im not onhere looking for my life mate"

But some people are looking for their ideal playmate....why shouldnt they be clear about what that is?

It sounds like Im here defending diva-like profiles and Im not. They get on my tits as well and thats why I ignore them.

But I dont mind people being clear about what they want, that helps me to decide whether or not Im interested...if they write it in a way that sounds arrogant and stroppy then I know Im not interested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"wow....

so women have the power.. they always have in swinging and they always will... and just because we are on a swinging site, why should that standard drop.... so if they want a certain type then power to then...

if you happen to be that type you also have the option to play with them because you ticked all the boxes.. or not to play with them because they see you as some sort of object.......

so if for some it is purely the physical and they want a type... if you don't agree with it... move on... its that simple.... if you see people and they want to get to know people better then good for them....

there are people out there for everyone... concentrate on those who are for you rather than whinge and moan (and this is what essentially this is whichever way you want to "flower" this up) about those who don't......

swinging is what people make it... whether it is NSA or getting to know people... there is no right or wrong way!

Fabio you are often the voice of reason. Yet over the years we seem to have a difference in opinion on a few things. If speaking my mind, standing by what I say is deemed moaning by you, then I am cool with that. I do not massage egos or say what people want to hear. I feel that most of your responses are so insincere it is cringe worthy. You obviously are not at all being honest as a women could say or do anything and you find a way of justifying it as a woman's prerogative. You must enjoy the company of those that are unreasonably dismissive, and we should get over it!"

+1

alot of blokes just agree with the girls, and change there _iews, like some sort of sexual chamleleon

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By *icheekyMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Having a lot of preferences is supposed to narrow down the number of responces a woman gets to save the time and hassle of sorting through the hundreds of messages women get every day from people who are way out of their age range/distance range/body type preference etc.

Sadly, that isn't always the case as I know a lot of women on this site (and others) that continue to get messages from people either way too old or young, or too far away etc.

There seems to be a tendency on here for men (and it is men sadly) to chance their arm with a one liner or copy-and-paste message to any female on here regardless of whether they fit the bill.

I know this because I get the one liners/Ctrl + V messages from guys on here asking me if I would like to come round to their place, have my cock sucked and leave. Nowhere on my profile does it hint at that being something I might enjoy (at least I hope there isn't) yet I still get them.

It's annoying to me and I only get one every few days or so. To get one every 5 minutes would drive me crazy.

Bottom line - women have preferences simply because they know what they like and what they want. Un my experience (limited admittedly) women don't drop their knickers just because a man walks past. I'm sure a lot of men think this is a shame but c'est la vie. Swinging isn't about opening your legs, it's about having fun (not just a euphemism for sex) with like-minded people who catch your eye. Not everyone catches your eye so profiles are there to tell people what might do the trick.

M x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its a swinging site for gods sake,and _abio was absoulutely right in what he said,we are not here for life,just a good time..nothing more nothing less"

He sounded condascending , and as stated previous often manipulates his responded to suit women or couples, however he does talk a great deal if sense at times

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"power but maybe some are just Selfish thinking of there own needs not others ."

EVERYONE is on here because of their own needs.

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly their own needs !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

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By *icheekyMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Oh, and with regards to spelling... with the exception of genuine dyslexics etc, anyone who doesn't put in the tiny amount of effort needed to type properly without using text-speak is unlikely to put the effort into making a meet worthwhile for her.

Same goes for women. If a woman messaged me with text speak I'd be more inclined to send her a polite no-thank-you. It's not an absolute deal breaker if she has put effort into her profile (and has a nice rack :P I am a red-blooded male after all) but it would definitely be the electronic equivalent of a brisk cold shower and early morning jog.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

Women have the power in swinging...

Get over it.

Because the alternative doesnt bare thinking about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!"

yeah i totally agree, my problem is the bloke's, who will just say anything, and agree with everywomen, and diagree with and man being honest, just to impress, it's so frustrating to watch, cause you just now there chatting shit, cause a man's natural instinct would not allow the shit they come out with 2 be true. women should have preferences all day long. but blokes should have there _iews, and there standing on things, and stick to them, rather then changing who they are just to get a shag. and that happens every day on here.

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over a year ago

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!"

And have you met Mr 'Fantasy'?? And if you have met him how can you be sure he us everything he says he Is. And without sounding harsh if he does exist what makes you think he would be interested in you? This is what makes me cringe about these 'demands' , everyone is entitled to them but s bit if realism is needed at times

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"what are we all here for?

im here to find women with certain physical attributes for physical encounters.

aslong as you arent a total bitch were gonna get along. all you have to be is friendly which isnt a tough personality trait.

im not gonna write up a ahopping sized list of things which my perfect partner/soulmate would possess because im not onhere looking for my life mate"

Good point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care

who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x"

How can you be sure that the people you have met resly do meet your requirements, and are not just lying to get a meet?

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"power but maybe some are just Selfish thinking of there own needs not others .

EVERYONE is on here because of their own needs.

Mistress x"

Very good point. Im here for my needs and Im not here to fulfil someone elses needs. Sorry if that makes me selfish.

Im here for fun and sexual gratification. If part of that is doing something that someone else also finds very pleasurable and wants to do with me, then great.

But Im not here to do charity work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i expect 90% of the women onhere drop most of the standards they set in their profiles for most of their meets. they are just tryin to get as good as they can get(understandably) but reality is very different

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said,totally agree weather it makes me selfish or not.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall


"The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care

who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x

How can you be sure that the people you have met resly do meet your requirements, and are not just lying to get a meet?"

We meet them for a social meet first and make our minds up of course. Never had a bad meet in the bedroom so it works for us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care

who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x

How can you be sure that the people you have met resly do meet your requirements, and are not just lying to get a meet?"

lol would that matter after having 'met' them lolol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh, and with regards to spelling... with the exception of genuine dyslexics etc, anyone who doesn't put in the tiny amount of effort needed to type properly without using text-speak is unlikely to put the effort into making a meet worthwhile for her.

Same goes for women. If a woman messaged me with text speak I'd be more inclined to send her a polite no-thank-you. It's not an absolute deal breaker if she has put effort into her profile (and has a nice rack :P I am a red-blooded male after all) but it would definitely be the electronic equivalent of a brisk cold shower and early morning jog."

spelling ability should be totally irrelevent, some people will be dyslexic, and not even know it, some people are bad with names, some people crnt remember phone numbers, and some people are shit at spelling, including me. Txt speak is completely justified on an internet forum, absolutely, this is the kind of place text speak was desighned for, if somebody has a problem with spelling, and they dnt wanna meet with som1 beacause of that, then I wouldnt wanna meet with anybody who thought like that anyway, cause chances are they would be a boring ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care

who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x

How can you be sure that the people you have met resly do meet your requirements, and are

not just lying to get a meet?

lol would that matter after having 'met' them lolol"

Depends who you mean? I am sure the guys wouldn't care less

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i expect 90% of the women onhere drop most of the standards they set in their profiles for most of their meets. they are just tryin to get as good as they can get(understandably) but reality is very different"

Like my knickers, my standards remain impossibly high till the right meet comes along.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I have now chaged my profile as a result of this...

Hope is says, some one not anyone

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

yeah i totally agree, my problem is the bloke's, who will just say anything, and agree with everywomen, and diagree with and man being honest, just to impress, it's so frustrating to watch, cause you just now there chatting shit, cause a man's natural instinct would not allow the shit they come out with 2 be true. women should have preferences all day long. but blokes should have there _iews, and there standing on things, and stick to them, rather then changing who they are just to get a shag. and that happens every day on here."

I wonder if women are naive enough to fall for it though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I have to find out why women on here have become so demanding. I just read a profile of a lady seeking discretion. As I read on, I noticed the other requests including height, age, body and facilities hair, weight, home owners the list goes on. Also insisting on _iewing pictures first. Unfortunately this profile had no pictures and very little detail.

This profile you speak of is not power - its just double standards.

Those who ask for pictures yet have non themselves, we consider to be time wasters/fakes etc.

They usually only have male verifications which is rather suspect (its easy to fake verifications - if you know how). Of course they dont have fem or cpl vari's because they've not met anyone

They usually have so many friends, its like their on facebook (wonder how many they actually message let alone have met).

To get around people with no pics, or only male verifications, we always ask for fem-fem phone call before swapping face pics.. usually no reply comes after this or no phone call..

Plenty of single girls in bars and clubs.. dont need to find them in swinger sites.

Not sure why a female having only male verifications makes them dodgy.... "

because they are not always real profiles - as in they are saddo guys staging a female profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hi i totally agree with what u have said, swinging is NOT about a shag with anyone who happens to want one, its about what u like and want and are comfortable with. Its ok to like what u like and to not compromise, its my body and my sex life x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i expect 90% of the women onhere drop most of the standards they set in their profiles for most of their meets. they are just tryin to get as good as they can get(understandably) but reality is very different

Like my knickers, my standards remain impossibly high till the right meet comes along. "

lol, can't be very high if you want to shag an old fucker like me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i expect 90% of the women onhere drop most of the standards they set in their profiles for most of their meets. they are just tryin to get as good as they can get(understandably) but reality is very different

Like my knickers, my standards remain impossibly high till the right meet comes along.

lol, can't be very high if you want to shag an old fucker like me "

You're not old, you are experienced.

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

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"The only guys who are not happy about our requirements are those who dont qualify. We dont really want to meet them so doesnt matter. As Sassy says.... this is fantasy time especially for couples. In fact have NO trouble meeting guys, attractive ones too - they are everywhere and more than happy to oblige but we want to meet guys who know the score and are on here to fulfil fantasies which correspond with ours. Not looking for a quick shag. Those who dont care

who they meet have no respect for themselves or others IN MY OPINION.

Mistress x

How can you be sure that the people you have met resly do meet your requirements, and are not just lying to get a meet?

lol would that matter after having 'met' them lolol"

We meet a guy for a drink. If we meet again for play thats great, if we arent both happy to meet him for fun we dont.

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"Genuineguy.

An example. I have set age limits and Refuse to meet with attached guys for good reason, through mail recieved in the past from guys barely out of their teens and married ones mailing me I have had to reinforce those choices again on my write up on my profile. Blame those who have gone before for the list of do and dont do on my profile. X

I wasn't referring directly to your profile, and if that's what my post suggested I apologies , I was merely stating that lists don't deter unsuitable emails "

damned if we do and damned if we dont!! i had a guy before throwing toys out his pram when i told him i didnt do hotels meets,said i should have that noted then to save wasting his time (he sent just one message before lol ) ! but now if i dont do hotel mets im demanding?? lol !! well if knowing my own mind ,what i like and dont like and making clear the guys that wont interest me is demanding then hell im proud to be ! a married guys isnt for me ,a guy under 30 doesnt do it for me ,if they cant accomm then its not going to work so why not state that and save them and me the grief of sending a messag that isnt going to leave the starting blocks ! i make no apologies for having my own preferences . biggest perference for me is a guys who i can "click " with mentally .yes this is a sex site but sorry if a guy doesnt interest me mentally then he wont sexually ! pretty pecs and a pert bum isnt high on the list of priorities for me ! after all the brain is one of the most over looked erogious zones . i have my profile the way i want it set out ,not for the benifit of others .if people dont like it they can just pass it by and i wont be offended in the slightest ! ive met some love friends through it so its working for me ,why would i want anything different ??lol !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hi i totally agree with what u have said, swinging is NOT about a shag with anyone who happens to want one, its about what u like and want and are comfortable with. Its ok to like what u like and to not compromise, its my body and my sex life x"

You have just contradicted yourself, for some swinging 'Is' about a quick fuck with anyone and it's what they like and what they are comfortable with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been accused of being demanding, and i do have a list similar to the one you've described. For me, it's about getting the right experiences with the right people. I'm not looking for a shag every night of the week, and I'm prepared to wait a long time to get someone I click with, in every way.

It may not look like I have a face pic as it's not in my gallery. I do have one in private, but I only send it when I have received a message and pic from someone I'm interested in.

I'm also very particular about spelling and messages in general, as I'm highly aroused by intelligent men.

People can be as specific as they want, and women doubly so as we have a wider choice of candidates. Personally, I don't go for 'nsa' as I like to be freinds with my sexual partners. And bear in mind that this is a swinging site, not an nsa site."

Just imagining you starting to sense you like someone who are all these things via message exchanges and, oops he has a typo in one message, would that be it? History? Suddenly not inteligent enough? Serioosly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree Secret couple.

I always ask for a social meet first, the guy/female/couple may match in theory but not always in reality.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

Not sure why a female having only male verifications makes them dodgy....

because they are not always real profiles - as in they are saddo guys staging a female profile."

When I only played with single guys all my verifications were from single guys. Because they were the only people I met with.

Not sure why this would make me a saddo guy with a fake profile.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

yeah i totally agree, my problem is the bloke's, who will just say anything, and agree with everywomen, and diagree with and man being honest, just to impress, it's so frustrating to watch, cause you just now there chatting shit, cause a man's natural instinct would not allow the shit they come out with 2 be true. women should have preferences all day long. but blokes should have there _iews, and there standing on things, and stick to them, rather then changing who they are just to get a shag. and that happens every day on here.

I wonder if women are naive enough to fall for it though?"

Women deal nwith it every day, its hardly news to them is it

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"

If you have demanded so many things what else is there to know

Perhaps whether or not you are vaguely interested in meeting the person?

So why do they not get to know the person in meeting or speaking with them? We are supposed to be sociable people"

For us its cos we rarely do social meets, if we have the house to ourselves we want to play,not chat.So our profile may seem picky, but it cuts a lot of time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging appears to be as simple or as complex as the parties involved want it to be....some men lie...some women lie...both to others and often, I guess to themselves...

power..control...ego...self-esteem...motivations..and expectations...Maybe

its all part of the mix in swinging..

and like others have said... peeps are only on here to meet their own needs, whatever they may be.....profoundly true.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Fabio you are often the voice of reason. Yet over the years we seem to have a difference in opinion on a few things. If speaking my mind, standing by what I say is deemed moaning by you, then I am cool with that. I do not massage egos or say what people want to hear. I feel that most of your responses are so insincere it is cringe worthy. You obviously are not at all being honest as a women could say or do anything and you find a way of justifying it as a woman's prerogative. You must enjoy the company of those that are unreasonably dismissive, and we should get over it!"

wow..... you show me where i have changed my opinions over the years of being here.. and i will absolutely apologise...

you stand by what you said.. fine... I absolutely stand by what I say as well...

you don't massage egos.. cool... neither do i... I don't flip flop, my opinions don't change depending on which way the wind blows..

Do I think what you said was a whinge... absolutely!! because people can demand what they want... after remember it is there body, they don't have to play with anyone they don't feel attracted to... and if that means it is a list... then you have two options.... you can reply... or you can give it a wide berth...

yes women can demand what they want... such is life... what would you exactly like people to do about it??? so next time i see someone harp on about wanting a black guy... can you please go on about demands and shooting them down...

I call it like i see it.... do i think it was a whinge ..you betcha!! demands can be seen as preferences ect ect ect... and if someone questioned yours how would you feel????

we all have choices in life... you have the choice to run in the other direction if something doesn't agree with you.... your choice!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am very new to this so some of the points raised I as yet have no experience of. However, one thing i have noticed is males and especially females complaining about being rude; yet when you talk to them or meet them in actual fact they are extremely rude themselves. In that case it is no wonder why people are rude to them.

Oh and just as a correction to some previously made comments, the ability to spell is an incredibly poor indicator of intelligence. I have loosely worked in this area for 15 years and if you’re using this as a benchmark I am afraid you will be sorely disappointed.

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

Wow...

Can i just say having met fabs many times the idea he is insincere, or faking it in any way is so unbelievable to be laughable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Not sure why a female having only male verifications makes them dodgy....

because they are not always real profiles - as in they are saddo guys staging a female profile.

When I only played with single guys all my verifications were from single guys. Because they were the only people I met with.

Not sure why this would make me a saddo guy with a fake profile. "

It doesn;t - you just dont seem to get what is being written (a generalisation), and taking it personally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow...

Can i just say having met fabs many times the idea he is insincere, or faking it in any way is so unbelievable to be laughable "

Wow

It's called personal choice and perception , I am entitled to mine your entitle to yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Genuineguy.

An example. I have set age limits and Refuse to meet with attached guys for good reason, through mail recieved in the past from guys barely out of their teens and married ones mailing me I have had to reinforce those choices again on my write up on my profile. Blame those who have gone before for the list of do and dont do on my profile. X"

Thats a very good point. I have added some things on to my profile, due to messages received previously. I have not added many, as I didn't want a 'wall' of words, but how many read a profile anyway? I put 'can accom' in my first line, yet it is often the first thing I'm asked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

yeah i totally agree, my problem is the bloke's, who will just say anything, and agree with everywomen, and diagree with and man being honest, just to impress, it's so frustrating to watch, cause you just now there chatting shit, cause a man's natural instinct would not allow the shit they come out with 2 be true. women should have preferences all day long. but blokes should have there _iews, and there standing on things, and stick to them, rather then changing who they are just to get a shag. and that happens every day on here."

I've lost count of the posts I've made about the sycophants on these forums. It is truly cringe worthy watching the public massaging of egos sometimes on here. It's across the board: couples will post about not getting meets and it starts etc.

There are some profiles I read I'm surprised have verifications, BUT it works for them and they're meeting the people THEY want.

I really do struggle to understand why people can't allow people to decide for themselves how they choose their playmates.

We ALL have opinions. I've seen profiles from couples demanding men book hotel rooms for a couple of hours then leave the couple in the room! Come on now, how many men would agree to that, not many but enough obviously for them.

Again, not for me but it's their choice and it works for them what business is it of mine, and why start threads about peoples choices that exclude me?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow...

Can i just say having met fabs many times the idea he is insincere, or faking it in any way is so unbelievable to be laughable "

I would have used 'bland', not insincere.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"

It doesn;t - you just dont seem to get what is being written (a generalisation), and taking it personally. "

Noooo not taking it personally at all. I was using my own circumstances just as an illustration. But I didnt get the point that was being made and thats why I made the comment.

I understand that there are some fake profiles on here, but sorry I dont see why a female having only verifications from meeting men would suggest that it might be a fake profile...

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

yeah i totally agree, my problem is the bloke's, who will just say anything, and agree with everywomen, and diagree with and man being honest, just to impress, it's so frustrating to watch, cause you just now there chatting shit, cause a man's natural instinct would not allow the shit they come out with 2 be true. women should have preferences all day long. but blokes should have there _iews, and there standing on things, and stick to them, rather then changing who they are just to get a shag. and that happens every day on here.

I've lost count of the posts I've made about the sycophants on these forums. It is truly cringe worthy watching the public massaging of egos sometimes on here. It's across the board: couples will post about not getting meets and it starts etc.

There are some profiles I read I'm surprised have verifications, BUT it works for them and they're meeting the people THEY want.

I really do struggle to understand why people can't allow people to decide for themselves how they choose their playmates.

We ALL have opinions. I've seen profiles from couples demanding men book hotel rooms for a couple of hours then leave the couple in the room! Come on now, how many men would agree to that, not many but enough obviously for them.

Again, not for me but it's their choice and it works for them what business is it of mine, and why start threads about peoples choices that exclude me?!!"

Yet you find time to pass opinion in a forum. Do you feel justified having not started the thread? Maybe you should have, it obviously left an impression. And would the forums lose the fun if we all kept these opinions to ourselves?

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And why is that the ladies who are " facely and bodily challenged" are the most demanding.

If you are a super model fair enough !

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"Wow...

Can i just say having met fabs many times the idea he is insincere, or faking it in any way is so unbelievable to be laughable

I would have used 'bland', not insincere."

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"Wow...

Can i just say having met fabs many times the idea he is insincere, or faking it in any way is so unbelievable to be laughable

I would have used 'bland', not insincere.

"

Miaowwww

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Yet you find time to pass opinion in a forum. Do you feel justified having not started the thread? Maybe you should have, it obviously left an impression. And would the forums lose the fun if we all kept these opinions to ourselves?"

not at all... but the one thing you also need to remember is that in any forum, not everyone is going to agree with your _iew...

as i keep on saying... it in the end comes down to CHOICE, and if that is they choose to set out their profile with a list of demands... you also have the CHOICE as to whether to answer back to them or not..... it's not really rocket science...

you do things your way.. they decide to do it another....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Despite being fussy, I do receive an endless supply of mail from handsome, intelligent, young men with loose morals. So no, I don't think I'm being unrealistic in setting out my preferences. Maybe if I didn't get any replies I'd reconsider.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The End

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally, if all I wanted was a quick fuck I'd go to a club, go dogging, or hang around the local pub at closing time for a knee trembler in the alley: but I don't!

For me, this is fantasy. My fantasy man is specific to me and will exclude many men on here. To those it excludes it may seem "too much": get over it and look for those that are looking for you.

If I come across a profile and someone is looking for a threesome with girls that look like the Minogue sisters who ride Harley's I'd smile and think "good luck with that!" but it wouldn't prompt me to start a thread about it as it's their fantasy as I have mine!

And have you met Mr 'Fantasy'?? And if you have met him how can you be sure he us everything he says he Is. And without sounding harsh if he does exist what makes you think he would be interested in you? This is what makes me cringe about these 'demands' , everyone is entitled to them but s bit if realism is needed at times"

My profile is hidden as I have met my partner and he is more than I imagined! The irony is I met him within the first week of swinging four years ago. I'm the only person he's ever met, and it was only when he had a cancer scare I realised how much he meant to me.

I think four years is time enough to ascertain whether someone is right for you. The other men I've met have been great fun and I see some socially as friends. Only yesterday I spent the day with one out on his boat. I left with the Easter egg he'd got for me at Easter but I couldn't get away.

My other half and I have devised ways of me working off the chocolate!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Highly sexed..busty.."Kelly Brookes" lookalike twins...seek males with a pulse..for no holds barred shagfest. We can accom in our pub, and we love to cook, after we have drained you.

Tall, handsome,VWE, funny, Bradpitt/Idris Elba lookalike..seeks female..looks/age/size unimportant..satifaction..conversation..loving cuddles all a sure thing.

Oh if only...xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

can i please say why are people selecting to publicly 'attack' on a personal level here?????

go wank or something n take away ur frustrations whatever the reason ffs lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ruined my fucking ending!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This ones not going away....me thinks lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"ruined my fucking ending! "

er theres a few more pages left lol count the pages, 130 odd now lol...more to come

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Errr can we have less of the personal posts against people please, surely you can discuss without it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Fabio you are often the voice of reason. Yet over the years we seem to have a difference in opinion on a few things. If speaking my mind, standing by what I say is deemed moaning by you, then I am cool with that. I do not massage egos or say what people want to hear. I feel that most of your responses are so insincere it is cringe worthy. You obviously are not at all being honest as a women could say or do anything and you find a way of justifying it as a woman's prerogative. You must enjoy the company of those that are unreasonably dismissive, and we should get over it!

wow..... you show me where i have changed my opinions over the years of being here.. and i will absolutely apologise...

you stand by what you said.. fine... I absolutely stand by what I say as well...

you don't massage egos.. cool... neither do i... I don't flip flop, my opinions don't change depending on which way the wind blows..

Do I think what you said was a whinge... absolutely!! because people can demand what they want... after remember it is there body, they don't have to play with anyone they don't feel attracted to... and if that means it is a list... then you have two options.... you can reply... or you can give it a wide berth...

yes women can demand what they want... such is life... what would you exactly like people to do about it??? so next time i see someone harp on about wanting a black guy... can you please go on about demands and shooting them down...

I call it like i see it.... do i think it was a whinge ..you betcha!! demands can be seen as preferences ect ect ect... and if someone questioned yours how would you feel????

we all have choices in life... you have the choice to run in the other direction if something doesn't agree with you.... your choice!!

"

*Nods in agreement*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"can i please say why are people selecting to publicly 'attack' on a personal level here?????

go wank or something n take away ur frustrations whatever the reason ffs lol"

Oh...my...God!!! I'm agreeing with Raiesa...(drops in dead faint)!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"can i please say why are people selecting to publicly 'attack' on a personal level here?????

go wank or something n take away ur frustrations whatever the reason ffs lol

Oh...my...God!!! I'm agreeing with Raiesa...(drops in dead faint)! "

lol sassy...now if ur unconsciouys for a wee while...mind if i fiddle with ya! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think spelling is very important from a guy. i find just at the moment of climax with then if i ask them to spell a long word then it usually gets them concentrating and keeps them hanging on

as far as a list of demands go, well i just hand them the list when they come into the bedroom with me, stick a pen up their arse and get them to tick off each one as it happens.

really i dont have many demands, apart from having a flat head for me ashtray am quite easy going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"can i please say why are people selecting to publicly 'attack' on a personal level here?????

go wank or something n take away ur frustrations whatever the reason ffs lol

Oh...my...God!!! I'm agreeing with Raiesa...(drops in dead faint)!

lol sassy...now if ur unconsciouys for a wee while...mind if i fiddle with ya! x"

You really are something else!

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven


"i think spelling is very important from a guy. i find just at the moment of climax with then if i ask them to spell a long word then it usually gets them concentrating and keeps them hanging on

as far as a list of demands go, well i just hand them the list when they come into the bedroom with me, stick a pen up their arse and get them to tick off each one as it happens.

really i dont have many demands, apart from having a flat head for me ashtray am quite easy going "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yer and btw the only single guy bashing i do is when am wanking them off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Tsk! Silly me: it's Thursday and some people don't have a meet lined up for the weekend.

Must be a bummer looking in the mirror and seeing God's gift and no takers.

Personally I like people that have profiles that obviously exclude me. Some people are rude in their descriptions and I've bristled at a few: but whining about it because it excludes me?!!

Nah: I'm not needy!

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple
over a year ago

Lisburn

Ok going a little of subject here but when i saw title ..it reminded me of she-ra

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Im still holding out for Samuel L Jackson in his kilt

Could be here a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All posting are very enlightening in many ways about the poster, keep posting folks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I like men who can spell correctly as I like them to be intelligent enough to have a conversation with as well as shag ( apologies to all true dyslexics and people on phones with small keyboards)

I put preferences because just because sex is NSA doesn't mean 'a free for all come and get it' xxx"
excellently put x

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

Its simple....

We cant play with everyone who asks and have no wish to so to increase our chances of a good match we lay down all those things that we like in a guy (hopefully cuts down on mail from those we are not looking for)

The only people who moan about that is guys who dont fit the bill... no loss as we dont want to meet a winger anyway (have never mailed anyone or winged about anyone who we dont fit the criteria of)

Since when did it become a bad thing to be fussy who we have sex with?

Criteria, profiles and pics are simply a starting point for working out a good match. Not law.

People who are being so called 'too fussy' have a criteria or profile that works for them presumably, if not they go without - both their choice.

I think people who do not understand the above are either immature, dont understand swinging or are deluded.

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"Im still holding out for Samuel L Jackson in his kilt

Could be here a while "

The kilt is just too demanding ya fussy bugger.

You should lower your standards and forget about the kilt .

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest


"Ok going a little of subject here but when i saw title ..it reminded me of she-ra "

Ooooer She-Ra and He-Man. What a hot couple. I would

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By (user no longer on site)
Forum Mod
over a year ago


"Im still holding out for Samuel L Jackson in his kilt

Could be here a while

The kilt is just too demanding ya fussy bugger.

You should lower your standards and forget about the kilt ."

I don't want to lower my standards I want to lower myself to my knees

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Floosey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its simple....

We cant play with everyone who asks and have no wish to so to increase our chances of a good match we lay down all those things that we like in a guy (hopefully cuts down on mail from those we are not looking for)

The only people who moan about that is guys who dont fit the bill... no loss as we dont want to meet a winger anyway (have never mailed anyone or winged about anyone who we dont fit the criteria of)

Since when did it become a bad thing to be fussy who we have sex with?

Criteria, profiles and pics are simply a starting point for working out a good match. Not law.

People who are being so called 'too fussy' have a criteria or profile that works for them presumably, if not they go without - both their choice.

I think people who do not understand the above are either immature, dont understand swinging or are deluded.

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Very well said, Secret Couple!

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

no one has any power over anyone on here UNLESS you allow them.

don't enter into any backslapping sycophantic pish and you will maintain your dignity always.....

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By *onny Bones OP   Man
over a year ago

a block away from heaven

Thanks for the opinion of all, and the pm's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"no one has any power over anyone on here UNLESS you allow them.

don't enter into any backslapping sycophantic pish and you will maintain your dignity always....."

Here here, I could nit have put it any better myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What about women who are not up their own arses and are just paving the way for a guy to establish if he's what she's looking for in a full profile? I am sure if the tone sounds like something that you wouldn't fancy approaching, then you don't approach.

If anyone thinks a persons profile is too demanding and they write regardless then perhaps they shouldnt be surprised when they get no response. I think anyone who provides a profile that clearly states personal preference should be respected and if you dont fit the bill (male or female) then thats just the way it swings.

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By *lubPartyPeepsCouple
over a year ago

London

SWINGING FOOD CHAIN - ITS THIS SIMPLE

Top SINGLE BISEXUAL FEMALE

SINGLE FEMALE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL FEMALE

STRAIGHT COUPLE

BISEXUAL COUPLE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL MALE

STRAIGHT MALE

Bottom BISEXUAL MALE (debatable, the last two might be the other way around)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"SWINGING FOOD CHAIN - ITS THIS SIMPLE

Top SINGLE BISEXUAL FEMALE

SINGLE FEMALE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL FEMALE

STRAIGHT COUPLE

BISEXUAL COUPLE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL MALE

STRAIGHT MALE

Bottom BISEXUAL MALE (debatable, the last two might be the other way around)

"

...and into all of these a bi female will fit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ive got tha power! (bops head)

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"SWINGING FOOD CHAIN - ITS THIS SIMPLE

Top SINGLE BISEXUAL FEMALE

SINGLE FEMALE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL FEMALE

STRAIGHT COUPLE

BISEXUAL COUPLE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL MALE

STRAIGHT MALE

Bottom BISEXUAL MALE (debatable, the last two might be the other way around)

"

I ain't a bottom bi male but a bi male nonetheless, BUT I HAVE NEVER ever felt that.

I am an equal, no less, no better than anyone on here....

and I have had a great time

I walk with my head high, my dignity intact and a humility that pleases me.

because I am only answerable to ME

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"SWINGING FOOD CHAIN - ITS THIS SIMPLE

Top SINGLE BISEXUAL FEMALE

SINGLE FEMALE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL FEMALE

STRAIGHT COUPLE

BISEXUAL COUPLE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL MALE

STRAIGHT MALE

Bottom BISEXUAL MALE (debatable, the last two might be the other way around)

I ain't a bottom bi male but a bi male nonetheless, BUT I HAVE NEVER ever felt that.

I am an equal, no less, no better than anyone on here....

and I have had a great time

I walk with my head high, my dignity intact and a humility that pleases me.

because I am only answerable to ME "

Me too - well when my mum dies I will be. She has supreme power!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The End - Part 2 (cue credits)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"SWINGING FOOD CHAIN - ITS THIS SIMPLE

Top SINGLE BISEXUAL FEMALE

SINGLE FEMALE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL FEMALE

STRAIGHT COUPLE

BISEXUAL COUPLE

COUPLE WITH BISEXUAL MALE

STRAIGHT MALE

Bottom BISEXUAL MALE (debatable, the last two might be the other way around)

I ain't a bottom bi male but a bi male nonetheless, BUT I HAVE NEVER ever felt that.

I am an equal, no less, no better than anyone on here....

and I have had a great time

I walk with my head high, my dignity intact and a humility that pleases me.

because I am only answerable to ME "

Here here, in fact cheaters are at the bottom and judging by the number of mails single bi males get vs the number of mails us single bi females get, I think we should swap places

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its not over till i say it is...i have the POWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

....ER

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