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"bit of a ridiculous generalisation..." I'm completely baffled how the OP relates to the title of the thread? | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue." I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. " Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though!" So if your partner, for whatever reason, were to put on a substantial amount of weight, would you dump them? | |||
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"I would like to add. If anyone says they’re not attracted to people based on race and they make it clear it’s because of that specific race, or worse, because they aren’t the same race as those people, that would be disgusting and 100% sickening. If that’s what the OP meant, of course I would agree with that. I hate racism. I hate prejudice. I hate people being assholes about anyone based on anything but that individuals personality. Everyone can be a prick, and that isn’t gender or race specific. So yeah, just adding that "Replace the word "race" in your first paragraph with "skin colour" or "body type" then refer back to your previous post. | |||
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"I would like to add. If anyone says they’re not attracted to people based on race and they make it clear it’s because of that specific race, or worse, because they aren’t the same race as those people, that would be disgusting and 100% sickening. If that’s what the OP meant, of course I would agree with that. I hate racism. I hate prejudice. I hate people being assholes about anyone based on anything but that individuals personality. Everyone can be a prick, and that isn’t gender or race specific. So yeah, just adding that
Replace the word "race" in your first paragraph with "skin colour" or "body type" then refer back to your previous post.
"No, because there’s a difference between traits that completely shape a person’s attractiveness to someone physically and race itself. Race discrimination is nothing to do with attractiveness. I can’t believe you are mixing those two up. Huge mistake. Huge. Racial prejudice isn’t when you don’t fancy darker or lighter skin tones! Jesus, that’s a great underhanded way to push everyone who isn’t physically attracted to certain things right into a corner. Racial discrimination puts aside the attraction side of things and focuses the prejudice on the fact that a person isn’t of a specific race. Please stop mixing the two up. | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! So if your partner, for whatever reason, were to put on a substantial amount of weight, would you dump them? " You’re a troll. But I’ll answer. I wouldn’t fancy them as much no. And why would she? If she went from a size 10 to a size 14, I’d not care. If she went to a die 18 - 20, then yes, I would simply find her less attractive. That’s nature. Sorry, but if anyone here wants to pretend - to make their online image seem better than the reality - that they don’t care about that stuff, that’s fine. But I am not alone in the fact that I must find someone physically attractive to ‘fancy’ them. And there’s literally nothing wrong with that | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though!" I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? | |||
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"OK This is...rare. But I actually have a complaint. I'm looking through the top fabbed photos and come across one which is particularly nice. I was a little curious so decide to have a check of the profile. Says no black men/BBC. TBH I have never had a problem with it and have stated on many occassions that people should be entitle to have their preferences no matter how "un PC" they may seem. But then, what really irked me was this long ass explanation about ssome "heartbreak" with some random black friend or some other shit and I am sitting there thinking to myself...why on earth would someone put this on a profile on a swinging site?? Whats even worse is that I have been speaking to a couple of the Fab users across the pond and I have been left with quite a terrible taste in my mouth. I've always liked the idea that Fab allows people to play according to their fetishes no matter what they are but the sheer amount of race based commentary and hang ups just...took me aback. Especially considering many over there see this site/sleeping with black men as some kind of way to "avenge" their exes. Just kinda disgusted me is all...and thats rare." unfortunately youre generalising as they did but based on three experiences take people as you find them,I do ,I do agree though putting that statement on a profile is so irksome its best left not said and the people concerned just dont reply to messages ,job done  | |||
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"Bit mad generalising all Americans for generalising all black guys ? But .. I'll save you from them .. come to me "harlot | |||
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"  awwww are you offended ? "Nah. Not offended. I do think the OP should put it on his profile so us Americans know up front, though  | |||
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"Bit mad generalising all Americans for generalising all black guys ? But .. I'll save you from them .. come to me harlot"Huh? | |||
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Nah. Not offended. I do think the OP should put it on his profile so us Americans know up front, though "I like Americans | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? " Ok fair enough, that would be fine too. But the same issues would arise. Especially if people said “I don’t like dark skin” or something... imagine the backlash? Whew! Anyway, interesting subject I guess hah. Like I say, what I personally like or not is transcended by my attraction to individuals in specific cases. I would assume it’s the same for everyone but some people communicate it badly? | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? Ok fair enough, that would be fine too. But the same issues would arise. Especially if people said “I don’t like dark skin” or something... imagine the backlash? Whew! Anyway, interesting subject I guess hah. Like I say, what I personally like or not is transcended by my attraction to individuals in specific cases. I would assume it’s the same for everyone but some people communicate it badly?" I'd just make it a positive statement. If i didn't like the look of black people then you could say "she finds brad pitt and Gerald Butler most atttactive so if anyones ever said you have their features then step forward" or "i really dig the red hair/ pale skin look - think of that girl from band camp in american pie". Those are easy ways to change the same thing. Rather than "I'm not racist i just don't fancy n... north african men". | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? Ok fair enough, that would be fine too. But the same issues would arise. Especially if people said “I don’t like dark skin” or something... imagine the backlash? Whew! Anyway, interesting subject I guess hah. Like I say, what I personally like or not is transcended by my attraction to individuals in specific cases. I would assume it’s the same for everyone but some people communicate it badly? I'd just make it a positive statement. If i didn't like the look of black people then you could say "she finds brad pitt and Gerald Butler most atttactive so if anyones ever said you have their features then step forward" or "i really dig the red hair/ pale skin look - think of that girl from band camp in american pie". Those are easy ways to change the same thing. Rather than "I'm not racist i just don't fancy n... north african men". " Excellently put actually | |||
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"You will always have people who will not fancy you for whatever reason everywhere, the important thing is to ensure that people who don't fancy you as an individual, don't affect your self esteem and you locate your fans. When I started, I noticed the reception at some venues was not the best but when I located my fans it was amazing and the strange thing is the women who like me are 100 times more beautiful and of higher quality than those who rejected me. This is my approach in life in general, I am only interested in my fans in all of my activities, the rest don't count." "fans" lol | |||
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"You will always have people who will not fancy you for whatever reason everywhere, the important thing is to ensure that people who don't fancy you as an individual, don't affect your self esteem and you locate your fans. When I started, I noticed the reception at some venues was not the best but when I located my fans it was amazing and the strange thing is the women who like me are 100 times more beautiful and of higher quality than those who rejected me. This is my approach in life in general, I am only interested in my fans in all of my activities, the rest don't count. "fans" lol " Yes fans, anybody you agree with and that person agrees with you , your idea, or for example if you are in business, anybody who goes to the shop and buys a product you created is your fan, your fans commit time and resources to ensure you succeed , they are the ones you should be concerned about and pay attention to, just like footballers play to keep their fans happy, so should you also put in your best in the swinging lifestyle to keep your fans happy. This has to do with your appearance, personal hygiene, attitude etc | |||
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"Can I just say when traveling American girls are the most annoying wingey set of women that I have ever met. I though the British were bad but bloody hell the yanks (and that is coming from someone is a 1/4 American) The American guys are obnoxious as well. I don't get how the Canadians can be so decent l, don't winge, and get on with stuff along with auzies and South Africa's " Hey guy, thanks for showing love to canada - you're a real friend to our nation, buddy | |||
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"Bit mad generalising all Americans for generalising all black guys ? But .. I'll save you from them .. come to me harlot
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"Can I just say when traveling American girls are the most annoying wingey set of women that I have ever met. I though the British were bad but bloody hell the yanks (and that is coming from someone is a 1/4 American) The American guys are obnoxious as well. I don't get how the Canadians can be so decent l, don't winge, and get on with stuff along with auzies and South Africa's Hey guy, thanks for showing love to canada - you're a real friend to our nation, buddy " Nps mate - tbh Canadians are a good laugh version of Americans.  | |||
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"Yet its all perfectly fine when they put they only want black cock, there by generalizing in the opposite direction. Stop complaining that you cant always have your cake and eat it. If a profile says it discludes a section of society and that section is one you fall into move on."  | |||
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"OK This is...rare. But I actually have a complaint. I'm looking through the top fabbed photos and come across one which is particularly nice. I was a little curious so decide to have a check of the profile. Says no black men/BBC. TBH I have never had a problem with it and have stated on many occassions that people should be entitle to have their preferences no matter how "un PC" they may seem. But then, what really irked me was this long ass explanation about ssome "heartbreak" with some random black friend or some other shit and I am sitting there thinking to myself...why on earth would someone put this on a profile on a swinging site?? Whats even worse is that I have been speaking to a couple of the Fab users across the pond and I have been left with quite a terrible taste in my mouth. I've always liked the idea that Fab allows people to play according to their fetishes no matter what they are but the sheer amount of race based commentary and hang ups just...took me aback. Especially considering many over there see this site/sleeping with black men as some kind of way to "avenge" their exes. Just kinda disgusted me is all...and thats rare." So your block list just got a little longer? Cool story, bro.  | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? Ok fair enough, that would be fine too. But the same issues would arise. Especially if people said “I don’t like dark skin” or something... imagine the backlash? Whew! Anyway, interesting subject I guess hah. Like I say, what I personally like or not is transcended by my attraction to individuals in specific cases. I would assume it’s the same for everyone but some people communicate it badly? I'd just make it a positive statement. If i didn't like the look of black people then you could say "she finds brad pitt and Gerald Butler most atttactive so if anyones ever said you have their features then step forward" or "i really dig the red hair/ pale skin look - think of that girl from band camp in american pie". Those are easy ways to change the same thing. Rather than "I'm not racist i just don't fancy n... north african men". " yes I agree subtlety works for me no need for the brutal generalisations that really mean nothing anyway because in life you take people as you find them ,well I do | |||
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"Can I just say when traveling American girls are the most annoying wingey set of women that I have ever met. I though the British were bad but bloody hell the yanks (and that is coming from someone is a 1/4 American) The American guys are obnoxious as well. I don't get how the Canadians can be so decent l, don't winge, and get on with stuff along with auzies and South Africa's " Erm....are you not just whinging there about annoying Americans!! | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. " Maybe the history of segregation and oppression makes interracial relations more of a taboo thing? Also the civil rights movement was only a generation or two ago so maybe some old attitudes still linger a bit? | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. Maybe the history of segregation and oppression makes interracial relations more of a taboo thing? Also the civil rights movement was only a generation or two ago so maybe some old attitudes still linger a bit? " Maybe so...interesting point . The Irish had a similar difficulty from the UK going back along.Now everyone knows we are mad!! | |||
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"Yet its all perfectly fine when they put they only want black cock, there by generalizing in the opposite direction. Stop complaining that you cant always have your cake and eat it. If a profile says it discludes a section of society and that section is one you fall into move on." You didn't read what I wrote and you're being deliberately obtuse. Not entirely surprised tbh | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. It's getting more common here but it's imported via porn rather than being a cultural thing in its own right here. " Exactly. Tbh there are plenty of Asian/black women who specifically seek out white/whatever race partners...and more power to them. FAB allows people to seek their preferences unabated and that is a good thing. Problem is they don't seem to share the strange politicization that Americans do. Is that a generalisation? Well...yeah of course. But one can see it permeates throughout the culture and even in sexuality too. As stated I am not entirely comfortable with everyone who seeks bbc. There have been cases where it felt more like extreme fetish seeking to the point it got...weird. | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. It's getting more common here but it's imported via porn rather than being a cultural thing in its own right here. Exactly. Tbh there are plenty of Asian/black women who specifically seek out white/whatever race partners...and more power to them. FAB allows people to seek their preferences unabated and that is a good thing. Problem is they don't seem to share the strange politicization that Americans do. Is that a generalisation? Well...yeah of course. But one can see it permeates throughout the culture and even in sexuality too. As stated I am not entirely comfortable with everyone who seeks bbc. There have been cases where it felt more like extreme fetish seeking to the point it got...weird." Personally i find the politicization of class in this country to be as annoying as what yoi describe in america. I just think you should distinguish the culture from the individuals. | |||
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"Well, maybe it depends on how it’s said, but if someone doesn’t fancy black people or people of Chinese decent or white people or... whatever, there’s nothing in-PC about it. Skin tone and structure etc is something that affects the attractiveness to certain people. It’s not wrong to not fancy black guys or girls as much as it’s not wrong to not fancy white guys or girls. The story surrounding it is odd. But I don’t think this is an American thing. It’s a bit weird to suggest that Americans are problematic regarding this issue. I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. Of course there’s a degree of generalisation there, but you know precisely what I meant when I wrote it. I for instance, have not seen a race that I haven’t fancied someone from, but typically I like very pale skin with dark hair, so darker skin doesn’t do as much for me. That’s a trait that a lot of people have, so of course that means I’m less attracted to that kind of tone. That said, I’ve still been attracted to many specific people who have darker skin. I don’t believe you can fully and 100% discount a whole race of people, but there’s traits that for the most part people can assume will mean they are less or not attracted to. Understand, some people on here are experienced enough to know precisely what they are looking for. It doesn’t make people wrong for it, and certainly no one can say it means Americans are bad. Everyone dismisses something. I have seen a lot of larger ladies who look great, but I’m simply not turned on by larger body types. It’s not a dig on larger ladies, merely a trait I simply am not at all attracted to. See where I’m coming from? We both take every person as an individual and respond appropriately to each person uniquely, as we wouldn’t cut off a certain type of person. But I am trying to make it clear that some people don’t want to have to keep saying no to something they are not interested in, and it doesn’t mean they’re racist or arrogant or whatever else people may think. It’s not a thread starting subject I can say that much. Lol. Seems to be a thread continuing one though! I don't really understand why people can't just describe the traits they dislike instead of races where the majority have the trait? Ok fair enough, that would be fine too. But the same issues would arise. Especially if people said “I don’t like dark skin” or something... imagine the backlash? Whew! Anyway, interesting subject I guess hah. Like I say, what I personally like or not is transcended by my attraction to individuals in specific cases. I would assume it’s the same for everyone but some people communicate it badly? I'd just make it a positive statement. If i didn't like the look of black people then you could say "she finds brad pitt and Gerald Butler most atttactive so if anyones ever said you have their features then step forward" or "i really dig the red hair/ pale skin look - think of that girl from band camp in american pie". Those are easy ways to change the same thing. Rather than "I'm not racist i just don't fancy n... north african men". " Uh hi. TBH this is not exclusive to "white" couples either. Never really understood the need to tell people stuff like "no gay men/tv's ever!!" I mean Lord knows one is more than entitle to his sexual orientation but would it not be easier just to block all messages from other men and have done with it?? | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. It's getting more common here but it's imported via porn rather than being a cultural thing in its own right here. Exactly. Tbh there are plenty of Asian/black women who specifically seek out white/whatever race partners...and more power to them. FAB allows people to seek their preferences unabated and that is a good thing. Problem is they don't seem to share the strange politicization that Americans do. Is that a generalisation? Well...yeah of course. But one can see it permeates throughout the culture and even in sexuality too. As stated I am not entirely comfortable with everyone who seeks bbc. There have been cases where it felt more like extreme fetish seeking to the point it got...weird. Personally i find the politicization of class in this country to be as annoying as what yoi describe in america. I just think you should distinguish the culture from the individuals. " Classism is even more endemic in British culture than racism is in america. However I think even we have learned not to sexualize class. I mean I can't remember the last time I read about someone not willing to fuck someone on here because they spent the bulk of their time in a coffee shop in Islington. | |||
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"The fact u pretty much named the couple not great. Where did he do that? "coffee shop in Islington maybe narrowed it down to 2.2 million | |||
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"Americans do certainly seem to have a seriously weird obsession with race especially in regards to sex. It's getting more common here but it's imported via porn rather than being a cultural thing in its own right here. Exactly. Tbh there are plenty of Asian/black women who specifically seek out white/whatever race partners...and more power to them. FAB allows people to seek their preferences unabated and that is a good thing. Problem is they don't seem to share the strange politicization that Americans do. Is that a generalisation? Well...yeah of course. But one can see it permeates throughout the culture and even in sexuality too. As stated I am not entirely comfortable with everyone who seeks bbc. There have been cases where it felt more like extreme fetish seeking to the point it got...weird. Personally i find the politicization of class in this country to be as annoying as what yoi describe in america. I just think you should distinguish the culture from the individuals. Classism is even more endemic in British culture than racism is in america. However I think even we have learned not to sexualize class. I mean I can't remember the last time I read about someone not willing to fuck someone on here because they spent the bulk of their time in a coffee shop in Islington." I dare you to post a thread in the lounge saying "i voted tory the other month, fancy a fuck?". When people say "we enjoy the social side of swinging" that's partly saying, we're going to make sure you don't have radically different views to us before i let you violate my wife. | |||
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"OK This is...rare. But I actually have a complaint. I'm looking through the top fabbed photos and come across one which is particularly nice. I was a little curious so decide to have a check of the profile. Says no black men/BBC. TBH I have never had a problem with it and have stated on many occassions that people should be entitle to have their preferences no matter how "un PC" they may seem. But then, what really irked me was this long ass explanation about ssome "heartbreak" with some random black friend or some other shit and I am sitting there thinking to myself...why on earth would someone put this on a profile on a swinging site?? Whats even worse is that I have been speaking to a couple of the Fab users across the pond and I have been left with quite a terrible taste in my mouth. I've always liked the idea that Fab allows people to play according to their fetishes no matter what they are but the sheer amount of race based commentary and hang ups just...took me aback. Especially considering many over there see this site/sleeping with black men as some kind of way to "avenge" their exes. Just kinda disgusted me is all...and thats rare." My wife loves American men, especially cowboys or blacks | |||
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"The rules about gay and bi men donation blood are under review because donations are down 40% over the past 10 years. Maybe there are a lot of 'fab straight' men out there who can't donate... " And there's a lot of 'Fab straight' guys who donate too! | |||
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"The rules about gay and bi men donation blood are under review because donations are down 40% over the past 10 years. Maybe there are a lot of 'fab straight' men out there who can't donate... " Fab straight or otherwise I am not entirely sure the need to state "blood donation" as reasoning for not seeing bi men. Lol it's not like one can even tell the difference | |||
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"The rules about gay and bi men donation blood are under review because donations are down 40% over the past 10 years. Maybe there are a lot of 'fab straight' men out there who can't donate... Fab straight or otherwise I am not entirely sure the need to state "blood donation" as reasoning for not seeing bi men. Lol it's not like one can even tell the difference "I can state whatever reason I like really and you'll just have to suck it up. And there is a difference, albeit sometimes subtle. | |||
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" I can state whatever reason I like really and you'll just have to suck it up. " Pass. | |||
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" I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. " There are few billions fat people and some still very strong preference towards slim - is that something which is prejudicial? For me, even if considering sex, the person, the human being is the most important, and that connection which we make even for 20 minutes. We all have our preferences and nothing wrong with that. But I like the most people who are open to brake them - if the circumstances are right. Not because they are desperate, but because other factors are more important at this very moment. | |||
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" I don't really see how a non-prejudice person could honestly say they don't fancy any chinese / black etc people. There are 1.3 billion chinese, 1.1 billion black people. There's a hell of a lot of variation in those numbers and that's without getting into mixed race people. By all means say "i don't find *insert typical trait* attractive but assuming all people of one group have them is the ridiculous part. There are few billions fat people and some still very strong preference towards slim - is that something which is prejudicial? For me, even if considering sex, the person, the human being is the most important, and that connection which we make even for 20 minutes. We all have our preferences and nothing wrong with that. But I like the most people who are open to brake them - if the circumstances are right. Not because they are desperate, but because other factors are more important at this very moment." Yes, although people hate to admit it, the underlying stereotype is that fat people are lazy. The connotations with fat people are overwhelmingly negative. Just as most news coverage of muslims is very negative and black don't come off brilliantly either. While I'm at it, the real reason most people won't meet bi guys is because they are higher risk of diseases. Prejudices can be based on truth, it's probability at the end of the day. But it's still prejudice. | |||
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