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"No, not at all, love it  "How about the STD aspect of unprotected JBs ? | |||
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"Not in general, no. Many people are happy to have oral both ways with no protection who wouldn't dream of having sex without a condom.." How about the STD aspect of unprotected JBs ? | |||
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"Not in general, no. Many people are happy to have oral both ways with no protection who wouldn't dream of having sex without a condom.. How about the STD aspect of unprotected JBs ?" I think a certain percentage of people aren't aware that its possible to contract STIs via oral. I'm not sure if you're making the point that people should be aware or asking for information. | |||
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"Not in general, no. Many people are happy to have oral both ways with no protection who wouldn't dream of having sex without a condom.. How about the STD aspect of unprotected JBs ?" no i dont worry as much as the risks are much lower. And while possible its highly unlikely you would catch hiv from oral ( yes I know there is a small risk but its very small compared to full sex) We would rather go celibate than start going oral protected. And I ( cali) have also in 18 plus years of having multiple partners never caught anything from oral sex. We do know its a risk still but one that we are prepared to take but will not do bb full sex as the risk is a lot higher. X | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? " im concerned when they want protected oral and then filled up. thats just madness....  | |||
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"Making the point ... when we read about how people think it's so " bad" to have a unprotected fuck , but wouldn't think twice not to use a condom when giving or receiving oral ... that makes us think !!! " What does it make you think ? Do you think if it's ok to suck a bare cock , then why not fuck it bare too ? Or does it make you think that as he may be a risk of getting something from sucking it bare , you wan to suck it with a wrapper ? | |||
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"Hi , but we can't understand why there is less rick in oral , if the person has an STD surely the risk is the same ? " Perhaps the bacteria in the mouth are more resilient ? Or the vagina is more receptive to allowing the infection to reside there ? | |||
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How about the STD aspect of unprotected JBs ? "It is less risk and the chances are very low. | |||
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"No, we sometimes think that people can have double standards over this whole issue.... that's us included... " I think the reduced risk from oral comes from the fact the mouth contains digestive enzymes and the stomach contains weak hydrochloric acid so a less favourable environment for the nasties to get into the blood stream. Of course, if there are cuts in your mouth then you shouldn't have unprotected oral sex. That's why it isn't a good idea to brush your teeth immediately before a meet. Do it earlier in the day and use mouthwash just before instead. The highest risk is for anal sex as the walls of the rectum are so delicate they can perforate very easily allowing any STI a way into the bloodstream. | |||
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"Hi , but we can't understand why there is less rick in oral , if the person has an STD surely the risk is the same ? " no.. its not. The ease of transmission is easier through vagina or even easier still through anal sex compared to oral. Same as the tranmission of std is easier from man to woman.. than a woman to a man. Most clinics wont even do throat swabs anymore unless like me you demand them. I get mine checked because i do not and will not use a condom for bj. There is a higher risk of me catching something from a group situation from cross contamination... ie fingers in a group situation... but again.. if i overly worried. Id never have sex. Most of my interaction with guys is oral sex only. Biggest risk from what i enjoy is facials.... as eyes are very easy way to get infections.. | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? " None. Where does it end? Hazmat suit? | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? " Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI whilst wearing a condom. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI during oral sex. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and think they will catch a STI the first time they have unprotected sex. Some on here who bang on about unprotected sex are naive and do not realise that it is the third riskiest form of sex. Some simply do not understand how the odds of catching or not catching something are calculated or what the odds mean. Instead of banging on in forums about protected or unprotected sex learn the facts and learn what the facts actually mean. Both sides use propaganda to support their point of view. Adults educate themselves and make their own decisions based on the facts of the matter | |||
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"No, we sometimes think that people can have double standards over this whole issue.... that's us included... I think the reduced risk from oral comes from the fact the mouth contains digestive enzymes and the stomach contains weak hydrochloric acid so a less favourable environment for the nasties to get into the blood stream. Of course, if there are cuts in your mouth then you shouldn't have unprotected oral sex. That's why it isn't a good idea to brush your teeth immediately before a meet. Do it earlier in the day and use mouthwash just before instead. The highest risk is for anal sex as the walls of the rectum are so delicate they can perforate very easily allowing any STI a way into the bloodstream." Well said. basically the risk of oral transmission for many STDs is much lower - assuming good dental hygiene and no recent visits to the dentist. That said herpes and gonorrhoea are notable exceptions, and can be transmitted. Oral gonorrhoea can actually naturally resolve after 3 or 4 months (although is still contagious over this period), whereas oral herpes is likely to resort in coldsores for someone giving a BJ, or genital herpes for someone receiving a BJ. However the overall risk of unprotected oral STD transmission is MUCH lower than unprotected vaginal, and MUCH MUCH MUCH lower than unprotected anal. Be safe out there guys. | |||
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"an aldi carrier bag reduces all risks A Harrods one would eliminate them altogether " | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? " On the other side of the coin how about licking women with no protection? | |||
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"What happens when men are licking pussies, there's always cling film I guess XXX" Dental dam is the recommended precautionary method. Available in latex and non latex. Can be flavoured. | |||
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" Just stick it up her bum, that's safe as houses " | |||
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"What happens when men are licking pussies, there's always cling film I guess XXX" Dental dams if you desire more safety. But again, unless the person doing the licking has open sores in their mouth or bleeding gums it is extremely unlikely that any infection would be passed on. | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI whilst wearing a condom. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI during oral sex. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and think they will catch a STI the first time they have unprotected sex. Some on here who bang on about unprotected sex are naive and do not realise that it is the third riskiest form of sex. Some simply do not understand how the odds of catching or not catching something are calculated or what the odds mean. Instead of banging on in forums about protected or unprotected sex learn the facts and learn what the facts actually mean. Both sides use propaganda to support their point of view. Adults educate themselves and make their own decisions based on the facts of the matter " Well said. | |||
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"A full risk assessment means taking account of the likelihood of an event occurring against the consequences of it occurring. However it then gets complicated by the fact that there are multiple different organisms in the form of bacteria and viruses that have different modes of transmission and levels of transmissibility. For instance, risk of transmission of HIV during oral is remote but herpes can be relatively easy to spread in oro-genital contact and guess which one is far more widespread in the community. " The World Health Organisation have estimated that 2/3 of all people under 50 are infected with herpes simplex type 1. I tberefore suggest we only have sex with pensioners. | |||
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"A full risk assessment means taking account of the likelihood of an event occurring against the consequences of it occurring. However it then gets complicated by the fact that there are multiple different organisms in the form of bacteria and viruses that have different modes of transmission and levels of transmissibility. For instance, risk of transmission of HIV during oral is remote but herpes can be relatively easy to spread in oro-genital contact and guess which one is far more widespread in the community. The World Health Organisation have estimated that 2/3 of all people under 50 are infected with herpes simplex type 1. I tberefore suggest we only have sex with pensioners. "Dentists used to get herpetic whitlows on their fingers before they started using gloves. And occasional cases occur in eyes of various health care professionals, who touch face when wearing gloves | |||
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"Do people have the same concerns to unprotected BJs, as they do to bareback fucking ? Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI whilst wearing a condom. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and do not realise that they can catch a STI during oral sex. Some on here who bang on about safe sex are naive and think they will catch a STI the first time they have unprotected sex. Some on here who bang on about unprotected sex are naive and do not realise that it is the third riskiest form of sex. Some simply do not understand how the odds of catching or not catching something are calculated or what the odds mean. Instead of banging on in forums about protected or unprotected sex learn the facts and learn what the facts actually mean. Both sides use propaganda to support their point of view. Adults educate themselves and make their own decisions based on the facts of the matter Whose facts? " | |||
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" Well said. basically the risk of oral transmission for many STDs is much lower - assuming good dental hygiene and no recent visits to the dentist. That said herpes and gonorrhoea are notable exceptions, and can be transmitted. Oral gonorrhoea can actually naturally resolve after 3 or 4 months (although is still contagious over this period), whereas oral herpes is likely to resort in coldsores for someone giving a BJ, or genital herpes for someone receiving a BJ. However the overall risk of unprotected oral STD transmission is MUCH lower than unprotected vaginal, and MUCH MUCH MUCH lower than unprotected anal. Be safe out there guys. " Where do you get your statistics from? Dr. Christopher Hurt, A clinical assistant professor in the division of infectious disease at the University of North Carolina claims that according to the “U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Health Statistics Reports patients visiting STD [sexually transmitted disease] clinics have shown that 5 to 10 percent have gonorrhea in the throat. He also states “I would say that the risk of STD transmission through oral sex is underappreciated and underestimated.” The CDC has stated that "numerous studies have demonstrated that oral sex can result in the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases”. A Chicago study 1998-2002 found that 13.7 percent of P&S syphilis cases were attributed to oral sex. (This worm-like, spiral-shaped organism infects people by burrowing into the moist mucous membranes of the mouth or genitals. I.E. no cuts or bleeding needs to be present to catch this.) | |||
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"No, we sometimes think that people can have double standards over this whole issue.... that's us included... I think the reduced risk from oral comes from the fact the mouth contains digestive enzymes and the stomach contains weak hydrochloric acid so a less favourable environment for the nasties to get into the blood stream. Of course, if there are cuts in your mouth then you shouldn't have unprotected oral sex. That's why it isn't a good idea to brush your teeth immediately before a meet. Do it earlier in the day and use mouthwash just before instead. The highest risk is for anal sex as the walls of the rectum are so delicate they can perforate very easily allowing any STI a way into the bloodstream." Just to add to the brushing your teeth bit. I think shaving down below just before a meet could also be risky behaviour. Leave at least 24 hrs before. Shave earlier. | |||
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" Well said. basically the risk of oral transmission for many STDs is much lower - assuming good dental hygiene and no recent visits to the dentist. That said herpes and gonorrhoea are notable exceptions, and can be transmitted. Oral gonorrhoea can actually naturally resolve after 3 or 4 months (although is still contagious over this period), whereas oral herpes is likely to resort in coldsores for someone giving a BJ, or genital herpes for someone receiving a BJ. However the overall risk of unprotected oral STD transmission is MUCH lower than unprotected vaginal, and MUCH MUCH MUCH lower than unprotected anal. Be safe out there guys. Where do you get your statistics from? Dr. Christopher Hurt, A clinical assistant professor in the division of infectious disease at the University of North Carolina claims that according to the “U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Health Statistics Reports patients visiting STD [sexually transmitted disease] clinics have shown that 5 to 10 percent have gonorrhea in the throat. He also states “I would say that the risk of STD transmission through oral sex is underappreciated and underestimated.” The CDC has stated that "numerous studies have demonstrated that oral sex can result in the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases”. A Chicago study 1998-2002 found that 13.7 percent of P&S syphilis cases were attributed to oral sex. (This worm-like, spiral-shaped organism infects people by burrowing into the moist mucous membranes of the mouth or genitals. I.E. no cuts or bleeding needs to be present to catch this.) " So 86.3% of cases weren't from oral which would suggest it's lower risk? | |||
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" A Chicago study 1998-2002 found that 13.7 percent of P&S syphilis cases were attributed to oral sex. (This worm-like, spiral-shaped organism infects people by burrowing into the moist mucous membranes of the mouth or genitals. I.E. no cuts or bleeding needs to be present to catch this.) So 86.3% of cases weren't from oral which would suggest it's lower risk? " No; that is exactly what we meant when we said some people on Fab do not understand the statistics. The 13.7% were people who had only, repeat only had oral sex. The other 86.3% of cases could not be attributed as the people had had other forms of sex besides oral sex. How many of those 86.3% cases were from oral sex could not be determined it could have been all of them or it could have been none of them. The most likely scenario would be that some had caught it through oral sex and some from other forms of sex or even some from other means of transmission (Sharing needles, blood transfusion, etc.) | |||
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"No, not at all, love it How many have yer sucked off shag ? "lol noone, but they did me there  | |||
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"No, not at all, love it How many have yer sucked off shag ? lol noone, but they did me there "if you eat haribos after bb sex it kills all germs | |||
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" A Chicago study 1998-2002 found that 13.7 percent of P&S syphilis cases were attributed to oral sex. (This worm-like, spiral-shaped organism infects people by burrowing into the moist mucous membranes of the mouth or genitals. I.E. no cuts or bleeding needs to be present to catch this.) So 86.3% of cases weren't from oral which would suggest it's lower risk? No; that is exactly what we meant when we said some people on Fab do not understand the statistics. The 13.7% were people who had only, repeat only had oral sex. The other 86.3% of cases could not be attributed as the people had had other forms of sex besides oral sex. How many of those 86.3% cases were from oral sex could not be determined it could have been all of them or it could have been none of them. The most likely scenario would be that some had caught it through oral sex and some from other forms of sex or even some from other means of transmission (Sharing needles, blood transfusion, etc.) " I understand statistics perfectly well. What you've explained is not what you wrote in the post i questioned. So what point are you trying to make, you seriously think oral sex is as risky as vaginal or anal sex? | |||
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" So in summary eating haribos during oral safe and bum sex safe... all is well in the world Let's have a bb haribo gangbang "We could make a big big sandwich. | |||
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