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"Ok, I'll dress as a French Poodle if you want... (I think that's what I got from your post)" Nice | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " Very true ! Fab is the great equalizer it would appear. | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " They might get a swerve from the 'big I am' dickhead in the local pub, but people with a little bit more about them might like those women in the real world and on here. MrB | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking " Sounds harsh. Surely the meeting (2nd round) has to happen anycase to decide if you're right irrespective of whether the profile is good? | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking " I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then." Ah! So the real issue is just scale. It's not that a decent guy on here has a lot of competition... But rather he's likely to get lost in a sea of crud. Is that right? | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking Sounds harsh. Surely the meeting (2nd round) has to happen anycase to decide if you're right irrespective of whether the profile is good? " For us personally... If a couple or woman can't put together a half decent looking profile then it's a good first indicator they're probably not worth the effort. It seemed, from people's responses, that people looking at guys weren't making the same deduction. But now it seems they are... the only difference is that the vast majority of guys have awful profiles so they get tired trawling through them. Again, I don't know this myself, I'm just paraphrasing what seems to be being suggested | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. Ah! So the real issue is just scale. It's not that a decent guy on here has a lot of competition... But rather he's likely to get lost in a sea of crud. Is that right? " Think the sea of crud makes the good ones stand out further... | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. Ah! So the real issue is just scale. It's not that a decent guy on here has a lot of competition... But rather he's likely to get lost in a sea of crud. Is that right? " There's different difficulties. There are tens of thousands of single guy profiles, ranging from great to awful. Lots are in the awful category. In a club, it is quick and easy to distinguish. I don't really know if you are trying to make a point or argue, it's difficult to know the tone of the post. | |||
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"OK... So are people seriously saying they can tell good guys from bad at a club but on Fab all male profiles seem equally good so it's difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff? Is this women's experience? Is there a bewildering crowd of equally good profiles of guys on here to choose from? Or is the reality that most guy's profiles are awful and there are only really a very few that seem worth bothering with? I don't know... that's why I'm asking I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then." How can you tell if a guy is decent from looking at him? Going off you saying you spot them and then have a convo? | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. How can you tell if a guy is decent from looking at him? Going off you saying you spot them and then have a convo?" You can't by looking at someone. You can tell by how they are engaging with other people, body language and how they interact in general and with us. There are also guys who sit in a corner, avoid eye contact with anyone or wander round wanking, they wouldn't be successful in general. | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. How can you tell if a guy is decent from looking at him? Going off you saying you spot them and then have a convo? You can't by looking at someone. You can tell by how they are engaging with other people, body language and how they interact in general and with us. There are also guys who sit in a corner, avoid eye contact with anyone or wander round wanking, they wouldn't be successful in general." Yeah that makes mire sense. But wait some walk round wanking??? | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. How can you tell if a guy is decent from looking at him? Going off you saying you spot them and then have a convo? You can't by looking at someone. You can tell by how they are engaging with other people, body language and how they interact in general and with us. There are also guys who sit in a corner, avoid eye contact with anyone or wander round wanking, they wouldn't be successful in general. Yeah that makes mire sense. But wait some walk round wanking??? " or sit wanking, or stand wanking looking at porn. Here's an example. we were in Quest last weekend, I (mr) chatted to a single guy in the changing rooms at the end of the night and asked how his night had been. He said it had gone well, he had played three times in the night - once in the glory hole and twice in playrooms. He was an 'average' 40 something guy, reasonable looking, friendly bloke type. I would say he would struggle to stand out in the thousands of fab profiles, but in a club where he could be seen and chat, he had a great time. | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. Ah! So the real issue is just scale. It's not that a decent guy on here has a lot of competition... But rather he's likely to get lost in a sea of crud. Is that right? There's different difficulties. There are tens of thousands of single guy profiles, ranging from great to awful. Lots are in the awful category. In a club, it is quick and easy to distinguish. I don't really know if you are trying to make a point or argue, it's difficult to know the tone of the post." Not making a point or arguing... just interested in what's really going on. It seems there's two stories here. In response to various issues guys have people often say its because there are so many men on here. Yet it seems, although there may be many guys on here, there may not really be all that much choice. One can die of thirst floating out at sea on a raft. We've never gone searching for guys on here. It seems some women find it very easy to find good guys. Mrs Freespirit has met a few at clubs too. A lot of guys get deflated by the scale of the competition. But it may be that there really aren't that many good ones out there. From your post and others, though, it seems there is still a sizeable amount of good guys out there, even if they are lost a little in the crowd | |||
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" I mentioned clubs, but think you've misunderstood. I meant there are thousands of crap male profiles on fab and trawling it to find good ones is hard. At a club, decent guys are easy to spot and you can engage in a conversation with them there and then. How can you tell if a guy is decent from looking at him? Going off you saying you spot them and then have a convo? You can't by looking at someone. You can tell by how they are engaging with other people, body language and how they interact in general and with us. There are also guys who sit in a corner, avoid eye contact with anyone or wander round wanking, they wouldn't be successful in general. Yeah that makes mire sense. But wait some walk round wanking??? or sit wanking, or stand wanking looking at porn. Here's an example. we were in Quest last weekend, I (mr) chatted to a single guy in the changing rooms at the end of the night and asked how his night had been. He said it had gone well, he had played three times in the night - once in the glory hole and twice in playrooms. He was an 'average' 40 something guy, reasonable looking, friendly bloke type. I would say he would struggle to stand out in the thousands of fab profiles, but in a club where he could be seen and chat, he had a great time." Totally agree, actually I like the conversation with guys as well as gals | |||
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"Now overweight is a tricky expression isn't it?Personally I prefer a girl with curves. My ex had body confidence issues due to being mentally abused by her ex husband Although on the cuddly side she was/is very pretty and I was always proud to be seen out with her! There is such a thing as slim ugly girls. So much of it is in the attitude I think? Anyone else know what I'm getting at? Or is everyone so body obsessed? " very well put | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " This is so true ... Some of the states u see with numerous verifications.. | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees." We find plenty of very decent guys to meet and play with . | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. We find plenty of very decent guys to meet and play with . " You've done ok Do you initially message guys or invite those who've messaged you? | |||
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"Here's an example. we were in Quest last weekend, I (mr) chatted to a single guy in the changing rooms at the end of the night and asked how his night had been. He said it had gone well, he had played three times in the night - once in the glory hole and twice in playrooms. He was an 'average' 40 something guy, reasonable looking, friendly bloke type. I would say he would struggle to stand out in the thousands of fab profiles, but in a club where he could be seen and chat, he had a great time." See... This makes me think you're making a different point; that guys are, in general, the brown feathered ducks... so even good ones wouldn't stand out because there's not really all that much difference between good and bad. I'm not making a point... you may well be right | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. This is so true ... Some of the states u see with numerous verifications.." Jeez, nobody should be even thinking of touching those women | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. We find plenty of very decent guys to meet and play with . You've done ok Do you initially message guys or invite those who've messaged you?" A bit of both to be honest . We truly don't see ourselves as being any better than anyone else on here , and when we seek a meet we will put it on our status bar . If no one suitable messages we look at local updates and message those we like the look of . | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. This is so true ... Some of the states u see with numerous verifications.." So glad we don't have a high horse to sit on . It must be a fine place to be in up there | |||
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"Here's an example. we were in Quest last weekend, I (mr) chatted to a single guy in the changing rooms at the end of the night and asked how his night had been. He said it had gone well, he had played three times in the night - once in the glory hole and twice in playrooms. He was an 'average' 40 something guy, reasonable looking, friendly bloke type. I would say he would struggle to stand out in the thousands of fab profiles, but in a club where he could be seen and chat, he had a great time. See... This makes me think you're making a different point; that guys are, in general, the brown feathered ducks... so even good ones wouldn't stand out because there's not really all that much difference between good and bad. I'm not making a point... you may well be right " i dunno, i think that it takes less than 3 messages before you can tell if someone is going to be a good un or a bad un... usually by message number 2 the filth has started to pour out of their brain and into the keyboard. Or you get an opener like 'cum fuk wife now'... | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. This is so true ... Some of the states u see with numerous verifications.. Jeez, nobody should be even thinking of touching those women " yes that is true no touching, heaven for bid you did a hot poker and a bitch slap awaits you from those that deem someone too fat too ugly etc to meet in the real world, i did not know fab was a world, heres to intergalactic sex swaps | |||
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"Now overweight is a tricky expression isn't it?Personally I prefer a girl with curves. My ex had body confidence issues due to being mentally abused by her ex husband Although on the cuddly side she was/is very pretty and I was always proud to be seen out with her! There is such a thing as slim ugly girls. So much of it is in the attitude I think? Anyone else know what I'm getting at? Or is everyone so body obsessed? very well put " A lot of men like a curvy girl..... and for other girls to make derogatory comments about people's weight is bullying and dangerous just because it doesn't fit with them | |||
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"Here's an example. we were in Quest last weekend, I (mr) chatted to a single guy in the changing rooms at the end of the night and asked how his night had been. He said it had gone well, he had played three times in the night - once in the glory hole and twice in playrooms. He was an 'average' 40 something guy, reasonable looking, friendly bloke type. I would say he would struggle to stand out in the thousands of fab profiles, but in a club where he could be seen and chat, he had a great time. See... This makes me think you're making a different point; that guys are, in general, the brown feathered ducks... so even good ones wouldn't stand out because there's not really all that much difference between good and bad. I'm not making a point... you may well be right " I think that's because there is more than one reason, and I remember different things at different times Lots of timewaster or dreamer profiles. Good looking profiles from people who might not actually meet but crap profiles from people who are actually great and do meet... Deciding which is which and planning a meet that might end up a no-show when you only have the one night free isn't easy. The man in the club, who is decent looking and is actually there when you are, has a lot going for him. We've nothing against searching on fab and that's what we do for couples and single ladies. Oh, plus for a single guy meet, we would arrange it in a club anyway, so in some ways it can be just easier to do it all there... | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. We find plenty of very decent guys to meet and play with . You've done ok Do you initially message guys or invite those who've messaged you? A bit of both to be honest . We truly don't see ourselves as being any better than anyone else on here , and when we seek a meet we will put it on our status bar . If no one suitable messages we look at local updates and message those we like the look of ." I know you weren't being superior Of those who message you, what proportion would you say actually come good? | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " Blimey! Is that what you think?? What a shallow and ignorant thing to say! Get real! Most men love bigger women. Grow up | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. We find plenty of very decent guys to meet and play with . You've done ok Do you initially message guys or invite those who've messaged you? A bit of both to be honest . We truly don't see ourselves as being any better than anyone else on here , and when we seek a meet we will put it on our status bar . If no one suitable messages we look at local updates and message those we like the look of . I know you weren't being superior Of those who message you, what proportion would you say actually come good?" One in five | |||
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"We think you are pretty much spot on with the arid desert analogy." Out of curiosity... what is it you're looking for that you're not finding? There seems to be plenty of guys with good physiques on here. Are they just not very good looking? Not very charming? Not genuine? Haven't got the balls to actually meet? Or just not very intelligent? Lol | |||
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"I've met many men who I class as being quality. Others may have a different opinion of them though." Out of 100 profiles how many would catch your eye? Out of 100 guys you've encountered in real life in the scene how many would you say were quality? I know they're out there as Mrs has found them too. I just wonder how common they are, if they actually stand out, or they're just brown ducks that turned out to be quality geezers | |||
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"We continually hear this excuse for so many things on the forums. But, when you think about it, it makes the fatal error of treating all men as equals. There are lots of animals in the Amazonian wilderness. But if you're looking for a French Poodle you're unlikely to find one. So yes... there are a large crowd of men on here to choose from. But what percentage of them offer anything of any quality? Are you women literally overflowing with wonderful options? Or is it still a bit of an arid desert of anything decent? Just curious to take a peek behind the cliche " Thank you. Finally a comment that doesn't generalize all men as dickheads with cock pictures that don't read profiles | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees." What about the decent guys who understand swinging, can be articulate but are uncomfortable with going to a club on your own, this is my dilemma....... not because I'm shy or unconfident, just uncomfortable | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. What about the decent guys who understand swinging, can be articulate but are uncomfortable with going to a club on your own, this is my dilemma....... not because I'm shy or unconfident, just uncomfortable " Not everybody thinks what we do, we meet single guys at clubs, so we will miss out on the ones who don't go there, we know that will be a detriment to us in some cases. | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. " a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks" Makes me feel better as i just turned someone down for a good reason.. bit shit feeling though | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. What about the decent guys who understand swinging, can be articulate but are uncomfortable with going to a club on your own, this is my dilemma....... not because I'm shy or unconfident, just uncomfortable Not everybody thinks what we do, we meet single guys at clubs, so we will miss out on the ones who don't go there, we know that will be a detriment to us in some cases." Understand that, 2 sides to every coin | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. What about the decent guys who understand swinging, can be articulate but are uncomfortable with going to a club on your own, this is my dilemma....... not because I'm shy or unconfident, just uncomfortable " | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " Never had any problems attracting men whether I am thin or fat, on fab or in real life. | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. Never had any problems attracting men whether I am thin or fat, on fab or in real life." sorry not meeting we do not match, good luck in life, instead its too fat too thin to ugly not my type, in these forums , your too fat and would not stand a chance in the real world.. wtf.. why are you on here if life is so so good.. | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. Never had any problems attracting men whether I am thin or fat, on fab or in real life.sorry not meeting we do not match, good luck in life, instead its too fat too thin to ugly not my type, in these forums , your too fat and would not stand a chance in the real world.. wtf.. why are you on here if life is so so good.. " I am here to meet lovely men for 3sums or moresums with me and Mr | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees. What about the decent guys who understand swinging, can be articulate but are uncomfortable with going to a club on your own, this is my dilemma....... not because I'm shy or unconfident, just uncomfortable " I can totally understand this Have you thought of making some single male friends on here and going together so you're not alone? After a few visits you get to know the regulars and develop a social circle and can go alone I know guys off here who have done this and it works | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks" Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . | |||
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"We continually hear this excuse for so many things on the forums. But, when you think about it, it makes the fatal error of treating all men as equals. There are lots of animals in the Amazonian wilderness. But if you're looking for a French Poodle you're unlikely to find one. So yes... there are a large crowd of men on here to choose from. But what percentage of them offer anything of any quality? Are you women literally overflowing with wonderful options? Or is it still a bit of an arid desert of anything decent? Just curious to take a peek behind the cliche " I really struggle on here, so I am used to going without any sex | |||
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"Flippin' tumbles in York men-wise. Its a shame as the ones I do meet at socials are lovely, but not interested in me at all. I just get messages from the ones trying it on with every woman they see, regardless of distance or compatibility." Should we try and start some sort of club? Not sure what type to be honest, but I have just been sell and totally catfished | |||
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"Flippin' tumbles in York men-wise. Its a shame as the ones I do meet at socials are lovely, but not interested in me at all. I just get messages from the ones trying it on with every woman they see, regardless of distance or compatibility. Should we try and start some sort of club? Not sure what type to be honest, but I have just been sell and totally catfished " I don't get catfished, just stood up. I'm good with any club as long as there's booze. | |||
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"Flippin' tumbles in York men-wise. Its a shame as the ones I do meet at socials are lovely, but not interested in me at all. I just get messages from the ones trying it on with every woman they see, regardless of distance or compatibility. Should we try and start some sort of club? Not sure what type to be honest, but I have just been sell and totally catfished I don't get catfished, just stood up. I'm good with any club as long as there's booze." It was only on here lol as I thought that doesn't match the profile lol (once sent the face) Booze definitely just where do we find single good looking honest males? I have no bloody idea | |||
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"Flippin' tumbles in York men-wise. Its a shame as the ones I do meet at socials are lovely, but not interested in me at all. I just get messages from the ones trying it on with every woman they see, regardless of distance or compatibility. Should we try and start some sort of club? Not sure what type to be honest, but I have just been sell and totally catfished I don't get catfished, just stood up. I'm good with any club as long as there's booze. It was only on here lol as I thought that doesn't match the profile lol (once sent the face) Booze definitely just where do we find single good looking honest males? I have no bloody idea " Me neither. The booze is so we don't care. | |||
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"I agree. There are lots of male posts complaining about not getting any responses, I recommend guys go and meet people at clubs/gatherings....it's an extension of what we all do socially? " I want to go to clubs/gathering but chicken out. I message singles and couples to try to get to know them, we chat for a whiles then they go cold and most times block me when i ask if they want to meet. Where am i going wrong?? | |||
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"This why we often bang on about clubs. When we and friends have looked for guys at clubs there are often a lack of decent ones. We aren't snobby or over picky, but we know many people have said an average looking guy who can hold a conversation and understands swinging goes, he does well. But I do have sympathy for the decent guys who limit themselves to fab only, as they will struggle, it is hard to see the wood for the trees." This. All day long. | |||
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"Flippin' tumbles in York men-wise. Its a shame as the ones I do meet at socials are lovely, but not interested in me at all. I just get messages from the ones trying it on with every woman they see, regardless of distance or compatibility. Should we try and start some sort of club? Not sure what type to be honest, but I have just been sell and totally catfished I don't get catfished, just stood up. I'm good with any club as long as there's booze. It was only on here lol as I thought that doesn't match the profile lol (once sent the face) Booze definitely just where do we find single good looking honest males? I have no bloody idea Me neither. The booze is so we don't care." Speak for yourself | |||
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"We continually hear this excuse for so many things on the forums. But, when you think about it, it makes the fatal error of treating all men as equals. There are lots of animals in the Amazonian wilderness. But if you're looking for a French Poodle you're unlikely to find one. So yes... there are a large crowd of men on here to choose from. But what percentage of them offer anything of any quality? Are you women literally overflowing with wonderful options? Or is it still a bit of an arid desert of anything decent? Just curious to take a peek behind the cliche " I like the Op, I think she is very sweet, will be in Xstasia on the 14 of July if you will like to meet up but I digress, op what is your idea of a quality guy that makes you go wet, what are you looking at on face value | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . " Jeez... chill We all have preferences Just so happens some of us on this thread don't want to fuck people who've fucked anything with a pulse! Nobody said they were perfect that's just our choice | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. " I used to be in the RAF (10 males to every female) ....most females in the RAF are in the 'swerve' category, but they all feel like Fairy Pricesses in the RAF (I was a swerver) | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. I used to be in the RAF (10 males to every female) ....most females in the RAF are in the 'swerve' category, but they all feel like Fairy Pricesses in the RAF (I was a swerver) " They were "fab curvy"? I clearly chose the wrong profession | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . Jeez... chill We all have preferences Just so happens some of us on this thread don't want to fuck people who've fucked anything with a pulse! Nobody said they were perfect that's just our choice" Anything with a pulse , nice . i have no issue at all with anyone's preference , I just don't get why some people love to put others down . It's unnecessary , and if you can't see that the post you quoted was arrogant , then read it again . Hey ho , choices you say ? By all means stick to your choices but is it really necessary to suggest that the women some guys go with mean he has no standards ? Think about it from their perspective . | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. I used to be in the RAF (10 males to every female) ....most females in the RAF are in the 'swerve' category, but they all feel like Fairy Pricesses in the RAF (I was a swerver) " And how are you finding things on here ? | |||
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"I'd say the women have way more choice than the men. Not being unkind to my fellow women but I'd say 6 out of every 10 women on here will be either overweight or some other reason where they'd normally get a swerve if they were in the real world. I used to be in the RAF (10 males to every female) ....most females in the RAF are in the 'swerve' category, but they all feel like Fairy Pricesses in the RAF (I was a swerver) And how are you finding things on here ?" Not good, but then again, I've not put in the effort...being frank, I've always hated competing (especially if the prize isn't worth having!)....& being on here is like being in the RAF all over again! | |||
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"And what have you to offer? " A photo or two (which is more than you have ) & a 'can I really be arsed with this' type profile. To give you an example...I'm on POF (a dating website)...I get 2-3 emails per days from women....the POF system tells me that 303 women say they want to meet me (since I joined a few months ago). Today I received two emails on here - both from single men! | |||
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" So yes... there are a large crowd of men on here to choose from. But what percentage of them offer anything of any quality? Are you women literally overflowing with wonderful options? Or is it still a bit of an arid desert of anything decent? Just curious to take a peek behind the cliche " It's hard to say what percentage would be worthwhile to us. Our time is very restricted, and I'm sure we have passed by many quality guys because we are unable to get out for a meet. However, we find we only need 2 or 3 guys, so once that is achieved we don't need to look for any more. It would be hard starting again though with no contacts. Mrs | |||
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"And what have you to offer? A photo or two (which is more than you have ) & a 'can I really be arsed with this' type profile. To give you an example...I'm on POF (a dating website)...I get 2-3 emails per days from women....the POF system tells me that 303 women say they want to meet me (since I joined a few months ago). Today I received two emails on here - both from single men!" For dating though | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . Jeez... chill We all have preferences Just so happens some of us on this thread don't want to fuck people who've fucked anything with a pulse! Nobody said they were perfect that's just our choice Anything with a pulse , nice . i have no issue at all with anyone's preference , I just don't get why some people love to put others down . It's unnecessary , and if you can't see that the post you quoted was arrogant , then read it again . Hey ho , choices you say ? By all means stick to your choices but is it really necessary to suggest that the women some guys go with mean he has no standards ? Think about it from their perspective ." I'm on here to meet people with similar tastes to my own If I've touched a nerve that says more about you than me Not judging anyone or putting them down Preferences... I like gym fit, intelligent people Others like BBWs That's their choice the same as mine is mine How is not wanting to fuck fat people judging people? Some people find muscles a total turn off I just think you're mistaking an opinion for being judgemental purely cause I don't have the same views as you Not going to waste my breath justifying myself any further you're clearly just determined to be argumentative whatever is said | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock." I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . Jeez... chill We all have preferences Just so happens some of us on this thread don't want to fuck people who've fucked anything with a pulse! Nobody said they were perfect that's just our choice Anything with a pulse , nice . i have no issue at all with anyone's preference , I just don't get why some people love to put others down . It's unnecessary , and if you can't see that the post you quoted was arrogant , then read it again . Hey ho , choices you say ? By all means stick to your choices but is it really necessary to suggest that the women some guys go with mean he has no standards ? Think about it from their perspective . I'm on here to meet people with similar tastes to my own If I've touched a nerve that says more about you than me Not judging anyone or putting them down Preferences... I like gym fit, intelligent people Others like BBWs That's their choice the same as mine is mine How is not wanting to fuck fat people judging people? Some people find muscles a total turn off I just think you're mistaking an opinion for being judgemental purely cause I don't have the same views as you Not going to waste my breath justifying myself any further you're clearly just determined to be argumentative whatever is said " Not once did I suggest you should change your preferences . Nor did I say you should shag fat people . My inference was that there's no need to slate anyone on here for their preferences by suggesting that they would go with anything with a pulse . That's judgemental however you choose to look at it . Anyway , enough said , and yes you may say you've touched a nerve which you think says more about me than you . But if you care to read read the post you originally quoted , I think I am happy to have that nerve touched . | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. " Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky"" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications" Can you predict the result when in a fledgling relationship you ask "So what are your opinions on swinging?" [door slams shut] .. & there's the dilemna ...a vanilla dating website might generate a lot of interest, but personally, it's a bit of dealbreaker for me if they're not open minded (most dating website's don't have 'swinging' as a selectable interest). But come to an openminded website like fabswingers & the ratio of men to women is astronomical....and you end up as a needle in a sexual haystack. | |||
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"How is not wanting to fuck fat people judging people? Some people find muscles a total turn off" Surely you weren't saying you wouldn't "fuck fat people" but that you wouldn't even have sex with people who do "fuck fat people"? Those "fat people" being, in your words, "anything with a pulse"... and those who have sex with such borderline humans presumably having something wrong with them either going into it or coming out. Wasn't that the thought process? Wow I think that's just about up there as the most offensive paragraph I've ever written. That's what Fab brings you to | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications Can you predict the result when in a fledgling relationship you ask "So what are your opinions on swinging?" [door slams shut] .. & there's the dilemna ...a vanilla dating website might generate a lot of interest, but personally, it's a bit of dealbreaker for me if they're not open minded (most dating website's don't have 'swinging' as a selectable interest). But come to an openminded website like fabswingers & the ratio of men to women is astronomical....and you end up as a needle in a sexual haystack." Yes I can Neil asked me, we met on a dating website. I was so relieved to find a man who was good fun and sexy. We have been here ever since enjoying ourselves and each other | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications Can you predict the result when in a fledgling relationship you ask "So what are your opinions on swinging?" [door slams shut] .. & there's the dilemna ...a vanilla dating website might generate a lot of interest, but personally, it's a bit of dealbreaker for me if they're not open minded (most dating website's don't have 'swinging' as a selectable interest). But come to an openminded website like fabswingers & the ratio of men to women is astronomical....and you end up as a needle in a sexual haystack. Yes I can Neil asked me, we met on a dating website. I was so relieved to find a man who was good fun and sexy. We have been here ever since enjoying ourselves and each other " Believe me, you're the exception ...theres a dating website called OKCupid - you can answer a sex questionaire (they then try & match you using this as one of the compatinbility factirs)...once of the questions is "Threesomes/Group sex?" .....I'd say 49 out of 50 womens' response to that question is "it is of no interest to me" ...& that's the sad truth, to most women a Vanilla lifestyle is livin' the dream. | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications Can you predict the result when in a fledgling relationship you ask "So what are your opinions on swinging?" [door slams shut] .. & there's the dilemna ...a vanilla dating website might generate a lot of interest, but personally, it's a bit of dealbreaker for me if they're not open minded (most dating website's don't have 'swinging' as a selectable interest). But come to an openminded website like fabswingers & the ratio of men to women is astronomical....and you end up as a needle in a sexual haystack. Yes I can Neil asked me, we met on a dating website. I was so relieved to find a man who was good fun and sexy. We have been here ever since enjoying ourselves and each other Believe me, you're the exception ...theres a dating website called OKCupid - you can answer a sex questionaire (they then try & match you using this as one of the compatinbility factirs)...once of the questions is "Threesomes/Group sex?" .....I'd say 49 out of 50 womens' response to that question is "it is of no interest to me" ...& that's the sad truth, to most women a Vanilla lifestyle is livin' the dream." Sadly that dream was my nightmare, my swinging relationship suits me just fine and him | |||
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"It's basic supply & demand & therefore 'market forces' dictate that you need to have George Clooney's looks, have Chris Hemsworth's physique, the wit of Stephen Fry, a vocabulary to rival Rachel Riley ....& a massive cock. I have the same standards on here and on dating sites. Fun, sexy and open minded. Well like I say...on my dating website profile I get a fair amount of emails (not wanting that to sound braggy but simply use it as a comparison)...on here I get squat - than heavens for POF, else I'd be propping up a bar somewhere lamenting "wimmen' schwimmin...gimme another whishky" Stick to that site then surely ....I get great sec here with no complications Can you predict the result when in a fledgling relationship you ask "So what are your opinions on swinging?" [door slams shut] .. & there's the dilemna ...a vanilla dating website might generate a lot of interest, but personally, it's a bit of dealbreaker for me if they're not open minded (most dating website's don't have 'swinging' as a selectable interest). But come to an openminded website like fabswingers & the ratio of men to women is astronomical....and you end up as a needle in a sexual haystack." Interesting responses. I really think men are just more naturally inclined towards polyamory than women. In most stories of affairs it always seems the guy is quite happy having a primary family relationship and a secondary sexual relationship. Women seem to prefer more monogamous situations. This seems to be the dividing line between the dating sites and Fab. On here it's more tuned into sex the way guys want it, passionate and hot but without any baggage. On dating sites it's more tuned to sex the way women want it, passionate and hot, but only after you've finished loading all my heavy baggage, warts and all, onto it. They're both right of course. Sex with a connection is the best... and relationships are often best started with a no baggage mindset. This is why women and men work well together when they click | |||
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"How is not wanting to fuck fat people judging people? Some people find muscles a total turn off Surely you weren't saying you wouldn't "fuck fat people" but that you wouldn't even have sex with people who do "fuck fat people"? Those "fat people" being, in your words, "anything with a pulse"... and those who have sex with such borderline humans presumably having something wrong with them either going into it or coming out. Wasn't that the thought process? Wow I think that's just about up there as the most offensive paragraph I've ever written. That's what Fab brings you to " | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. a guy that has no standards is a total turn off for me no matter how fit he looks Hang on .... Who are these women who guys with no standards go with ? Keep the bar up ? Could we have a list of those people who shouldn't really be getting meets please . I'd hate to think that we may have ever lowered our bar ..... or worse still that guys who meet us are letting the team down by lowering theirs . The arrogance of some people is truly unbelievable sometimes . How wonderful it must be to be perfect , and to sit in judgement of those you consider below you . Jeez... chill We all have preferences Just so happens some of us on this thread don't want to fuck people who've fucked anything with a pulse! Nobody said they were perfect that's just our choice" Don't worry you'll meet someone you like if you keep looking. Not everyone is put off by women with loads of verifications. | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. " Care to elaborate on this ? | |||
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"Some very desperate men on here to after seeing what they chase. Seriously keep the bar high guys. " i dont know about keeping it high, but ill gladly prop it up! | |||
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