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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby

Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?

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By *inifeggMan
over a year ago

BRISTOL

I have never been, but would like to go. I'm very intrigued by it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

percentage is pushing it a bit...

some prefer it whilst some don't...

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

We love clubs.

We have had meets away from clubs and enjoyed them too.

But, at clubs, you also have the advantage of chatting and meeting people who you wouldn't find otherwise, and none of the hassle of wondering if they are who they claim etc.

We've done organised meets at clubs and played with people we've met on the night.

Big thumbs up from us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I feel happier at clubs.. private meets always seem to be pushy and awkward.

Clubs there is no pressure and plenty of options x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male. "

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love the club scene, no pressure, lots of fun whether that's socialising or playing and good value for money if you take the time to research rather than just going for the first place that you see

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

We much p reffer clubs, if you click than awesome, if not no problem, still a good night out.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?"

Clubs all the way, it's just the right environment and you can choose to play or not as most people are on the same page.

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

Clubs as well

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......"

As a couple we pay £33 so it's dearer than as a single guy.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman
over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton

I prefer the clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love clubs as said above great night out with no pressure x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

As a couple we pay £33 so it's dearer than as a single guy."

If I went to the pictures, a bar, a restaurant. Guess what a male and female pay the same for entry, meals, drinks and if two of us went it would be cheaper than just one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......"

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal. "

then dont go to clubs but for us its the only way we meet.. and thankfully many greay guys and girls go to.

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal. "

Do that instead then. Most people decide if they are happy to pay for an activity or not. If what somebody else has paid is an issue then dont go, everybody who does go will have great time regardless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal. then dont go to clubs but for us its the only way we meet.. and thankfully many greay guys and girls go to. "

I don't go. I believe in equality. I pay males and females the same. If they do the job, they get paid and paid well.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

I prefer private meets to visiting clubs, my experience of the club scene has been lack-lustre in comparison to the fun I've shared elsewhere

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"I have never been, but would like to go. I'm very intrigued by it"

Go for it mate; you might like it, or you might not, but you won't know if you don't go

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By *wcwCouple
over a year ago

cheshire


"Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?"
clubs are good. No pressure. N you can pick n choose who or what to do.

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By *ack with a bangCouple
over a year ago

Hastings

Love the club's to socialise and meet people but prefer to arrange play away from the club's. We have played at them but very rarely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clubs all the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Club chams for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we like clubs best although we do have some private meets,

at a club you don't have to do anything if you don't want to but we still have fun,and you get to see who you are going to play with before you engage in any serious chat

plus you don't have to worry if your private meet don't turn up or the meet is not what you was expecting avoiding that awkward moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male. "

its not about extra, how much do you pay to go to a vanilla club for a normal night out, most don't get change from a minimum £50,

how much do you want to pay for a fun night out

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

We enjoy clubs and we enjoy private meets both provide things to provided in the other

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby

It's interesting to hear that most prefer clubs, we have been in the scene for ten years and have always preferred the club scene but have noticed quite a drop in numbers using clubs in the Midlands over that time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?"

We enjoy going to a club as you don't have to play if you dont want and you also get to meet more people and enjoy socialising

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love clubs as you get to meet and watch more people and less chance of being let down than at "normal' meets

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By *inkyChrissy99TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

I enjoy both tbh but I do find private parties more fun

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male. "

I spend no more going to a club on a saturday night.... than i would going out on the town on a saturday night......

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

Clubs all the way. Cuts out the timewasters from here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

I spend no more going to a club on a saturday night.... than i would going out on the town on a saturday night......

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Good point, but it seems to be a difficult point for some to understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal. "

Common prices go like this:

Single males £20

Couples £10

Single girls £0

This can make it seem like girls are too arrogant to pay for something they can get for free, and that men are desperate enough to cover the fees involved in keeping a club running for said girls

It also appears that if you're a guy who bring an attraction to the night, you basically get a discount.

Girls being free is shocking though, as it reinforces the idea that they can have everything they want for free. There's a reason you get girls on here who make little to no effort with conversation and simply float by on the fact that they have a fanny.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal.

Common prices go like this:

Single males £20

Couples £10

Single girls £0

This can make it seem like girls are too arrogant to pay for something they can get for free, and that men are desperate enough to cover the fees involved in keeping a club running for said girls

It also appears that if you're a guy who bring an attraction to the night, you basically get a discount.

Girls being free is shocking though, as it reinforces the idea that they can have everything they want for free. There's a reason you get girls on here who make little to no effort with conversation and simply float by on the fact that they have a fanny. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal.

Common prices go like this:

Single males £20

Couples £10

Single girls £0

This can make it seem like girls are too arrogant to pay for something they can get for free, and that men are desperate enough to cover the fees involved in keeping a club running for said girls

It also appears that if you're a guy who bring an attraction to the night, you basically get a discount.

Girls being free is shocking though, as it reinforces the idea that they can have everything they want for free. There's a reason you get girls on here who make little to no effort with conversation and simply float by on the fact that they have a fanny. "

Single women in clubs don't make any effort?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

its not about extra, how much do you pay to go to a vanilla club for a normal night out, most don't get change from a minimum £50,

how much do you want to pay for a fun night out

"

Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Clubs are great when the mix of people is balanced. However,there are certain play where others can be a distraction and take the focus away from what you are doing.

So it's a yes and no...

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Definitely clubs for us...relaxed, fun and friendly environments.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

We love the club scene and all the different characters and people you meet it is great for socialising and talking openly about our hobby and what we enjoy.

However once we have met and clicked with a couple or single lady it can be mind blowing to have a private meet with them at a later date where everyone can focus totally on each other and really let themselves go.

So a mixture of both for us but more often than not it's the club's.

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clubs are great when the mix of people is balanced. However,there are certain play where others can be a distraction and take the focus away from what you are doing.

So it's a yes and no..."

Would you mind elaborating about the certain play?

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By *hell and jWoman
over a year ago

Worksop

Clubs socials or partys best wsy to meet genuine people off fab xx if no likey no lights xx but still good night out

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby


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Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products. "

Simple case of supply and demand if there were more single gents than couples and single ladies then it would be a very male dominated atmosphere and that would be a little off putting to a lot of couples and ladies. Our opinion some may disagree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

its not about extra, how much do you pay to go to a vanilla club for a normal night out, most don't get change from a minimum £50,

how much do you want to pay for a fun night out

Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products. "

Maybe you should make some sort of legal case against clubs over their prices.

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By *heeseandWineCouple
over a year ago

Reading and Southampton

Its clubs for us and on a day like today clubs like Eureka and Kestrals are simply the best places to go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products.

Simple case of supply and demand if there were more single gents than couples and single ladies then it would be a very male dominated atmosphere and that would be a little off putting to a lot of couples and ladies. Our opinion some may disagree."

Basically they don't want males.So if someone decided there are too many women drivers then lets put up the prices of cars, fuel, road tax and insurance for women. There we go sorted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products.

Simple case of supply and demand if there were more single gents than couples and single ladies then it would be a very male dominated atmosphere and that would be a little off putting to a lot of couples and ladies. Our opinion some may disagree.

Basically they don't want males.So if someone decided there are too many women drivers then lets put up the prices of cars, fuel, road tax and insurance for women. There we go sorted. "

If they didn't want single guys, they would simply have that as a rule.

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley

The argument about the high cost for guys is always gonna rage on. Some guys won't accept the fact that something has to be done to balance the ratio of guys to girls attending but some couples and single girls also need to realise that if guys on here are complaining about the high cost, it's because they feel priced out of the scene. As a few folks said on the Kestrels thread, 40 quid for a day there with access to all the facilities they provide still isn't a bad deal but you've still gotta have the 40 quid to spend in the first place. I can afford it, so I go quite regularly, if I could only afford it on occasions I'd look forward to it as a treat, but if I was never able to scrap the money together, I'd probably feel excluded too. Some couples do have a pop every time this comes up at guys who say it's too expensive without ever stopping to think about what that person's financial situation might be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?"

I would love to try, but I think it would make it easier going with a femaleas appose to going as a single man, I went to a Hot tub social in which there were 10 ish people and was a very relaxed affair so I think that is a great starter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The argument about the high cost for guys is always gonna rage on. Some guys won't accept the fact that something has to be done to balance the ratio of guys to girls attending but some couples and single girls also need to realise that if guys on here are complaining about the high cost, it's because they feel priced out of the scene. As a few folks said on the Kestrels thread, 40 quid for a day there with access to all the facilities they provide still isn't a bad deal but you've still gotta have the 40 quid to spend in the first place. I can afford it, so I go quite regularly, if I could only afford it on occasions I'd look forward to it as a treat, but if I was never able to scrap the money together, I'd probably feel excluded too. Some couples do have a pop every time this comes up at guys who say it's too expensive without ever stopping to think about what that person's financial situation might be."

We don't want a sensible answer or an agreement. How can a neverending circular argument continue if your going to be sensible, rational and bring forward some kind of solution

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clubs socials or partys best wsy to meet genuine people off fab xx if no likey no lights xx but still good night out"

Totally agree, but it's extremely nervewracking, or it is for me, to go to one on your own for the first time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The argument about the high cost for guys is always gonna rage on. Some guys won't accept the fact that something has to be done to balance the ratio of guys to girls attending but some couples and single girls also need to realise that if guys on here are complaining about the high cost, it's because they feel priced out of the scene. As a few folks said on the Kestrels thread, 40 quid for a day there with access to all the facilities they provide still isn't a bad deal but you've still gotta have the 40 quid to spend in the first place. I can afford it, so I go quite regularly, if I could only afford it on occasions I'd look forward to it as a treat, but if I was never able to scrap the money together, I'd probably feel excluded too. Some couples do have a pop every time this comes up at guys who say it's too expensive without ever stopping to think about what that person's financial situation might be.

We don't want a sensible answer or an agreement. How can a neverending circular argument continue if your going to be sensible, rational and bring forward some kind of solution "

Where's your sensible answer?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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how much do you want to pay for a fun night out

Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products. "

and you are also missing the point....

you are making a comparison that others don't make...

the comparison i make is how much would i spend going to club on a saturday night as compared to how much i would spend doing something else on the same saturday night.....

i don't do the politics of envy....

if you believe everyone should play the same price for everything, then never engaged the person next to you on a plane or on a train.... or ask someone else how much they paid for their hotel room.....

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By *onny MCMan
over a year ago

Crawley


"The argument about the high cost for guys is always gonna rage on. Some guys won't accept the fact that something has to be done to balance the ratio of guys to girls attending but some couples and single girls also need to realise that if guys on here are complaining about the high cost, it's because they feel priced out of the scene. As a few folks said on the Kestrels thread, 40 quid for a day there with access to all the facilities they provide still isn't a bad deal but you've still gotta have the 40 quid to spend in the first place. I can afford it, so I go quite regularly, if I could only afford it on occasions I'd look forward to it as a treat, but if I was never able to scrap the money together, I'd probably feel excluded too. Some couples do have a pop every time this comes up at guys who say it's too expensive without ever stopping to think about what that person's financial situation might be.

We don't want a sensible answer or an agreement. How can a neverending circular argument continue if your going to be sensible, rational and bring forward some kind of solution "

Sorry, I think I just slipped into a parallel universe, did you just describe me as sensible and rational? I'd love to show that quote to the people at work but then there'd be a very awkward conversation about me going to swingers clubs.

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby

This thread wasn't started for single guys to have a moan about pricing we were trying to find out why club numbers seem to have dropped off over a number of years, clubs still seem a popular choice with couples reading the threads so maybe the clubs need to get clever with how they encourage people to use them.

Any ideas on the perfect venue?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male.

Yes, don't pay £25 to have great night out, that would be crazy......

When I go gigging I have a great night out and I get paid. Those attending the gig or the bar at the venue all pay the same price. We believe in equality. All are equal.

Common prices go like this:

Single males £20

Couples £10

Single girls £0

This can make it seem like girls are too arrogant to pay for something they can get for free, and that men are desperate enough to cover the fees involved in keeping a club running for said girls

It also appears that if you're a guy who bring an attraction to the night, you basically get a discount.

Girls being free is shocking though, as it reinforces the idea that they can have everything they want for free. There's a reason you get girls on here who make little to no effort with conversation and simply float by on the fact that they have a fanny. "

We disagree to us the fact that single girls are allowed in free shows that they are used as bait to attract men.

It also reinforces the idea that men have a right to a fuck when they visit a club because they pay and single girls don’t.

We do however understand the reasons why it is done, and the fact that such pricing does on the whole work.

Until a better way of encouraging the correct balance of males and females in a club we cannot see a better pricing policy.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"This thread wasn't started for single guys to have a moan about pricing we were trying to find out why club numbers seem to have dropped off over a number of years, clubs still seem a popular choice with couples reading the threads so maybe the clubs need to get clever with how they encourage people to use them.

Any ideas on the perfect venue?"

We would suggest the answer to this is complex but is partly to do with the internet and mobile phones.

Both the above make contact and arranging a meet far easier than it was when contact magazines were the main route.

In addition the internet allows virtual meets where people video chat with others and gain stimulation that way.

There is also an abundance of reasonably priced hotels with less formal entry procedures enabling group sex to take place.

Finally there is the privacy issue, people can take pictures and videos during a private meet but cannot in a club due to privacy of the other club members.

There is however a place for clubs both now and for years to come as clubs offer facilities not available at private meets.

They are ideal for voyeurs, those who simply want to socialise, exhibitionists and those who like to meet random people.

They are also perfect for the group we would call unmarried couples (fuck buddies, engaged couples etc.) who are looking for a place to be intimate with each other without having to book a hotel.

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby


"This thread wasn't started for single guys to have a moan about pricing we were trying to find out why club numbers seem to have dropped off over a number of years, clubs still seem a popular choice with couples reading the threads so maybe the clubs need to get clever with how they encourage people to use them.

Any ideas on the perfect venue?

We would suggest the answer to this is complex but is partly to do with the internet and mobile phones.

Both the above make contact and arranging a meet far easier than it was when contact magazines were the main route.

In addition the internet allows virtual meets where people video chat with others and gain stimulation that way.

There is also an abundance of reasonably priced hotels with less formal entry procedures enabling group sex to take place.

Finally there is the privacy issue, people can take pictures and videos during a private meet but cannot in a club due to privacy of the other club members.

There is however a place for clubs both now and for years to come as clubs offer facilities not available at private meets.

They are ideal for voyeurs, those who simply want to socialise, exhibitionists and those who like to meet random people.

They are also perfect for the group we would call unmarried couples (fuck buddies, engaged couples etc.) who are looking for a place to be intimate with each other without having to book a hotel.

"

A very well written sensible reply and also echoes our own personal views on declining numbers hence the reason clubs need to evolve with the times, how they achieve that is a different question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Common prices go like this:

Single males £20

Couples £10

Single girls £0

This can make it seem like girls are too arrogant to pay for something they can get for free, and that men are desperate enough to cover the fees involved in keeping a club running for said girls

We disagree to us the fact that single girls are allowed in free shows that they are used as bait to attract men.

It also reinforces the idea that men have a right to a fuck when they visit a club because they pay and single girls don’t.

"

well said most men i have noticed in clubs follow us around with tongue hanging out its off putting and if there was more men to woman would have packs after us its not attractive and certainly not inviting especially when most have the attitude of i paid more im entitled to touch while they busy without being asked or stick my cock near their mouth when i have not been invited yes that's what single ladie in clubs put upbwith and ypu complain about a cheap night out

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By *olliPineCouple
over a year ago

swingers clubs

Our preference is clubs.

You know everyone there isn't a no-show as they're already there. We can see straight away if we find someone attractive for play. There's somewhere to play!

If there's no one there we'll play with then we can still be social and end the night just the two of us in a play room - messy and noisy as we like. Both messy and not finding the private meet attractive being issues going to a private house which ends up a waste of a night.

Or when you're on your way to theirs then they have some 'work emergency' and aren't there after all.

There's the possibility of multiple playmates in a club

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By *ischief ManagedCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Clubs all the way ! No pressure, fun nights, and meet new friends

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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

We've played for many years and yet clubs are a fairly recent addition to our play. All I'll say is I wish we'd tried it earlier.

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By *ustyBBW42Couple
over a year ago

bromsgrove

We love clubs as there are no time waster there , and never know what fun people your going to meet,

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By *ustyBBW42Couple
over a year ago

bromsgrove


"Our preference is clubs.

You know everyone there isn't a no-show as they're already there. We can see straight away if we find someone attractive for play. There's somewhere to play!

If there's no one there we'll play with then we can still be social and end the night just the two of us in a play room - messy and noisy as we like. Both messy and not finding the private meet attractive being issues going to a private house which ends up a waste of a night.

Or when you're on your way to theirs then they have some 'work emergency' and aren't there after all.

There's the possibility of multiple playmates in a club"

Well put

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport

Now I feel better, yes the club is a wonderful place to meet people. The atmosphere is filled with people with filthy minds and if you play your cards right, you might get lucky. I however, prefer parties to clubs. Will explain later.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products.

Simple case of supply and demand if there were more single gents than couples and single ladies then it would be a very male dominated atmosphere and that would be a little off putting to a lot of couples and ladies. Our opinion some may disagree."

There are other ways to balance this though. Simply limiting the number of spaces for guys based on how many single girls and couples are expected. It's still not equality though, so people will still be up in arms about this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now I feel better, yes the club is a wonderful place to meet people. The atmosphere is filled with people with filthy minds and if you play your cards right, you might get lucky. I however, prefer parties to clubs. Will explain later. "

You may feel better, but it's still the same rant.

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

I love clubs for the social side of things - but I've had the most mind blowing sex at 1 - 1 hotel meets!

Therefore I vote for both!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"

There are other ways to balance this though. Simply limiting the number of spaces for guys based on how many single girls and couples are expected. It's still not equality though, so people will still be up in arms about this."

That is far worse than charging extra, what happens if the guy has travelled 20 or 30 miles to the club only to be told there are too many guys in there.

How would the club know how many people are going to turn up one afternoon or evening? Sometimes you go in and there are half a dozen in the club the next time on the same day there could be 50 in.

In a similar manner one day the club could be full half an hour after the doors open the next it could be half empty until an hour or two before closing.

Charging men extra may not be perfect but neither is limiting by quota.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Now I feel better, yes the club is a wonderful place to meet people. The atmosphere is filled with people with filthy minds and if you play your cards right, you might get lucky. I however, prefer parties to clubs. Will explain later. "

but you just because as hypocritical as those you decided to slate.... because you are not above anyone to say what comparisons people should or shouldn't make....

just because its not the comparison you would make it does not make it any less valid....

i may be lucky in the fact that the clubs i go to and what i am charged for going as a single man and what couples are charged are not that far apart.... but like i said i don't engage in the politics of envy!

so if i am spending x amount on a saturday... it doesn't matter what i did to get to that amount... i spent x!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yep if someone wants to pay. Refuse to pay extra because I'm a male. "

Fair point, but in most venues you get to bring your drinks along. So you get to go out, meet people who in general are more friendly than in a vanilla venue, and your chance of having some sexy fun is pretty good! Most nights out are actually more expensive overall. (And even some vanilla venues charge men more?!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I stated this yesterday on a similar argument about clubs prices for guys. My husband and myself and our regular male playmate attended Eurekas as a trio. My husband paid £30 for me and him. Our friend paid £30 for himself. Did our friend get upset about how much he was paying? Of course not - he was putting his hand in his pocket for the same flipping amount of money that my husband was. Was he our friend pissed off that I didn't put my hand in my pocket? Oh pleeeese! The same guy paid more or less the same amount of money when he took me on my own to BGHS, so in all honesty what he paid was no difference as a single, a trio or as a couple.

Mrs

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

I went to the barbers and paid £10 for my haircut and was happy paying that. Then I found out they do pensioners for a fiver. I've boycotted them now, and have chip on my shoulder and shaggy hair

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Your missing the point. The cost is not an issue. It equality that's the issue. £50 / £100 / £1000 not an issue. Why men are not treated or charged the same as women for the same thing.Maybe supermarkets should has male and female pricings for their products.

Simple case of supply and demand if there were more single gents than couples and single ladies then it would be a very male dominated atmosphere and that would be a little off putting to a lot of couples and ladies. Our opinion some may disagree.

There are other ways to balance this though. Simply limiting the number of spaces for guys based on how many single girls and couples are expected. It's still not equality though, so people will still be up in arms about this."

When we've had house parties, because we don't charge, we have to restrict numbers of guys in other ways. It's not possible to give women, men and couples all equal chances to come to our parties because then we'd be swamped with guys and nobody else would come. So I choose the guys I want to come. I've no doubt there are many guys who would much prefer to pay to guarantee them a place at a party, than hope to be selected. Arguably subsidising ladies is a much fairer system than selecting which guys can attend. But as I said yesterday, equal opportunities within the swing scene is unrealistic.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mix it - homes or clubs mostly -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I went to the barbers and paid £10 for my haircut and was happy paying that. Then I found out they do pensioners for a fiver. I've boycotted them now, and have chip on my shoulder and shaggy hair

MrB"

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By *haznsteCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

We like clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we love going to a club and are very fortunate to live very close to one.

like others have said before - there is no pressure to play but always a good night to be had x

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

"

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post? "

I put my reaction somewhere else. But essentially i don't feel equal opportunities between men and women is practical on the swing scene. As someone who has organised parties (free parties) it is impossible to treat men, women and couples identically and fairly when compiling a guest list. Price is one of the ways to control male numbers, but if not controlled with price, then other methods are resorted to which are arguably equally as unfair. There will be many men who will prefer to pay a little more as it guarantees their entry. Other men will not be prepared to pay more, either because they can't afford it, or because they get invited to free parties like ours, or that man wants to make a political stand against sexual inequality and discrimination. We all have free choice.

Mrs

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post? "

I think the bulk of the forumites are busy meeting each other elsewhere, rather than discussing the merits of visiting swingers' clubs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I only ever meet at clubs now. I dont accommodate and wont go visiting round a strangers house x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post? "

* I believe some people have responded in some way.

* The thread was about people's preferences with clubs, not pricing. So it's been hijacked by those determined to spoil fun for others.

* These arguments are going round in circles. And this topic is becoming one of those controversial ones, like cheaters/barebacking/bisexual men. Which means people are getting inflamed and most people will step away from it, and you know, concentrate on enjoying fab.

* Yes, I've got mixed feelings about the unequal pricing structure. But I haven't seen any viable alternatives so far. Other than strawman argument and other logical fallacies.

* As for equality and discrimination? Yeah, that's never going to work with the swinging scene, it's an ugly and uncomfortable truth, but that's the nature of people. Plus people referring to equality maybe need a better understanding of the Equality Act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post?

* I believe some people have responded in some way.

* The thread was about people's preferences with clubs, not pricing. So it's been hijacked by those determined to spoil fun for others.

* These arguments are going round in circles. And this topic is becoming one of those controversial ones, like cheaters/barebacking/bisexual men. Which means people are getting inflamed and most people will step away from it, and you know, concentrate on enjoying fab.

* Yes, I've got mixed feelings about the unequal pricing structure. But I haven't seen any viable alternatives so far. Other than strawman argument and other logical fallacies.

* As for equality and discrimination? Yeah, that's never going to work with the swinging scene, it's an ugly and uncomfortable truth, but that's the nature of people. Plus people referring to equality maybe need a better understanding of the Equality Act."

Well said

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Lovely lovely thread. How can I pass by without chipping in a word.

First of all I find it absolutely appalling that a great bunch of people seem to be ganging up against the one guy who had the balls to express something against going to a club.

It's not as if he lied or was disrespectful or anything like that. It is a FACT that single guys pay MORE than any other kind of swingers to get into a swinging club.

It is a FACT that couples ( 2 X human beings) pay LESS than a single guy.

When human beings try to shout down speakers of the truth, I wonder where we are headed.

If you enjoy the club scene, just state your case and sing the praises of clubs. If he does not like it, he can state why he does not. It is no one's place to ask him how much he spends on a night out on with mates or at the pictures etc. The 2 are not the same.

You may be on pop star wages and therefore see £50 entry fee as " worth it". Others may see even £5 as a kick in the teeth because guess what; they might be on £35 a week.

Better still, the whole inequality of the situation is what may not sit well with someone and nothing to do with what is actually charged at the door.

. Is it not funny that ZERO forumites could react to above post? "

Some of us did....

I personally put it under your 2nd post in this thread....

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By *unandbuckCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Anyway, back on track track.

We love clubs, we've had amazing times in them together, with other couples, single guys and single ladies.

They are a hotbed of relaxed flirting and ultra horny fun and memories.

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By *heeseandWineCouple
over a year ago

Reading and Southampton


"Anyway, back on track track.

We love clubs, we've had amazing times in them together, with other couples, single guys and single ladies.

They are a hotbed of relaxed flirting and ultra horny fun and memories."

We totally agree and love clubs for the same reasons too

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"Now I feel better, yes the club is a wonderful place to meet people. The atmosphere is filled with people with filthy minds and if you play your cards right, you might get lucky. I however, prefer parties to clubs. Will explain later.

but you just because as hypocritical as those you decided to slate.... because you are not above anyone to say what comparisons people should or shouldn't make....

just because its not the comparison you would make it does not make it any less valid....

i may be lucky in the fact that the clubs i go to and what i am charged for going as a single man and what couples are charged are not that far apart.... but like i said i don't engage in the politics of envy!

so if i am spending x amount on a saturday... it doesn't matter what i did to get to that amount... i spent x!

"

First of all, " lucky" in my post has got nothing to do with finding a club that charges or does not charge a certain amount. If you read closely, you will find what I meant. I know you are capable of that.

Secondly, politics of envy!? Who is envying who in this case?

Nobody referred to what you did to earn whatever so looks like you created your own post in your mind and reacted to it.

You called me a hypocrite???? Do you even comprehend the word? I won't react to that or else we will be here all day and night.

Club or not was the question. 2 or 3 posts said yay because of X y and z. The next post said nay because of X reasons. There follows a host of posts shouting this post down.

If you read, again closely, you will notice that all my post said was " live and let live". If mr X loves clubs, let him carry on. If mr y does not love clubs, let him be.

Now what is HARD about that? If you also do not get that, well, too bad.

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By *G CoupleCouple
over a year ago

kent

Tried a club many moons ago but sadly not for us.

Like the no hassel thing with no pressure which is why we have turned to dogging.

Not far off being in a club but with a lot more freedom

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby


"Tried a club many moons ago but sadly not for us.

Like the no hassel thing with no pressure which is why we have turned to dogging.

Not far off being in a club but with a lot more freedom "

Never tried dogging it's always seemed a bit seedy for us but never say never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We prefer to go to clubs, there's no pressure to play with anyone, great place to meet and get to know someone, love to boogie flirt and have a drink in a relaxing environment with people we know, no awkward first meets that don't lead to anything other than coming home seeing you have been blocked,

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By *ristolcreamxxxMan
over a year ago

brisol

I like clubs I think it's more relaxed and everyone knows why your there plus you can walk away if you don't fancy someone and the other way round as well without causing offence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We prefer clubs certainly for the first meets...if there's no chemistry and attraction it's might not be a wasted night for all involved...nothing worse than getting hopes up and then it falling flat at the last hurdle..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never done a club, not sure I would either seems a bit daunting for me

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By *londie8399Couple
over a year ago

blackpool

We prefer clubs laid back and you get a bettet feel for couples or singles then messaging on fab

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By *ittenbutnotshyCouple
over a year ago

North Manchester


"Just trying to gauge what sort of percentage of swingers prefer swinging at clubs or out of the club scene?"

I prefer clubs, Mrs hotels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never done a club, not sure I would either seems a bit daunting for me "

I'm sure you would enjoy the right club. Relaxed no pressure atmosphere.

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By *irestorm 500Couple
over a year ago

coventry


"I like clubs I think it's more relaxed and everyone knows why your there plus you can walk away if you don't fancy someone and the other way round as well without causing offence."

Agree ..easier for us than on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Current clubs are very monosyllabic i.e they appeal to people who like precisely what they have to offer. When someone talks about "the club scene" we know exactly what they mean. What that is is fun, if you're in the mood. But it can rely alot on who turns up and be a bit samey after a while. Things like clothes off after a certain time are also like marmite.

We'd go to our local club every month if its bar was open to the public, just to meet people. But to pay for baby sitters and £25 entry before even buying a drink is a bit steep just to take a peek... and we're not in the mood to actually club month after month.

Private play affords more seductive and sensual exploration, more intimacy, and more intensity. Clubs are jolly bouncey things. It's a bit like Last Tango in Paris vs Benny Hill.

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By *eal Deal PartiesWoman
over a year ago

x

Parties ??

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By *celotMan
over a year ago

North East

Just looking through the thread and seeing all of your thoughts on the subject, especially regarding the cost equality issue.

Well, I'm pretty sure the male to female ratio on fab isn't a 50/50 split, so I could hardly expect clubs and events to be a 50/50 split either.

Equality is one thing but providing an experience for those that go to these events are another. That's probably why the prices vary, to balance the male to female ratio I assume and ultimately prevent a sausage fest crisis?

It seems to work either way and I'd have no problem with paying a little extra, it is what it is.

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Clubs for me, it's better, I like seeing people dressed up and looking hot

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would love to go to a club but my fuckbuddy isn't keen. But she is happy for me to go alone. Do single men have any fun in clubs or do ladies and couples rule the roost??

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By *ilthyDebaucheryWoman
over a year ago

Oswestry

I prefer clubs to meet people but saying that we've usually chatted extensively to a couple and arranged to meet them there

The theory being more relaxed atmosphere and easy to move from socialising to play On the other hand if there's no spark you're already in a club so can have a great night whether you meet another couple there or just enjoy the night out

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By *VK_Rugby OP   Couple
over a year ago

Rugby


"

The theory being more relaxed atmosphere and easy to move from socialising to play On the other hand if there's no spark you're already in a club so can have a great night whether you meet another couple there or just enjoy the night out"

That is exactly the reason we mainly stick to clubs how many times have you meet a couple claiming to be in their 40s and they are clearly 20 years older than their profile says and the pics they have sent, it's much easier to make your excuses and still have a good night in a sexy atmosphere if your in a club.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Would love to go to a club but my fuckbuddy isn't keen. But she is happy for me to go alone. Do single men have any fun in clubs or do ladies and couples rule the roost??"

Look down the Club reviews, paying attention to the single guys, and how they got on, most of the time they will have had a great time at a 'Greedy Girl' event, when single guys are actively encouraged. Apart from that, you will need to be a 'regular' at your preferred club, and have made several visits so that women and couples know you're not just looking for a quick 'unload'

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By *bsolute LibertinesCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

It depends on the weather. Must be getting old x

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By *lacksausageMan
over a year ago

Birmingham Airport


"I prefer clubs to meet people but saying that we've usually chatted extensively to a couple and arranged to meet them there

The theory being more relaxed atmosphere and easy to move from socialising to play On the other hand if there's no spark you're already in a club so can have a great night whether you meet another couple there or just enjoy the night out"

Or probably move to the next victim.

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