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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? " We just don't play in this type of scenario. Simple. | |||
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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? " never ever would we consider this and why would you want your partner go with someone they don't find attractive for your personal gain? That's just wrong and disrespectful of your partner.*Mr | |||
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"I think your right it's just hard to find the perfect mutual match I guess " Hard is an understatement | |||
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"I think your right it's just hard to find the perfect mutual match I guess Hard is an understatement " I feel like I should be insulted | |||
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"I think your right it's just hard to find the perfect mutual match I guess Hard is an understatement I feel like I should be insulted " Eh? Tis a compliment! - you two are like a needle in a haystack. | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. " But you're a woman so you think men should get what they are given and be grateful for it? | |||
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"I think your right it's just hard to find the perfect mutual match I guess Hard is an understatement I feel like I should be insulted Eh? Tis a compliment! - you two are like a needle in a haystack." Ditto. | |||
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"Not so much the ugly and fat side it's usually the sexual chemistry side... Guys aren't as flirty as women and she loves to flirt and build the tension " It sounded like you meant physically hot. | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. But you're a woman so you think men should get what they are given and be grateful for it? " Where did I say that? | |||
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"The usual case is we both fancy the female but the mrs isn't attracted to the male We can't exactly say pull up a chair and watch can we.... " This made me chuckle.......... now I think you could lol | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. But you're a woman so you think men should get what they are given and be grateful for it? Where did I say that? " Just amusing that you chose to answer the question with a hypothetical! There are plenty of couples where the guy has aged better than the wife! | |||
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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? " Actually yes we did. First couple we met & my other half really fancied her, i to be honest didn't have much of an attraction for the womans bloke. However as i felt like i should break my swinging cherry (& i wanted to go in the hot tub lol) i told him that on this occasion i would take one for the team. Am i glad i did? Hell yes, we had some great sex. Sadly the wife may well have sold herself at the social but she was actually a crap shag. Karma is great, Mrs WD40 | |||
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"Obviously there has to be some sexual attraction it's. It all about looks but if you genuinely do t fancy the other person would you still participate so your partner could enjoy themselves? " Simple answer no ..it's about both of you enjoying it as a couple. | |||
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"I think in every full swap situation, one half of a couple will be less enthusiastic than the other." I wouldn't agree with every situation, but yeah, it's much more common than people would care to admit. | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. But you're a woman so you think men should get what they are given and be grateful for it? Where did I say that? Just amusing that you chose to answer the question with a hypothetical! There are plenty of couples where the guy has aged better than the wife! " That doesn't tally with what you said though. | |||
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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? never ever would we consider this and why would you want your partner go with someone they don't find attractive for your personal gain? That's just wrong and disrespectful of your partner.*Mr " | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. But you're a woman so you think men should get what they are given and be grateful for it? Where did I say that? Just amusing that you chose to answer the question with a hypothetical! There are plenty of couples where the guy has aged better than the wife! That doesn't tally with what you said though. " It was a question not a statement | |||
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"I think in every full swap situation, one half of a couple will be less enthusiastic than the other. I wouldn't agree with every situation, but yeah, it's much more common than people would care to admit. " I think it might be more common too. Its partly why we have so few meets with couples. We both need to be keen also if we detect the slightest reluctance in either partner of the other couple we step away. Neither of us wants to be the one tolerated so someone's partner can have sex | |||
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"Both fit and in thier early 30's! give them another 20 years and then see what they think " | |||
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"This! All the time it's the women that's smoking hot and the male is ok ish. Unless the women wants to meet alone I have to sadly turn them down " It's not. You just have a subconscious rounding down with men. People project the worst onto men. This is one of the reason that men recieve longer jail time than women for the exact same crime. Negative bias. Women are so sheep like, even on the bell curve they cluster. | |||
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"If I were a man I would never expect my partner to fuck an ugly, old, fat man just so I could fuck the hot wife. " But what if HE is also an ugly fat old man? Surly the wife fucks him all the time, what's the difference? Hahah | |||
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"As the ugly half of a couple it's very difficult reading threads like this ,,,,, yes I know we shouldn't go to clubs and try and enjoy ourselves but even us uglies like a bit of kinkiness in our lives " Is that why there's not one pic of you on profile? never understand couples profiles that only have the lady on them, really stupid. | |||
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"As the ugly half of a couple it's very difficult reading threads like this ,,,,, yes I know we shouldn't go to clubs and try and enjoy ourselves but even us uglies like a bit of kinkiness in our lives Is that why there's not one pic of you on profile? never understand couples profiles that only have the lady on them, really stupid." In a nutshell yes ,,,,, but not all of us are on here looking for meets , I wouldn't be so stupid to try and put my ugly fat body out there to be ridiculed | |||
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"As the ugly half of a couple it's very difficult reading threads like this ,,,,, yes I know we shouldn't go to clubs and try and enjoy ourselves but even us uglies like a bit of kinkiness in our lives Is that why there's not one pic of you on profile? never understand couples profiles that only have the lady on them, really stupid." Don't think he came looking for profile criticism. | |||
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"Only every single time we go to a swingers club" $avage! | |||
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"As the ugly half of a couple it's very difficult reading threads like this ,,,,, yes I know we shouldn't go to clubs and try and enjoy ourselves but even us uglies like a bit of kinkiness in our lives Is that why there's not one pic of you on profile? never understand couples profiles that only have the lady on them, really stupid." Peoples choice up to the individual. neither do we have the man on view but if we make a connection and are looking to meet we then send pics .. | |||
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"As the ugly half of a couple it's very difficult reading threads like this ,,,,, yes I know we shouldn't go to clubs and try and enjoy ourselves but even us uglies like a bit of kinkiness in our lives Is that why there's not one pic of you on profile? never understand couples profiles that only have the lady on them, really stupid. Peoples choice up to the individual. neither do we have the man on view but if we make a connection and are looking to meet we then send pics .." We did arrange a hotel meet with a single guy who looked great on here but when he turned up I didn't really fancy him but went through with it ... after when I told Inked he was real upset that I never told him as he would have asked him to go Wouldn't happen now tho | |||
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"We believe it is close to impossible to find a couple where I fancy him and he fanicies me, and our partners miraculously fancy each other just as much. Also we don't think we could find a couple who are mutually interested in us, where I desire the man as much as some of the single men we play with. Whereas neither of us will fuck someone if the thought of that turns our stomach, we are fundamentally on the swing scene to have fun. I get kicks out of my husband having a good time with a sexy lady, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I will (within reason) have some fun with a man, whom I wouldn't otherwise play with, in order for that to be achieved. If I were to only play with men I fancied, then it is likely we would only be persuing single men. If we were lucky enough to find a couple where I fancied the man, experience has told us that they would be less interested in us. Most of the time it works well is playing with single men of my choice. But occasionally my husband likes to have fun too, so I will make that happen. Certainly some of the most fun and erotic times we have had, would not have happened if neither of us had been willing to compromise, and although I have fucked men I don't fancy, I have never fucked someone and not had a great time. Mrs" Very interesting. Without specific reference to yourself, do you think part of the reason the four way attraction can be so hard is that within couples one of them has a much higher opinion of their own partner than the average member of the rest of the world? | |||
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"We believe it is close to impossible to find a couple where I fancy him and he fanicies me, and our partners miraculously fancy each other just as much. Also we don't think we could find a couple who are mutually interested in us, where I desire the man as much as some of the single men we play with. Whereas neither of us will fuck someone if the thought of that turns our stomach, we are fundamentally on the swing scene to have fun. I get kicks out of my husband having a good time with a sexy lady, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I will (within reason) have some fun with a man, whom I wouldn't otherwise play with, in order for that to be achieved. If I were to only play with men I fancied, then it is likely we would only be persuing single men. If we were lucky enough to find a couple where I fancied the man, experience has told us that they would be less interested in us. Most of the time it works well is playing with single men of my choice. But occasionally my husband likes to have fun too, so I will make that happen. Certainly some of the most fun and erotic times we have had, would not have happened if neither of us had been willing to compromise, and although I have fucked men I don't fancy, I have never fucked someone and not had a great time. Mrs Very interesting. Without specific reference to yourself, do you think part of the reason the four way attraction can be so hard is that within couples one of them has a much higher opinion of their own partner than the average member of the rest of the world? " No I don't think that's something I've particularly noticed. Admittedly we have never actively looked for couples, and the view I expressed above comes from getting to know couples at parties. Most of the time, i see a couple where the lady is stunning, and the man is fine, but not as attractive as the single men we play with. | |||
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"We believe it is close to impossible to find a couple where I fancy him and he fanicies me, and our partners miraculously fancy each other just as much. Also we don't think we could find a couple who are mutually interested in us, where I desire the man as much as some of the single men we play with. Whereas neither of us will fuck someone if the thought of that turns our stomach, we are fundamentally on the swing scene to have fun. I get kicks out of my husband having a good time with a sexy lady, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I will (within reason) have some fun with a man, whom I wouldn't otherwise play with, in order for that to be achieved. If I were to only play with men I fancied, then it is likely we would only be persuing single men. If we were lucky enough to find a couple where I fancied the man, experience has told us that they would be less interested in us. Most of the time it works well is playing with single men of my choice. But occasionally my husband likes to have fun too, so I will make that happen. Certainly some of the most fun and erotic times we have had, would not have happened if neither of us had been willing to compromise, and although I have fucked men I don't fancy, I have never fucked someone and not had a great time. Mrs Very interesting. Without specific reference to yourself, do you think part of the reason the four way attraction can be so hard is that within couples one of them has a much higher opinion of their own partner than the average member of the rest of the world? No I don't think that's something I've particularly noticed. Admittedly we have never actively looked for couples, and the view I expressed above comes from getting to know couples at parties. Most of the time, i see a couple where the lady is stunning, and the man is fine, but not as attractive as the single men we play with. " That make sense. The basic law of averages would ensure that's the case! We don't meet singletons so i believe what i said exists, but it's more noticable when your sample only includes couples. | |||
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"We believe it is close to impossible to find a couple where I fancy him and he fanicies me, and our partners miraculously fancy each other just as much. Also we don't think we could find a couple who are mutually interested in us, where I desire the man as much as some of the single men we play with. Whereas neither of us will fuck someone if the thought of that turns our stomach, we are fundamentally on the swing scene to have fun. I get kicks out of my husband having a good time with a sexy lady, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I will (within reason) have some fun with a man, whom I wouldn't otherwise play with, in order for that to be achieved. If I were to only play with men I fancied, then it is likely we would only be persuing single men. If we were lucky enough to find a couple where I fancied the man, experience has told us that they would be less interested in us. Most of the time it works well is playing with single men of my choice. But occasionally my husband likes to have fun too, so I will make that happen. Certainly some of the most fun and erotic times we have had, would not have happened if neither of us had been willing to compromise, and although I have fucked men I don't fancy, I have never fucked someone and not had a great time. Mrs Very interesting. Without specific reference to yourself, do you think part of the reason the four way attraction can be so hard is that within couples one of them has a much higher opinion of their own partner than the average member of the rest of the world? No I don't think that's something I've particularly noticed. Admittedly we have never actively looked for couples, and the view I expressed above comes from getting to know couples at parties. Most of the time, i see a couple where the lady is stunning, and the man is fine, but not as attractive as the single men we play with. That make sense. The basic law of averages would ensure that's the case! We don't meet singletons so i believe what i said exists, but it's more noticable when your sample only includes couples. " I think a lot of the problem is age. Women seem to age better than men, or can sex themselves up easier. We have no trouble attracting couples in their late forties and above. But when looking for single men we can bring the age down and get a man before aging process has really set in. A man in his thirties won't mind an older woman, but much harder the other way round. Mrs | |||
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"We believe it is close to impossible to find a couple where I fancy him and he fanicies me, and our partners miraculously fancy each other just as much. Also we don't think we could find a couple who are mutually interested in us, where I desire the man as much as some of the single men we play with. Whereas neither of us will fuck someone if the thought of that turns our stomach, we are fundamentally on the swing scene to have fun. I get kicks out of my husband having a good time with a sexy lady, and I'm not ashamed to admit that I will (within reason) have some fun with a man, whom I wouldn't otherwise play with, in order for that to be achieved. If I were to only play with men I fancied, then it is likely we would only be persuing single men. If we were lucky enough to find a couple where I fancied the man, experience has told us that they would be less interested in us. Most of the time it works well is playing with single men of my choice. But occasionally my husband likes to have fun too, so I will make that happen. Certainly some of the most fun and erotic times we have had, would not have happened if neither of us had been willing to compromise, and although I have fucked men I don't fancy, I have never fucked someone and not had a great time. Mrs Very interesting. Without specific reference to yourself, do you think part of the reason the four way attraction can be so hard is that within couples one of them has a much higher opinion of their own partner than the average member of the rest of the world? No I don't think that's something I've particularly noticed. Admittedly we have never actively looked for couples, and the view I expressed above comes from getting to know couples at parties. Most of the time, i see a couple where the lady is stunning, and the man is fine, but not as attractive as the single men we play with. That make sense. The basic law of averages would ensure that's the case! We don't meet singletons so i believe what i said exists, but it's more noticable when your sample only includes couples. I think a lot of the problem is age. Women seem to age better than men, or can sex themselves up easier. We have no trouble attracting couples in their late forties and above. But when looking for single men we can bring the age down and get a man before aging process has really set in. A man in his thirties won't mind an older woman, but much harder the other way round. Mrs" There's also a psychology difference, the average woman is fussier than the average man. Our brains developed long before condoms so on some level, the question we ask ourselves is 'do i want to mate with this person'. In history there have been few examples of when a man would answer no to that question, yet a lot of reasons why a woman would have 'no' as the default answer. So you think women age better than men. Perhaps, but i think we see women as having aged better or looking better when sexed up but that's what our brains are wired to see. Objectively i think men age way better than women on average. | |||
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"In simple terms. If "hotness" is measured on a scale of one to ten women can easily attract men two or more points higher than themselves. Single men therefore know they have to score high to be successful and anyway for some the quality of their couplings is less important than the quantity. Therefore females can always access good quality men and male partners are judged more harshly than female ones. " Totally agree, but even worse I'd say that the average female of the couple rates her own partner 1-2 points higher than the rest of the world does and therefore her baseline is inflated. | |||
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"An interesting thread. The search for the ideal couple seems to be a red herring informed by the romantic myth of an especially compatible foursome. A bit silly really. Maybe some of us will be lucky. But in lieu of that it makes sense to also try playing separately as in a community of 8 couples none may want to swap together but all may find play mates within that 8 by playing separately " Well that's the other way we got round the problem. Haven't done it for a while, but we used to invite a group of likeminded people round for a house party and then hope that people would choose their own partners, instead of sticking strictly to a couple swap. Mrs | |||
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"An interesting thread. The search for the ideal couple seems to be a red herring informed by the romantic myth of an especially compatible foursome. A bit silly really. Maybe some of us will be lucky. But in lieu of that it makes sense to also try playing separately as in a community of 8 couples none may want to swap together but all may find play mates within that 8 by playing separately Well that's the other way we got round the problem. Haven't done it for a while, but we used to invite a group of likeminded people round for a house party and then hope that people would choose their own partners, instead of sticking strictly to a couple swap. Mrs" This would be something that social media would excel in. An "I'd fuck you" flag for each half of a couple to attribute to the half of another couple. Then when the software sees a certain group of couples would all like to fuck each other it alerts you all so you can arrange a party. This is the kind of thing web 2.0 was invented for | |||
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"An interesting thread. The search for the ideal couple seems to be a red herring informed by the romantic myth of an especially compatible foursome. A bit silly really. Maybe some of us will be lucky. But in lieu of that it makes sense to also try playing separately as in a community of 8 couples none may want to swap together but all may find play mates within that 8 by playing separately Well that's the other way we got round the problem. Haven't done it for a while, but we used to invite a group of likeminded people round for a house party and then hope that people would choose their own partners, instead of sticking strictly to a couple swap. Mrs This would be something that social media would excel in. An "I'd fuck you" flag for each half of a couple to attribute to the half of another couple. Then when the software sees a certain group of couples would all like to fuck each other it alerts you all so you can arrange a party. This is the kind of thing web 2.0 was invented for " I like your thinking | |||
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"Yep; been there, done it in the past; not doing it anymore because it is soul-destroying - Mrs. J -" Appreciate your honesty. Like I said earlier a lot of people have probably done it but won't admit to it. We've been close. | |||
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"A lot of the discussion has been about looks but i don't think it's taking on for the team if the not-so-great-looking person (s) has another quality that compensates. Personally I'd rather fuck a 6 who was into it than a 9 who lay there like a fish out of water.* Admittedly, before i was married i would have gone for the 9 though. Mr * terms & conditions apply. Must have teeth, good hygiene and no beard. " Good point. We have seen beautiful people in clubs, then seen them later in a playroom and they were as dull as dishwater. Ps 'must have teeth' is there a minimum number, or is just plural ok? | |||
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"A lot of the discussion has been about looks but i don't think it's taking on for the team if the not-so-great-looking person (s) has another quality that compensates. Personally I'd rather fuck a 6 who was into it than a 9 who lay there like a fish out of water.* Admittedly, before i was married i would have gone for the 9 though. Mr * terms & conditions apply. Must have teeth, good hygiene and no beard. Good point. We have seen beautiful people in clubs, then seen them later in a playroom and they were as dull as dishwater. Ps 'must have teeth' is there a minimum number, or is just plural ok? " We need to see a full dental history for a full swap. I'm not pretending that i want to fuck unattractive women, but the ideal swap for us is with an attractive couple, that have some skill and enthusiasm in bed and that we would also choose to spend time socially with. | |||
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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? " We find it easier to wear bags over our heads, in case theirs spit, that way no one gets upset | |||
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" Good point. We have seen beautiful people in clubs, then seen them later in a playroom and they were as dull as dishwater. Ps 'must have teeth' is there a minimum number, or is just plural ok? We need to see a full dental history for a full swap. I'm not pretending that i want to fuck unattractive women, but the ideal swap for us is with an attractive couple, that have some skill and enthusiasm in bed and that we would also choose to spend time socially with." I have a full set of teeth, I just leave them in a jar next to the bed when playing Yes, getting on socially, then going to play, things normally work well like that for us too. Obviously within limits, we are nice people and have plenty of fun meets, but the 25yo super hot couple aren't going to be leaping on us just because we are fun to be around... | |||
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"Has anyone ever been in a situation where you meet a couple one one half is smoking hot and the other not so... But either you or your partner really wants to swap knowing your not really feeling your part of the swap? We find it easier to wear bags over our heads, in case theirs spit, that way no one gets upset " Health and Safety tip: Before use, cut hole in bag for breathing We cut holes for vision too - Mrs. J - | |||
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