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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. " What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " That's called adultery isn't it? Yep, you can deffo get devorced for that. | |||
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"Vowels?" I'll have a consonant please Carol. | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " Another vowel for me please | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" " Haha well done | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" " | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " That's divorce. Not annulment | |||
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"Vowels?" To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat. | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " So you don't agree with it as it seems you are looking to troll (in my eyes) yet you are also looking for couples, I can see a bit of hypocrisy to this thread | |||
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"Registry office." Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " | |||
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"Registry office. Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too " I'll have an E please Bob! | |||
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"Registry office. Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too I'll have an E please Bob! " I'd rather give you the 'D' Yes, I went there.... | |||
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"Registry office. Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too I'll have an E please Bob! I'd rather give you the 'D' Yes, I went there.... " Hahaha | |||
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"I dont remember using the f word during my wedding " I only started using it after. | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating." What's her profile | |||
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"Your profile is lovely and appeals to married couples nd woman " Thank you your profile is nice too. I like it. X | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating. What's her profile " I'm not saying and not getting involved as he's a good guy and when karma opens a can of wup ass in her I will be ok with my clear mind as I didn't meet her when she asked me too. it's bad enough knowing what she's doing so I'm not getting involved at all. | |||
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"It didn't say in our marriage vows that we wouldn't have sex with anyone else. Mrs" Well I didn't interpret our vows like that. 'Forsaking all others I thought meant putting each other before others', so obviously cheating would be breaking our vows. | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " would those vowels be the same ones I learned at school? a,e,i,o and u ? | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating. What's her profile I'm not saying and not getting involved as he's a good guy and when karma opens a can of wup ass in her I will be ok with my clear mind as I didn't meet her when she asked me too. it's bad enough knowing what she's doing so I'm not getting involved at all." | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. " Again not everyone publicly vows to be just for each other I attended a wedding of two swinging friends and they had lines in their vows about swinging You can actually swing while making a commitment to the other person not that you clearly understand that | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. " Being married makes things so much easier when you have kids. Hubby and I were happy together not being married. We're happy together being married and doing what we do. I'm not one for over analysing and don't care what others think about married people having sex with others. We don't have a problem with it. | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " We didn't make any vows to keep ourselves only for each other etc. You must be watching too many phoney weddings on TV | |||
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"Agree with another poster...a couple fucking with each other's full knowledge is not cheating...it is fun!!!! " | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " Vowels or vows? | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. " That's not really what you asked originally. | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. " They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them. | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE " Oh it most certainly does. Hope you bought cake too Op | |||
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"Well we will have a good time on our way to hell Mrs2 " | |||
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"Fucking love breaking them all. Rules are made to be broken. " fair enough | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. That's not really what you asked originally. " That's what I originally meant. Due to the confusion some are having to grasp it I thought I should clarify myself. | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them." Exactly. We're a unit, a 2 person army against the rest of this messed up world. Yes, we fuck others, but if anybody tries to get between us... | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE " Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. That's not really what you asked originally. That's what I originally meant. Due to the confusion some are having to grasp it I thought I should clarify myself. " Communication works both ways fella | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite " Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself? | |||
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"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners. I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them. Exactly. We're a unit, a 2 person army against the rest of this messed up world. Yes, we fuck others, but if anybody tries to get between us... " I think this is what a lot of people fail to understand. I also think that often sex is confused with love. | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself? " You started the thread with the purpose of trolling, and yes I have read the thread, have you? Oh wait, shit you started it......why are you here if you even had to start a thread to question it all? Never mind meet couples, your starting to look like a bit of an idiot in my opinion | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do" Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do" To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc. Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising" How does one even speak without vowels? | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc. Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. " People have responded with well thought out and calm answers. But you're only responding to the posts attacking you. I may be unfair with this, but that does suggest an agenda. | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc. Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. " There are no set rules. Couple decide what they want to do without the need for anyone telling them what they should do or how people interpret their marriage vows. As I say, your opening post is not unusual but always makes me wonder why people who think that way are on here | |||
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"Vowels?" Haha yeah I know, marriages end because of bad grammar, didn't you know that? Pmsl | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. " Can I ask didn't understand what? | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc. Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. " There's only two rules that apply to everyone in our opinion. Respect. Consent. | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. Can I ask didn't understand what?" We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people. | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. Can I ask didn't understand what? We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people. " Ah right, I meant more the concept of it and why couples like to swing more then the mechanics of it. We were in our 40's before we started on sites like these and didn't know all the terms either | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. Can I ask didn't understand what? We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people. Ah right, I meant more the concept of it and why couples like to swing more then the mechanics of it. We were in our 40's before we started on sites like these and didn't know all the terms either " Yes, sorry, it's that time of the day where my brain is slowing down. I guess we had a fantasy view of it and were actually quite surprised by the amount of couples in the scene. We were unicorn hunters who quickly adapted. | |||
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" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow. Look ‘I, (name), take you, (name) to be my wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward; for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God’s holy law. In the presence of God I make this vow.’ So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages. Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it. | |||
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" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow. Look ‘I, (name), take you, (name) to be my wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward; for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God’s holy law. In the presence of God I make this vow.’ So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages. Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it. " You missed out this bit: "N, will you take N to be your wife? Will you love her, comfort her, honour and protect her, and, forsaking all others, be faithful to her as long as you both shall live?" | |||
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"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! " I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better. | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " Damn I wanted to say this I hate grammar police but even I am having an anxiety attack reading this thread x | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" " Hehe you just won the Internet for today | |||
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"Registry office. Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too I'll have an E please Bob! " No drugs on the premises please .... | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " Nope, lots of love and cherishing, forsaking all others, being true to one another! Nothing about fucking other people whith your partners consent. Not gonna go into a 50 page argument lol but there's a huge difference between swinging and cheating. | |||
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"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better. " Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity. If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO. | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do" | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " I only kept my consonants. I blame Carol Vorderman. That must be where it all went wrong. | |||
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"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! " I doubt it especially if they were aware and were present when the sex took place between their partner and someone else. I suppose they could say they were coerced into swinging which could maybe be grounds under unreasonable behaviour? I'll have to ask a judge | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " We had a civil service, so no, we didn't. | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" " Wonderfully put | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself? You started the thread with the purpose of trolling, and yes I have read the thread, have you? Oh wait, shit you started it......why are you here if you even had to start a thread to question it all? Never mind meet couples, your starting to look like a bit of an idiot in my opinion " He isn't TROLLING at all. He asked a question and just because you can't answer or won't answer your calling him an idiot . You are the TROLL | |||
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"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them. I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE " You are right there. People can put what they want in their vows now and why is it bothering you? | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating." How do you know for sure that he doesn't know? He could be cuckold or she could be taking pics to share when he gets home. | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " Put U and I together | |||
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" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow. Look ‘I, (name), take you, (name) to be my wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward; for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God’s holy law. In the presence of God I make this vow.’ So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages. Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it. You missed out this bit: "N, will you take N to be your wife? Will you love her, comfort her, honour and protect her, and, forsaking all others, be faithful to her as long as you both shall live?"" OP I think you got maybe 4 or 5 intelligent answers. It's a good question. Weird how so many couldn't understand. | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating." Do you feel good about slut shaking her on a forum thread that she doesn't know about? | |||
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"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc. Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. " there are rules? who wrote them? is there a handbook we have to get? nobody told us when we signed up that we have to obey any rules... | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " As far as I remember when I got married in '96 I thought the vows were 'be faithful to each other' now I ended my marriage because I fell out of love but never touched another man However I am now with someone and we are swingers .... we plan to get married and he likes to see me with another guy I'm still being faithful to him because it's with his consent and not behind his back Cheating is without your partner knowing and you don't need to be married to ge a cheat Big difference | |||
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"Vowels? To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat." That would make them vws? | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, " Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. " I don't think I do! | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. I don't think I do! " Im with nicecouple on this one . We all follow made up rules . Do you wash your dishes after dinner or buy new plates . There are lots of social rules. But i do agree religion is all made up rules that you can choose to follow or not . Religion is take it or leave it . | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, " Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " Love it | |||
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"That's the problem on here... people are consonantly judging others.... pity we couldn't all vowel to be nice " Another classic | |||
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"2nd that ....have a feckihg good time along the way .. it's a swingers site ?? Or did I log onto Nuns .com .. ? " They're the worst, so many dirty habits | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol." Xmas is about Santa, not religion | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. I don't think I do! " Ok. I do though. I've got a set of rules I try to live by that I made up or that I pinched from someone else who had made them up. | |||
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"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? " We never took any vowels. But if these were offe_ed, then I'll have an 'i', please - Mrs. J - | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion " It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ | |||
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"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better. Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity. If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO." You are one hell of a smart woman. It's funny that most people seem not to understand or are choosing to ignore the op's point. If you are a swinger, then you are going against present societal norms regarding marriage. You could say no one is getting hurt as long as there is mutual consent but there are people including psychologist and marriage counsellors who would argue otherwise. As such the high horse taken against married people swinging alone by so many often smacks of hypocrisy - as you are almost never aware of the entirety of a person's circumstance - and is what sparks such posts as the op's! | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ " Wasn't he born in September? | |||
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"Vowels? I'll have a consonant please Carol. " Nowadays you have to ask Rachel to give you one | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ Wasn't he born in September? " Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ Wasn't he born in September? Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol " It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ Wasn't he born in September? Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas It's actually traditional to celebrate Yule on December the 25th, the pagan celebration which Christianity stole in order to assist in conversion of the masses to better affect control As above, Jesus was a person, his birthday was in September. " It is actually only anglo saxon countries that have it on the 25th, rest of the world and europe have it on the 24th | |||
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"You can only get your marriage annulled if you don't consummate the marriage There are other reasons to get a marriage annulled too. Having sex with others is not one of them." This is true . And as I have said , when the sex goes out of a marriage for any reason other than ill health , it should be a reason to seek divorce . If that's what you want of course . | |||
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"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. " Surely it's not hard to remember A,E,I,O & U. Bit excessive ending a marriage on grammatical grounds lmao | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ Wasn't he born in September? Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas It's actually traditional to celebrate Yule on December the 25th, the pagan celebration which Christianity stole in order to assist in conversion of the masses to better affect control As above, Jesus was a person, his birthday was in September. It is actually only anglo saxon countries that have it on the 25th, rest of the world and europe have it on the 24th " Proving the point about fitting their story to preset traditions | |||
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"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better. Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity. If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO. You are one hell of a smart woman. It's funny that most people seem not to understand or are choosing to ignore the op's point. If you are a swinger, then you are going against present societal norms regarding marriage. You could say no one is getting hurt as long as there is mutual consent but there are people including psychologist and marriage counsellors who would argue otherwise. As such the high horse taken against married people swinging alone by so many often smacks of hypocrisy - as you are almost never aware of the entirety of a person's circumstance - and is what sparks such posts as the op's!" But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion. Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe. And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical. Either you get it or you don't. | |||
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"Vowels? To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat." That would make it a consonant wedding? | |||
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"Why is a single man so concerned with married people 's relationships on here? That's freaky " I think when people's experience of fab isn't going well, it's easy to get worked up about other people's experiences. I've been guilty of this myself in the past. | |||
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" But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion. Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe. And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical. Either you get it or you don't. " I would have liked Op to expand on whatever point was he was trying to make, and to have had a good discussion. I like challenging beliefs - and being challenged. As he chose not to, I'm going to assume he was just following the Katie Hopkins method of making friends and influencing people | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol. Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ " It was being celebrated long before somebody invented Jesus. The Christian thiefs merely took it over. It was a celebration of mid winter. When the days started to get longer again. | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol." I enjoy the time off work with my family and get them a gift | |||
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"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. I don't think I do! Ok. I do though. I've got a set of rules I try to live by that I made up or that I pinched from someone else who had made them up. " We have rules we have made up (like we only play together) but we don't follow mane stream rules | |||
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" Xmas is about Santa, not religion " And Santa only become known thanks to Coca-Cola using him in advertising | |||
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"Couples that swing and christianity dont go hand in hand lol." Love thy neighbor | |||
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"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you? There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications. Now that's cheating." did you tap it pal ? | |||
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" But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion. Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe. And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical. Either you get it or you don't. I would have liked Op to expand on whatever point was he was trying to make, and to have had a good discussion. I like challenging beliefs - and being challenged. As he chose not to, I'm going to assume he was just following the Katie Hopkins method of making friends and influencing people " Oh yes indeed, I don't want to live in an echo chamber. There's aspects of swinging I've sometimes been uncomfortable and it's been good to chat about it on here. But when somebody is deliberately trying to wind people up, I can't be bothe_ed. | |||
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