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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol" I just gave you my top tip for spotting cheats | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol" And spot the doer here. | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol" *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " I'll do what I want on this site. It's none of your business who I or anyone else meets. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... I'll do what I want on this site. It's none of your business who I or anyone else meets." Pass the married cheating b*stards my way. I find they are usually uber hot, interesting, understand my needs & are a jolly good meet. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " We understand what you are saying OP, but you will find on here that a lot of people will shout off at you. Maybe some are cheating, maybe some aren't. However the best way is to live by your standards in your life and keep to them. The world is a crazy confused place now, and the swinging world is about the same! Have fun. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... We understand what you are saying OP, but you will find on here that a lot of people will shout off at you. Maybe some are cheating, maybe some aren't. However the best way is to live by your standards in your life and keep to them. The world is a crazy confused place now, and the swinging world is about the same! Have fun." Agree... | |||
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"Whatever happened to walkers pickled onion. " Good question!! I assume pickled onion Monster Munch is still available? | |||
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"Cake and eat it more like " Cake! Now we're talking! I had this AMAAAAZZZIIINNGG Raspberry and white chocolate flapjack the other day, absolutely heavenly! Is a flapjack strictly a cake though? It's more of a tray-bake I guess.. are tray-bakes cakes? Anyone know? Anyone? | |||
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"Who cares if someone is cheating?!? I've cheated on lots of guys, and I'm sure lots have cheated on me. If I meet a guy off here and he turns out to be married, is that my issue?? NO! " It's hot to cheat the thrill of it is an addiction | |||
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"Cake and eat it more like Cake! Now we're talking! I had this AMAAAAZZZIIINNGG Raspberry and white chocolate flapjack the other day, absolutely heavenly! Is a flapjack strictly a cake though? It's more of a tray-bake I guess.. are tray-bakes cakes? Anyone know? Anyone? " I'm only interested in meets of cake is on offer! Tray bakes are cakes, if they are cake tray bakes | |||
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" I'm only interested in meets of cake is on offer! Tray bakes are cakes, if they are cake tray bakes " Yeah I can see that something like a fudge or chocolate brownie would be a cake. What about a flapjack though? More oaty / cereal based than anything, is that still a cake? | |||
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"Whatever happened to walkers pickled onion. Good question!! I assume pickled onion Monster Munch is still available? " Had pickled onion monster munch last night, but prefer the flaming hot, also love wheato's and bacon rashers, oh and prawn shells.. | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish" Thank you....seems to be their normal input! | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish Thank you....seems to be their normal input! " Forums are supposed to be fun though. A little silliness goes a long way. | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish Thank you....seems to be their normal input! " Just do it on their thread's,they'll know what it's like then | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish" The OP mentioned cake first .. Nah you're right it's a worthy debate and I agree wholeheartedly, down with this sort of thing! | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish Thank you....seems to be their normal input! Just do it on their thread's,they'll know what it's like then " Happens on my threads ALL the time! A thread will always evolve in ways you didn't expect! But I promise, no more cake / crisp talk from me. I'm boiling up the tar and preparing the feathers as the thread gets back on track | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " Use the site how you want to and let others do the same. We are are now fully aware of your views. So let's move on and have a nice day. | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish" Tbh I agree n I thought it was against forum rules. Sorry party pooper in the house. I have no thoughts on cheaters tbh, I've been cheated on and I've been the cheater. I suppose I've more important things to worry about. PTU xxx | |||
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"Well done Roxi Anne and Miss Innocent! (And others) We all have our reasons for being here and it's no one else's business. If people have a problem then jog on by....." it is people's business if they don't want to meet cheaters.it wouldn't be so much of an issue if people cheating were honest and put it on there profile.perhaps then the amount of these threads would reduce as people that feel deceived wouldint post as much.thing is how do u expect guys or woman to be honast about it on here if they can't be honast with the person that they are supposed to care about.its a pain in the ass having to ask the same questions to rumble them. | |||
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"Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to..." And how do you know there are plenty of singles on this no questions asked no strings attached sex site? Let me guess. You ask them if they're a lying git and they say of course not honest guv Jeez this is like a friggin echo chamber in here If you're genuinely concerned about not aiding cheats only meet "singles" or couples who can confirm they have their partner's consent. If you don't want to do this and are happy to take a risk with supposedly "single" people... Fine... but don't try and take the moral high ground all the time with these silly naive posts | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... Use the site how you want to and let others do the same. We are are now fully aware of your views. So let's move on and have a nice day. " | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " I have played with women who I knew were cheating. Some before and some after the fact. It didn't bother me in the slightest because quite frankly, it's not down to me to adjust their moral compass. They are grown up people capable of making their own conscious decision to know what's right and what's wrong. They are going to cheat, either with me or somebody else. So why should I pass and miss out on the fun | |||
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"And how do you know there are plenty of singles on this no questions asked no strings attached sex site? Let me guess. You ask them if they're a lying git and they say of course not honest guv Jeez this is like a friggin echo chamber in here If you're genuinely concerned about not aiding cheats only meet "singles" or couples who can confirm they have their partner's consent. If you don't want to do this and are happy to take a risk with supposedly "single" people... Fine... but don't try and take the moral high ground all the time with these silly naive posts " QFT | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish" I got the impression that it was more a way of stating that no one is really interested in another thread about cheating rather than an outright attempt to hi jack the thread | |||
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"It's alway's funny when someone doesn't like the subject thread and rather than ignore it tries to change the line of conversation " Deflection is usually the first sign of guilt! I just hope those 'happy' to meet cheats are as happy when the cheated party find out and they don't turn up at the door or ever see the damage it does to Thierry kids! | |||
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" I'm only interested in meets of cake is on offer! Tray bakes are cakes, if they are cake tray bakes Yeah I can see that something like a fudge or chocolate brownie would be a cake. What about a flapjack though? More oaty / cereal based than anything, is that still a cake? " flap jacks are evil | |||
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"Whatever happened to walkers pickled onion. Good question!! I assume pickled onion Monster Munch is still available? " yes they are! | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish Thank you....seems to be their normal input! Forums are supposed to be fun though. A little silliness goes a long way. " and it detracts from what will inevitably turn into a slanging match as these type of threads alway do lol my mum allus told me people in glass houses should not throw stones! lol | |||
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"It's alway's funny when someone doesn't like the subject thread and rather than ignore it tries to change the line of conversation Deflection is usually the first sign of guilt! I just hope those 'happy' to meet cheats are as happy when the cheated party find out and they don't turn up at the door or ever see the damage it does to Thierry kids!" Who's Thierry as in Henry....? Deflection can be a sign of guilt or a sign of thread repetition. | |||
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"Ok a more serious take after my earlier frivolity. I cheat on here. But I'd never want an affair. The former is meaningless, no strings attached, recreational sex to me (you know, much like all the genuinely singles and happily marrieds are here for too!). No 'emotional' attachment at all (obviously I have to like the people I meet). The latter involves attachment, a degree of commitment and feeling and to me would be a line I'd never cross. That would be a real betrayal to me, and whilst I can absolutely understand why others would see the former in exactly the same light to me there's a very big difference. Everyone's moral compass is different and the 'line' is drawn in a different place. I'm not here to criticise those that have affairs, as I don't know their journey and backstory to reach that point, even though it's beyond my own personal ethics. " so would u be upset if your Mrs betrayed u and did the same or would you be completely fine with it as the sex would mean nothing to her. | |||
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"Ok a more serious take after my earlier frivolity. I cheat on here. But I'd never want an affair. The former is meaningless, no strings attached, recreational sex to me (you know, much like all the genuinely singles and happily marrieds are here for too!). No 'emotional' attachment at all (obviously I have to like the people I meet). The latter involves attachment, a degree of commitment and feeling and to me would be a line I'd never cross. That would be a real betrayal to me, and whilst I can absolutely understand why others would see the former in exactly the same light to me there's a very big difference. Everyone's moral compass is different and the 'line' is drawn in a different place. I'm not here to criticise those that have affairs, as I don't know their journey and backstory to reach that point, even though it's beyond my own personal ethics. " It wouldn't/didn't make any difference to me it was still a huge betrayal,just because he didn't say he loved the woman he cheated with doesn't mean a thing. I tried to tell myself it was just sex,but my heart told me differently. Like you say though we all have boundaries we feel aren't acceptable. | |||
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"It wouldn't/didn't make any difference to me it was still a huge betrayal,just because he didn't say he loved the woman he cheated with doesn't mean a thing. I tried to tell myself it was just sex,but my heart told me differently. Like you say though we all have boundaries we feel aren't acceptable. " This is interesting. It got me thinking. Do you think part of what goes wrong when people fall apart due to sexual infidelity is that the partner who has been cheated on just decides they can't accept it, even if it was just sex. In short, it acts as an excuse to do something they'd already been entertaining doing i.e leaving their partner | |||
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"Anyone want to cheat on their partner with me? Lol" No thanks. | |||
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"Sometimes the only way to keep the relationship going is to seek sex outside of marriage I have thought about this a lot. God forbid, my partner were involved in a horrific accident which, say, left him paralysed from the waist down. I would never leave him and would care for him for he rest of my life. But I will still have those physical needs and desires. Do I tell him that I will want to seek sex outside of marriage or do I not tell him as I think telling him will depress him even further. I really don't know what I should or would do under those hypothetical conditions I guess what I am saying is that although we would not meet a married man or a married woman whose partner is unaware, we wouldn't judge them unkindly either This is quite different from a man or a woman who just can't keep his boxers on or where she can wait to drop her panties - Mrs. J -" Very true words, however we suspect that most of the cheating people on here fit in the category of your last paragraph and that is why it becomes so hotly discussed. However will anyone ever know the real truth! Just an observation. | |||
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"Anyone want to cheat on their partner with me? Lol No thanks." Even if it was a yes I'd have to say no myself | |||
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"I have thought about this a lot. God forbid, my partner were involved in a horrific accident which, say, left him paralysed from the waist down. I would never leave him and would care for him for he rest of my life. But I will still have those physical needs and desires. Do I tell him that I will want to seek sex outside of marriage or do I not tell him as I think telling him will depress him even further. I really don't know what I should or would do under those hypothetical conditions" I think this is where I'm going with this. Emotional faithfulness is natural and central to any long-term relationship. Sexual faithfulness isn't. It's a totally unrealistic and confining expectation for the vast majority of people. So the decision to leave a cheat represents a betrayal of the emotional faithfulness at the heart of a relationship due to being unable to process the conflict between your unrealistic expectations about your partner and reality. People who don't leave cheats but work things through realise this. ?? Just a thought | |||
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"Anyone want to cheat on their partner with me? Lol No thanks. Even if it was a yes I'd have to say no myself" Funny, it is still no and we would never ask. Sour grapes doesn't look good. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " I would imagine there could be a huge number of reasons for this, and a thread isn't going to do much but cause confusion. Even just hazarding a guess though, I can think of the following potential reasons. "He/she said she wants to leave, but it's complicated due to kids/family/friends/job etc" "I like the danger aspect of it" "I enjoy the freedom it brings from being in a real relationship, as cheaters aren't as needy" "I don't like their current partner" There is even a couple on fab who I know for a fact is cheating, and not only is he not married to the girl he's fabbing with, he's married to that girls sister. This is a huge can of worms. | |||
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"It wouldn't/didn't make any difference to me it was still a huge betrayal,just because he didn't say he loved the woman he cheated with doesn't mean a thing. I tried to tell myself it was just sex,but my heart told me differently. Like you say though we all have boundaries we feel aren't acceptable. This is interesting. It got me thinking. Do you think part of what goes wrong when people fall apart due to sexual infidelity is that the partner who has been cheated on just decides they can't accept it, even if it was just sex. In short, it acts as an excuse to do something they'd already been entertaining doing i.e leaving their partner " Not in a million year's for me no,that was the furthest thing from my mind. | |||
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"Ok a more serious take after my earlier frivolity. I cheat on here. But I'd never want an affair. The former is meaningless, no strings attached, recreational sex to me (you know, much like all the genuinely singles and happily marrieds are here for too!). No 'emotional' attachment at all (obviously I have to like the people I meet). The latter involves attachment, a degree of commitment and feeling and to me would be a line I'd never cross. That would be a real betrayal to me, and whilst I can absolutely understand why others would see the former in exactly the same light to me there's a very big difference. Everyone's moral compass is different and the 'line' is drawn in a different place. I'm not here to criticise those that have affairs, as I don't know their journey and backstory to reach that point, even though it's beyond my own personal ethics. so would u be upset if your Mrs betrayed u and did the same or would you be completely fine with it as the sex would mean nothing to her." Well I must admit my emotion would be more surprise than upset as I know the full history and backstory (and the open conversations we've had with each other) on our journey to this point I'd be a hypocrite if I was angry or upset | |||
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"We've said it once before and we'll say it again but we really couldn't give a "flying fuck" what others do on this site, in their personal lives or any other lives they may have as it's absolutely none of our business or concern " But when we meet we are intertwining our lives to a certain degree. Allowing one person's being to touch and enter mine.. This is pertinent if you believe in the law of attraction..I may not physically meet the person being cheated on..but engaging with their partner is inviting and encouraging hurt. In that respect it is my business. | |||
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"Not in a million year's for me no,that was the furthest thing from my mind. " Sorry to hear that Apologies for poking around but what was it that made you decide you couldn't love him anymore, you couldn't forgive him, you had to withdraw, rather than work things out, and leave? Did you just decide sexual faithfulness was vital and you were unwilling to budge on that? Or was it other stuff? You don't have to answer if it's too personal. But it is the flip side of this issue that I don't see getting aired much on the forums | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " Hurrah for you op! I'm sure I've got a blue peter badge somewhere that I can send in recognition of your superior morals! If I can't find it - will an 'I was brave at the dentist!' Sticker do? Xx Personally I'm single and hurting no-one - but I firmly believe in 'walk a mile in their shoes' before you judge! Xx | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... I'll do what I want on this site. It's none of your business who I or anyone else meets. Pass the married cheating b*stards my way. I find they are usually uber hot, interesting, understand my needs & are a jolly good meet." ?? | |||
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"I have thought about this a lot. God forbid, my partner were involved in a horrific accident which, say, left him paralysed from the waist down. I would never leave him and would care for him for he rest of my life. But I will still have those physical needs and desires. Do I tell him that I will want to seek sex outside of marriage or do I not tell him as I think telling him will depress him even further. I really don't know what I should or would do under those hypothetical conditions I think this is where I'm going with this. Emotional faithfulness is natural and central to any long-term relationship. Sexual faithfulness isn't. It's a totally unrealistic and confining expectation for the vast majority of people. So the decision to leave a cheat represents a betrayal of the emotional faithfulness at the heart of a relationship due to being unable to process the conflict between your unrealistic expectations about your partner and reality. People who don't leave cheats but work things through realise this. ?? Just a thought " There is no relationship without emotional faithfulness. So I do agree with you to a point. But sexual unfaithfulness can emotionally hurt the partner who remains sexually faithful, or has no other choice, as I described in my hypothetical scenario I am not saying that there aren't circumstances where 'cheating' is not the better of two evils (keeping a relationship intact vs. it falling apart because one partner is sexually unfulfilled). If that is the only way to save the relationship, then so be it Let us turn the tables; let us imagine that I was in that horrific car crash. Would I really want my partner to become celibate for my sake? No, I wouldn't as I would want him to have a fulfilling life and that does include sexual fulfilment. But would I feel left out and a little bit hurt when he goes to see another woman? I think I would I don't know. But what I do know is that there are many reasons why people do this and frankly it is not my place to judge them - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Sometimes the only way to keep the relationship going is to seek sex outside of marriage I have thought about this a lot. God forbid, my partner were involved in a horrific accident which, say, left him paralysed from the waist down. I would never leave him and would care for him for he rest of my life. But I will still have those physical needs and desires. Do I tell him that I will want to seek sex outside of marriage or do I not tell him as I think telling him will depress him even further. I really don't know what I should or would do under those hypothetical conditions I guess what I am saying is that although we would not meet a married man or a married woman whose partner is unaware, we wouldn't judge them unkindly either This is quite different from a man or a woman who just can't keep his boxers on or where she can wait to drop her panties - Mrs. J - Very true words, however we suspect that most of the cheating people on here fit in the category of your last paragraph and that is why it becomes so hotly discussed. However will anyone ever know the real truth! Just an observation." Yes, unfortunately, I too suspect that the latter is the predominant reason here. But still, as you say, will anyone ever know the real truth | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. " You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! " Just about nails it really | |||
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"Let us turn the tables; let us imagine that I was in that horrific car crash. Would I really want my partner to become celibate for my sake? No, I wouldn't as I would want him to have a fulfilling life and that does include sexual fulfilment. But would I feel left out and a little bit hurt when he goes to see another woman? I think I would Thanks for your reply. If it helps see things from a different angle, we were talking together about separate meets yesterday and decided that, for us, they aren't really separate at all. What I mean is that an integral part of why they're erotic is going back to each other afterwards. If I was genuinely single again they wouldn't be half as exciting. So I think there's a way of playing separately but still doing it together. I hope that makes sense lol " Oh, yes, it does, to me. But what you are talking about is still with mutual consent We have discussed the very same possibility too. I have no issues with him meeting another woman separately from me. And during our relationship, he has on one occasion. I did not feel any jealousy or hurt as we had agreed for this to happen. He did recount some detail but frankly, I wasn't too interested as it was two in the morning and at my age, I needed my busty sleep - Mrs. J - | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish I got the impression that it was more a way of stating that no one is really interested in another thread about cheating rather than an outright attempt to hi jack the thread" A lot of interesting debate and soul-searching on this thread so it would seem some are interested. Just because a topic has been covered a lot or "done to death" some might say, doesn't mean it can't bring up some new points. I guess as long as there are relationships there will be cheating. And as long as there is cheating there will be threads about it. I will never understand why people can't just pass the thread by if it bores them that much | |||
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"Let us turn the tables; let us imagine that I was in that horrific car crash. Would I really want my partner to become celibate for my sake? No, I wouldn't as I would want him to have a fulfilling life and that does include sexual fulfilment. But would I feel left out and a little bit hurt when he goes to see another woman? I think I would Thanks for your reply. If it helps see things from a different angle, we were talking together about separate meets yesterday and decided that, for us, they aren't really separate at all. What I mean is that an integral part of why they're erotic is going back to each other afterwards. If I was genuinely single again they wouldn't be half as exciting. So I think there's a way of playing separately but still doing it together. I hope that makes sense lol Oh, yes, it does, to me. But what you are talking about is still with mutual consent We have discussed the very same possibility too. I have no issues with him meeting another woman separately from me. And during our relationship, he has on one occasion. I did not feel any jealousy or hurt as we had agreed for this to happen. He did recount some detail but frankly, I wasn't too interested as it was two in the morning and at my age, I needed my busty sleep - Mrs. J -" Damn autocorrect; beauty sleep, not busty; although an extra inch or two on the bust wouldn't go amiss either - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Not in a million year's for me no,that was the furthest thing from my mind. Sorry to hear that Apologies for poking around but what was it that made you decide you couldn't love him anymore, you couldn't forgive him, you had to withdraw, rather than work things out, and leave? Did you just decide sexual faithfulness was vital and you were unwilling to budge on that? Or was it other stuff? You don't have to answer if it's too personal. But it is the flip side of this issue that I don't see getting aired much on the forums " I don't suppose it was just the sex side of it,the affair had infact finished a month prior to him having to tell,which was exactly a week before xmas. He was forced into telling me as the girl's boyfriend found out and he basically said you tell your wife or I will. It was also the fact he pulled right back from us for months,I could hear him talking late at night whilst I was upstairs,so many things fell into place once he told me,being possessive about his phone so many thing's. I was stupid and couldn't see what was infront of me,we'd only adopted our young family two year's prior it was their devastation as well. I did kinda think one day we'd get back together,but then I met someone else so that was that... He's actually remarried to someone 16 year's or so younger with a kid of his own,so he doesn't regret anything,maybe what he did to our kid's but probably not... | |||
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"We've said it once before and we'll say it again but we really couldn't give a "flying fuck" what others do on this site, in their personal lives or any other lives they may have as it's absolutely none of our business or concern But when we meet we are intertwining our lives to a certain degree. Allowing one person's being to touch and enter mine.. This is pertinent if you believe in the law of attraction..I may not physically meet the person being cheated on..but engaging with their partner is inviting and encouraging hurt. In that respect it is my business. " Interesting perspective. The associations we make are always more profound than appears on the surface in my opinion, they are like an iceberg in that regard. You are indeed colluding with the betrayal to some extent too. | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! " It's also a site for NSA sex, I tapped that into google & et voila up popped Fabs. I don't swing and there are single people on here that don't either, they use the site tools provided to meet others. I do believe everyone should be upfront so people can make an informed decision but that applies to all other aspects that people can lie about too. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " I'm cheating and have had a few meets in the past with married men. Does it make me feel bad? No Will I keep on doing it? Hell yes. Life's too short not to have some fun x | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! It's also a site for NSA sex, I tapped that into google & et voila up popped Fabs. I don't swing and there are single people on here that don't either, they use the site tools provided to meet others. I do believe everyone should be upfront so people can make an informed decision but that applies to all other aspects that people can lie about too." I agree with the consent issue as you see it totally. Even though I don't have consent and without sounding hypocritical if I didn't attend clubs occasionally or use this site I'd have no option for sex or chat...that chat doesn't always involve sexual content either as club visits don't always involve having involvement. I don't wanna go down the road of the unhappy sexless marriage tone because that just opens another can of worms. I suppose also it's a good place to be for singles to hook up. Also owning up would be a good idea. My profile doesn't say either whether I'm married but I'd never deny it if the question was asked and on more than one occasion I've been knocked back because I've owned up. I'd rather it be that way I'd never want to string someone along into thinking I was single and there was an option for a relationship. In fact I've never had a meet yet from this site!!! I just enjoy the site, reading profiles and looking at pics. I like Chams at Darlaston for the sexy atmosphere and if I play I play if not it's sexier than sitting on my Jack all night watching porn. Anyway I'm out of the closet now...married, desperate, cheat and to be honest addicted to swinging lol | |||
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"Ignitemybody thanks for sharing your story. It sounds very painful. I'm sorry you had to go through that. What it does perhaps highlight though is that it's not the sexual infidelity that's necessarily the problem but rather all the lying and emotional withdrawal that went with it. A partner who is unfaithful but confesses soon after may not make you feel great but perhaps theirs is a lesser sin? " Well he didn't have a choice in confessing really,it was him or someone else telling me. At the end of the day the outcome was the same,I suppose yes you could argue it was probably better than him falling for someone,but I still couldn't forgive and then I eventually got used to him not being there and moved on. I would be mortified and ashamed if I had sex with a married man and his wife turned up on my doorstep,I know how painful that is and don't want to be a part of it. | |||
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"Coming on a site like this to cheat is one thing..but what I really find disturbing(for ME personally) is people whave full and engaging profiles, socialise, are active contributors to forums, banter and jokes, friends etc..It's like a parallel life..with this partner at home clueless about this side of your personality that so many here admire and enjoy and seek.. Does this make sense?" Yes and my heart goes out to their partners,at least with my ex it was just the one person (as far as I know). Funnily enough the guy I went out with after I split,his ex wife was on one of these site's and he found multiple photos of her shagging different men,now that would be absolutely awful. | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. " are jaffa cakes crisps......? | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish" Couldn't agree more We won't knowingly meet marrieds of either sex playing solo so we just assume that everyone who can't accommodate is in a relationship. Even if there's a reason for it on their profile it makes no difference to us as there's no proof that what they're saying is true. | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. are jaffa cakes crisps......? " No but they're feckin lush when you're stoned :-0 | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! " Me and 1000's more on here, male and female!! At least here and at clubs it's for no strings fun as long as all parties involved consent to that. Cheating outside the swinging scene leads to expectancy, and relationships that become too deep. It's each to their own and how can anyone say 110% no matter how much you vet someone before meeting that they aren't cheating!!? There are so many men and women that spend their working week away from family leading secret lives and in some cases a lot of those they leave behind at home are cheating too!!! BTW I'm not saying it's right....for everyone that is. Just for some it gives you back from time to time the 10% you're missing in your full time relationship. | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. You're right, it's a swingers site! Biggest rule of swinging is consent! If you have your partners consent to fuck around that's swinging. If you don't, that's not swinging, it's you being a cheat! Me and 1000's more on here, male and female!! At least here and at clubs it's for no strings fun as long as all parties involved consent to that. Cheating outside the swinging scene leads to expectancy, and relationships that become too deep. It's each to their own and how can anyone say 110% no matter how much you vet someone before meeting that they aren't cheating!!? There are so many men and women that spend their working week away from family leading secret lives and in some cases a lot of those they leave behind at home are cheating too!!! BTW I'm not saying it's right....for everyone that is. Just for some it gives you back from time to time the 10% you're missing in your full time relationship." Well said | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... Hurrah for you op! I'm sure I've got a blue peter badge somewhere that I can send in recognition of your superior morals! If I can't find it - will an 'I was brave at the dentist!' Sticker do? Xx Personally I'm single and hurting no-one - but I firmly believe in 'walk a mile in their shoes' before you judge! Xx" I love that last sentence....walk a mile in their shoes....exactly!! Know yourself before you judge others P.S I'm glad you said Blue Peter badge and not Jim'll fix it medal | |||
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"Yawn, yawn, same old, same old. Many people cheat, and some people have very goood reason to, but people are so quick to judge without knowing people's circumstances. It's also extremely obvious on Fab, especially in these forums, about those who have been cheated on and have been left feeling angry and bitter. It's not an appealing image of yourself to portray. Why not let go, move on and stop blaming the cheaters all the time. There are always 2 sides to every story, sometime people's choices to cheat are forced due to varying circumstances. Why can't people live and let live. If you don't want to meet cheaters, well I'm sorry but there is no guarantee that if you meet 'singles', that they aren't married/attached. If people feel that strongly against cheaters then perhaps they shouldn't be meeting any singles at all. " Whats a "Good" reason to cheat though?! If I randomly burgled your house or punched you in the nose would you excuse it by saying everybodys different so its ok? Granted they are crimes but to many people they don't pee you off as much. People aren't gonna change on the back of anybody's opinion but you can't moan about people having an opinion on it! If somebody feels the need to cheat then they shouldn't be sneaky about it, should just leave the person they are going to hurt and then they can do what they like without screwing someone over. | |||
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"I find it very heartening that a good number of people on this site have the moral standard that decries cheating. Well done most. Xxxx " Live by your own moral standard and let others live by theirs, I can assure you they differ greatly from what I've seen. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... I'll do what I want on this site. It's none of your business who I or anyone else meets." Agreed and my profile states very clearly my views on this but everyone has the right to use this site as they wish To each their own as far as I'm concerned | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " Cannot accommodate ? Sounds like something to hide Ok is that only males who cannot accommodate who have? I get so confussed on here sometimes | |||
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"When your asked by someone is my partner cheating and you say no when you know for a fact they are arranging meets... Or you persist in contacting someone outside of fab to ask to meet again when you know they left the site to be in a relationship... Thats the kind of enabling, encouraging and covering up that makes some people on here dangerous. " Point 1 ~ that's a hard call to make, it's not upto you to confirm or deny. Point 2 ~ that's not enabling or encouraging it's being plain disrespectful of the new situation / boundaries that are now in place. | |||
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"When your asked by someone is my partner cheating and you say no when you know for a fact they are arranging meets... Or you persist in contacting someone outside of fab to ask to meet again when you know they left the site to be in a relationship... Thats the kind of enabling, encouraging and covering up that makes some people on here dangerous. " How is it dangerous? No matter if 1 or 1000 people ask to meet again, it's up to the person in the relationship to just say no. | |||
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"People trying to be virtuous on a swinging site .... The people who moan about cheaters and have an axe to grind about it and have probably been cheating on and can't get over it .. they will probably ruin future relationships because there paranoid about being cheated on .. Im separated,im single and i never cheated in 18 years of marriage.. But I don't judge others that do ." Seems you've done a lot of judging in that comment | |||
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"People trying to be virtuous on a swinging site .... The people who moan about cheaters and have an axe to grind about it and have probably been cheating on and can't get over it .. they will probably ruin future relationships because there paranoid about being cheated on .. Im separated,im single and i never cheated in 18 years of marriage.. But I don't judge others that do . Seems you've done a lot of judging in that comment " Bugger it does doesn't it lol .. I've contradicted myself lol Hahaha | |||
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"We have no problem at all with people cheating on their partners, it’s nothing to do with us, but as we do this swingy thing without the knowledge of our friends and family, we would hate to find ourselves being named in divorce papers and possibly in a court room after being subpoenaed by the wronged partner. If those cheating make it clear that is what they are doing then others can make a decision to play or not." Named in a court room? Thats rather dramatic. We never give full personal details to anyone we play with so that would never happen. We keep this side of our life separate to our 'real' life. | |||
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"Anyone want to cheat on their partner with me? Lol No thanks. Even if it was a yes I'd have to say no myself Funny, it is still no and we would never ask. Sour grapes doesn't look good." no sour grapes hear was just trying to make light of a shitty post. It was you that was rude and offencive | |||
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"Bakewell tarts, Cheese and onion disco crisps. Yes im married clearly states that on my profile, I have my reasons. " Everyone has their reason's | |||
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"I just get tired sometimes, my question is how are we supposed to spot a cheat in a swinging environment, for example in a swinging club, am I supposed to ask every lady I sleep with in the club ,show me the evidence that your boyfriend or husband gave you permission to fuck me? Is there any lady without a boyfriend or someone she is seeing? Or a lady sees a hot, handsome guy with a massive cock and she fucks him , how will she know he is cheating? People should stop putting the responsibility for checking the behavior of their partners on others , if you have a man that is handsome and he goes to a swinging club , multiple ladies are going to fuck him and ride his cock well. It is not their responsibility or fault. " 4th time lucky?! | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. " Has to be Chipstix for me or pickled onion monster munch | |||
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"We have no problem at all with people cheating on their partners, it’s nothing to do with us, but as we do this swingy thing without the knowledge of our friends and family, we would hate to find ourselves being named in divorce papers and possibly in a court room after being subpoenaed by the wronged partner. If those cheating make it clear that is what they are doing then others can make a decision to play or not. Named in a court room? Thats rather dramatic. We never give full personal details to anyone we play with so that would never happen. We keep this side of our life separate to our 'real' life." I always refer to my non- Fab side as my 'ordinary' life | |||
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"Even if guys know a girl is cheating , or a girl knows a guy is cheating and they meet in a swinging club, they are going to fuck them, this is just reality." So if you knew your sister was cheating on her husband, and she knew you were cheating on your wife, and you bumped into each other at a club, then it would just be inevitable that you'd fuck your sister? Is that correct? Hopefully this gives you a small window out of your "ruthless application of logic" world and into the rather more complex, and all the more beautiful for it, world beyond | |||
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"Even if guys know a girl is cheating , or a girl knows a guy is cheating and they meet in a swinging club, they are going to fuck them, this is just reality. So if you knew your sister was cheating on her husband, and she knew you were cheating on your wife, and you bumped into each other at a club, then it would just be inevitable that you'd fuck your sister? Is that correct? Hopefully this gives you a small window out of your "ruthless application of logic" world and into the rather more complex, and all the more beautiful for it, world beyond " Lets not put it like that you understand my point, will you trust any of your friends not to fuck your partner in a swinging club, if you were not there and they met him there and you know what these ladies wear in the club | |||
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"Even if guys know a girl is cheating , or a girl knows a guy is cheating and they meet in a swinging club, they are going to fuck them, this is just reality. So if you knew your sister was cheating on her husband, and she knew you were cheating on your wife, and you bumped into each other at a club, then it would just be inevitable that you'd fuck your sister? Is that correct? Hopefully this gives you a small window out of your "ruthless application of logic" world and into the rather more complex, and all the more beautiful for it, world beyond Lets not put it like that you understand my point, will you trust any of your friends not to fuck your partner in a swinging club, if you were not there and they met him there and you know what these ladies wear in the club" The point is that if you can think of one scenario that definitely breaks the theory then you can begin to realise that there may be many other scenarios that might break the theory (neighbours, colleagues, friends, nightmares). Once you realise that there are many many instances in which the theory wouldn't work you either chuck out the theory or start couching it in weaker language like "maybe" or "perhaps". You certainly don't go banding it round as if it was a factually proven universal truth and claiming you're just applying hard critical thinking. | |||
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"Even if guys know a girl is cheating , or a girl knows a guy is cheating and they meet in a swinging club, they are going to fuck them, this is just reality. So if you knew your sister was cheating on her husband, and she knew you were cheating on your wife, and you bumped into each other at a club, then it would just be inevitable that you'd fuck your sister? Is that correct? Hopefully this gives you a small window out of your "ruthless application of logic" world and into the rather more complex, and all the more beautiful for it, world beyond Lets not put it like that you understand my point, will you trust any of your friends not to fuck your partner in a swinging club, if you were not there and they met him there and you know what these ladies wear in the club The point is that if you can think of one scenario that definitely breaks the theory then you can begin to realise that there may be many other scenarios that might break the theory (neighbours, colleagues, friends, nightmares). Once you realise that there are many many instances in which the theory wouldn't work you either chuck out the theory or start couching it in weaker language like "maybe" or "perhaps". You certainly don't go banding it round as if it was a factually proven universal truth and claiming you're just applying hard critical thinking. " Apart from family members every category you wrote is subject to temptations in the club, there is something funny about swinging that makes it like that. Will you trust any of your friends in a swinging club with your partner once you are not there, remember he can see their pussy in full display as they talk, please answer me this question directly and don't deflect from the question. | |||
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"We are all cheats on here in some way or other op even u " Please elaborate on that accusation. | |||
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"We are all cheats on here in some way or other op even u Please elaborate on that accusation." its not an accusation it's a fact we all fantasise about other people other than our partners whilst not all of us act on these impulses bit we are sort of cheating and that is a fact | |||
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"We are all cheats on here in some way or other op even u Please elaborate on that accusation.its not an accusation it's a fact we all fantasise about other people other than our partners whilst not all of us act on these impulses bit we are sort of cheating and that is a fact" I don't have a partner. However your remark shows that you obviously do. | |||
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"We are all cheats on here in some way or other op even u Please elaborate on that accusation.its not an accusation it's a fact we all fantasise about other people other than our partners whilst not all of us act on these impulses bit we are sort of cheating and that is a fact I don't have a partner. However your remark shows that you obviously do." no I'm speaking in the third person to put my option across as someone who has in the past been guilty of it | |||
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"We have no problem at all with people cheating on their partners, it’s nothing to do with us, but as we do this swingy thing without the knowledge of our friends and family, we would hate to find ourselves being named in divorce papers and possibly in a court room after being subpoenaed by the wronged partner. If those cheating make it clear that is what they are doing then others can make a decision to play or not. Named in a court room? Thats rather dramatic. We never give full personal details to anyone we play with so that would never happen. We keep this side of our life separate to our 'real' life." Don't forget the screaming partner turning up on the doorstep with the brood in tow, that line is usually trotted out too. | |||
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"Whatever happened to walkers pickled onion. Good question!! I assume pickled onion Monster Munch is still available? " They have them at my local garage | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. " Oh come on... it's gotta be monster munch right? | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. Oh come on... it's gotta be monster munch right? " there's a few I'd like to munch on then unleash my monster on lol oh were on about crisps lol | |||
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"We are all cheats on here in some way or other op even u Please elaborate on that accusation.its not an accusation it's a fact we all fantasise about other people other than our partners whilst not all of us act on these impulses bit we are sort of cheating and that is a fact" I dont have a partner! When I am involved with someone I have no desires at all for anyone else, I am monogamous in thought and body and when I no longer feel that desire for my partner its time to end relationship so your fact is incorrect. I am by no means a swinger im here as a single and have no thoughts to share or be shared by anyone even as a single so certainly isnt in my thoughts to do so when attached. | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " if u been cheated on op that's bad but we're not here to judge just have fun and no one ever knows anyone's true situation. And if u made a point of contacting the person who he's cheating with they are probably going to tell him he's been rumbled abd try to distance themselves from it | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. Oh come on... it's gotta be monster munch right? there's a few I'd like to munch on then unleash my monster on lol oh were on about crisps lol" I'm partial to a salt and vinegar square crisp or chipsticks. Now are they crisps? | |||
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"Apart from family members every category you wrote is subject to temptations in the club, there is something funny about swinging that makes it like that. Will you trust any of your friends in a swinging club with your partner once you are not there, remember he can see their pussy in full display as they talk, please answer me this question directly and don't deflect from the question." Well we have an 80 year old friend I'd trust him with. Then there's our 60 year old cleaning lady. The crazy cat lady next door. That frigging nightmare woman on the end of our street who's always screaming at the top of her voice. Any of my work colleagues. Then long term friends. Yes I suspect, whilst you might be utterly bereft of any critical faculties and helplessly victim to your inability to resist any vagina that wafts under your nose, shagging your way through all the above, I'm entirely confident the mere sight of their vaginas and even their best efforts to seduce him would have Mr heading out the back door. So now you stop deflecting from the fact that the way you talk of things as if they were universally true and express theories as if they were proven fact is totally laughable and a million miles away from anything resembling serious critical thinking | |||
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"Whatever happened to walkers pickled onion. Good question!! I assume pickled onion Monster Munch is still available? yes they are! " I prefer flaming hot monster munch to pickled onion. Anyway, I don't care about matital status as long as the sex is flaming hot | |||
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"Apart from family members every category you wrote is subject to temptations in the club, there is something funny about swinging that makes it like that. Will you trust any of your friends in a swinging club with your partner once you are not there, remember he can see their pussy in full display as they talk, please answer me this question directly and don't deflect from the question. Well we have an 80 year old friend I'd trust him with. Then there's our 60 year old cleaning lady. The crazy cat lady next door. That frigging nightmare woman on the end of our street who's always screaming at the top of her voice. Any of my work colleagues. Then long term friends. Yes I suspect, whilst you might be utterly bereft of any critical faculties and helplessly victim to your inability to resist any vagina that wafts under your nose, shagging your way through all the above, I'm entirely confident the mere sight of their vaginas and even their best efforts to seduce him would have Mr heading out the back door. So now you stop deflecting from the fact that the way you talk of things as if they were universally true and express theories as if they were proven fact is totally laughable and a million miles away from anything resembling serious critical thinking " I like you! | |||
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"The great thing about people here is that while we have some obvious things in common we all have our own reasons for visiting. Some people think it is black and white but eventually, if they take a moment to stop judging, they will realise there are many many shades of grey......" I heard tell there are 50? | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... " Just an observation how do you know if the couple you are talking to or meet are in fact a proper couple and not just friends with benefits type of couple? Think you will find that cheating is not restricted to so called single people. If you're that worried about cheaters then you're on the wrong site, there's probably very few sites where there are only genuine single people on there. You should do your own checks on potential meets trust your instincts before meeting people. By being on a site such as this you're going to come into contact with people who are going to offend your moral compass if this offends you so much then you're on the wrong site. | |||
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"Slut has her own account and fucks who she wants when she wants some I know about and I know she hasn't told me about ever meet she's has. So yes she cheats on me but she's happy and it turns me on . Works for us and makes us strong together " She has such a great arse it would be a sin not to share it | |||
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"Apart from family members every category you wrote is subject to temptations in the club, there is something funny about swinging that makes it like that. Will you trust any of your friends in a swinging club with your partner once you are not there, remember he can see their pussy in full display as they talk, please answer me this question directly and don't deflect from the question. Well we have an 80 year old friend I'd trust him with. Then there's our 60 year old cleaning lady. The crazy cat lady next door. That frigging nightmare woman on the end of our street who's always screaming at the top of her voice. Any of my work colleagues. Then long term friends. Yes I suspect, whilst you might be utterly bereft of any critical faculties and helplessly victim to your inability to resist any vagina that wafts under your nose, shagging your way through all the above, I'm entirely confident the mere sight of their vaginas and even their best efforts to seduce him would have Mr heading out the back door. So now you stop deflecting from the fact that the way you talk of things as if they were universally true and express theories as if they were proven fact is totally laughable and a million miles away from anything resembling serious critical thinking I like you!" Me too! | |||
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"Apart from family members every category you wrote is subject to temptations in the club, there is something funny about swinging that makes it like that. Will you trust any of your friends in a swinging club with your partner once you are not there, remember he can see their pussy in full display as they talk, please answer me this question directly and don't deflect from the question. Well we have an 80 year old friend I'd trust him with. Then there's our 60 year old cleaning lady. The crazy cat lady next door. That frigging nightmare woman on the end of our street who's always screaming at the top of her voice. Any of my work colleagues. Then long term friends. Yes I suspect, whilst you might be utterly bereft of any critical faculties and helplessly victim to your inability to resist any vagina that wafts under your nose, shagging your way through all the above, I'm entirely confident the mere sight of their vaginas and even their best efforts to seduce him would have Mr heading out the back door. So now you stop deflecting from the fact that the way you talk of things as if they were universally true and express theories as if they were proven fact is totally laughable and a million miles away from anything resembling serious critical thinking " I really like you and you turn me on , infact I have a hard cock already and will really like to fuck you, I will be in Xstasia on Friday for a party if you want to meet, I am very handsome and very sweet. Ladies, this is how to challenge a point intellectually, no cheap shots just the ability to think, now my mind is thinking what can you do in bed but I digress. Back to the topic, when it comes to pussy, I refuse pussy as most of the female contributors will tell you I didn't even look at their profile but I find it impossible to refuse you. I will say I agree with the non attractive examples you quoted but disagree it will apply with any hot beautiful lady in that category, since you are so confident, I will give you some street wisdom. "Trust no man with your friends pussy because a hard cock has no feelings when seduced by a beautiful woman" | |||
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"Why do you help cover up cheating? Some even go as far as warning them when theyve been rumbled... Seems bizarre you help the wrong doer and blatantly lie to the one needing the real help when they have gone so far as to asked for confirmation of the cheating! Come on, keep it fair and up front... stop aiding and enabling, theres plenty of singles and couples without those playing away being helped to cheat even encouraged to... I'll do what I want on this site. It's none of your business who I or anyone else meets. Pass the married cheating b*stards my way. I find they are usually uber hot, interesting, understand my needs & are a jolly good meet." You are my ideal woman | |||
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"Oh! spot the enablers already. lol *waves* Anyway, perhaps the more pertinent question to ask is "what's everyone favourite flavour crisps?" Mine are Walkers Sensations Thai Sweet Chilli, love them! Although can we count Doritos as crisps? If we can then it's the chilli Doritos that win for me. " I like the chicken and thyme sensations! | |||
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"And how do you know there are plenty of singles on this no questions asked no strings attached sex site? Let me guess. You ask them if they're a lying git and they say of course not honest guv Jeez this is like a friggin echo chamber in here If you're genuinely concerned about not aiding cheats only meet "singles" or couples who can confirm they have their partner's consent. If you don't want to do this and are happy to take a risk with supposedly "single" people... Fine... but don't try and take the moral high ground all the time with these silly naive posts QFT" QFT? | |||
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"Why judge...it's a swingers site not Match dot com. That's the whole point of swingers sites and swingers clubs, there's a place for everyone. I attend Chams at Darlaston and I've heard one or two nasty judgemental comments and it's un called for there's a place for everyone. In answer to your question though 'why cheat' people cheat, we cheat, I cheat because there is something missing from the vanilla life we lead. " It's a swingers site not cheat dot com. The whole point of swingers sites and clubs is for swingers to interact! | |||
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"If you don't like what the OP has to say fair enough. If you don't want to answer the question or give a viewpoint fair enough. But trying to derail the thread talking about crisps and cake? That just seems childish Couldn't agree more We won't knowingly meet marrieds of either sex playing solo so we just assume that everyone who can't accommodate is in a relationship. Even if there's a reason for it on their profile it makes no difference to us as there's no proof that what they're saying is true. " The newest "craze" is a lot of guys have lodgers. Oddly enough having a lodger shouldn't stop a guy going out at the weekend | |||
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