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"It certainly is that to me Means no emotions involved and I can't have sex without emotions so won't touch NSA profiles " Surely it doesn't mean no emotions, it purely means no strings. This is different is it not? | |||
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"No Strings Attached to me simply means no commitment, so not a typical 'relationship'. A connection is always necessary for good sex in my opinion, but I can tell if there is a connection from chatting and a social not from whether there are three letters on their profile or not. NSA on a profile wouldn't put me off as I'm aware that as a term it can mean different things to different people so I would just want to discuss expectations with any person I was chatting to. " This is exactly what I thought | |||
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"To me it means zero expectations about anyone having to keep in contact afterwards and especially definitely no kind of bf/gf relationship ship afterwards. It doesn't necessarily mean there isn't going to be a connection there for me. Not a connection where anyone is going to fall head over heels or expect to definitely see or even talk to that person again, but a fun sexual connection." Exactly this! There can be a sexual connection but not one where there is anything beyond. (Excuse the rather public approach here but as a fellow Hampshire resident and someone close by I would very much like to chat with you and see how we get on. Please pm me if interested). | |||
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"means using each other for sex. puts me off as well, not even for any attached implication, just i think the guy won't even be that good in bed, no foreplay or anything for me but expect his dick sucked." Foreplay is everything! So crucial. That's where reading profiles is important as this is stated clearly | |||
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"means using each other for sex. puts me off as well, not even for any attached implication, just i think the guy won't even be that good in bed, no foreplay or anything for me but expect his dick sucked. Foreplay is everything! So crucial. That's where reading profiles is important as this is stated clearly" in a world of liars you very easily learn to read between the lines. | |||
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"I must have missed something but at what point did NSA mean that a person has no feelings? You can still feel without wanting to have any commitment attachment!" This! I guess I'm learning that NSA means cut off/cold/ having no emotions/selfish functional sex etc to some people. For me it's never meant any of that. That's just the definition of shit sex! I've even had what I'd call great NSA arrangements with longterm friends with benefits. These have involved genuine care and respect and often resulted in being great friends in a more vanilla way too. There are simply just no strings. Meaning no relationship commitments or expectations and we are free to see other people. But I guess this thread is teaching me I should explain my definition from now on, if I ever use it in a conversation as it has become clear to me that lots of people see it differently. X | |||
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"No drama, no pressure a laugh a giggle and great sex " Exactly! I want great sex. I don't want to be just a hole - which is how I would feel with someone that bleats on about NSA. We all know it's NSA already. I knew I shouldn't have worn the white dress to my last meet | |||
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"I wonder if some people think of the NSA in relation to the sex rather than to the arrangement. Perhaps you see 'no strings' as equalling 'no frills'?! I don't think the NSA relates to the kind of sex....but rather to the kind of expectations. It makes me think of a puppet on a string being controlled by another vs there being no strings. Anyway....Ive said enough, that's a double post now...hopefully that's not punishable! " Excellent words and exactly what I was getting at!! | |||
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"Just sent a message to a single lady introducing myself in the hope maybe something might come of it. I got rejected as my profile text states I'm looking for NSA. Apparently this means an attached bloke looking for a quick fuck?? I know NSA means no strings attached but surely single people can want this as well." To us all it means is the person is happy to meet and play but does not expect any commitment after the meet In other words the person understands what swinging is | |||
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"Just sent a message to a single lady introducing myself in the hope maybe something might come of it. I got rejected as my profile text states I'm looking for NSA. Apparently this means an attached bloke looking for a quick fuck?? I know NSA means no strings attached but surely single people can want this as well." Yup definitely just means no strings attached. | |||
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"I think this post has taught me that even after a year on here I'm still very inexperienced when it come to fab! I'm learning that things that I thought meant one thing on hear do not mean quite the same. Maybe I'm naive and too trusting but I tend to take what people say as what they mean." I think the point is everyone has their own take on it just as swinging means different things to different people and as always communication is key. | |||
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"It certainly is that to me Means no emotions involved and I can't have sex without emotions so won't touch NSA profiles Surely it doesn't mean no emotions, it purely means no strings. This is different is it not?" Not from my experience. Most guys who have wanted NSA have just wanted a willing pussy available..No involvement whatsoever. | |||
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"I ignore single men who state NSA. I am not about to have sex with any man who doesn't feel anything, whatsoever, for me. I am not looking for a relationship as I have a strong one with my husband. But I have no intention of being treated like a free prostitute by some random - Mrs. J -" Couldn't have put it better. This is exactly what.many guys are using fab for - looking for a free hooker. That's perfectly fine if the lady feels exactly the same of course but I don't want to be seen as a hooker on fab. So therefore the NSA profiles don't interest me. | |||
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"It certainly is that to me Means no emotions involved and I can't have sex without emotions so won't touch NSA profiles Surely it doesn't mean no emotions, it purely means no strings. This is different is it not?" If there's emotions then surely that means strings? NSA is just sex no connection or emotions involved just pure physical pleasure | |||
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"Just sent a message to a single lady introducing myself in the hope maybe something might come of it. I got rejected as my profile text states I'm looking for NSA. Apparently this means an attached bloke looking for a quick fuck?? I know NSA means no strings attached but surely single people can want this as well." yes they can just like other people single or not can choose to say no thanks to becoming just another meaningless encounter . you fee you was disrespected op in my opinion hence your forum post but the truth is you was shown respect by the fact someone had the strength of character to stay true to there own needs and turn you down based off of that fact . its just a pity all those only looking for NSA don't post it boldly and proudly on there profile op .a fact you should be commended on because you allow those looking for more to pass you on by as you are being true to yourself and therefore with those you interact with just like the person was being with you and too themselves when they turned you down based on the grounds of you not looking for the same thing as them , that's respectful behaviour shown to you op not disrespectful in any way shape or form in my opinion . | |||
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"I won't meet NSA as to me it implies just want a fuck. If I want something with zero emotion involved I'll get my dildo collection out and do the job DIY style." well put tink | |||
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"so can someone explain the difference between nsa, fb & fwb ? because they all meet up for sex, lots of passion, chat online, can still hangout together but they both have their own private lives...." What do you mean by a private life? I have sex with my husband but I have me-time and me-space away from him too. However, I don't think of it as my private life - Mrs. J - | |||
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"so can someone explain the difference between nsa, fb & fwb ? because they all meet up for sex, lots of passion, chat online, can still hangout together but they both have their own private lives...." Nsa= no requirement for phone calls, messages, meetups etc in between the sex sessions. Those are the "strings" in a relationship. Nsa is the freedom to walk away without explanation or hassle Fb=. Fuckbuddy, someone you get on with and whose company you enjoy but you only really meet up for sex, not general socialising Fwb= someone you meet socially, maybe go to the pub with, cinema etc but might end up in bed with as well, without the requirement for a committed relationship | |||
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"OP I agree with you about the definition. To me it means, in contrast to a relationship, there is no obligation in between meets. It does not mean there is no effort or friendship for the duration of the meet, and I regard it that once a meet is a arranged there is an obligation for that commitment to be honoured. However, a lot of single men on Fab have very different view of NSA. To some it means they expect sex with no effort or friendship and if something comes up they will wilfully cancel. *** To me NSA, by my definition, goes without saying on a swingers site, so the men that feel the need to state the obvious on their profile probably take the view that NSA means 'fuck and go'. Mrs" *** Absolutely agree with this end bit. | |||
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"so can someone explain the difference between nsa, fb & fwb ? because they all meet up for sex, lots of passion, chat online, can still hangout together but they both have their own private lives.... What do you mean by a private life? I have sex with my husband but I have me-time and me-space away from him too. However, I don't think of it as my private life - Mrs. J -" some people like to keep their private lives e.g. family, kids, friends, previous fucks, workplace etc out of their fab lives and i respect them for that | |||
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"I think this post has taught me that even after a year on here I'm still very inexperienced when it come to fab! I'm learning that things that I thought meant one thing on hear do not mean quite the same. Maybe I'm naive and too trusting but I tend to take what people say as what they mean." I've learned that terms mean different things to different people. There is no right or wrong. | |||
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"so can someone explain the difference between nsa, fb & fwb ? because they all meet up for sex, lots of passion, chat online, can still hangout together but they both have their own private lives.... Nsa= no requirement for phone calls, messages, meetups etc in between the sex sessions. Those are the "strings" in a relationship. Nsa is the freedom to walk away without explanation or hassle Fb=. Fuckbuddy, someone you get on with and whose company you enjoy but you only really meet up for sex, not general socialising Fwb= someone you meet socially, maybe go to the pub with, cinema etc but might end up in bed with as well, without the requirement for a committed relationship " hmmm what if they overlap those explanations lol | |||
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"so can someone explain the difference between nsa, fb & fwb ? because they all meet up for sex, lots of passion, chat online, can still hangout together but they both have their own private lives.... What do you mean by a private life? I have sex with my husband but I have me-time and me-space away from him too. However, I don't think of it as my private life - Mrs. J - some people like to keep their private lives e.g. family, kids, friends, previous fucks, workplace etc out of their fab lives and i respect them for that" But that is mostly true when it comes to most friends, except in the case of one, maybe two, bestest, bestest friends So, NSA is just a fuck and forget, until the next time. That is exactly what I thought it was - Mrs. J - | |||
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"It certainly is that to me Means no emotions involved and I can't have sex without emotions so won't touch NSA profiles Surely it doesn't mean no emotions, it purely means no strings. This is different is it not?" Ive got nsa on my profile. No strings no hassle | |||
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"NSA means that there are no ties , no requirements to stay in touch , you are free to play with others with no reprocussions , and the meet is without commitment . It doesn't mean there are no emotions involved at all though . The best meets are when all parties feel free of any baggage and can just let go . Sheer adrenaline , carnal desire , lust , passion and all that . All of this requires emotion or it isn't real . The emotion is often off the scale during the meet , but is left behind afterwards . That's NSA for us ." Exactly. We have a similar view. This thread just goes to show it's best to avoid vague catch phrases. | |||
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"NSA means that there are no ties , no requirements to stay in touch , you are free to play with others with no reprocussions , and the meet is without commitment . It doesn't mean there are no emotions involved at all though . The best meets are when all parties feel free of any baggage and can just let go . Sheer adrenaline , carnal desire , lust , passion and all that . All of this requires emotion or it isn't real . The emotion is often off the scale during the meet , but is left behind afterwards . That's NSA for us . Exactly. We have a similar view. This thread just goes to show it's best to avoid vague catch phrases. " Left behind? I couldn't meet folk in that way for sex. Social yep, easily but great frenzied sex comes with intensity of.emotion and I can't separate the two. If you read my other post you will see however that it doesn't mean I want a conventional boyfriend either! I am a free spirit and intend to remain that way! | |||
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"It certainly is that to me Means no emotions involved and I can't have sex without emotions so won't touch NSA profiles Surely it doesn't mean no emotions, it purely means no strings. This is different is it not?" I dont like it as it seems to be a purely subjective term, some see the "strings" as emotional attachment and other see it as no commitment | |||
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"NSA means that there are no ties , no requirements to stay in touch , you are free to play with others with no reprocussions , and the meet is without commitment . It doesn't mean there are no emotions involved at all though . The best meets are when all parties feel free of any baggage and can just let go . Sheer adrenaline , carnal desire , lust , passion and all that . All of this requires emotion or it isn't real . The emotion is often off the scale during the meet , but is left behind afterwards . That's NSA for us . Exactly. We have a similar view. This thread just goes to show it's best to avoid vague catch phrases. Left behind? I couldn't meet folk in that way for sex. Social yep, easily but great frenzied sex comes with intensity of.emotion and I can't separate the two. If you read my other post you will see however that it doesn't mean I want a conventional boyfriend either! I am a free spirit and intend to remain that way!" Luckily for us we are able to separate the two , but great frenzied sex does involve all the emotions we explained . The fact that we leave them behind after the meet doesn't detract from the pleasure all parties embrace during it . | |||
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"It should mean no strings as in no worries of one trying to turn it into a relationship, no baggage and no jealousy. But as with everything on fab it all gets a bit lost in translation and has ended up being used by people looking for a cum dump, which then puts people off. On here it's best to spell out exactly what you mean then no one can put two and two together and come up with six..... they'll probably complain your profile is too long winded instead though...sorry " Ooohhh...Cum dump..Another phrase I first heard on fab and which I loathe! However it is appropriate for this thread unfortunately. I do agree that NSA means different things to different people and at the end of the day we are all consenting adults to do as we wish on fab. | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? " By good communication and not making any assumptions | |||
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"It should mean no strings as in no worries of one trying to turn it into a relationship, no baggage and no jealousy. But as with everything on fab it all gets a bit lost in translation and has ended up being used by people looking for a cum dump, which then puts people off. On here it's best to spell out exactly what you mean then no one can put two and two together and come up with six..... they'll probably complain your profile is too long winded instead though...sorry Ooohhh...Cum dump..Another phrase I first heard on fab and which I loathe! However it is appropriate for this thread unfortunately. I do agree that NSA means different things to different people and at the end of the day we are all consenting adults to do as we wish on fab." Hey babe, am really feeling you , will love to meet you xx | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions " I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? " Some men are just naturally so annoying and egotistical that women won't want relationships with them. | |||
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"I wouldn't mind another friend with benefits I seem to have a few but there never available lately lol" Mmm x | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there" There are a lot of men out there who feel the same. Takes me ages to shake them off sometimes. | |||
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"I think know your profile is great OP, I'm guessing the lady in question was wanting a little more than nsa. NSA to me is when you can get together, enjoy each others company, then walk away until the next time " Thank you _ady lick. I agree with your assessment completely. Shame we're not closer as looking at your profile you are exactly the type of person I'm looking to meet on here!! | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? " I don't think you are wrong when you thought that everybody is looking for NSA (well most anyway). I think where the confusion is that not everybody has your defintion of NSA. It is used by some men who are looking for a 'fuck n go' experience, so I guess that's what makes some people twitchy when the term 'nsa' is used. My advise is don't put 'nsa' on your profile, because it might be misinterpreted. And in all honesty you don't need to state the obvious - if you are using this site of course you are looking for NSA sex of some description. Mrs | |||
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"Just sent a message to a single lady introducing myself in the hope maybe something might come of it. I got rejected as my profile text states I'm looking for NSA. Apparently this means an attached bloke looking for a quick fuck?? I know NSA means no strings attached but surely single people can want this as well." When I meet I want NSA which means although I would need to like you as a person and there would need to be an attraction, any relationship we have doesn't go beyond the meet. There is no venturing into any other parts of my life or yours. | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there" That's true. I have feelings for all my lovers. But I enjoy those feelings and not let them turn into a string. It would probably be a different matter if I were single though. I have had a guy ( no longer on Fab develop what I suspected were unhealthy feelings for me, so womenare not the only ones that are capable of getting emotionally involved when it's supposed to be NSA. Mrs | |||
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"I'm not a fuck and go and keep won't meet those that are. I'm seeing a friend and benefits, not NSA / fuck buddies... there is a difference. Funny enough I find no satisfaction from a roll on wham bam thank you mam leg over and go kind of guy. A no commitment, no hassle, no expectations and stress free friendship with a guy I get on with on a semi to regular basis would be great. " This is what I'm looking for | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there" No she doesn't - most of the men I have had sex since my divorce are not remotely like relationship prospects and I would never think of them that way. | |||
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"To me it means No Strings Attached. You can become good friends, regular meet, must have feelings, I couldn't even sexually play with someone I wasn't attracted to, or had feelings..... I do care about others! To me it means I don't want marriage, not looking to have children or be responsible for picking up the pieces in your private life, paying your bills and supporting you." .....forgot to add.... Although not ruling out, long term NSA fun and friendship can still blossom into a loving relationship. Who knows! x | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there That's true. I have feelings for all my lovers. But I enjoy those feelings and not let them turn into a string." I love having elated desirous feelings for someone. It's a core part of the whole experience for me. Like you, however, I'm happy for them to just stay that, elated desirous feelings, and refrain from letting them get heavy and messy. Like you, I also think I'm only capable of this because I'm already in a relationship. It's a discipline of sorts but it's well worth it imo | |||
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"To me it means No Strings Attached. You can become good friends, regular meet, must have feelings, I couldn't even sexually play with someone I wasn't attracted to, or had feelings..... I do care about others! To me it means I don't want marriage, not looking to have children or be responsible for picking up the pieces in your private life, paying your bills and supporting you." Good point. | |||
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"NSA means that there are no ties , no requirements to stay in touch , you are free to play with others with no reprocussions , and the meet is without commitment . It doesn't mean there are no emotions involved at all though . The best meets are when all parties feel free of any baggage and can just let go . Sheer adrenaline , carnal desire , lust , passion and all that . All of this requires emotion or it isn't real . The emotion is often off the scale during the meet , but is left behind afterwards . That's NSA for us ." This. I adore being passionate off the charts. A meet can be an outlet for totally letting go, for being utterly authentically in deep lust with another, no holding back, totally there, totally theirs... but level headed enough to put it back in its box when the evening is over or the morning comes and kiss and let each other go... no strings attached | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there No she doesn't - most of the men I have had sex since my divorce are not remotely like relationship prospects and I would never think of them that way." same for me. only one guy i've met off fab was relationship material to me and he left over a year ago anyway. why does not wanting to be left used = relationship? i don't get it. | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there No she doesn't - most of the men I have had sex since my divorce are not remotely like relationship prospects and I would never think of them that way. same for me. only one guy i've met off fab was relationship material to me and he left over a year ago anyway. why does not wanting to be left used = relationship? i don't get it." Please explain this feeling babe, I thought you were using the guys cock so why would you feel the guy is leaving you after using you, this feels like vanilla but I may be wrong. | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there No she doesn't - most of the men I have had sex since my divorce are not remotely like relationship prospects and I would never think of them that way. same for me. only one guy i've met off fab was relationship material to me and he left over a year ago anyway. why does not wanting to be left used = relationship? i don't get it. Please explain this feeling babe, I thought you were using the guys cock so why would you feel the guy is leaving you after using you, this feels like vanilla but I may be wrong." I do not feel as 3sum does, but I can give you a couple of examples. The most common is deception - if someone deceives you to get what they want you feel slimed and used by that regardless. And the other is a bad attitude (callous, disrespectful or inconsiderate) - though if you talk to people long enough before meeting that usually becomes apparent so you can avoid them (unless they practice deception and are good at it). I have walked out of more than one meet when their deception became apparent, or they kept trying to bareback me when I said no. | |||
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"Very interesting topic, I am learning a lot of new things from the contributions, I honestly thought that every lady here wanted no strings attached , is there anything we can do as guys to avoid any kind of relationship expectations from the ladies we see regularly or is this impossible? By good communication and not making any assumptions I think if a lady sleeps with a guy regularly she immediately feels there is something there No she doesn't - most of the men I have had sex since my divorce are not remotely like relationship prospects and I would never think of them that way. same for me. only one guy i've met off fab was relationship material to me and he left over a year ago anyway. why does not wanting to be left used = relationship? i don't get it. Please explain this feeling babe, I thought you were using the guys cock so why would you feel the guy is leaving you after using you, this feels like vanilla but I may be wrong." i'm not even meeting, i find this way of meeting guys now highly unsatifactory. it's the same for me in the way that i don't look at any meets as potentials for relationships. i'm not stupid though and would never rule out the possibility of one (hence why i almost had one with one guy off here but i panicked coz the timing was all wrong), it's just that's not what meeting for sex is. so, i do not get why asking to be respected means that we are looking for a relationship. and to answer you're actual question you can be left feeling used in a lot of ways. i think plenty guys don't care if we're left used (and it's obvious from their very first message they don't care), and i think plenty of guys are using stupid rules so that we won't become attached to them. but out of well over 100 guys (many regular) and i only found one to be relationship material for me i don't get why men think we're wanting relationships if we don't want fuck and go? some could be friendship material. | |||
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"Just sent a message to a single lady introducing myself in the hope maybe something might come of it. I got rejected as my profile text states I'm looking for NSA. Apparently this means an attached bloke looking for a quick fuck?? I know NSA means no strings attached but surely single people can want this as well." Everyone will see it differently. Best thing is take it off your profile and just state your intentions via message..then you won't offend anyone from them.just reading your profile. I didn't think it ment emotionless but I can see why some would presieve it that way | |||
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"I'd call it NSA when you can be totally involved with someone whilst you're with them but then have no 'romantic' contact with them outside of the meet. So no expectations of further meets or sexy messaging. Also no sense of ownership or obligation over them. " Yeah that makes sense..rule 101..you'll never please everyone all the time,and trying to do so will almost certainly mean you end up being unhappy | |||
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