FabSwingers.com forum: Bi acceptable differences between males and females

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back.

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By *arkside2698Man
over a year ago

luton

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back."

I've noticed the same thing. I think girl girl is more socially acceptable than MM probably due to various things over the years. Lesbian porn is widely watched by both sexes and has been for years. Maybe when the AIDS scare hit in the 80s and was blamed mainly on gay/bi men for the spread still holds firm in some people's minds? Then again it could just be down to personal preference but if the female of a couple is bi and they state NO BI MEN it just smacks of hypocrisy to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back.

It's not necessarily hypocrisy but purely what appeals to the female.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I find female on female a turn on, I don't find guy on guy a turn on and more to the point I find it off putting so why should we meet bi guys just because we would meet bi girls?

You're acting like personal choice is a bad thing.

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By *wcwCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

Its up to the couple what they want. Why should they be questioned on what they want. Nothing to do with anyone else. I read other guys profiles to see if they fit our requiements if not no probs. i dont want to know any reasons why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

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By *ink Panther.Woman
over a year ago

Preston

I've tried explaining my preference for only wanting to be with straight men but it's difficult to put into words. I'm not sure I've ever managed to get my point across successfully but if you want me to I can try OP?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back.

why is it hypocrisy if the female is bisexual and is looking for bisexual contact with another woman but doesn't find bi male play appealing? they're completely different things...and I speak as a bi female with a bi male partner...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just put it down to personal choice. I don't have to understand it for it still to be valid..

Is disappointing though, especially as I'm only looking to explore my bi side.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

Although the first point may be true, I think there's a lot more to it than that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find female on female a turn on, I don't find guy on guy a turn on and more to the point I find it off putting so why should we meet bi guys just because we would meet bi girls?

You're acting like personal choice is a bad thing. "

You see I'm the total opposite, female on female porn does nothing for me in the slightest however guy on guy porn mmm now we are talking,

However guy on guy porn whilst there dressed as females or cd/cd or tv/tv or ts/ts now we are talking........

Work that out! Personal choice is great on this site

Mrs

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan
over a year ago

"I find female on female a turn on, I don't find guy on guy a turn on and more to the point I find it off putting so why should we meet bi guys just because we would meet bi girls?

You're acting like personal choice is a bad thing. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is hypocritical about that???

I am bi-playful so i would like to meet with a woman or a couple where the female is too

My partner is straight and neither one of us wants to meet with single bi men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I think you're all missing the point. I don't see an issue with it and personally i don't care.

I've just noticed a discrepancy with both parties being bi but one is more socially accepted whereas the other is seen as not socially acceptable.

You can take it as a strike to your personal preferences all day long if you. I just wanted to note it down and see if others have noticed it.

I think female on female sexuality is an evolutionary advantage because it makes the female more attractive in the eyes of her peers (competition) and male suitors.

Whereas male on male sexuality is seen as an evolutionary disadvantage many find the copulation discussing.

I'm a classical libertarian, i don't care about what you do as long as you're not hurting anyone (more than they want) and it's on your own time.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

Hmmm in a nutshell it is male on male buggery that is the crux of the matter..

Look at its history...thats what frightens the horses and lots of straight men..

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

I like bi men

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And I like it when a woman can keep me hard and make me cum. Does not happen much.

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By *ay2571Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'm bi. I like sex with men and women. Preferably at the same time. But happy to have them individually. Just like sometimes I want strawberry and chocolate ice cream. But whilst I like to have a relationship with women, I'm not interested in having one with a guy.

One of my friends is openly bi, he has relationships with both guys and girls and to be honest I feel sorry for him over the amount of grief he gets. There is a lot of "can't you make up your mind type stuff"

I think there is a lot of stigma attached to being bi.

As for the std argument, most guys I know who have regular sex with other guys are far more conscious about getting tested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad."

This

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad."

Yes, indeed. It's obviously fine to have a preference, but I think people should at least consider where preferences come from.

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By *ust Ms LovinWoman
over a year ago

birmingham

I think cheeky would look hot with a cock in his mouth ... but no matter what I promise him he just won't !!! Dam

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad.

Yes, indeed. It's obviously fine to have a preference, but I think people should at least consider where preferences come from. "

It seems that the preference should be "no bi play" rather than "no bi men"

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

"... beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me..."

I just spat my drink out onto my tablet here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad."

Yes I think I Would agree with this. You certainly often notice bi play among women and this seems to be more acceptable and out in the open than bi play between men. ..is it because men are more worried about not being seen as a real man? I dunno.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Then you obviously do not understand the risks involved in different type of sex.

Perhaps that is a little unfair as not all bi-men entertain anal sex and some women do.

The basic fact of the matter is anal sex involves more risk of catching a STI than vaginal sex.

Most people imagine bi-men are involved with anal sex therefore they are a higher risk group.

Swinging is about deciding what level of risk is acceptable to you and adjusting your play to fit the risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad."

I agree, but it seems to me that, slowly, there are more openly bi men on here which is encouraging (although too slow for me

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By *oungladMan
over a year ago

Burnham

Meh, I don't care so much, if a woman says something like "no bi guys" I consider it my benefit for having not met them and their antiquated sense of masculinity. I'd rather be with someone who accepts me and doubly so if they actually enjoy me being bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Then you obviously do not understand the risks involved in different type of sex.

Perhaps that is a little unfair as not all bi-men entertain anal sex and some women do.

The basic fact of the matter is anal sex involves more risk of catching a STI than vaginal sex.

Most people imagine bi-men are involved with anal sex therefore they are a higher risk group.

Swinging is about deciding what level of risk is acceptable to you and adjusting your play to fit the risk

Why not rule out every woman who has anal listed as an interest?

Or everyone who hasn't explicitly ticked "safe sex"?

Surely there are a hell of a lot of risks involved from a woman who's barebacked up the arse every weekend than someone who sucks a cock every now and then?

The lifestyle is full of people who dodge the checklists. So why not just pick the nice people and take appropriate precautions?

Perhaps it's naive, but i'm going to trust the openly bi guy over the liar if there's an sti somewhere in the picture.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By the way, that's not specifically at the post i quoted. more a geberal musing.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!

I've never had anal sex with a guy. Women? Plenty of times.

But hey, if someone's gonna find some way of being prejudiced against me then pick a card, any card. As long as it's NOT the black one...

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

Why not rule out every woman who has anal listed as an interest?

Or everyone who hasn't explicitly ticked "safe sex"?

Surely there are a hell of a lot of risks involved from a woman who's barebacked up the arse every weekend than someone who sucks a cock every now and then?

The lifestyle is full of people who dodge the checklists. So why not just pick the nice people and take appropriate precautions?

Perhaps it's naive, but i'm going to trust the openly bi guy over the liar if there's an sti somewhere in the picture."

Some do, some will not play with women who do anal, we were not asked about that, your comments have just verified what we wrote about the perception people have about bi-males and anal sex.

The risk is the anal sex not the sex of the people taking part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not rule out every woman who has anal listed as an interest?

Or everyone who hasn't explicitly ticked "safe sex"?

Surely there are a hell of a lot of risks involved from a woman who's barebacked up the arse every weekend than someone who sucks a cock every now and then?

The lifestyle is full of people who dodge the checklists. So why not just pick the nice people and take appropriate precautions?

Perhaps it's naive, but i'm going to trust the openly bi guy over the liar if there's an sti somewhere in the picture.

Some do, some will not play with women who do anal, we were not asked about that, your comments have just verified what we wrote about the perception people have about bi-males and anal sex.

The risk is the anal sex not the sex of the people taking part."

But i've never seen a profile that says "no-one that takes it up the bum"... so it's still seen as prejudice against a whole section of people for a small minded opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

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That is right they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad.

Yes, indeed. It's obviously fine to have a preference, but I think people should at least consider where preferences come from. "

But why?

I don't like cabbage but I like aubergines. I don't see any reason why I need to see a shrink about it

- Mrs. J -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad.

Yes, indeed. It's obviously fine to have a preference, but I think people should at least consider where preferences come from.

But why?

I don't like cabbage but I like aubergines. I don't see any reason why I need to see a shrink about it

- Mrs. J -"

I bet you tried a cabbage before you dismissed it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad.

Yes, indeed. It's obviously fine to have a preference, but I think people should at least consider where preferences come from.

But why?

I don't like cabbage but I like aubergines. I don't see any reason why I need to see a shrink about it

- Mrs. J -

I bet you tried a cabbage before you dismissed it"

Yes; it tasted horrible to me. Does not mean that it is a horrible vegetable. A lot of people like it but I bet they don't analyse why they like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Meh, I don't care so much, if a woman says something like "no bi guys" I consider it my benefit for having not met them and their antiquated sense of masculinity. I'd rather be with someone who accepts me and doubly so if they actually enjoy me being bi"

Well said

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

That is right they are"

But if yr practising safer sex it matters not one iota..

Would you have protected sex with someone who was hiv positive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi girls are seen as more playful. Theres no "penetration" in the conventional sense. Despite society evolving in a more liberated way a man penetrating another man in his ass s a hard concept for some to appreciate.

I think its hot though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

That is right they are

But if yr practising safer sex it matters not one iota..

Would you have protected sex with someone who was hiv positive? "

There is no absolute 'safe sex', though you are right in saying safer sex. Most people for example to not use condoms for oral sex. HIV and other STI risks still stand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back."

We have a very simple response to those types.

We say fuck em and ignore em...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bi men are seen as a higher risk in terms of STIs, that's it in a nutshell.

Bi women meet more people and have more sex so in fact thats not right at all .

Try this page Plenty more actual facts out there people ...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117877&page=1

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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago

Ashton Under Lyne

"I've noticed this while being on the site for a year. Bi-curious/sexual women is ok and peachy keen but if a man decided to explore the same thing it can mean less possible meets for him

I know when taking about differences between males and females, the harpies and their beta orbiter male drones come out to decry me.

For once, focus on the question and not the author. You throw slurs and I'll throw them back."

Double standards. This girl loves bisexual men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are not interested in bi men, just as we are not interested in straight women, plenty of choice & opportunity to not need to compromise on this....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I find female on female a turn on, I don't find guy on guy a turn on and more to the point I find it off putting so why should we meet bi guys just because we would meet bi girls?

You're acting like personal choice is a bad thing. "

this for me. Although girl on girl is only a turn on for me if equal or more than cock is involved.

And I don't agree with if a guy is bi he gets less meets.. as amongst my swinging friends I am definitely in the minority of not wanting or liking guy on guy.

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By *exyback12345Man
over a year ago

manchester

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad

It seems that the preference should be "no bi play" rather than "no bi men" "

I completely agree with the above points!

The thing is that while there is some stigma attached to bi guys, many of us play straight regularly too without feeling a need to grab any cock in close proximity. I find meets are completely situational to the people I am meeting with.

The reality is that there are so many "straight" guy profiles who approach bi or bi-curious blokes. What would people generally prefer, people being open about their fantasies, desires and sexuality or others who hide the reality?

"No bi play" would be a good solution but ultimately it does come down to people's personal preferences. If the hubby in a couple felt uncomfortable playing with someone who'd previously had a cock in heir mouth then it's unlikely to be a fulfilling meet anyway.

But then again, I am a bit of a swinging idealist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I see it a lot. I have never seen a profile specify "no bi women"

If you don't want bi play, that's fine! I play straight a lot.... a lot of bi men i'm sure can be in the proximity of a cock and not jump on it

So there seems to be some residual conditioning of what makes a man "a man" and that's sad

It seems that the preference should be "no bi play" rather than "no bi men"

I completely agree with the above points!

But then again, I am a bit of a swinging idealist

A sensible post

I don't think that anyone should dictate what another person's preference should be restricted to. Well, they can, but it is foolish to do so

We do not wish to play with single bisexual men in a threesome. It is our preference as it could be someone's preference that they do not wish to play with tall blondes; we won't suggest to them that they re-state their preference as, "tall blondes are ok as long as they cover their hair and stay on their knees"

And to suggest that people should be examining why they have a particular preference is a foolish thing to say too. Why would we want to do that anyway when we know that we find the idea of man-on-man sex a sexual turn-off

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