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"Im curious as most guys say they like playing dom yet don't they tend to take control abit and play rough but that's it there is never any proper dom sub play. Is there any actual doms around " I have just moved to Birmingham with experience being a Dom..i like to take total control of subs total sex life and must seek my permission for any sexual activity Like the sound of that? | |||
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"Do you discuss with them what you want? They aren't psychic. Dom can be many different things to different people. Rough sex can be dom for some. For others it might be very extreme stuff. Bit daft to expect someone to know what you want then bitch about them for not knowing what scale you're on. " ^ this! Everyones wants and definitions are different, if you're expecting to meet someone and them just to slot into that Role without getting to know each other then you're bound to be disappointed | |||
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"Unfortunately there are a lot of dim doms about who think being a Dom is just about being rough in the bedroom and doing what THEY want without any thought to the wants and needs of the person they are playing with, when in fact it's quite the opposite. A genuine Dom will take time to listen to you and your needs and play accordingly building trust and respect in BOTH directions. There are of course going to be plenty of both types on a site like this, the key is sorting out who is which." I don't think this is the correct site to find a genuine Dom (or Domme, for that matter), there are far better ones out there. As pointed out, the key is to being able to differentiate between those who can only talk the talk but who have no idea how to walk the walk. The subs truly hold the power in a D/s relationship, they hand over control, which of course, they can rescind at any time. Any guy can call a woman names whilst roughing her up demanding sex, but that only makes him an idiot and not a Dom. | |||
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" i learned a long time ago not to bother looking for anything BDSM on the internet. it's seems to be selfish people with the wrong idea of what the other person wants (ie. they want nothing but to do what they want)..." Word | |||
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"Unfortunately there are a lot of dim doms about who think being a Dom is just about being rough in the bedroom and doing what THEY want without any thought to the wants and needs of the person they are playing with, when in fact it's quite the opposite. A genuine Dom will take time to listen to you and your needs and play accordingly building trust and respect in BOTH directions. There are of course going to be plenty of both types on a site like this, the key is sorting out who is which. I don't think this is the correct site to find a genuine Dom (or Domme, for that matter), there are far better ones out there. As pointed out, the key is to being able to differentiate between those who can only talk the talk but who have no idea how to walk the walk. The subs truly hold the power in a D/s relationship, they hand over control, which of course, they can rescind at any time. Any guy can call a woman names whilst roughing her up demanding sex, but that only makes him an idiot and not a Dom. " Totally agree that this isn't the best site to look for a Dom/me although there are some here, there are plenty of better options out there for sure where it's more likely to come across the right sort of person | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. " That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. " | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. " not if the submissive person wants that too. | |||
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"Im curious as most guys say they like playing dom yet don't they tend to take control abit and play rough but that's it there is never any proper dom sub play. Is there any actual doms around " They've watched 50 shades so they think they're an expert | |||
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"Im curious as most guys say they like playing dom yet don't they tend to take control abit and play rough but that's it there is never any proper dom sub play. Is there any actual doms around " I'm brilliant at being dom if you give me a chance I can chase you around the bed room dressed as a squirrel while shouting "HELLO, I'M ON THE PHONE' | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. " | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. " Excuse me!! Telling someone when they can pee or not is abuse. This is against women's rights!! No way would any man tell me what to do sexually or other!!! | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Excuse me!! Telling someone when they can pee or not is abuse. This is against women's rights!! No way would any man tell me what to do sexually or other!!! " I'm not sure if you're serious or not but against the will of someone would be violating human rights. Hate to expose you to BDSM but toilet control/ forced wetting is a lot more common a kink than you'd like to think . It's not one of mine but I've came across women who wanted that level of domination. Different strokes for different folks. I had a sub that wanted total power exchange. I couldn't offer that. For me a little BDSM is a fun little pass time between consenting adults. There's no list of do's and donts only what is pleasurable to the participants. Personally I treat domming as an extension of roleplay and for that reason don't consider myself a true dom at all but a more than capable one if the mood arises with the right person | |||
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"Domination is mental aspect. Rough sex is physical aspect." I find the mind control very exciting, it's not about rough all the time, the restraint the tease, the submission of the sub, pushing their boundaries the limits of their sexual comfort zone. Anyone can turn up & be rough, verbally abusive & some people do enjoy this, but some women enjoy the submission of their will, handing control, total control to a trusted companion. Pushing how far they go in public exhibitionism & exposure. Knowing they're doing it to please they're dominating other. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. not if the submissive person wants that too." | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... " | |||
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"Are there Dom exams? Is there a way of assessing and approving a Dom by a set of criteria to ensure their proficient? There aren't so simply pulling out the same old tripe about " you're not a Dom", "seen fifty shades" "dim Dom" etc is all just an opinion. As many state the Dom should understand the sub so the sub... and the sub has the biggest opinion on whether they feel dommed. If they do then they are submissive to a Dom, whether that dom has just finished watching fifty shades, been at "it", whatever "it" is, for years or picked up their first cane five minutes ago. I find the regurgitation of all this nonesense about who is and who isn't laughable. When can someone call themselves a Dom? What does a Dom do to be able to call themselves that? What experience does a Dom need? Whose opinion counts? " 100% this. I used to be in the gentle dom category, which to some people made me not a dom. I found my sadistic side but I still joke about and laugh with my sibs even during a scene. So again... not a dom. As I said earlier my only concern are the people who use it as an outlet for abuse. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's an abusive relationship, not a Dom. " | |||
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"The impression I get from many men is - Being a Dom means they can fuck as selfishly as they like, ignore you when you say I don't really like that and be rough, pin you down, slap your arse. All because women love that 50 shades shit and that is how it's done in the books, right? Not really, no. " It takes a certain kind of man to be a real dom ... I'd be running in the opposite direction from the guys your talking about | |||
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"The impression I get from many men is - Being a Dom means they can fuck as selfishly as they like, ignore you when you say I don't really like that and be rough, pin you down, slap your arse. All because women love that 50 shades shit and that is how it's done in the books, right? Not really, no. " I don't I see the word "Dom" with a capital D and instantly think "wanker". I like a bit of rough sex where I am submissive. But I'm submissive sexually ... I'm nobody's sub. V x | |||
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"The impression I get from many men is - Being a Dom means they can fuck as selfishly as they like, ignore you when you say I don't really like that and be rough, pin you down, slap your arse. All because women love that 50 shades shit and that is how it's done in the books, right? Not really, no. It takes a certain kind of man to be a real dom ... I'd be running in the opposite direction from the guys your talking about " That exactly why I don't let men Dom me! I've tried to see both sides of the D/s but all my experiences have been negative really! | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... " this is the proper definition,so few realise this .the sub is the one with the true control the dom paints an illusion of control while helping the sub to push their bounderies in a controlled,safe environment but at no time every completely relinquishing the control . | |||
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"and as a woman i hate what 50 shade of grey have done i think men read it and then think every single woman must want .. worse pile of shit ever wrote " 50 shades of black is hillarious ... u should try and watch that | |||
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"I wonder how many times this subject has or will be posted ? Being a dom isn't all about rough or all about 50 shades and a true sub will understand that. Just as a true dom will understand that subs have needs, requirements and wishes also. That's part of the role/scenario that most 50 shaders fail to realise! A dom/sub scenario is exactly that mutual needs and satisfaction. Understand the mind and using it to mutual satisfaction in whatever form is what it's all about?? Shame the OP has blocked all males though ?? But that's my view on it and fortunately I've not had any complaints as to my methods " We're starting to explore the whole Dom/sub but have not found that rough play comes into it much ? That's more role play for us ? But teasing and not letting her have control seems to hit the spot especially in public ? Don't know if we're going in the right direction but enjoying the experience | |||
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"Unfortunately there are a lot of dim doms about who think being a Dom is just about being rough in the bedroom and doing what THEY want without any thought to the wants and needs of the person they are playing with, when in fact it's quite the opposite. A genuine Dom will take time to listen to you and your needs and play accordingly building trust and respect in BOTH directions. There are of course going to be plenty of both types on a site like this, the key is sorting out who is which." | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. " Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. | |||
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"i think a lot more people should experiment in relationships before moving onto NSA stuff when it comes to this. then they'd actually know the person and get that it's all about what both of you want. if you notice most sub guys also expect to be used, not really my idea of a sub and more like they're passing on responsibility for their sex life to someone who doesn't really know them or what they want. i learned a long time ago not to bother looking for anything BDSM on the internet. it's seems to be selfish people with the wrong idea of what the other person wants (ie. they want nothing but to do what they want)...which is right in a way (because you need to be compatible) but approaching someone like they have no needs at all isn't right at all. i'd say if you have BDSM needs don't mention domme/sub or any of the 'buzz words', just describe what you actually want and leave it to guys to be compatible with that." | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. " Which is your view (just cos you were last to post) but the next will have their view and the next.... so the dim Dom, untested Dom, newbie Dom or fifty year experienced Dom may have a different approach and the sub may similarly have yet another .... none is wrong none is right.... it's nonesense! | |||
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"Unfortunately no not all. The majority think that tying you up, blindfolding you, hard fucking and spanking your arse consists of being 'a Dominant' it is not this. Being a Dominant is so much more...the welfare of their submissive... the consistancy of communication throughout play, and after,(aftercare in abundance, its not an option it is a MUST!)every day life is imperative and is unfortunately usually overlooked. Unfortunately a certain book has led Men (and woman) who want to dabble in Dominance and submission that this is how it's should be. Research, communication and taking you're time is the best advice that I can give to both Dominants and submissives or at least those who want to dip their toes into this lifestyle " | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. " You got it in one. I am sub but not looking for a dom. Because I am lucky lady to found my top on here with out looking. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. " that's basically the sub being selfish. when did relationships just revolve around one persons needs and wants? | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. " Ignorance bud..think not ..ive had subs that want to be well I wont be able to post...im aware of what there wanting ..im being what THEY ask for.. ..had one once that cum when I spat in her face..in public....yr ov a dom with ya wife..who u want to love and care for of course. ..im dom to many women that want many things...not ignorance ..fact. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. that's basically the sub being selfish. when did relationships just revolve around one persons needs and wants?" you don't get it by giving through taking control the tops need for control is sated , i have a sadistic streak that can be indulged by not only impact play and other pain related fun but also by pleasure over doses or edging ,both can sated my sadistic side . both are highly pleasurable for a sub and to someone who doesn't understand the need of a top to have control would see such acts as selfish one way actions but they are not. you see I choose I can give or not give just like any sub. i can stop play at any minute and just like a sub stopping play i expect to be respected if i choose to not play or stop play .( this is how i normally punish as i like pain queens so impact play can not be viewed as punishment but with holding topping is ) i don't top just anyone the number of woman I've topped in my life is under 20 I'm no swinger intimacy and toping go hand in hand for me so unless i feel a connection to a sub i will not top her . taking on a sub is a commitment in my world and i only play with subs who think taking on a top is a commitment also . | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. that's basically the sub being selfish. when did relationships just revolve around one persons needs and wants? you don't get it by giving through taking control the tops need for control is sated , i have a sadistic streak that can be indulged by not only impact play and other pain related fun but also by pleasure over doses or edging ,both can sated my sadistic side . both are highly pleasurable for a sub and to someone who doesn't understand the need of a top to have control would see such acts as selfish one way actions but they are not. you see I choose I can give or not give just like any sub. i can stop play at any minute and just like a sub stopping play i expect to be respected if i choose to not play or stop play .( this is how i normally punish as i like pain queens so impact play can not be viewed as punishment but with holding topping is ) i don't top just anyone the number of woman I've topped in my life is under 20 I'm no swinger intimacy and toping go hand in hand for me so unless i feel a connection to a sub i will not top her . taking on a sub is a commitment in my world and i only play with subs who think taking on a top is a commitment also . " but basically that comment looked like everything revolves around the sub. the last paragraph was half decent, although i personally don't believe someone should be your everything, but everything else selfish from the subs POV. which is kind of weird coz they was acting like a dom having total control is abusive. | |||
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"Its a difficult question isn't it, surely the definition of Dom/Sub is down the person in that particular role. Some will see enjoying spanking as being submissive, but others are more in tune to the mental element of control rather than the physical element. So personally, the mental is just as important as the physical, and the physical isn't necessarily rough sex. That said, rough sex may be part of it. herein lies the problem, I don't think that there is one definition of this sort of relationship. I think the only certainty, is that it has to be discussed before it is engaged in so that both parties are sure that their definitions are compatible, and that they both get what they want from the experience. I consider myself naturally dominant, and have engaged in it on a number of different levels, and no experience is the same, because of the definition issue. What is difficult however is when ones idea is wildly different to the other, however, this just comes down to compatibility. Well thats my two pence worth, no doubt some will disagree and some will agree, and that is what makes it all part of the fun i guess." | |||
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"I would never claim to be a Dom (nor, to be honest, would I want to be) however, I do have a preference for submissive women. I prefer to take the lead when it comes to sex - but this does not make me a dom." And at least you are honest and can tell the difference between being a Dom and being assertive in the bedroom. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. " That's not a sub, that's a slave. There's a lot of difference between Master/slave & Dom/sub. Master/slave is a 24/7 lifestyle, Dom/sub isn't. And that will also differ depending on what type of sub she is. | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... this is the proper definition,so few realise this .the sub is the one with the true control the dom paints an illusion of control while helping the sub to push their bounderies in a controlled,safe environment but at no time every completely relinquishing the control ." ^^ This | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... this is the proper definition,so few realise this .the sub is the one with the true control the dom paints an illusion of control while helping the sub to push their bounderies in a controlled,safe environment but at no time every completely relinquishing the control . ^^ This " Spot on... If anyone wants to learn, this is a good accurate summary.... But there's plenty of resource available on the web. I learn new things every day | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... this is the proper definition,so few realise this .the sub is the one with the true control the dom paints an illusion of control while helping the sub to push their bounderies in a controlled,safe environment but at no time every completely relinquishing the control . ^^ This Spot on... If anyone wants to learn, this is a good accurate summary.... But there's plenty of resource available on the web. I learn new things every day " glad you think so! I wanted to say so much more but I thought I best cap it at that lol | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. That's not a sub, that's a slave. There's a lot of difference between Master/slave & Dom/sub. Master/slave is a 24/7 lifestyle, Dom/sub isn't. And that will also differ depending on what type of sub she is." We live a 24/7 D/s dynamic. It's entirely possible. Kink is as varied as the people involved. There are no 'rules', just the ones the people involved agree too. If everyone is happy with the set up, enjoy. It's only a problem when there's a lack of communication or one partner is deceptive about their intentions. | |||
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"I've had 2 subs in the past.... I can't domme just anyone. I need to have a certain spark with that person for that. It's not a generic script for all! Anyone can be rough in the bedroom.... but that isn't dominating someone.. Dominating someone to me is pushing their boundaries while being RESPECTFUL of their limits. A sub is in control ultimately. A real Dom/me will know this. This is vital to know for more extreme play like CBT, breath play etc. If you don't know your subs limits you are entering dangerous territory! When I've played with my subs, I don't do everything at once.... I'll concentrate on 2/3 aspects of domination. Say spanking, sensory deprivation and orgasm denial. Then you can really get to know what your sub likes and work on that and things that stem from it... so your sub likes spanking, they might like other aspects of sensation play... EXPERIMENT! The main thing I've learnt with my experience of it is if you can dominate someone's mind, their body will follow. One negative experience for a sub will have a massive impact on that persons boundaries. I would never meet someone and dominate them straight away.... " More or less exactly what I was going to say . Mike and I are quite a rarity we've found (happy to be proven wrong) but we are a dominant couple and both enjoy building a relationship with our subs, one of which I've owned for 7 years. Their pleasure is a must for us and we have to have that spark between all of us otherwise the relationship doesn't work. it's also a caring relationship where you look after the interests of the other person, you want to push them but never cause them emotional or physical scaring that won't heal. We've found it a problem finding true subs though. We get lots of messages, mainly from men, claiming to be sub and the first gentle instruction you give them they rebel against. Waste of our time and also why we always have several social meets and gentle play sessions before we even attempt anything more hard core. A true sub, like a true dom/me has to have the mind set for it and understand what it means to them and each other. Our subs are treated very differently because they have very different needs. | |||
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" Too many people describe how they want to be treated or how they want to treat people and call it "real" or "proper" d/s. " So true. Every single thread on Fab about the subject is like this. | |||
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"my dom is a true one I cant cum till he says and if I do I get punished he is not one of the soft ones I even have my tea out of a dog bowl and get fucked after that's if I say please" oh purleese...... | |||
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"The sub has the safe word....? Does that not show the sub has control? I use the amber and red system.... even pushing my first sub to an amber was enough for me.... my limits as a domme were pushed by doing something we had talked about (electro-urethral sounds) that he wanted and I had never done. There is a fine line between pain that's pleasurable and pain that hurts... so I always gauge pain threshold before ANYTHING. Go in too hard too quickly and the sub will safe word very quickly, but if you take the time to build up they probably won't safe word at all. This is what I find the case to be with spanking... so many people can't do it properly and I've heard about so many negative experiences from people thinking it's all about pain when it's really not! But I guess it boils down to what both consenting adults want from it and that's the beauty of a D/s relationship.... there are no text book answers to what it should be, you tailor it To suit the needs and wants of everyone involved " To me the safe word is not a matter of control but of agreed boundaries. In the same way if a sub asks a dom to do something that was out of the dom's boundaries and the dom refuses does that mean the dom is in control? I don't think so, likewise nor is the sub in control. The safe word does not make a sub secure, knowing your dom will respect your use of the safeword gives security. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Excuse me!! Telling someone when they can pee or not is abuse. This is against women's rights!! No way would any man tell me what to do sexually or other!!! " This proves a point that the wants and needs to each individual sub is different, some subs will give over complete control whilst others will have boundaries that must be respected by the dom. I am dominant and have respect for my sub. I am also a switch so submissive myself. Being told what to do in EVERY aspect of my life for mutual gratification does appeal to me in exchange for being looked after aswell and that's the key looking after and taking care with mutual consent and boundaries. | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Excuse me!! Telling someone when they can pee or not is abuse. This is against women's rights!! No way would any man tell me what to do sexually or other!!! This proves a point that the wants and needs to each individual sub is different, some subs will give over complete control whilst others will have boundaries that must be respected by the dom. I am dominant and have respect for my sub. I am also a switch so submissive myself. Being told what to do in EVERY aspect of my life for mutual gratification does appeal to me in exchange for being looked after aswell and that's the key looking after and taking care with mutual consent and boundaries." | |||
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"I worry about the wannabes spoiling it for the rest of us, but more than that I worry for the women who trust a fool to look after them only to be hurt (physically or mentally) in the process. So many on here I suspect have no idea at all how to engage and look after a sub... Mine put me on probation before deciding I was capable. That was tough to deal with, but I respect her more for it. My probation is over and we are having a great time now. My collar looks beautiful on her too !!!" Good for her ( meant in the nicest way of course) .... so many 'wannabe Dominants' don't understand the power that a submissive has... I'm so happy for you both | |||
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"Im curious as most guys say they like playing dom yet don't they tend to take control abit and play rough but that's it there is never any proper dom sub play. Is there any actual doms around " The 'I've read 50 Shades of Grey, so I know what I'm doing wannabees. The bane of our lives! Yes, there are real Doms here. Drop us a message... | |||
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"And in truth most women r only sub in bedroom....lol tho not at mine they sub all time...or there not a sub.... Sub....being told what to do. Being told what to wear Being told when too piss Being told when to eat Being TOLD .....ie a sub. Wow!!! Such ignorance....that is not a D/s relationship....at best and i mean at best loosely.. its a slave relationship and at worse an abusive one A Dom/sub relationship really isnt like that abd i do feel sorry for any woman you meet if that truely is your attitude. D/s relationships are nurturing and caring it is the Doms duty to ensure the sub is taken care of, looked after, protected from harm and that especially includes in certain aspects and scenarios. Its the Dom learning the sub, how her body reacts to certain stimuli, they learn the subs limits and take them to the edge and keeping them in a state of ecstasy whilst satisfying their control needs.... Its a balance not a dick-tatorship! Its treating her like she is your world and she will repay you with the same... Communication, trust and the ability to learn! A good Dom never stops learning, never stops learning how to be a better Dom to bring out the best in his sub. " Exactly! My Sir describes it as being two sides of the same coin. One can't exist without the other. | |||
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"Im curious as most guys say they like playing dom yet don't they tend to take control abit and play rough but that's it there is never any proper dom sub play. Is there any actual doms around " Doms take many guises... all depends on each dom/sub needs and desires i like pysc and role play but can do that 24/7 where some people are just looking for a guy that rough so just as theres alot of people saying they are a dom who have no idea the same also goes for submissives. Catch 22 im afraid x | |||
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