FabSwingers.com forum: Relationship seeker

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

How hard is it to find a relationship never mind a swinging one! You'd think it would be every mans dream to have a gf who didn't mind them fucking others with permission of course and vice versa but no. I've tried everything, looking for one, not looking for one, letting things happen on their own, normal dating sites, this site etc but Jesus as a single parent I don't have the time or the spare cash to socialise all the time and meet new people. All friends are married off or living with someone so the circle of friends who I could socialise with has all but gone. I came on here initially for the fun but soon decided I'm looking for more. You'd think a swingers site would present me with such people but all I seem to be doing is adding notches to my bedpost..........can't decide What I want now. Don't get me wrong I'm happy in my life but think I'd like to be part of a relationship or would I?

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I know where you're coming from!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Anyone in a swinging relationship? How did you find it?? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I know where you're coming from!"

You in a similar boat?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I changed my profile this week to seek similar to what u mention and I've had nothing.

What I have had.. is loads of guys claiming to want the same then asking me revolting sexual questions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know where you're coming from!

You in a similar boat? "

I also cant see why?

Id love a relationship like that and is what im looking for

And why not?

Both of you get to have your cake and eat it as well

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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i'm not fucking anyone.

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

also i'm not a swinger so maybe ignore me, i don't wanna swinging relationship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know where you're coming from!

You in a similar boat? "

Me too! Hard as f**k

Give up now...if it happens it happens.

And just for the record if I even gave the tiniest hint to guys I've dated (away from fab, not that I date from fab..) that I'm more than your girl next door...well I can see their ass running over the hill. Makes the feel inferior maybe? I don't know but they do not like it one bit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally get what you are saying! I am in exactly the same place as you x

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I know where you're coming from!

You in a similar boat? "

Yeah,I would like to find someone who's open to this lifestyle further down the line. Actually I'd love to find a bisexual guy actually,because I'm not sure whether I would be happy seeing him with another woman,but I love bi mmf.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone in a swinging relationship? How did you find it?? Lol"

I wish

I'd be happy with a vanilla relationship, now issue with leaving Fab for the right woman, but if I could find a kinky bisexual swinging lady that would be perfect.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

We are and met on here

We weren't looking it just happened op

Be upfront on your profile,i think many on here are open minded to a relationship

Good luck xx

Miss

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By *igboobstCouple
over a year ago

barrow

We met on a vanilla dating site but talked for ages on line before we met, so we knew ours could be a swinging relationship well before we were together properly. But took us both a long time to find each other. Good luck

Dan &T xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I changed my profile this week to seek similar to what u mention and I've had nothing.

What I have had.. is loads of guys claiming to want the same then asking me revolting sexual questions. "

Same. they all full of shit. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't on here. Put nothing on profile and you spend all your time answering the same boring questions. Put loads of detail and they have all the ammunition to tell you exactly what you want to hear

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman
over a year ago

stourbridge area

Id settle for a vanilla relationship ......fab isnt my life.... id just like to.meet a decent fella .....who isnt a fab freek ..... form an orderly queue

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

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By *cunnylassCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

We met about 18 months ago on Fab and we swing together now...

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment. "

not really, i get that swinging is fucking other people. if you're only fucking your partner then you're monogamous, if not then you're a swinger. there might be other stuff involved but that's the basic requirements.

why i mentioned that is because i'm talking about relationships, and why would someone want a relationship with a person who had already given them what they wanted and they can get the same thing from others?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Your question only makes sense if the only thing men get from a relationship is sex.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

I understand what you're saying 3sum and I agree,but I did meet a guy once from here who wanted more knowing that I want a relationship well a couple actually,unfortunately I didn't want more from them

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

That's after having already had sex I mean!

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By *l4yerMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

In case any women are looking through this thread, I am certainly looking for more than a one off.

Would be happy to have a regular normal relationship with the right woman and happy to swing as a couple with others.

I'm not holding my breath though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It really would be great! Maybe it would be good as a "looking for" option?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How hard is it to find a relationship never mind a swinging one! You'd think it would be every mans dream to have a gf who didn't mind them fucking others with permission of course and vice versa but no. I've tried everything, looking for one, not looking for one, letting things happen on their own, normal dating sites, this site etc but Jesus as a single parent I don't have the time or the spare cash to socialise all the time and meet new people. All friends are married off or living with someone so the circle of friends who I could socialise with has all but gone. I came on here initially for the fun but soon decided I'm looking for more. You'd think a swingers site would present me with such people but all I seem to be doing is adding notches to my bedpost..........can't decide What I want now. Don't get me wrong I'm happy in my life but think I'd like to be part of a relationship or would I?

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

I'm having the same problem here, it's not easy is it

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By *aveandkate35Couple
over a year ago

telford

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

For us the relationship came first, then the swinging later. We've often discussed how difficult it would be now to start with someone new, as for us, it would be part of a new relationship.

We feel your pain. I guess there's not a lot you can do, apart from obviously do what you're doing. You seem to be doing everything I would. Love your honest profile.

We are open to extending our relationship to another make, but in 5 years that's only even got semi close once. Again you'd think there'd be more uptake!

Good luck. You never know what tomorrow brings.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

Honestly im surprised. As a man I spent the best part of 5 years trying to find a woman I wanted to both marry and was open to an ethnically non-monogamous marriage. I didn't realise women would have the same problem. It took a lot of having drinks thrown at me on dates and awkward breakups with girlfriends who tried it but didn't like it. Totally worth it in the end though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found love on Fab!

At a swinging party, lived together 2yr normal monogamous relationship.......but due to mis trust it sadly ended.....we are still friends without the benefits, but both have new single profiles now.

Sadly he got bitter when he found my profile, read my verifications of other guys and was really mean to me......but guess he was jealous as he wasn't having much luck as a single guy.

I've had to go really under cover now only able to show my feet as he knows every inch of my body.

Just being discreet for an easy life as he lives Local to me, but it is possible and I'm seeking the same again !

Good luck, keep the hope x

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

That's after having already had sex I mean!"

i've had a few men open to relationships myself, with me apparently. thing is if i refuse (and i have every time except twice) they easily find someone else to have a swinging relationship with within a very short time. this leads me to believe they only wanted someone to give them access to couples wives, which is another topic i guess but it's all made me very cynical.

the other 2, one left the site 6 months later when he found someone else for a relationship (i was open to being with him and liked him a lot, but then i found out he was already seeing someone and guessing off his overall actions he was using this site to find someone else behind her back). he wasn't a swinger.

the other kept ignoring me and messing me about and was just keeping his options open in case he couldn't find someone else. it was him who brought up the relationship thing firstly as well.

anyway, main thing is i'm not fucking anyone any more coz, even though it'd fulfil my sexual needs while waiting/looking for a relationship, it means i focus more on looking for someone and not for sex but for everything i want for a relationship.

good sex would be a nice start -and is how all my other relationships came to be but, in this day and age where people are easily disposable and replaceable, it's not possible to do it like any more. it doesn't work coz it's easy for someone to fuck you then fuck off to someone else.

i'm not looking for a relationship on here either, this place is pretty much toxic for single people looking for a relationship for a whole host of reasons. and there are non-swinging people looking for relationships, single guys or in relationships, but if they are looking for one on here i would 100% class them as not relationship material for that reason because of the toxicity of this place and what it encourages.

no offence to fabswingers, true swingers are not the toxic. it is mainly liars and easy people that make this place so, when it comes to forging relationships.

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By *obert RichardsMan
over a year ago

Surrey

I'm open to the idea in future but at the moment I'm just looking to play xx

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Your question only makes sense if the only thing men get from a relationship is sex. "

again, not really.

everyone is here for sex, pretty much everyone anyway. most people here are kinky, have high sex drives,or want something other than the ordinary vanilla sex life that most other people are fine with.

it's how people are approaching others in the first place, with sex as the goal. nothing else, just sex initially.

relationships aren't only sex, you are correct. but if people are approaching you looking for the ideal sex life and it doesn't suit or others can give them that then what do you really have to offer that others cannot fulfil in your place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, absolute kudos to you for your honesty. It's a tough ask on this site for both men and women. There's probably just as many men facing your predicament, but sadly these are outnumbered by those after that quick fix. Plus vice versa I should add. My experience was, I came on this site to explore my Sapiosexual nature, however, that proved more challenging than expected. Luckily, stumbled across someone in a different environment who happened to be on this site. We now do our own thing but secure in the knowledge, there's always a deeper connection away from the trappings and enticements of clubs and various holiday locations. I think with swinging and relationships there's a huge level of honesty/trust with yourself and the other person which transcends many vanilla relationships. It's hard to find but all I say is keep enjoying the journey and hopefully stay positive and who knows you might find that special person you're after. Don't give up, oh and vent as much as you like! Great profile and pics btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Your question only makes sense if the only thing men get from a relationship is sex.

again, not really.

it's how people are approaching others in the first place, with sex as the goal. nothing else, just sex initially.

I don't really understand the question, not trying to be difficult.

Sex is an important part of a relationship but for most men they also want the following from a relationship:

- Someone they can have good conversations with

- Someone they have shared values with / companionship

- Someone they can do some joint non-sexual activities with

So why would a man want a relationship with a woman they had already fucked? So they could also do the above with the lady concerned.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i'm not fucking anyone.

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

also i'm not a swinger so maybe ignore me, i don't wanna swinging relationship."

This is me too

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By *r BrightonMan
over a year ago

brighton

Same here but being bi sexual makes it even harder to find a genuine lady who would accept me for what I am ??

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"I don't really understand the question, not trying to be difficult.

Sex is an important part of a relationship but for most men they also want the following from a relationship:

- Someone they can have good conversations with

- Someone they have shared values with / companionship

- Someone they can do some joint non-sexual activities with

So why would a man want a relationship with a woman they had already fucked? So they could also do the above with the lady concerned. "

Ok, lemme explain clearer. you can use the forums for this...

just have a look at the forum topics, what are they about? do you see any bonding topics that are deep and meaningful or does this site pretty much use the social facilities to talk about sex?

i know what i see, the occasional slightly deep topics, started by the same few people usually, and mostly topics about sex, what they like physically ans aesthetically. and that's about how deep this site is.

probably the deeper people avoid this place for that reason? but from personal experience, and public via the forums/chat rooms all i see is people only focused on sex, or mainly for that.

even in the more social topics all people do is flirt and make sex jokes also. there isn't anything much deeper going on and maybe that's how some relationships start in private, (friendships as well as more) and i'd certainly like to hope so and have seen some evidence of that too, but basically people are only approaching others with sex in mind, even if they chat as friends they are mostly focused on the ones they want to fuck.

you might do this differently, i've not seen you in the forums before so wouldn't know. and i do know others certainly do develop more than the shallow stuff i have experienced, but mainly this place is not offering what relationships are based on according to what you say and my own personal thoughts on what a relationship should be.

hope that's clearer?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I don't really understand the question, not trying to be difficult.

Sex is an important part of a relationship but for most men they also want the following from a relationship:

- Someone they can have good conversations with

- Someone they have shared values with / companionship

- Someone they can do some joint non-sexual activities with

So why would a man want a relationship with a woman they had already fucked? So they could also do the above with the lady concerned.

Ok, lemme explain clearer. you can use the forums for this...

just have a look at the forum topics, what are they about? do you see any bonding topics that are deep and meaningful or does this site pretty much use the social facilities to talk about sex?

probably the deeper people avoid this place for that reason? but from personal experience, and public via the forums/chat rooms all i see is people only focused on sex, or mainly for that.

hope that's clearer?"

So if i've understood correctly, your point is more that:

A) The OP isn't likely to find a relationship on fab for the reasons stated,

As opposed to

B) Having already fucked a guy, he isn't likely to want a relationship afterwards?

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"So if i've understood correctly, your point is more that:

A) The OP isn't likely to find a relationship on fab for the reasons stated,

As opposed to

B) Having already fucked a guy, he isn't likely to want a relationship afterwards? "

no opposition, it's for both reasons, and maybe more i haven't thought of.

it's nothing to do with having sex but more that anyone can offer sex AND that is the main focus for meeting/approaching someone off here.

the caps isn't shouting, there is no way to use italics coding here.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"So if i've understood correctly, your point is more that:

A) The OP isn't likely to find a relationship on fab for the reasons stated,

As opposed to

B) Having already fucked a guy, he isn't likely to want a relationship afterwards?

no opposition, it's for both reasons, and maybe more i haven't thought of.

it's nothing to do with having sex but more that anyone can offer sex AND that is the main focus for meeting/approaching someone off here.

the caps isn't shouting, there is no way to use italics coding here."

But most men don't want to be perpetually single, at some point they are going to want the parts of a relationship other than sex.

I fail to see why you assume they would assign no value to what the OP has to offer in those areas. This would be my reason why someone who started as a FWB might not want to progress to a boyfriend? As i said, previously i was in that position.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"So if i've understood correctly, your point is more that:

A) The OP isn't likely to find a relationship on fab for the reasons stated,

As opposed to

B) Having already fucked a guy, he isn't likely to want a relationship afterwards?

no opposition, it's for both reasons, and maybe more i haven't thought of.

it's nothing to do with having sex but more that anyone can offer sex AND that is the main focus for meeting/approaching someone off here.

the caps isn't shouting, there is no way to use italics coding here.

But most men don't want to be perpetually single, at some point they are going to want the parts of a relationship other than sex.

i'm not saying she has nothing to offer, or that anyone has nothing to offer.

it's more that what people value is not what people actually have to offer. for many valid reasons other than they are choosy.

most of the guys i have met are not single, i'm sure they don't want to be either, but their partner did not know they was on here. again another topic maybe but it's another reason why i wouldn't seek a relationship on here.

there are actually plenty of people who enjoy the single life and the way that a place like fab would allow them to have some of their more basic needs fulfilled and i can get why they wouldn't be looking for anything much more than sex. but pretty much all people here approach others for sex initially or interact with them in a mildly sexual way as a way to become 'friends' or whatever. nothing wrong with that but you will rule out a lot of more suitable relationship candidates by doing so.

also, just looking for a relationship and being compatible on a deeper level is complicated, not sure if that is another reason why OP (and anyone else) is failing to find what they want but it's something else to consider, yes.

of course it's possible to find what you want, i just ruled this place out from my own personal experiences, and i haven't been looking for a relationship since i joined almost 3 years ago, but the past 10 months i have been but also not with anyone on here, i was still fucking guys off here but now i've decided that also isn't helping me as i'm not focused on the right guys or on myself and it's important now i focus on myself as i keep falling for dickheads and i am the problem here so need to work out why. this is subjective to myself and might help others think about the best way for themselves to find a partner, that's all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It took a lot of having drinks thrown at me on dates and awkward breakups with girlfriends who tried it but didn't like it."

Made me giggle, my boyfriend's had a trail of dissatisfied dates whose agenda or understanding of non-monogamy didn't fit with his (already discussed) reality!

OP the more your requirements or expectations from a relationship the harder it is to find a suitable partner. I have seen a lot of people who say they want a relationship but stay single because they are unyielding in their "wishlist" in a way that makes pairing up highly unlikely. Identify what your absolute deal breakers are, keep these minimal. Negotiate the rest of the stuff. When going for a good fit, think mitten not glove :P

Having said all that, anybody looking for a lover or long-term partner has my sympathies - you really do have to churn through a lot of strangers and get exposed to all sorts of energies, it can be a drain.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"It took a lot of having drinks thrown at me on dates and awkward breakups with girlfriends who tried it but didn't like it.

Made me giggle, my boyfriend's had a trail of dissatisfied dates whose agenda or understanding of non-monogamy didn't fit with his (already discussed) reality!

I find it mind boggling how many people are willing to engage in mass delusion before getting married. To my knowledge there are 4 major studies on infidelity and all put the number of people that will cheat at some point in a marriage between 60-70%.

My personal experience is that:

1) This comes as a major shock to most women

2) They are usually unwilling to reconsider any of their attitudes based on it

3) Would be happy enough to be blissfully ignorant of their husband cheating but completely unwilling to incorporate it into the relationship

Likewise most men seem to give little consideration to whether they can really be satisfied only having sex with one more woman for the rest of their life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I don't think I know what I want any more,if I ever have someone cheating on me again I'll be doing time!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I don't think I know what I want any more,if I ever have someone cheating on me again I'll be doing time!"

Ever thought of cheating together (i.e. swinging)?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"I don't think I know what I want any more,if I ever have someone cheating on me again I'll be doing time!

Ever thought of cheating together (i.e. swinging)? "

I still need to find someone to cheat together with

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"I don't think I know what I want any more,if I ever have someone cheating on me again I'll be doing time!

Ever thought of cheating together (i.e. swinging)?

I still need to find someone to cheat together with "

Where were all these single women wanting swinging relationships when i was single!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Behind every great man there should be a great woman and vice versa of course

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

no offence to fabswingers, true swingers are not the toxic. it is mainly liars and easy people that make this place so, when it comes to forging relationships."

I do think this is a very valid point, and whilst I do not rule out finding a relationship here, I am not interested in a swinging one, so it would have to be someone who really felt the same. Once you realise how easy it is to get sex here, even just 'titilation', it would be very hard for many to give up, so it would have to be someone exceptional for me to trust them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I joined Fab to actively avoid relationships for a little while (and to have lots of fun and re-engage with my bisexuality) then wham, out of the bloomin' blue I accidentally fell into one without ruddy meaning to. The jolly nice chap, unsurprisingly, doesn't bat an eyelid at my girl fun. It's all worked out jolly pleasingly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

This is how I feel haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep, I,m finding it hard too. I joined a non adult dating site, all the men on there want is sex. Mention a disabled daughter and bf material runs for the hills. I would like a casual nsa boyfriend, would give up swinging if I could find one. XXX

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me "

i found my best relationship as a fatty, was 2 stone heavier than i am now anyway, then i added another 4 stone after 2 more pregnancies. he loved me any size, shame love like that is really rare though, or seems to be.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

people like him are really rare i think.

they say they love you but often it's not been unconditional like his love was.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

people like him are really rare i think.

they say they love you but often it's not been unconditional like his love was."

I'm hardly qualified to talk about relationships but when I loved someone it was irrelevant to me what size she was, she didn't feel the same way about me unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was just thinking the same

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!! "

but very beautiful and he fixed a lot of damage others had caused to me by giving me fake love.

hope you find that too.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

people like him are really rare i think.

they say they love you but often it's not been unconditional like his love was.

I'm hardly qualified to talk about relationships but when I loved someone it was irrelevant to me what size she was, she didn't feel the same way about me unfortunately

at least you know you can love people, that's a good start.

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I can't find anyone I want to have sex with never mind an fwb

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

"OP, absolute kudos to you for your honesty. It's a tough ask on this site for both men and women. There's probably just as many men facing your predicament, but sadly these are outnumbered by those after that quick fix. Plus vice versa I should add. My experience was, I came on this site to explore my Sapiosexual nature, however, that proved more challenging than expected. Luckily, stumbled across someone in a different environment who happened to be on this site. We now do our own thing but secure in the knowledge, there's always a deeper connection away from the trappings and enticements of clubs and various holiday locations. I think with swinging and relationships there's a huge level of honesty/trust with yourself and the other person which transcends many vanilla relationships. It's hard to find but all I say is keep enjoying the journey and hopefully stay positive and who knows you might find that special person you're after. Don't give up, oh and vent as much as you like! Great profile and pics btw

This is lovely comment !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!!

but very beautiful and he fixed a lot of damage others had caused to me by giving me fake love.

hope you find that too.

Thanks.. sounds bad but want to find someone who makes me happy but also before my mum goes she can see im happy too as thats what she is worried about

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By *pfornaughtyfunMan
over a year ago

merseyside

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."
totally agree with you i am sick of meeting the wrong ones out in town so hence why am on here for a bit of fun till I meet the right girl

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By *irty-milfCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

I was single for about 10 years during which I dated many (too many) women.

My experience suggested finding women interested in swinging was surprisingly easy.

The hard thing was finding one I was actually capable of falling in love with. That was immensely hard.

In the end, when I had given up all hope, it happened.

There is no one way. No right time and definitely no guarantees. Sadly life/fab or any dating sites just don't work that way.

But it does usually happen eventually.

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!!

but very beautiful and he fixed a lot of damage others had caused to me by giving me fake love.

hope you find that too.

Thanks.. sounds bad but want to find someone who makes me happy but also before my mum goes she can see im happy too as thats what she is worried about "

putting a time limit will just add pressure, and possibly you'll make bad choices because of this, but i get why you'd want that.

makes your situation more shitty though, also it'd be nice for you to have someone to support you through what you're going through right now i guess?

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By *orthantsfun2013Man
over a year ago

poddington

"I know where you're coming from!

You in a similar boat?

I also cant see why?

Id love a relationship like that and is what im looking for

And why not?

Both of you get to have your cake and eat it as well"

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By *urvymamaWoman
over a year ago

Doncaster

In no rush to find it but I'd love to find the same too OP I most guys on here that want a relationship just want you to be their little kept monagamous woman at home

Turned down 3 relationships with men from this site for that reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

This is me exactly!! It's such hard work!

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Vanilla relationship as a single parent hard. Swinger relationship as as a non parent hard. Swinger relationship as a single parent very hard.

I am a working single parent myself and in all honesty I think now a relationship is impossible. Manly because I simply do not have the free time. Then the people I often find are single mothers. So the chances of us both finding the time at the same time are super slim. But thats the breaks and I wouldn't trade the kids for anything. But I did have the kids in my late 20s/early 30s so one day they will be grown up and I will have far more me time to share and be young enough to enjoy it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!!

but very beautiful and he fixed a lot of damage others had caused to me by giving me fake love.

hope you find that too.

Thanks.. sounds bad but want to find someone who makes me happy but also before my mum goes she can see im happy too as thats what she is worried about "

This is a good example of what I was describing above. Why load your search with so much compulsion? Your mum unfortunately believes that there can be no real fulfillment in being single, and you have absorbed this message too. We are responsible for our own personal happiness first and foremost. I wish you all the best in finding a suitable partner to share your life with, but please shed these notions that someone will make you happy. Make yourself happy and people will flock to you, promise! (Oh and the weight issue is collateral.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met my young partner on here 3 and half years ago. We are not swingers but do go to Eureka regularly but not to play - just to enjoy the music and see friends x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vanilla relationship as a single parent hard. Swinger relationship as as a non parent hard. Swinger relationship as a single parent very hard.

I don't know what your specific situation is, but I know a lot of single parents get some evenings and weekends off when the children are with other parent. If you and your single mum friends can't coordinate these, have nights in after kids go to bed when one of you is free. Ok it's not wild left time but it's as good as any other getting-to-know-you, building intimacy time! Where there's a will there's a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In case any women are looking through this thread, I am certainly looking for more than a one off.

Would be happy to have a regular normal relationship with the right woman and happy to swing as a couple with others.

I'm not holding my breath though.

change your name then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."
you've just decribed my life. Know exactly how you feel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me

Aye very rare love like that!!

but very beautiful and he fixed a lot of damage others had caused to me by giving me fake love.

hope you find that too.

Thanks.. sounds bad but want to find someone who makes me happy but also before my mum goes she can see im happy too as thats what she is worried about

These are wise words

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

It can happen me and the Mr found each other through here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me "

You are gorgeous, men like that aren't worthy of your company.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"Vanilla relationship as a single parent hard. Swinger relationship as as a non parent hard. Swinger relationship as a single parent very hard.

Well it is difficult because the nature of my work means I work strange hours and not the same days of the week each week. Plus often when I am kids free that time is needed to get all the work done I can't with the kids around. So I was just identifying with what the poster was saying about lack of time and resources. The reality is it makes things alot harder.

But not impossible and with the right person like you said where there a will there's a way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Some of us want relationships with people who are also fucking others.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Your question only makes sense if the only thing men get from a relationship is sex. "

Exactly what she said lol

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By *entle giraffeMan
over a year ago

Minehead

why would someone seek a relationship with you if you've already fucked them? all you're offering is what every other woman on this site is offering.

Sorry but you show total ignorance of what swinging is with this comment.

Some of us want relationships with people who are also fucking others."

this, absolutely

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By *illy-CurringtonMan
over a year ago

spalding.

I would REALLY love a long term(hopefully forever?) committed in the sense of looking after and sharing our lives but swinging relationship. Such fun but security and special times too.

I'd be cool with a long term 'partners in crime' type swinging relationship too.

I think it's because in a Librian.

Xxxxxx

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

I love this thread.

I guess I am similar in the fact I have been single and in this scene for ten years now. I have kids at home and get little free time.

I work but finances are a struggle as is transport.

I would love to meet a guy who loves this lifestyle too. I am bi and still need to be with a woman and other guys too.

I tried looking and not bothering too as others stated. I just dont believe I will find what I want so gave up hope.

Do I think I will find my man....no.

I am a strong woman so need a stronger man (in character) and dont believe they exsist really.

I need good sex too. I would rather be alone than in the wrong relationship.

I get my parents to help out when I can but there is a limit of course.

So I understand how all the other ladies feel. I gave up hoping many years ago.

Sorry it sounds so pathetic lol

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By *entleman JayMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Well I found it on here for six months anyway. Now firm friends. It can happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So it looks like theres tons of us... but still no matches?

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Fuck it. Lol

Gonna be that naughty grandma that tells naughty stories of all her escapades she had from being single 35 to 85 lol. My kids are gonna be cringing as I sit in my special chair and open my gob lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a really interesting thread OP. I will be coming back in here to share my experience.

I have been on Fab for over 2 years. Single for the whole time, but tested a few different dynamics to see what works for me.

This is the first time I have been on a site like this and it is the only site I am on. Therefore I needed to test/research many many things. It has been soo much fun and full of adventures

"The natural transition for the next step in my life"

Going to explain that another time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive got the exact same problem OP. Nobody is willing to put up with me ha

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Ok it looks like us girlies are gonna stay single and naughty ladies til old age.

Will I still be meeting people at 75! No teeth, nipples at my knees and shagging saga members

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me "

Scarlet hun..you are gorgeous. I'm sure no-one would be embarrassed to have you on their arm xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ive got the exact same problem OP. Nobody is willing to put up with me ha

Same boat... just keep rowing...

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

How about part time relationship ? Hang on , relationship is a heavy word for me and rather scary .

Dating is much nicer and comfortable . I could do that . I have been nearly 6 years single and not even dated .

I wouldn't even know how or where to start !!

But I m not looking if it happens ok if doesn't again ok .

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By *airymagicWoman
over a year ago

goblin city

I met someone on here, he wanted to be exclusive and leave fab

We said goodbye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about part time relationship ? Hang on , relationship is a heavy word for me and rather scary .

Dating is much nicer and comfortable . I could do that . I have been nearly 6 years single and not even dated .

I wouldn't even know how or where to start !!

But I m not looking if it happens ok if doesn't again ok .

It's your call so be happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I met someone on here, he wanted to be exclusive and leave fab

We said goodbye"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I found love on Fab!

At a swinging party, lived together 2yr normal monogamous relationship.......but due to mis trust it sadly ended.....we are still friends without the benefits, but both have new single profiles now.

Sadly he got bitter when he found my profile, read my verifications of other guys and was really mean to me......but guess he was jealous as he wasn't having much luck as a single guy.

I've had to go really under cover now only able to show my feet as he knows every inch of my body.

Just being discreet for an easy life as he lives Local to me, but it is possible and I'm seeking the same again !

Good luck, keep the hope x"

Great shoes!

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple
over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

It can happen. I came back on Fab last year after a break just looking for NSA. First guy I met wanted more, so we stayed exclusive and had a relationship of sorts until I found out he was married. Not great.

This time round I realised a relationship was possible, so I wrote in my profile that I could be looking for more. After much messaging back and forth over a few weeks, finally met Sir and he's everything I could have dreamt of and more. We have such a strong bond and that was clear from the start. Now live together and have many happy plans for the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Anyone in a swinging relationship? How did you find it?? Lol"

I tried one OP, we both met on here. She wanted more than I could give, I wanted to experience the whole swinging experience and she wanted me as a boy friend. The heart wants what it can't have I suppose, I've been there myself. It really is a taboo subject, i guess it takes a unique mind set and lots of trust

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

I feel ya. Same boat here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If only there were some local ladies here

it's a hard one to establish like many say some end up wanting a swinging relationship but realise later they want monogamy

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Well I suppose it's a tough statistically. Swinging is hardly an activity that most of the population participate in. So if swinging is a 'must have' in your relationship then you are already masively reducing the selection pool. Then exactly what people want out of swinging varies too, thus reducing the pool more. Adding single parent factor makes its it even harder for me.

Personally for me sexual compatability is a huge part of relationship compatability. So finding someone with same appite and lust for adventure as me is essential. So maybe somewhere like here is a better place to start than normal dating sites. I would recommend a FAB dating section but I very much suspect it would be open to abuse by people who where not serious. As other people have said it is possible.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

I am lucky that I have a group of friends who know me well and the help me with ny difficulties of finances. They drive 45 mins in the opposite direction to pick me up to then drive to our other friends. Trying to get cash taken for a round of drinks can then be diffucult and the £20 note I handed over to cover often comes back with drinks.

Then after thus couple drives me back the opposite direction again.

I am always bouncing as I dont get out much so am very exciteable and noisy. (Probably like a puppy) but they are very kind.

Being careful with money is hard too balancing out that I do need to have a social life and my perfect man is hardly going to fall into my lap

So I expect to be still single as I hit 50 in a few more years and will just have to carry on having fun with some wonderful people.

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By *iss InnocenceWoman
over a year ago

Coventry/Bristol

It can happen and work its worked for me the past year wiv my fb we have become closer then fb's/fwb. We swinger together,go on dates and meet each other friends and family, and we both wasn't looking for it, it Jst happened

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I suppose it's a tough statistically. Swinging is hardly an activity that most of the population participate in. So if swinging is a 'must have' in your relationship then you are already masively reducing the selection pool. Then exactly what people want out of swinging varies too, thus reducing the pool more. Adding single parent factor makes its it even harder for me."

I think that the key is, in some respects, cultivating a friendship group who align with your interests.

A large portion of my friends are non-monogamous, a lot of them are kinky, and if you drew a venn diagram of those two sets of my friends, quite a few of the crossover would be looking for new people to play with.

Two of my three currently partners were drawn from my friendships group involved in another (nerdy) hobby that I do. They wouldn't identify themselves as swingers I suspect, but they both enjoy meeting singles and couples for casual sex (mostly from their own friendship groups rather than the internet).

I suspect I could, right now, message at least five to ten people on my Facebook friends list (which totals about 200 people) and ask if they wanted to go out on a date and they'd say yes (singles and the odd couple).

Surrounding yourself with the kind of people that have lots in common with yourself takes time, but it's really worth it.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Another thread is running about a woman who is annoyed by guys on fab who keep trying to talk her into a relationship!!!

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/623584#top

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Two of my three currently partners were drawn from my friendships group involved in another (nerdy) hobby that I do. "

What is it?

I am mystified as to how you meet these people NOT on the internet. I sympathise with John in that parenthood shapes your social life in a prescriptive way, it can be a very isolating experience. Over the years I slowly and deliberately replaced my friendships and acquaintancies with non-mono people and "sex people", but if it weren't for the internet I wouldn't have had access to any of them. Only now I've started seeing a snowballing effect.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

I (the male) was on a well known dating site and dated about fifteen women over a four year period. About half of them were interested in playing with others. . We met on that site three years ago and have never looked back.

In other words I have not found any trouble finding people who want a non monogamous relationship. For the men I think the key is to get on a dating site where the numbers are not as skewed as they are here. Most dating sites have a roughly fifty fifty spread.

The other key is to not just be about the sex. A surprisingly large number of women are willing to experiment sexually but will run a mile if they think you are only interested in them as a sexual experiment.

Basically if you are genuinely looking for a non monogamous serious relationship there are plenty of people out there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" You'd think it would be every mans dream to have a gf who didn't mind them fucking others with permission of course and vice versa but no. "

LOL. So many of u are divorced from reality. The bulk of men are here to get their NSA kicks...not for a relationship. That is, of course, excluding the many couples who swing.

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By *not69Man
over a year ago

Lancashire

I can totally relate to this. All my friends either married or living with someone and although i love swinging and have lots of fun, i miss the regularity and companionship of something a bit more permanent. It seems that my social life these days is based entirely on going to swinging clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Two of my three currently partners were drawn from my friendships group involved in another (nerdy) hobby that I do.

What is it?

Ha. If I told you I'd have to kill you...

But seriously, I know non-monogamous and kinky people in just about every hobby I do, as well as in my professional life.

I find that if you put it out there about you, then people respond in kind and tell you about themselves. Almost everyone I meet knows I'm non-monogamous. I'm *always* happy to answer curious questions about it. I'm quite open about the fact that I meet people on the internet for sex (without going into too many details). It just attracts like minded people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I found my other half via another swinging site although neither of us were looking for a relationship but it just happened.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks everyone for all of the comments. I've enjoyed reading all of them. Christ knows what will happen in the future but hey ho. Shag on kiddas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks OP for starting the thread! One of the more positive threads I've read on hear in my time on the site. Good luck in your search x

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By *aughtyladyYummymanCouple
over a year ago

In a place not far from Exeter

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

I feel the same!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, When i joined the site i was originally looking to surround myself with friends and people who feel as happy as i do to be open about swinging and life style as i am. combined with a love of boardgames and movies and sex. I already know i look at the world very differently to most but the end goal was always to make friends and open up my life to the possibility of being in a swinging relationship.

unfortunately the huge percentage of females and couples on here close to me are not interested. it seems my shouts for friendship and company (less the sex) all fall on deaf ears. The sex would be a part of it of course i'm not denying that but it is a by product of chemistry and good company.

my point being because of the masses of men out there that want to pump and dump. and the wanking dead on cams it seems that people really have to work to get seen and believed. or to find what they are looking for.

the only thing i can advise is be honest and just roll with it until that friendship presents itself. we are out there we just may be a lot harder to find.

(i might have to pop this on my profile. i've finally managed to explain what i want/like)

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Some really positive stuff. Especially relating to moving in circles where there is more likelyness of metting like minded people. Same as any other dating if you think about it. An Armish guy would have little luck finding an Armish woman in outer Mongolia. So maybe moving in more kinky and Liberated circles would be helpful. Like socialising on here, socials, clubs etc. Just making a wider likeminded circle of friends. If only there was a way of identifying likeminded people in normal life? Maybe a secret handshake? Great advise, it's just finding the time for me.

For me great sexual compatability, shared lust for adventure and teamwork are King. Someone you are completely comfortable with sharing the darkest corners of your mind. I would want someone who is enough on their own to fulfil me for life and I them. If I find that person then swinging and the liberation and adventure it brings would be beautiful addition rather than a must have. But if they are a like minded, mischievous and as perverse as me then I am sure our adventures would lead that way.

Having said that experience has taught me that great sexual compatability is a relationship must have but it's not the only thing needed. There was awsome sexual compatability with my ex but in a way it was also a blinker to seeing some of the areas of non compatability and red flags. Ironically leading reduction to sexaul activity over the years. So a good relationship need all of its foundations to be solid not just the sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

Why would you want to swing? If you're in love with someone? I'm guessing these people looking for a swinging relationship haven't got a clue, when it comes to true love. Feelings and emotions can change overnight, when cupids arrow gets it target.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else. "

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago

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"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else. "

the idea of swinging doesn't appeal to me either but i get why people would share someone sexually, and in return get to share someone elses partner.

i also get that a lot of people get infatuated with one person and become possessive over them and allow themselves to be possessed by that person and that's how they end up monogamous.

nothing wrong with either way of doing things.

if i was in a relationship with someone i'd expect them to proioritise my needs over everyone else, i'd also want them to be sexually happy and i'd try to fulfil that myself but if they had to go elsewhere (and everything else about a relationship was good) then i'd be fine with that. i'd probably even take on for the team for them too, but it'd be rare i'd do that last one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???"

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

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By *ixen and RudolphCouple
over a year ago

LUTTERWORTH

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

I found my wonderful fiance on here. I was quite clear on my profile what I wanted. A relationship with someone kinky. It worked for us and we get married this year.

So don't give up but enjoy the site while looking and good luck xx

Pandora

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

I am single so bit different for me.

But if I met the man of my dreams he is never gonna also be a woman and give me the bi dide that I need.

If you dont understand why people choose to swing then why are you here? To many couples it isnt because something is missing so they need to swing to get say better sex for example! This lifestyle enhances their relationship. I know others are just here for other reasons.

Just a bit shocked you would assume if you are in love you dont want to swing!

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By *ixen and RudolphCouple
over a year ago

LUTTERWORTH

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others? "

As you are a couple on this site I don't really understand your comments.

Pandora x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess.

I found my wonderful fiance on here. I was quite clear on my profile what I wanted. A relationship with someone kinky. It worked for us and we get married this year.

So don't give up but enjoy the site while looking and good luck xx

Pandora "

says it all really ....Congratulations on the upcoming nuptials

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By *stonMTMan
over a year ago

cleveland

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By *stonMTMan
over a year ago

cleveland

if two people get on should just go with flow if you got a set agenda it good chance it will fail weather it on here or met some one in pub have an open mind world full of nice people no matter where you meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

As you are a couple on this site I don't really understand your comments.

Pandora x"

But I'm not not a couple on this site, just me and my bestie, had a good time all of 2015.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

Some guys are only interested in letting their partner play, some join in, others just like watching.

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By *ink magnolia s yorksWoman
over a year ago

south yorkshire

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By *ink magnolia s yorksWoman
over a year ago

south yorkshire

Looking for that too. But the person who said why would a Man want a relationship after he's had sex there's more to a relationship than just sex. If that were true all men would be single tbh I go for the try before you buy ! Been stuck with someone frigid before.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All rather interesting...as human beings we all crave social interaction ...we may have different labels but ultimately its about our relationships within social circle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others? "

You don't "get" swinging, do you

I enjoy threesomes and moresomes - two people on their own can't achieve this by definition. I enjoy sex with men as well as women, and everyone else too. I enjoy not having barriers when it comes to getting to know someone - I like to fuck with my friends and like to be friends with those I fuck. I also cherish seeing my partners expressing their sexuality, whether with me, or someone else, or with me *and* someone else... The more I am into someone the more I? want to share them, not less.

Nobody mentioned "true love" on this thread but you. You said we don't have a clue about it, yet the thing you suggest to be true love is possessive and unstable

If your needs are for exclusivity, fair enough. Our needs are for openness. I know *my* true loves would never restrict me, sexually or otherwise.

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

As a male,

I can enjoy sex with most women.

It's mostly (giving and receiving) physical pleasure.

In a relationship, I'm harder to connect with, as there has to be similar attitudes, interests as well as physical attraction.

I'd like a relationship where swinging was involved (I think, never had one) but want someone who wants to go out walking, cycling, running and can have wierd conversations. Sex is a small but important part of the relationship

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who would like to suck my meat skewer ?

(Only females with three tits)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know where you're coming from!

You in a similar boat?

You are not seeking a swinging relationship then are you....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are both very intrested in forming relationships

In a polyamorous style.

Both happy to chat to anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Single guy

Own home

Own teeth

Own hair

Just lownley lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???"

For many people 'love' does not preclude them from having sex with other people. For some people, they are capable of loving more than one person at the same time.

Humans don't have a limited supply of emotions. The more feelings and emotions (and yes - love) that you give out, the more that you have to give.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

You don't "get" swinging, do you

Nobody mentioned "true love" on this thread but you. You said we don't have a clue about it, yet the thing you suggest to be true love is possessive and unstable

If your needs are for exclusivity, fair enough. Our needs are for openness. I know *my* true loves would never restrict me, sexually or otherwise."

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

You don't "get" swinging, do you

Nobody mentioned "true love" on this thread but you. You said we don't have a clue about it, yet the thing you suggest to be true love is possessive and unstable

If your needs are for exclusivity, fair enough. Our needs are for openness. I know *my* true loves would never restrict me, sexually or otherwise."

That is one of the best explanations I have heard.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

You don't "get" swinging, do you

Nobody mentioned "true love" on this thread but you. You said we don't have a clue about it, yet the thing you suggest to be true love is possessive and unstable

If your needs are for exclusivity, fair enough. Our needs are for openness. I know *my* true loves would never restrict me, sexually or otherwise.

That is one of the best explanations I have heard."

Yeah OK, each to their own!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really want a relationship but at the moment my life is too hectic with quite personal stressful matters going on. Meeting someone now and the courting stage would tip me over the edge because I've got a lot of anxiety from the things that are happening. Everything needs to be squared away and I need time to digest all the shit that's happened in the last what will be 14 months by the time it's hopefully sorted out.

In a nutshell I'm an anxious unhappy soul at the moment so can't introduce anyone to my current life.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

"I really want a relationship but at the moment my life is too hectic with quite personal stressful matters going on. Meeting someone now and the courting stage would tip me over the edge because I've got a lot of anxiety from the things that are happening. Everything needs to be squared away and I need time to digest all the shit that's happened in the last what will be 14 months by the time it's hopefully sorted out.

In a nutshell I'm an anxious unhappy soul at the moment so can't introduce anyone to my current life. "

Sending loving hugs xx

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By *iSTARessWoman
over a year ago

London

I hear you OP and others seeking the same.

Now Pandora's Box has been opened, I couldn't go back to pure monogamy. Just want a primary partner to love and also that shite but still have fun elsewhere.

I've asked a lot of single guys their opinion on this and very few would want a swinging relationship. They want to shag around on their terms but a 'little woman' to remain theirs, territory. Which is pretty sad. And misogynist.

I think it takes a man who is very comfortable with himself to share his partner happily. I'm a massive fan of those chaps and those who really make it work

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By *acavityMan
over a year ago

Redditch

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

There is an old adage about staying faithful "Why have a hamburger, when there is steak at home"

But no matter how good a cook your partner is, it can be nice to have a takeaway or go out to a restaurant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others?

There is an old adage about staying faithful "Why have a hamburger, when there is steak at home"

But no matter how good a cook your partner is, it can be nice to have a takeaway or go out to a restaurant.

I just like to have sex with and talk to lot of different people. I enjoy variety. Just one person would never fulfil me because there's no variety with just one person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

Get that so much. Annoying isn't it.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I love the idea of having that one special person who is always in your corner, by your side. But I guess for me that includes someone who gives you total freedom and likewise you them. How special it must be love someone enough to be happy of the thought that they are enjoying themselves and truly exploring sexuality. The world is a wonderful playground and its sad that we are often expected to stop exploring it as a consequence of relationships.

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

Just having one of those "sigh" evenings where I just need a hug from someone special x

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"Just having one of those "sigh" evenings where I just need a hug from someone special x"

Well a few people have described me a 'special' in my lifetime. So sending out a online hug to you if it helps. We all need one now and then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would like to suck my meat skewer ?

(Only females with three tits)"

I would and i already have two and with you round that would mean I have 3

FYI - f&b knows i love him and im teasing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In a nutshell I'm an anxious unhappy soul at the moment so can't introduce anyone to my current life. "

Ahh bless yer, sounds like somebody needs a hug x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally in same position. Or not. No pun intended. I talked of this recently.

Having been married to a man who couldn't share. I am looking for an open minded someone. Won't have anyone in house when my kid is there.

So what do we do?

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"Totally in same position. Or not. No pun intended. I talked of this recently.

Having been married to a man who couldn't share. I am looking for an open minded someone. Won't have anyone in house when my kid is there.

So what do we do?"

Then that's a few of us in the same boat at least. As to what we can do, the options are very limited but no harm in searching on the off chance. Failing that wait until my kids have grown and flown the nest (although 20 years does feel a bit of a longer than I want to wait). The main thing is to find a relationship that lets both of us be truly our selves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Totally in same position. Or not. No pun intended. I talked of this recently.

Having been married to a man who couldn't share. I am looking for an open minded someone. Won't have anyone in house when my kid is there.

So what do we do?

The main thing is to find a relationship that lets both of us be truly our selves."

And therein resides the challenge we all face at one time or another as we live our lives... oh why oh why ain't it easy

...

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By *ruitWoman
over a year ago

near kings lynn

"Totally in same position. Or not. No pun intended. I talked of this recently.

Having been married to a man who couldn't share. I am looking for an open minded someone. Won't have anyone in house when my kid is there.

Same here. When youngest is away I can make plans but then have to make an excuse up for eldest.

Otherwise its wait another 8 years or so before I may get more free time.

(On phone, didnt mean to centralise my view mid quote)

So what do we do?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be open to it, especially if you both go into knowing that from the start, but as with any relationship, you'd need that spark etc, but can totally see the benefits of two swingers getting together.

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By *enegade MasterMan
over a year ago

warrington

I would love to find a partner to have a relationship that involved swinging. However , being over 50 usually means you don't get a look in & I think I'm in good nick for a a coffin dodger ..lol

One aspect that could arise though, is the Lady would in my experience, always get more offers than the guy... how would you deal emotionally with that, unless you are always there or perhaps indulge only in couples swapping... I still want and I'm not a jealous or possessive person ...hopefully we can all find our perfect partner x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My partner meets far more people than I do. He's never, ever short of offers.

I don't find it a problem. It doesn't make me jealous or feel posessive. I'm happy for him that he's able to enjoy himself with so many people.

There's something called 'compersion' which many genuinely non-monogamous people feel. It's basically the act of being happy because you have seen someone you care for being happy in a sexual/emotional way.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport

Good luck to everyone else looking for longer-term relationships through a swinging site. I will say it can happen, it did to me when I was in my mid 20s which was a massive suprise especially when it wasn't what either of is claimed to be looking for at the time.

Unfortunately swinging (or more accurately using a swinging site for cheating) also was significantly involved in the end of that relationship but at least we got nearly a decade of happiness together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know where you're coming from!"

I find it hard to believe u can't get a guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same here but patience is a virtue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I changed my profile this week to seek similar to what u mention and I've had nothing.

What I have had.. is loads of guys claiming to want the same then asking me revolting sexual questions.

I keep my profile ammunition free these days. No matter what I have on it, the same men mail saying they are looking for the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast you are slim, try finding one as a fatty guys are mainly to embarrassed to be seen in public let alone date me "

Really this is not true!! You look sexy and a man should be proud to have you in his life not ashamed and the things a guy can do with your body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id have swinging relationship with you lovely pics depends how you are as a person?? And cant message as out of your age bracket xx youll find someone op x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been single for this reason for 6 years

a normal relationship is not enough and finding someone open minded about being on fab is not easy to find.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have been single for this reason for 6 years

a normal relationship is not enough and finding someone open minded about being on fab is not easy to find."

There are plenty of us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Contact me for a date

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I sometimes think the 'grass is always greener'. When you're single, you want to be in a relationship. When you're in a relationship, you want to be single.

I often think I'd love to be in a swinging relationship, but then would I really want to share him if I was totally in love with him? Who knows the answers, as I don't.

I ain't sharing my man, and I've no desire to have sex with anyone else.

Its late and dont have my reading glasses on but are you saying that if you are in love eith your partner why woukd you want to swing???

Yes , what's missing??? If you fullfill each others needs, emotionally, sexually, why do you feel the need to fuck others? "

Do you go to the cinema, pub, for meals, shopping, etc etc with your friends? Your partner must be pretty crap if he's not fulfilling your needs in this way that you have to go out with friends. Why do you feel the need to go out with them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm amazed at blokes on here not wanting what you're offering. I mean, after you have discounted the married cheats, why wouldn't a guy want somebody lovely like you who will let him keep his lifestyle and join in.

Our experience is that we love to see one another take pleasure with others but also that our private sexual repertoire expands all the time. We learn from others and it turns Lass on when, for example, use a different tongue technique that somebody else used on her.

Good luck and keep at it. A swinging marriage is a very exciting and loving thing to have.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I know where your coming from. I am a single parent in the same boat. Likewise i am of an age where all my freinds are coupled up and i am the spare wheel. There are two main difficulties. One my family and work life (the kids always come first). Two not that many people out there who want a relationship with that kind of liberation. Most people relationship wise want something more conventional. So it only gives you a very small pool to choose from. Unfortunatly them are the breaks. But I would rather be single than in a relationship that did not sexual freedom I enjoy. I want to be with someone who likewise wants to continue to enjoy, explore and seek new adventures. A partner in crime. A swinger relationship will always be harder to find than a villia one. All you can do keep looking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Finding love is not easy and to find it on a site with 20+ guys to 1 female is even harder, that 1st message is so hard to someone, females just skim over them or not read them at all but i can understand that getting so many, so a guy like me who needs to get to know someone and feel comfortable around them, dating is not really an option and my meets are getting wider apart these days.

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

Don't know what the point of this post is

just wanted to vent I guess."

We think you might be trying to put the cart before the horse. By that we mean first comes a relationship, love, trust and then comes swinging? Just a thought.

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