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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

hi there we had our first proper taste of dogging sat night and loved it but we are unsure of the rules how do you know someone is looking to play any tips or guidance appreciated thanks x p&m

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure what tips or guidance you need.

You have all the things you need for successful dogging 1) a couple 2) a car and 3) a location.

Get in the car and go to the lcation.

Act as if there's nobody there at all. Do the stuff you did when you were courting and didn't have a house or a flat to go back to.

The doggers will do the rest. How far you let it go is up to you.

Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

thanks for that x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We've never been dogging but one of our friends from here loves it and I'm sure she said there was an etiquette or code in that certain things mean something eg car door open or shut, interior light on, window open,.windscreen wipers on etc. Can't remember what though! I'm sure a fellow fabber can help x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

yes thats what we thought would hate to do something inappropriate x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes thats what we thought would hate to do something inappropriate x"

Don't worry about doing anything inappropriate. The couple is the centre of attention, the main event, the reason everyone is there.

The doggers aren't going to give you a row or report you to the dogging police if you make a mistake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oooo I’m dying to add my say on this one lol. As a single girl at the time who ventured into dogging alone I had many experiences. There was more light flashing than at Blackpool, and depending who you spoke to it all meant different things!!

Frankly, I didn’t give monkeys about what I should or shouldn’t be doing; however here are some of the things I learnt or opinions I gained:

1) If someone pulled up behind me, or in front of me, then sat in their car for over 15 mins it was a non starter lol. I look at it like this; I was a single woman, if a guy isn’t going to get out of his car to approach me, why did he think I would?

2) I really liked it when men got out of their car, came over and said hello to me, a little chat goes along way. . .however!! The odd ones that just undid their trousers and shoved their cocks in through the window were not very well received!! And, rightly or wrongly, if I didn’t like them, I asked them to jog on.

3) I used to open my window, to me that was a sign that I was willing to chat

4) Be clear on what it is you are looking for! Let’s be honest, if you’re feeling horny, a nice guy comes over and chats, why not just be honest!! You might get what you’re looking for.

5) I used to get the impression, the single guys that went dogging would approach a car no matter what if they wanted to watch or play. In my experience they are not shy in asking if they can touch! There are odd ones that just jump right in, but a back of dickhead tends to help them get the message

6) I know this isn’t relevant to your post, but I used to take a small make up bag out with me!! Lol. Us girls what we like. . .but I had condoms, anti back hand gel, tissues, and mints in it!! I was always amazed at the number of guys looking for sex that genuinely thought they would meet peeps who would do it bareback!!!

7) Have fun, I was totally addicted for over a year, got such a thrill and experienced many of my fantasies.

Lovepuppies xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

whoops of course that is anti bacterial hand wash lol xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really want to go dogging too but I'm not brave enough to go alone like you

So hopefully going with a lovely couple I met at a social last week, this Friday night

They go regularly so know all the lingo lol Can't wait though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

plus I'm going to take a 'goody bag' too now, thanks for the tip

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

yes thankyou for the advise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a single guy who likes dogging I would say just givin a slight smile can help us guys know if ur interested or nor I maybe piloted than some actually lol, but where I go there is one couple who give me the daggers everytime they see me so I steer clear lol luckily it's a busy site n their are others to play with, n if a guy don't wanna quick friendly chat beforehand I would tread carefully as they tend to be the aggressive 1s. One couple I play with regular have been chased for a few miles by a guy who felt they should play with him, however this is the minority 99% are polite and happy to respect a couple. My biggest gripe is the gay scene spreading into the straight dogging sites, around ere there are loads of gay haunts yet at the main dogging site round ere I keep gettin harassed for a bj!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" ......... My biggest gripe is the gay scene spreading into the straight dogging sites, around ere there are loads of gay haunts yet at the main dogging site round ere I keep gettin harassed for a bj!!!

A lot of 'straight dogging sites' were cottaging sites long before dogging became popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is true and like I say I know of 3 that I would never go to for that reason but this site is not one I knew of, n it's bloody murder with all the boy racers as well will close the chase down with so much goin on the police won't keep turnin a blind eye

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

thankyou its good to hear dogging from all sides x

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

I don’t know if anyone has said this already but different lights being turned on and off meaning different things is a complete myth.

Lights are used to draw attention… and that’s it. Whether the light flasher just wants to let you know they are there or is saying it’s OK to come and watch… it just getting attention and giving an indication you are there for the dogging.

However, hazard warning lights left on generally means they have broken down and blue flashing lights means it’s time to leave.

Doors and windows being open will mean different things to different people… generally it’s an invitation to come over and touch, but not always.

If the boot is open and they have an old carpet and a shovel, it may be wise to find another spot.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

One other thing about lights. Doggers tend to respect each other's "darkness" and tend to go onto sidelights when manoevering on their car park, and turn their lights off when parked.

Gay guys tend to sit there with sidelights or headlights turned on all the time.

Boy Racers think it's hillarious to flash full beam lights, lasers, huntiing lights etc at you.

Interior lights theory is now very dated and unreliable. In-car "body language" is what I look for before getting out of my car. Eye contact, a smile, the passenger (ladies) seat getting tilted back, and windows opening, are all good things. Excessive use of mobile phones, irritated jumping about in the car, etc are bad things.

Ladies legs up on the dashboard are a bit of a hint as well, as is the taking off of an obvious bit of clothing.

Don't forget the risk of reading the situation wrong..."straight" people still find their way into these car parks, so better safe than sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For a giggle go to Youtube and search for Fascinating Aida "Dogging"

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By *eighleedsMan
over a year ago

leeds

"For a giggle go to Youtube and search for Fascinating Aida "Dogging"

MA going to see FA live in October, am going with an old FB who we had an shall we say interesting experience with plod whilsy out dogging one night, she has no idea as far as i know abiout FA apart from 'Cheap Flights' i may survuve the evening lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

great advise thankyou

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"great advise thankyou "
Hope u do go and start a new thread telling us how u got on, don't forget to smile lol!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

our first solo attempt we didnt see anyone around will let you know how next attempt goes lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"our first solo attempt we didnt see anyone around will let you know how next attempt goes lol"
Typical bet u think were all full of shit us doggers ha ha!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

having been to a few sites in and around the north west in the past, have found some sites are mainly cottaging and others mixed, very rarely are they totally straight sites, and most couples come on the car parks later on in the night rather than 8-9pm

Most people wind down window to chat and are happy to be approached to say hi, find most couples like you to come over chat then if interested tell you to go round to the womans side to play. dont just get your cock out!!

lights on in vehicle on for few seconds means im up for being approached. or headlights turned on and off quickly means pretty much the same.

the main sin is coming into the dark car park or layby all lights on full beam as everyone will scatter lol

politieness goes along way and have been invited back to peoples houses from sites in the past to get more comfortable!!

good luck and take wet wipes and tissues and condoms!!

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

A North-West thing I suspect. It wouldn't wash in the Midlands. interior lights is a Gay thing here.

Memories of the NW though are that people tend to park up and walk around the car parks. Again that's something that won't work in the Midlands. Here you park about a car and a half width away so that you can see each other and read the body language. In the Midlands, getting out of the car is seen as "threatening" (not sure if that's the right word, but it's along those lines) until you know for sure that a show is "on", or you are invited, or unless you know the people in question.

Regional variations on the way things are done is a bugger, as it has led to people travelling to where the internet tells them is a good car park, doing what is "natural" on their own patch, and because it is not the way it is done where they are, they screw things up totally for the locals. Oh the joys and perils of the game lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

lol you win some you loose some eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi, this is all very interesting and intriquing.....anyone recommend a dogging site in and around Wakefield please, i am a first timer and would love to give it a go.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must admit dogging is by far the most exciting thing I have done. Even more exciting than club visits most the time. Its the nervousness of approaching someone and the fact you could get it very wrong lol

I have found being yourself and polite is the best advice, as for gay advances I find a polite no thanks doesnt lead to any offense.

The most important rule is to remeber to have a good laugh and remember thay you're all there for the same reason.

I hope u enjoy x x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i guess its one of those you never know who will turn up if anyone lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone told me that if you get caught by the police you risk going on the sex offenders register - is that true?

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

They have to convict you of a sex offence for you to go onto the Sex Offenders Register. What offence were you thinking of committing?

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"i guess its one of those you never know who will turn up if anyone lol"

Very similar to the guy at the riverside, with his line in the water, never knowing if the fish will bite...funny how fishing is supposed to be the biggest participation sport in the country!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't sex in a public place an offence?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Isn't sex in a public place an offence?"

Even exposure is an offense, so sexual activity could be viewed as a more extreme form of exposure. If the sex causes alarm or distress to others, then this could also be an offense: think of local busy bodies who are happy to complain about anything etc.

There is the potential for Outraging Public Decency I believe too.

It's also possible that local bylaws mat be used, or even some older laws that are rarely used today, as long as they have not been repealed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They have to convict you of a sex offence for you to go onto the Sex Offenders Register. What offence were you thinking of committing?

That's not true - at least in Scotland. More than one person has been placed on the Sex Offender Register for mooning out of the window of a football supporter's bus.

Is that a 'sex offence'? The courts thought not but agreed it was 'indecent exposure', imposed a fine and inclusion on the Register.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/notes/contents

Sections 66-68

Better to read the law than to listen to hearsay, so I'll shut up and leave you to read it for yourselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know it is a worrying side effect of dogging but on the other hand I know of a couple who thought their chips were up when a uniformed car pulled in where they were but the officer never got out and after 5 mins the lady carried on n the officer watched, I'm sure not the norm but just goes to show also the local forestry ranger is happy to turn a blind eye as lond azure not doin it where Joe public are u shouldn't encounter too much hostility

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By *he_original_poloWoman
over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

"A North-West thing I suspect. It wouldn't wash in the Midlands. interior lights is a Gay thing here.

Sorry but I disagree.

Interior lights (even in the midlands) are just a way of getting attention.... even couples do it.

People get out of their cars and walk around in car parks up and down the country... even in the midlands. The variations are not regional, the variations are down to individuals and just depends on who is in the car park. Some places have die hard regulars and so a patterns of behaviour for that particular spot may become established, but that doesn't mean they apply 2 mile down the road.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They have to convict you of a sex offence for you to go onto the Sex Offenders Register. What offence were you thinking of committing?

That's not true - at least in Scotland. More than one person has been placed on the Sex Offender Register for mooning out of the window of a football supporter's bus.

Is that a 'sex offence'? The courts thought not but agreed it was 'indecent exposure', imposed a fine and inclusion on the Register."

"http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/notes/contents

Sections 66-68

Better to read the law than to listen to hearsay, so I'll shut up and leave you to read it for yourselves."

I don't see any contradiction. The legislation speaks to intentionally exposing his genitals and I see no mention in the Act you quote about exposing one's bottom (mooning).

Mooning, therefore, isn't a 'sex offence' within the terms of the Act. Nonetheless the Sheriff felt it should be punished and, perhaps a bit heavy handedly, chose inclusion on the SOR as part of the punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I know it is a worrying side effect of dogging but on the other hand I know of a couple who thought their chips were up when a uniformed car pulled in where they were but the officer never got out and after 5 mins the lady carried on n the officer watched, I'm sure not the norm but just goes to show also the local forestry ranger is happy to turn a blind eye as lond azure not doin it where Joe public are u shouldn't encounter too much hostility"

That just demonstrates how much of a minefield the whole dogging business can be in that much of any repercussions come down to individual decisions about what, if any, action to take.

The cop 'could' have reported the matter to the CPS (or COPFS in Scotland) .

The CPS 'could' have decided to proceed with court action.

A judge or a jury 'could' have found the person/ couple guilty and any one of a number of disposals 'could' have been handed down.

All of this leaves doggers not being entirely sure what 'will' happen to them should they be discovered and that might well be the intention. If you know the price (punishment) of something - you can decide whether or not to buy it.

Uncertainly breeds indecision and that'll be enough to put some folks off.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

"I don't see any contradiction. The legislation speaks to intentionally exposing his genitals and I see no mention in the Act you quote about exposing one's bottom (mooning).

I think that the "mooning" thing is down to the intentionally causing offence aspect, so will be viewed more harshly.

Just exposing genitals WITHOUT INTENDING to cause offence is a different matter. Naturists campaigned long and hard to get that wording done in that way so that nude sunbathers wouldn't get arrested. As I see it, the Police would have to prove that a dogger was intending to cause offence by exposing his genitals in order to get convicted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's an interesting line in the Act you quoted earlier which says "he may (depending on his state of mind) commit the offence regardless of whether they actually see his genitals or whether they have been alarmed or distressed by seeing them."

That would seem to leave a police officer and/ or a prosecutor a great deal of leeway as to whether or not to take action.

It may, I'd suggest, be part of the plan to deliberately confuse people into doing nothing rather than risk prosecution, media vilification and inclusion on the SOR.

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By *rummiePartyManMan
over a year ago

birmingham

My reading of that is that if someone intends to offend someone, he is liable to prosecution whether or not he succeeds in causing offence.

That's different to exposing his bits and pieces in a way that's not intended to cause offence. The Police would be hard pushed to prove that a dogger having a wank outside the car of a couple putting on a show for him, is offending someone who is there for pretty much the same reason as he is.

On the other hand...the desperado who sneaks up on a genuine courting couple, and gets his tackle out...he's asking for trouble.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My reading of that is that if someone intends to offend someone, he is liable to prosecution whether or not he succeeds in causing offence.

On the other hand...the desperado who sneaks up on a genuine courting couple, and gets his tackle out...he's asking for trouble."

I'd agree with para 3. Even if he didn't get his bits out but they decided to say that he had, he'd be in trouble.

As for the rest .......... too many variables and possibilities to give any sort of definitive answer.

The usual advice? Don't get caught.

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