FabSwingers.com forum: Party with hot people?!!

By *pen_minded_gent OP Man
over a year ago

Manchester

I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The only one we go to allows couples and single women only, although I'm sure there are others which cater for men too.

H x

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By *pen_minded_gent OP Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

Too late

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure you didn't intend to offend but the way you've worded your opening post, it reads that larger people aren't classy and class has nothing to do with size.

Try Le Boudoir or Killing Kittens, I think they might be clubs you're looking for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

Clubs like killing kittens sounds like what you maybe after, however be warned,they pre-vet all their attendees via a picture, so getting into one of their nights isn't guaranteed,even for 'hot' people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think there are any clubs that only allow (subjectively) 'good looking' people in. I don't think that's a thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

beauty is in the eye of the beer holder

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

Depends on what you are looking for

More attractive than you: Only a few

Same level of attractiveness as yourself: Just about any club does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Okay. Classy attractive. I don't know if I'm attractive, that's subjective to who looks at me. So I don't know if I can attend a club that holds those type of events. And if I'm a couple. I think my other half is the living vision of a sex goddess. But you think she isn't welcome be issue she doesn't dress classy or you think she too Fugly to attend your event.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I dont think there are any clubs that only allow (subjectively) 'good looking' people in. I don't think that's a thing

What about killing kittens?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can you imagine the scenario at the door if you're not deemed good looking enough...

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By *pen_minded_gent OP Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work? "

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

To put into perspective, I previously attended a club where everyone was very overweight and the level of effort made in terms of clothing was almost non existent (dirty jeans, ripped t shirt, shoes that should have been binned long ago etc)

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work? "

Ginger hair night?

Tell me this is an actual thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation "

Well you aren't too good at wording it right, are you!!

Killing kittens sounds exactly what you are looking for ...

They seem to cater for the terminally delusional (people who think they are better than everyone else)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Ginger hair night?

Tell me this is an actual thing."

If not. It should be. Red hot-red heads or something.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation "

Is this wording it better?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Ginger hair night?

Tell me this is an actual thing.

If not. It should be. Red hot-red heads or something.

Right, the seed has been planted.

Let's get this organised!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Step by step guide to party with hot people.

Step 1. Block all windows and vents.

Step 2. Invite people over.

Step 3. Formal dress code.

Step 4. Serve spicy food and hot drinks.

Step 5. Play music.

You have a party and soon everyone will be very hot.

Easy peasy.

You are welcome.

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By *roticGoddessXXWoman
over a year ago

Richmond

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

I suppose you also think you're quality, classy, and attractive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did you not get the memo? Everyone is entitled to a preference unless you're a straight white male!

What you're seeking is from private parties only. Clubs have far too many "BBWs". Let us know what you find

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

You could always have your own little party OP, that way you could choose your own guests

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

fella exclusive clubs are frowned upon on fab didn't you know only woman are allowed to have any kind of personal preferences when a guy has then he's just a egotistical prat

ps clubs are open to everyone look into the private party scene if you want a more selective scene but remember the same rules of selection may mean your not up to standard ether ,

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation "

Nothing wrong with your wording at all; just thinley veiled misandry attempting a put down.

Killing kittens and city slickers both have standards for appearance.

However that's why we don't attend them because we prefer to go to AbFabs where everyone is accepted as it's more reflective of the lifestyle we identify with. I think you just went to the wrong club though, if you didn't find anyone at AbFabs attractive on a friday then it would be surprising...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

... would they let you in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation "

"In good shape" - like an olympic powerlifter you mean? In better shape than you or I. Probably still count as 'fat'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members

... would they let you in?"

Good question

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I believe Hitler had similar ideas over what constitutes attractiveness...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x"

so glad to see some else not laying into the fella for having nothing more than a preference .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be frank. There are ALOT of disgusting, unhygienic and those who lack effort on Fab. The bullshit responses to OPs request are what empower people to make minimal effort in their appearance.

Way too many on Fab get carried away with the lopsided gender ratios and thus get offended when any man dares to have a preference. No, many people simply dont want to play with overweight people. When a woman suggested this (in this same very forum) plenty offered legitimate advice. It seems men are not afforded the same understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x

so glad to see some else not laying into the fella for having nothing more than a preference .

Even the OP said he could have worded his opening post better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it helps, I'm not offended by your post. It is what it is.

Personally, I don't really have a preference. I like who I like - it's really that simple.

Your post is not really any more demeaning than a lot of profile preferences.

You stated what you want from the experience. Fair enough.

The thing is no matter what you say people will always take offense. This is the internet and to be fair a lot can be lost in translation. Sometimes we just don't word things right.

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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

"I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x

so glad to see some else not laying into the fella for having nothing more than a preference .

Even the OP said he could have worded his opening post better."

yes he did because he was attacked for having preference and asking for help in finding a club that may better suit his needs or preference .

i have read far worse on here and in profiles

the guy can word something any way he likes what he wrote was not in the slightest bit offensive to me and the only people who could take offence are those with a issues other how they looked .

if that was the case then just block the op don't pull him up on having a preference that is his right its everyone's right on here

as is his right to express that preference in doing so he is hurting no one or really offending anyone as he has not named anyone or singled anyone out when stating that preference ,

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Putting the cat amongst the pigeons slightly but I suspect there are very few men who, if given the choice of casual sex with a woman who was size 10 and a woman who was size 20 would choose the latter.

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"If it helps, I'm not offended by your post. It is what it is.

Personally, I don't really have a preference. I like who I like - it's really that simple.

Your post is not really any more demeaning than a lot of profile preferences.

You stated what you want from the experience. Fair enough.

The thing is no matter what you say people will always take offense. This is the internet and to be fair a lot can be lost in translation. Sometimes we just don't word things right.

Yes, he did reword it and then there was nothing wrong with what he asked

I don't know of many clubs which have a body size preference. Le Boudoir and Killing Kittens are the only ones I know of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x

so glad to see some else not laying into the fella for having nothing more than a preference .

Even the OP said he could have worded his opening post better.

yes he did because he was attacked for having preference and asking for help in finding a club that may better suit his needs or preference .

i have read far worse on here and in profiles

the guy can word something any way he likes what he wrote was not in the slightest bit offensive to me and the only people who could take offence are those with a issues other how they looked .

if that was the case then just block the op don't pull him up on having a preference that is his right its everyone's right on here

as is his right to express that preference in doing so he is hurting no one or really offending anyone as he has not named anyone or singled anyone out when stating that preference , "

You've got it all wrong. Anyway the OP clarified what he meant by classy in a later post. I'm just intrigued as to what club he went to as I got the impression clubs were very strict on dress code.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Putting the cat amongst the pigeons slightly but I suspect there are very few men who, if given the choice of casual sex with a woman who was size 10 and a woman who was size 20 would choose the latter.

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow "

Exactly.

Conversely, all the desparate men on here that would shag anything have inflated the egos of all the women.

Female priveledge I suppose

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By *pen_minded_gent OP Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Thanks for all the responses and messages I have received. It appears that I am not the only person with a preference!!

To clarify, I do not expect to walk into a club and everyone look like a supermodel nor have the body of an Olympian.

But I do expect people to have made an effort.

I am not saying anyone over a dress size 12 is overweight as curvy women can be stunning.

In the same way many women state there preference for guys to be in shape (i.e. No man boobs etc)

I like my partners to be in good shape. Absolutely nothing wrong with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members

Depends on what you are looking for

More attractive than you: Only a few

Same level of attractiveness as yourself: Just about any club does"

Touché

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a big girl but understood what was meant and took no offence.

As to the other posts. Ive been the fat girl ignored by most at a private party as all the other ladies were slim..

There are parties out there but come with a hefty price tag for guys. The one we went to think the guys had all paid in excess of 100quid. But there were 4 girls guarenteed to play.. ( we have done our homework better since this)

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

"I'm a big girl but understood what was meant and took no offence.

As to the other posts. Ive been the fat girl ignored by most at a private party as all the other ladies were slim..

You are essentially playing with prostitutes are you not at those parties? I have known plenty of parties like that where the girls are guaranteed to play but that's only because they have been paid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

Start socially, chatting to the kind of people you are attracted to could get you an in to the kind of private parties you wish to be invited to. Also look at the clubs with a higher membership/entry fee, there is still no guarantee you will be attracted to someone there but they will most certainly be making an effort if it's cost that much to get in lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for all the responses and messages I have received. It appears that I am not the only person with a preference!!

To clarify, I do not expect to walk into a club and everyone look like a supermodel nor have the body of an Olympian.

But I do expect people to have made an effort.

I am not saying anyone over a dress size 12 is overweight as curvy women can be stunning.

In the same way many women state there preference for guys to be in shape (i.e. No man boobs etc)

I like my partners to be in good shape. Absolutely nothing wrong with that

There's nothing wrong with this....now.

Your right we all have our certain tastes in who attracts us. But your opening post made it sound like we're all not worthy to be in the presence of beautiful (Abercrombie n Fitch type) people.

I think I'll stick with partying with my pals I get on with. And who I find hot.

I know they're hot, they're on my hotlist.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation "

I have a ladder you can borrow of that hole your digging gets too deep?

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By *100Man
over a year ago

Essex

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

Pmsl here we go again

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By *orkie321bWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

As a fat person I'm not offended by the fact some people don't find me attractive, in fact i expect it.

What i do find offensive is when people imply that because i'm fat then i'm not classy or don't make an effort.

OP you definitely need to phrase your posts a little better.

There are clubs/parties that do only admit "beautiful people". Whilst this is a very subjective term it generally means slim for the ladies and gym fit for the men and under 40. It sounds like this is the kind of thing that you are looking for OP. The ones that come to mind are killing kittens and city slickers parties.

Look them up on here and message them to get an invite. Do bear in mind though they do vet their guests and have very high standards. There is always the possibility that you are not considered beautiful or attractive enough.

Good luck OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm after some advice please!! (Apologies if posted in the wrong room?)

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab?

I'm not intending to offend anyone here so please don't abuse me for asking the question.

Just simply looking for any advice as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

Killing Kittens, Liberty Elites.

Also check the club meets forum for the occasional exclusive party. Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe organise your own party and invite the people you like the look of?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The trouble is OP there are two types of ugly swingers... people who you find physically unattractive... and twats. By going to a VIP club you may find you're trading the former for the latter.

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By *issVeryWoman
over a year ago

streatham

"beauty is in the eye of the beer holder

Hahahahahahahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Slightly offended by post but won't take it personally!

I've been fooled by the whole gym fit bodies thing. I've enjoyed perving the lush pics but then you get talking and get the face pic

Just saying....

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Just because someone is larger doesn't mean they are not attractive, take care of their appearance and don't have intelligence.

Same applies to the "beautiful people", they're not all shallow airheads?

David Beckham

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is not the done thing on the forums to publically admit that one has a preference for a bit of slim posh totty

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Guess we will have to call a halt to swinging then, this must be why we never get a meet or get passed by at a club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Guess we will have to call a halt to swinging then, this must be why we never get a meet or get passed by at a club.

Club on Saturday?..... but only if they let us in. We may be too old, too fat or too ugly. Maybe all three!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really buy the whole vetting thing with KK, it's just a marketing ploy to make it all sound exclusive, especially in the cases of the females. The parties are made out to be decadent when they really fucking aren't.

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Yes, well dressed, classy attractive people.

I make no apologies in having a preference.

(No different for a lady looking for a specific type- BBC, tall, dark and handsome. Or a guy looking for something specific- BBW etc)

I didn't put the post up to be judged, simply looking for some advice.

Certainly not intended to offend

You will be judged regardless. You know that.

Can you not see how this offends?

I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Possibly poorly worded on my behalf-

By attractive, I mean made an effort, have all your teeth, be in good shape and be able to hold a conversation

Nothing wrong with your wording at all; just thinley veiled misandry attempting a put down.

Killing kittens and city slickers both have standards for appearance.

Size has nothing to do with class mannerisms acceptance of others etc & once the OP learns this he'll find his happiness.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You seem to imply that overweight people don't make an effort but that's not true.

I'm very fat but i always make an effort. I am always clean and smell nice. I am always shaved in appropriate areas. I wear nice clean clothes too. Oh and i am rich.

I think there is the same amount of posh people that don't make an effort as there is non posh people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are you sure youd get in OP?

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By *lactontogMan
over a year ago

Clacton on Sea

You will find the real classy clubs accept all whereas the not so classy money grabbing clubs will attract gullible pretty people happy to shell out silly money for the privilege.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure youd get in OP?"

From what I can see of his profile, I don't think he'll have too much difficulty getting into some of the clubs that vet people. He's got a good body, nice photos, says he's a gentleman. His ethos may offend most of the forum, but that won't matter in these clubs.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure youd get in OP?"

I'd like to know what the conditions are to turn up to a Killer kitten night.

I've got abs. Check

I'm a size 10 or less. Check.

I've been to the hairdressers and make up, I've had my nails done....etc.

And then I have to send a pic or stand on parade to see if I'm good enough?

No thank you. I'll stay away from that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure youd get in OP?

Mrs"

Depends who's opinion matters was my point.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Are you sure youd get in OP?

Mrs

Depends who's opinion matters was my point. "

Theirs

From KK website:

"The success of Killing Kittens is fundamentally centred on our stringent membership screening process. We are wholly unapologetic to say that we discriminate based on style, looks, charisma and the unknown ‘X’ factor and the way Killing Kittens stays at the top of the tree is that these criteria are adhered to, always."

I think the OP will be accepted; he is tallish, good toned body, not overweight, perhaps good-looking (from what little is visible from his photograph)

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"beauty is in the eye of the beer holder

What about a Gin & Tonic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As stated already OP I think your best bet would be Killing Kittens or City Slickers, or private parties.

I think you may also have just hit unlucky with the club you chose so perhaps give another a whirl. Use the club reviews on here to give you an idea of what to expect.

Good luck in your search.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow "

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you sure youd get in OP?

Mrs

Depends who's opinion matters was my point.

Theirs

From KK website:

I think the OP will be accepted; he is tallish, good toned body, not overweight, perhaps good-looking (from what little is visible from his photograph)"

I got membership to KK and I'm not particularly attractive.

(Not sure why someone mentioned Liberty Elite further up the thread, when I last went there was no discrimination based on how good looking you were, and they were denying applications to single men.)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also OP, like the others have said, try private parties. There are loads in London, but be warned... I'm overweight but I've been invited to a few of them so I'm afraid not everyone may be slim!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm sure you didn't intend to offend but the way you've worded your opening post, it reads that larger people aren't classy and class has nothing to do with size.

Try Le Boudoir or Killing Kittens, I think they might be clubs you're looking for."

Yes try Le Boudoir, lots of very sexy women and couples in there, all dressed to impress.

If you're still not happy, find a club with a black room and spend your night in there. You won't be able to see what anyone looks like and you'll still have a lot of fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here. "

Well said

, tried to make a similar point earlier on another thread, but failed miserably.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

For what it's worth I think it's legitinate question and the 'abuse' (for want of a better word) you've had for having a preference is unwarranted. Ladies want a gym fit, handsome, well hung hunk - not a problem. A guy sets out his preference - gets hell for it.

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow "

In a word - bollocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think people are having a go for him having preferences - he could have said I'm looking for younger slim women dressed to impress . No problem

What he said came across very different

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here. "

But neither does being overweight makes one attractive. It doesn't make one classy or personable. It doesn't make one have a more beautiful face. But all else being equal, having a great body is a good start

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a complete prick, well not compared to some

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the pretty girls go to Hed Kandi everyone knows that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Rubbish. How many threads do you read from men complaining about profiles from women who have a shopping list on there page.

Thet get slated just as much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think you could have worded your post better OP. But I think you would enjoy Le Boudoir. If you make the grade

S x"

Was just going to recommend Le Boudoir myself but my sexy friend (in my eyes) bet me to it. Will be going myself on Friday. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Rubbish. How many threads do you read from men complaining about profiles from women who have a shopping list on there page.

Thet get slated just as much. "

Nah they don't, they really don't! Not in the same way, I've never seen an outraged 'fat men can be attractive too!' post in those threads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Rubbish. How many threads do you read from men complaining about profiles from women who have a shopping list on there page.

Thet get slated just as much.

Nah they don't, they really don't! Not in the same way, I've never seen an outraged 'fat men can be attractive too!' post in those threads.

And I say that as a fat bloke!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie. "

I used your comment as a baseline. You wrote: "The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.". I pointed out that the same is true for overweight people too

And I went out to say that all else being equal (attractiveness, class, personality, beauty), having a great body is preferred to being overweight, except perhaps on FabS where being overweight may be considered better than having a great body

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

Nah, if a woman asked for a club where there was only attractive, classy people, I think she'd get the same treatment. It wasn't the preference, more equating classy and decent with attracted be and slim. I think people were trying to point out they're not mutually exclusive.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a complete prick, well not compared to some

Sometimes I'm glad I live oop North, as we don't have hotties only clubs here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman "

The did put in the FabS disclaimer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

So overweight people are only desirable on here?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Rubbish. How many threads do you read from men complaining about profiles from women who have a shopping list on there page.

Thet get slated just as much.

Nah they don't, they really don't! Not in the same way, I've never seen an outraged 'fat men can be attractive too!' post in those threads.

And I say that as a fat bloke!

Maybe they word it better.

Please post on here if your fit! Is better than 'don't post on here if your ugly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Rubbish. How many threads do you read from men complaining about profiles from women who have a shopping list on there page.

Thet get slated just as much.

Nah they don't, they really don't! Not in the same way, I've never seen an outraged 'fat men can be attractive too!' post in those threads.

And I say that as a fat bloke!

Maybe they word it better.

Please post on here if your fit! Is better than 'don't post on here if your ugly!

I accept the OP could have been (considerably) more diplomatic in expressing what he finds 'attractive'

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

So overweight people are only desirable on here?

I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

Where is a post like this done by a couple or woman where it's all 'you go womanco'? I remember one post created by someone who organises socials for people and she got torn to pieces over the fact that she vetted them. But obviously it's all man hate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

I'm in no doubt that if there was a size 12 version of me, it'd be more desirable to many. However, that wasn't the point of my post. The point was that comments berating and belittling overweight people are just getting boring now.

Would I turn around and say that men prefer younger women because they're more attractive!? No. That's because I'm aware that some men prefer older women and some don't. I'm not arrogant enough to make such a comment but many seem to think it's okay to do that about larger people.

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By *andi_shopWoman
over a year ago

rotherham

Good on you OP for having a preference that isn't BBC or BBW. If you find a party like the one you describe let me know (not that I'd get in)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey OP, I'm morbidly obese and wasn't offended by your post. However, us fatties can be attractive and classy. I always make an effort.

Everyone has suggested killing kittens, may I suggest the Vanilla Alternative? This club attracts lots of the type of people you're looking for. I've always been the fattest girl their, it's rate you get fat folk there.

Good luck in your search.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world"

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

I've been around long enough on the forums to know full well the difference in how people react to a guy posting about preferences vs a woman or couple.

Not every single thread will go the same way but the vast majority do.

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By *ed LipstickWoman
over a year ago

Fucksville

"I understand preference if ginger hair night or BBW night. But Attractive nights? How does this work?

Ginger hair night?

Tell me this is an actual thing.

If not. It should be. Red hot-red heads or something.

Right, the seed has been planted.

Let's get this organised!

I have red hair but I'm only lukewarm with freezing feet atm

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman "

According to Professor John Speakman at the University of Aberdeen, men are overwhelmingly more likely to find slimmer women more attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people"

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

It was the intimation that only slim people are classy that was offensive, not that he's looking for slim people. There is no correlation between someone's size and whether they are classy or make an effort in how they dress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

He meant them as two separate descriptors, he didn't say the two things went together.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people"

I suggest you read my post again. I didn't mention the OP. I was talking about the 4/5 posters who made comments about overweight people. Hence my reply to one of them.

I don't care if someone has a preference. We all do.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

I think folk here a tad too over-sensitive if the preference is not a BBW or SBBW; terms which are banded about on this website all the time. So much so that there is a continuous thread running on one of the forums on BBWs

I did *not* suggest that you are a BBW; you did!

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

I've been around long enough on the forums to know full well the difference in how people react to a guy posting about preferences vs a woman or couple.

Not every single thread will go the same way but the vast majority do.

I've been around for a bit too

My point being that in a thread like this the OP rarely fares well.

Yeah, men quite often get different responses to women if posting similar threads but I don't see why every thread needs to feature the 'Oh, it would be different if a woman/couple line'. when that's not always the case. Wording plays a key part in the thread's responses. As does the SP.

Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

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over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people"

It is a preference in society in general but not our preference. Attitude and personality attract us more, always these type of threads the people who have a preference for slim get hammered, so just to flip it on its head, we once arranged to meet a lovely lady at a BBW night god the dirty looks we got and a comment "what the fuck are they doing here" was overheard, slim bashing is far more prevalent in the swinging world than BBW bashing, why can't people accept other people's preferences, likes or dislikes?

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

Wasn't the last Heaven Circle a complete clusterfuck though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

I did *not* suggest that you are a BBW; you did!"

I didn't suggest you called me a BBW. but you did say overweight people are only desirable on here, which I pointed out is incorrect

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

Wasn't the last Heaven Circle a complete clusterfuck though?"

I don't know. I haven't even bothered with that one truth be told but hey. It might work for OP!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

I did *not* suggest that you are a BBW; you did!

I didn't suggest you called me a BBW. but you did say overweight people are only desirable on here, which I pointed out is incorrect "

No, I did not say that either. What I said was, "And I went out to say that all else being equal (attractiveness, class, personality, beauty), having a great body is preferred to being overweight, except perhaps on FabS where being overweight may be considered better than having a great body"

Your opinion that being overweightis preferred, is an equally valid opinion

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

Wasn't the last Heaven Circle a complete clusterfuck though?

I don't know. I haven't even bothered with that one truth be told but hey. It might work for OP!"

The clubs I go to might be full of fuglies, but at least they can organise a piss up in a brewery.

Anyway, OP's long gone. Very wise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway, OP's long gone. Very wise.

he's definitely made the right choice but I'm sure he'll be highly amused at the shit storm that has ensued since! I know I would be!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

I did *not* suggest that you are a BBW; you did!

I didn't suggest you called me a BBW. but you did say overweight people are only desirable on here, which I pointed out is incorrect

Your opinion that being overweightis preferred, is an equally valid opinion"

My opinion isn't that overweight people are preferred. My opinion is that overweight people aren't only preferred on here. There's a difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway, OP's long gone. Very wise.

he's definitely made the right choice but I'm sure he'll be highly amused at the shit storm that has ensued since! I know I would be!

He didn't even leave any popcorn!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

He meant them as two separate descriptors, he didn't say the two things went together. "

That was my interpretation too - he wanted slimmer people (fair enough, personal choice) and (separately) those with a bit of class (that he later justified / articulated as well dressed, tidy etc).

I personally didn't interpret it as him linking the two and saying that (all) larger people lacked class! I mean I'm a right classy dude and I've got some chub on me!

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

But the fact is that the majority of the men prefer younger women and would not even give me the time of day, were they able to hook up with a much younger version of me

The OP's preference simply reflects the preference of society in general. He wasn't berating overweight people

He wasn't, but you were. I'm perfectly desirable away from here as much as on it, without terms such as BBW too, thank you very much

I did *not* suggest that you are a BBW; you did!

I didn't suggest you called me a BBW. but you did say overweight people are only desirable on here, which I pointed out is incorrect

Your opinion that being overweightis preferred, is an equally valid opinion

My opinion isn't that overweight people are preferred. My opinion is that overweight people aren't only preferred on here. There's a difference

OK; that is your opinion and an equally valid one

I don't think that overweight people are preferred in the big-wide world; and that is my opinion

Nothing to do with berating overweight people, as you were suggesting

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anyone recommend a club/ particular party that caters for the more well heeled/ attractive members of fab as many of the clubs I have previously attended have been frequented by larger/ not so classy members "

That to me is implying larger people are not attractive, not classy and make no effort in how they dress.

It was poorly worded.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

That to me is implying larger people are not attractive, not classy and make no effort in how they dress.

It was poorly worded. "

He explained that he did not link the two but some folk just wouldn't let go. They are like a dog with a bone

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Certainly not intended to offend

Ok, nut being fat doesn't make one non-classy per se.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

I've been around long enough on the forums to know full well the difference in how people react to a guy posting about preferences vs a woman or couple.

Not every single thread will go the same way but the vast majority do.

I've been around for a bit too

My point being that in a thread like this the OP rarely fares well.

Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

I'd say most of the time the threads have differing outcomes due to on a fems thread there's many a mans tongue being firmly in search of a female arsehole to lick, whereas in general on a guys thread few are often Joan of Arc riding to his rescue.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

I've been around long enough on the forums to know full well the difference in how people react to a guy posting about preferences vs a woman or couple.

Not every single thread will go the same way but the vast majority do.

I've been around for a bit too

My point being that in a thread like this the OP rarely fares well.

Anyways OP, KK might be for you? Or there's Heaven Circle also and they do parties not too far from you.

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By *inky-MinxWoman
over a year ago

Grantham

"Certainly not intended to offend

Ok, nut being fat doesn't make one non-classy per se."

Nut?

But

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That to me is implying larger people are not attractive, not classy and make no effort in how they dress.

It was poorly worded.

He explained that he did not link the two but some folk just wouldn't let go. They are like a dog with a bone"

Are you calling people dogs now?

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

That to me is implying larger people are not attractive, not classy and make no effort in how they dress.

It was poorly worded.

He explained that he did not link the two but some folk just wouldn't let go. They are like a dog with a bone

Are you calling people dogs now?

No, It was a reference to dogging; woof, woof

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman

The did put in the FabS disclaimer

Aah that must be why my other half only talks to me on here even if he's stood next to me in the kitchen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure hiw far you would travel but LibertyElite Lutterworth is a really nice club, get on the guest list for either Chic or Sin parties. Hope that helps x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman

According to Professor John Speakman at the University of Aberdeen, men are overwhelmingly more likely to find slimmer women more attractive. "

Hence my use of the word 'some'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman "

Keyword: some.

It still blows my mind that people on Fab want to sit here and pretend slim to slim waist and wider hips isnt the generally preferred physical attribute of a woman.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

OP, if you are anywhere in or close to Central London, then try Le Boudoir

They do require a good quality (as in clear) fully clothed photograph from the waist up showing the face

However, be warned that even when the membership is accepted, single men have to write to the club when they wish to attend an event and they are then placed on a waiting list

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

No. She got "torn to pieces" because her socials were those where men were expected to behave like talking seals all in order to impress a bunch of women who had no problem vetting men attending but did not expect the same from themselves.

But go ahead and talk complete and utter rubbish to suit your argument.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman

Keyword: some.

It still blows my mind that people on Fab want to sit here and pretend slim to slim waist and wider hips isnt the generally preferred physical attribute of a woman. "

I'm not sure why you feel the need to point out a word to me that I typed with my own fingers .

The comment I replied to said 'having a great body is preferred to overweight except on fab' I was merely pointing out that's not always true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh dear, poor bugger only asked for club recommendations, he'd have got less reaction if he'd asked to piss in some bodies mouth while slapping them with a wet fish

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I absolutely love the fact when a single guy posts this type of thread he gets torn to pieces.

But a couple or a woman posts and it's yeah go you! Good for you! You're allowed your preferences.

But go ahead and talk complete and utter rubbish to suit your argument."

Second time I, regrettably, have to agree with you

Any man, worth his salt, would not wish to be demeaned like that and would rightly reject that kind on nonsense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP May I suggest a good way to see the clientele of a club is to go through the club reviews...most who have been leave reviews...im not a slim lady but I get what you mean about effort...nothing worse than spending time and effort trying to look good to be met by those who don't...i hope you find a venue which meets your requirements.

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

There is

Leboudoir club (they sent me a friends request I think was a mistake lol so left it there)

Killing kittens

Vanilla Alternative club

I'm sure there are one or two more

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

Your comment makes no sense to me, Josie.

Not necessarily true - some men prefer a woman who is bigger to a slim or gym fit woman

Keyword: some.

It still blows my mind that people on Fab want to sit here and pretend slim to slim waist and wider hips isnt the generally preferred physical attribute of a woman.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to point out a word to me that I typed with my own fingers .

The comment I replied to said 'having a great body is preferred to overweight except on fab' I was merely pointing out that's not always true "

You are absolutely correct; a great body compared to an overweight person is not just preferred in the main-stream world; it is preferred everywhere, including on FabS. Obviously, there are exceptions to the rule, as you have pointed out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size."

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

Just WOW. Reading Fab is worse than reading the Guardian/Buzzfeed. What happened? Its become one far lefty, "everyone deserves a participation medal" circlejerk. If its not people demanding that straight couples be attracted to their sexual orientation, its people wanting to convince us that men having a preference is some kind of cardinal sin.

I genuinely think swinging, as we know it, may be nearing serious decline. I have no fucking idea what kind of oddball behavioral expectations millennial swingers will be demanding. Probably walking around swinging clubs with affirmative consent forms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well heeled attractive members?

And you don't want to offend anyone?

Damn!

If you mean a club where you will fancy everyone in there, I think your looking for heaven.

Ohhh that made me laugh my arse off thank you

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By *eanut Butter CupWoman
over a year ago

B & M Bargains

"There is

Leboudoir club (they sent me a friends request I think was a mistake lol so left it there)

Killing kittens

Vanilla Alternative club

I'm sure there are one or two more

I've had le boudoir and VA suggested to me if I go on a road trip, but if they're non fatty friendly I may give them a miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is

Leboudoir club (they sent me a friends request I think was a mistake lol so left it there)

Killing kittens

Vanilla Alternative club

I'm sure there are one or two more

I've had le boudoir and VA suggested to me if I go on a road trip, but if they're non fatty friendly I may give them a miss

Clubs wouldn't last long if they chose to open for "elite" only ...both of those venues accept anyone with manors.. etiquette and identification...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

I feel a bit like that when I read your posts. It's that air of arrogance, but then you think everyone on Fab prefers your physique over anyone's. In fact I think you told me how highly in demand you are. Although we can see by your long and extensive list of verifications, that it's not the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Step by step guide to party with hot people.

Step 1. Block all windows and vents.

Step 2. Invite people over.

Step 3. Formal dress code.

Step 4. Serve spicy food and hot drinks.

Step 5. Play music.

You have a party and soon everyone will be very hot.

Easy peasy.

You are welcome."

Laughing here!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That to me is implying larger people are not attractive, not classy and make no effort in how they dress.

It was poorly worded. "

I have found that overweight and lack of effort often go hand in hand. Interestingly enough, ESPECIALLY in the case of men.

I have found that there are two types of larger women. The one who is truly comfortable with being large and those that are not and have simply found themselves at their current size for a myriad of reasons. I also will say I have met more of the latter than the former.

The women who are comfortable with their own weight...the "BBWs". Will not excessively seek out fad diets or try to remind me how much exercise they do. They understand their weight, understand that there are men who are very attracted to that shape and will maximize their appearance to seek out men who are very much looking for the larger women (and yes, I know they're out there...plenty of them).

Problem is, I have found that many on the scene (and outside) simply seem to be using it as a means of marketing their sexuality through their willingness to "experiment" more often than their more "conventionally" attractive counterparts. I find many complain about discrimination against the overweight when plenty discriminate against themselves.

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By *reakShow90Man
over a year ago

Manchester/halifax

Think clubs should have ugly only nights for us deemed not good looking enough for "hot"only nights lol

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here. "

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

And why take it personally. I am fifty. I tend to find that, given the choice, women will generally like to play with someone younger than me. That's the nature of the beast and there is nothing I can do about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

Maybe I should screenshot my inbox and prove it to you.

I know your insecurity and denial makes you desperate to believe that I am just not getting any requests on here...Its simply not the case. No matter how much you convince yourself that it is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

The difference being that I wouldn't make a comment about age because I don't feel it's particularly a fair thing to do. It's less about taking it personally and more about asking why people feel the need to make certain comments.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Think clubs should have ugly only nights for us deemed not good looking enough for "hot"only nights lol"

Dunno about that; but it would be great if they have a 'tall only' night; I walk around half the night thinking that the club is completely empty; and then I look down and it is full to the brim

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also, FYI, Killing Kitten's founder is a woman. A pretty connected one at that (I believe she attended middle school with Kate Middleton and is a confidant).

I have found that in many cases, its the women who are the ones willing to demand venues cater to more stringently selected clientele. But I am sure we can keep pretending that OP is alone in his "shallow" expectations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

Maybe I should screenshot my inbox and prove it to you.

I know your insecurity and denial makes you desperate to believe that I am just not getting any requests on here...Its simply not the case. No matter how much you convince yourself that it is. "

Sorry, I just don't believe you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

Maybe I should screenshot my inbox and prove it to you.

I know your insecurity and denial makes you desperate to believe that I am just not getting any requests on here...Its simply not the case. No matter how much you convince yourself that it is. "

I don't know about your inbox and don't really care but you do come across as very arrogant in all your posts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

"Feel the need"??

Last I checked the nature of a forum is to share differing opinions. My god, your whole outlook strikes me as incredibly childish. Perhaps we should introduce a safe space for Fabbers.

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By *reakShow90Man
over a year ago

Manchester/halifax

"Think clubs should have ugly only nights for us deemed not good looking enough for "hot"only nights lol

Dunno about that; but it would be great if they have a 'tall only' night; I walk around half the night thinking that the club is completely empty; and then I look down and it is full to the brim

Well thats me fucked for the hot night and the tall only nights

Goner have to have a short unfit bald nights then I might get laid lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

Maybe I should screenshot my inbox and prove it to you.

I know your insecurity and denial makes you desperate to believe that I am just not getting any requests on here...Its simply not the case. No matter how much you convince yourself that it is.

Sorry, I just don't believe you. "

Oh Fab, where the horny convince the desperate that a fuck affords their delusion validity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

"Feel the need"??

Last I checked the nature of a forum is to share differing opinions. My god, your whole outlook strikes me as incredibly childish. Perhaps we should introduce a safe space for Fabbers.

I already know you struggle with making sweeping generalisations and using your opinion as fact. Therefore, my whole point is probably lost on you.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

Swinging is not fair per se given that we are all choosing to have sex or not have sex with people based on relatively superficial attributes.

There are some people who prefer to have sex with the older or more overweight person, but I really don't understand why someone would get upset by pointing out the bleeding obvious fact that. On the whole, people prefer to have sex with the younger, slimmer people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

Part two will make this thread too big and someone is likely to be offended by that

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health"

They have stopped using size zero models. Models are now a healthy 10 - 14. How often do you browse through Cosmopolitan?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

Part two will make this thread too big and someone is likely to be offended by that"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health

They have stopped using size zero models. Models are now a healthy 10 - 14. How often do you browse through Cosmopolitan?"

You are equating dress size with health. Try again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

"Feel the need"??

Last I checked the nature of a forum is to share differing opinions. My god, your whole outlook strikes me as incredibly childish. Perhaps we should introduce a safe space for Fabbers.

I already know you struggle with making sweeping generalisations and using your opinion as fact. Therefore, my whole point is probably lost on you. "

Eugh. Everything u say is just a laundry list of cliched newspeak. I really pity those of you when it comes to having to learn to deal with "vanilla" relationships. When easy sex is no longer an incentive provided one listen to the nonsense many of you come out with, a rude awakening awaits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

Part two will make this thread too big and someone is likely to be offended by that"

Behave, nothing would go on longer than your profile text

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health

They have stopped using size zero models. Models are now a healthy 10 - 14. How often do you browse through Cosmopolitan?

You are equating dress size with health. Try again"

No, you try again; dress/body size equates to BMI and BFI and waistline. You are welcome to keep deluding yourself; many do here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health

They have stopped using size zero models. Models are now a healthy 10 - 14. How often do you browse through Cosmopolitan?

You are equating dress size with health. Try again"

But...it is.

You waistline plays a significant role in your dress size. Your waistline is determined by the amount of fat in the abdominal area. Abdominal fat is one of the primary risk factors with many lifestyle related diseases.

This is basic biology. Come on man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

Swinging is not fair per se given that we are all choosing to have sex or not have sex with people based on relatively superficial attributes.

I'm not upset, just calling you out on your comment. I've read countless posts from the same people stating that "very few" men like larger ladies. That slimness equates to attractiveness, etc. That larger people don't get laid away from Fab.

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By *osieWoman
over a year ago

Wembley

"Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

Part two will make this thread too big and someone is likely to be offended by that

Behave, nothing would go on longer than your profile text

It is wip; isn't finished yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can of worms opened there Hun ! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

Swinging is not fair per se given that we are all choosing to have sex or not have sex with people based on relatively superficial attributes.

LOL. So let me get this straight. Do you genuinely men, on average, are just as attracted to larger/overweight women as they are to slimmer ones? Really?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone's going to open a part 2 of this when it fills up, yes? Please say it will be so!

Part two will make this thread too big and someone is likely to be offended by that

Behave, nothing would go on longer than your profile text

It is wip; isn't finished yet

I'll be honest, I didn't read it. I'd be hard pressed to find something likeable given most of your posts in these forums.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

"Feel the need"??

Last I checked the nature of a forum is to share differing opinions. My god, your whole outlook strikes me as incredibly childish. Perhaps we should introduce a safe space for Fabbers.

I already know you struggle with making sweeping generalisations and using your opinion as fact. Therefore, my whole point is probably lost on you.

Have you ever had a vanilla relationship? How long did they last for if you did?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think so; I've never seen an overweight woman make it to the cover of Cosmopolitan, Women's Own or any other mainstream magazine. But BBWs and SBBWs are in great demand here

But hey, people will believe whatever they want to believe in this PC world

I'd hate my daughter to look at those things and see them as a barometer of how she should look. Healthy and happy is all that I want for her and healthy doesn't necessarily mean a certain size.

Healthy almost always means a certain weight considering just how many risk factors are associated with excessive adipose tissue around the abdominal area.

That isn't the message presented by those magazines though.

Healthy doesn't come in to it. Looking 'good' in particular clothes is what they are selling often at the expense of being healthy.

As an obese man you should really know the difference between a look and health

They have stopped using size zero models. Models are now a healthy 10 - 14. How often do you browse through Cosmopolitan?

You are equating dress size with health. Try again

No, you try again; dress/body size equates to BMI and BFI and waistline. You are welcome to keep deluding yourself; many do here"

BMI is an outdated pointless measure of health. Mr Superfreak is almost certainly at the obese end of the BMI scale. Although even then you may not consider him to be 'healthy' compared to a cross fit fanatic.

Maggie Alphonsi is a super fit athlete and probably the most famous woman rugby player in the U.K.

Put her stats into a BMI calculator and it will flash warnings at you. She is not unhealthy at all.

Saying someone in a size 10 dress is healthier than size 16 may work in some cases but definitely not all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Call it shallow if you will, but then one might say the whole idea of swinging is shallow

Do you know what, why would you even feel the need to make this comment!? How does a thread about preferences and attractiveness always end with someone having a dig at people who are overweight!?

The funny thing is, having a great body doesn't make you attractive. It doesn't make you classy or personable. It doesn't make you have a more beautiful face.

I'm so sick of the people who feel the need to berate people who are larger. Throw around comments about us always being second choice or only getting laid because of the male/female ratio on here.

I am not having a dig at anyone. What I have stated is an actual fact as can be observed in any club.

"Feel the need"??

Last I checked the nature of a forum is to share differing opinions. My god, your whole outlook strikes me as incredibly childish. Perhaps we should introduce a safe space for Fabbers.

I already know you struggle with making sweeping generalisations and using your opinion as fact. Therefore, my whole point is probably lost on you.

Oh Malcolm, your arrogance is brilliant. You're now claiming to know about relationships away from Fab. C'mon, really!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"LOL. So let me get this straight. Do you genuinely men, on average, are just as attracted to larger/overweight women as they are to slimmer ones? Really?"

Where did I say this!? I didn't.

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By *eliWoman
over a year ago

"Eugh. Everything u say is just a laundry list of cliched newspeak. I really pity those of you when it comes to having to learn to deal with "vanilla" relationships. When easy sex is no longer an incentive provided one listen to the nonsense many of you come out with, a rude awakening awaits. "

Eurgh. What is that crap?

The belief that if you write offensively enough you won't be challenged on the utter bollocks that appears is strong.

Honestly, when a thread pops up like this you know which posters will appear with their usual vitriolic crap and expect all to cower in their wake. And the ones who want to 'stir' with their daft observations.

Yeah, people have preferences. Don't be a twunt about those who don't match yours.

I have no fucking idea what will happen to swinging if the supposedly 'successful' millenials take their aggressive faux alpha crap to the scene.

OP because the actual answers to your OP has been lost amongst the hateful crap I've compiled a list of answers.

Killing Kittens

Le Boudoir

Heaven Circle and

Fever Parties.

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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"You waistline plays a significant role in your dress size. Your waistline is determined by the amount of fat in the abdominal area. Abdominal fat is one of the primary risk factors with many lifestyle related diseases.

This is basic biology. Come on man. "

Waistline maybe, dress size, no. I could wear a larger dress size than someone 6" shorter than me yet look thinner. Does that make me healthier though?

Women come in all different shapes and sizes, and shouldn't be vilified for that. We struggle enough to live up to men's views on how we look without you guys fat shaming anyone more robust than Kate Moss. And if anyone bothered reading some of the posts, the problem was not with the OPs preference for thinner ladies, but his attitude that larger women were classless and skint.

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By *rmrseptemberCouple
over a year ago

Tonbridge

"OP Killing Kittens as has been mentioned many times before sounds the ticket for you.

I hope you have fun!

I hope you find what you're looking for and good luck!

Not all women like well hung hunks, I adore all sorts, everyone has something attractive about them....I'm lucky I suppose

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