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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

The last one filled up, so I'll jhst carry on here. Here's the originally forum post.

I'm a single guy, but if i had a girlfriend i personally wouldn't want to introduce her to this world. I'd much rather not swing at all if i went out with someone. Is this one sided of me because I would have sex with someones, but wouldn't think about it if I was in a relationship.

Thoughts and opinions please!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

That's a interesting way of putting it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

LOL! To be honest it's all a bit of fun. But I guess subconsciously I do actually give GF's a level of attainment. I think a lot of us do that, unless it's just me and every other male friend that I've ever had who think this way.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

So how does it pan out that you meet your level 1 & it turns out to her you are a 2 at best?

S

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

Gosh!

There are levels of women and the sex you have with certain levels is the equivalent of treating them like a whore!?

That's an 'interesting" way of looking at women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

So how does it pan out that you meet your level 1 & it turns out to her you are a 2 at best?

S"

LOL! Never gonna happen.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

And single blokes wonder why they struggle to meet swingers.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would not advise someone to swing with a new girlfriend. Best to concentrate on building the relationship. However for those who believe in monogamy so only swing when not in a relationship, fair play to them. Everybody is different. But the guys we take on for more meaningful friendships are all swingers at heart, and have or would swing irrespective of their relationship status. We feel more confortable with guys who share our outlook of non-monogamy. If we were to take on a guy who would not be prepared to share his partner, then he is unlikely to understand us. I'm not sure we want to play with a man who can't relate to why we do this. There is also a risk that a man who doesn't like to share his partner, is unlikely to want to share me if I become his married lover, that is particularly intolerable.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And single blokes wonder why they struggle to meet swingers....."

Its because they are single males wanting to have sex.

And sites like this seem a good place to find willing people to have sex with.

They are here hoping to fuck not to date or take you home to meet their parent's.

Alot of guys see women in places like this as whores to fuck and nothing more.

Some wouldn't contemplate having a relationship with any as they feel they wouldnt be able to respect them.

Its a bit like the old saying...

Gentlemen like Blondes but they always marry brunettes?

I think some women wouldn't have a relationship with guys off sites like this either for the same reasons?

Funny things people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess."

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

that's funny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?"

Sure if they genuinely have absolutely no desire to experience sex with anybody else ever again, then of course. How many sexually adventurous people can honestly say that though? Some do lose that desire when they are in a relationship I'm sure, but I think a lot of people get jealous at the thought of their partner having sex with someone else, to which I would question why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

Sure if they genuinely have absolutely no desire to experience sex with anybody else ever again, then of course. How many sexually adventurous people can honestly say that though? Some do lose that desire when they are in a relationship I'm sure, but I think a lot of people get jealous at the thought of their partner having sex with someone else, to which I would question why?"

Some probably may not like it because it would make them feel uncomfortable and of course jealousy may play a part.

But isnt a bit of jealousy in a relationship healthy?

Some people just dont feel the need to share their partners with anyone else as its of no interest to either parties to do so as they have everything they need from a relationship with each other.

It can really be as simple as that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

I feel like this is such an outdated, though very well articulated, view to have of relationships. If I were a level 1 gf that was only treated with slow, sensual sex and deprived the dirty, filthy sex I desired then I would not be a level 1 gf for long because I'd find someone who loves me The way I am and who's opions of me are not marred by my sexual satisfaction.

It also kind of feels like you're saying the women that do swing or enjoy "dirty" sexual activity, particularly those in relationships, are not capable of being respectable women worthy of level 1 status.

This is one of the reasons men cheat on women they truly love. A woman can be a respectful lady and a dirty freak at the same time. You do not need two women to fulfill this role, if only you could modernise your views and accept that the right one woman can be all of these things and more!

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple
over a year ago

Bristol


"The last one filled up, so I'll jhst carry on here. Here's the originally forum post.

I'm a single guy, but if i had a girlfriend i personally wouldn't want to introduce her to this world. I'd much rather not swing at all if i went out with someone. Is this one sided of me because I would have sex with someones, but wouldn't think about it if I was in a relationship.

Thoughts and opinions please!"

Your choice, but every time a single says the above or a variation of it, we no longer have intrest in meeting them.

Have lots of mps of how a guy likes wiggles and how he would never share her if she was with him.. every one gets a no ta.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?"

No not at all. It's not about whether you're having sex with other people or not, it's about whether you're restricting that person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?"

When my husband and I had been together for about a year and a half and married for less than a year, he was living during the week in Scotland, which required a great deal of trust on my part, as he was out drinking most nights due to having no proper home to go to. One night he didnt answer his mobile. I was frantic and convinced he was with someone else. As it turned out it was fine. But i was not ready for him to have sex with other women because our relationship was still immature. It doesn't bother me in the least now, because after nearly 12 years of marriage i feel secure that it has no baring on our relationship. If another woman gives him something that I don't, I am happy for him in the same way I am pleased for him if someone cooks him a better or different meal than I am capable of. Having said that it took him much longer than me to reach that level of security. We are all different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

No not at all. It's not about whether you're having sex with other people or not, it's about whether you're restricting that person.

"

Yes so these Guys are looking for women to date who dont feel they are restricting themselves and are happy just being with one another and dont feel the need or want to share or involve others.

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over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel like this is such an outdated, though very well articulated, view to have of relationships. If I were a level 1 gf that was only treated with slow, sensual sex and deprived the dirty, filthy sex I desired then I would not be a level 1 gf for long because I'd find someone who loves me The way I am and who's opions of me are not marred by my sexual satisfaction.

It also kind of feels like you're saying the women that do swing or enjoy "dirty" sexual activity, particularly those in relationships, are not capable of being respectable women worthy of level 1 status.

This is one of the reasons men cheat on women they truly love. A woman can be a respectful lady and a dirty freak at the same time. You do not need two women to fulfill this role, if only you could modernise your views and accept that the right one woman can be all of these things and more!"

In my experience if you 'allow' a women to be everything she can be then she'll reward you in ways you cannot imagine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

No not at all. It's not about whether you're having sex with other people or not, it's about whether you're restricting that person.

Yes so these Guys are looking for women to date who dont feel they are restricting themselves and are happy just being with one another and dont feel the need or want to share or involve others.

"

I don't feel the need to ride my motorbike around a sharp bend while banking it over and scraping the side anymore. We're all different and have different desires, my view is that we shouldn't restrict others from following their desires.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

When my husband and I had been together for about a year and a half and married for less than a year, he was living during the week in Scotland, which required a great deal of trust on my part, as he was out drinking most nights due to having no proper home to go to. One night he didnt answer his mobile. I was frantic and convinced he was with someone else. As it turned out it was fine. But i was not ready for him to have sex with other women because our relationship was still immature. It doesn't bother me in the least now, because after nearly 12 years of marriage i feel secure that it has no baring on our relationship. If another woman gives him something that I don't, I am happy for him in the same way I am pleased for him if someone cooks him a better or different meal than I am capable of. Having said that it took him much longer than me to reach that level of security. We are all different. "

Some people are extremely secure in their monogamous relationships more so possibly than some swingers relationships.

As some people swing as a last ditch attempt to try and rescue their crumbling relationship because they fear if they didnt either their partner would cheat or it would be the end of their relationship.

I know alot of swingers who are definately not in secure relationships.

Quite the opposite really.

But like anything else.. Some People can refuse to face up to the truth and stay in denial and that is their choice.

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By *ecretpassion100Couple
over a year ago

Walsall

We met as singles on the scene and since that moment have never swung or swapped ....we have just got engaged and are getting married next year ....we would never go down the swinging route as a couple but do remain on the scene for numerous other reasons such as all our freinds the social aspect andvthe fact we are bi we will play bi with same sex ....we have the most wonderful relationship and life on the scene without having to share each other with the opposite sex ... .and yes we have the slow passionate love making and hot and steamy sex ....so lucky we have it all xxx

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By *reedy_for_funCouple
over a year ago

My House

I personally think it all smacks of double standards.

If you'd never allow your gf or wife to swing but you do get to do it or carry on doing it, you're amazing pillock. You deserve to be found out, castrated and hung from the nearest lamppost.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I personally think it all smacks of double standards.

If you'd never allow your gf or wife to swing but you do get to do it or carry on doing it, you're amazing pillock. You deserve to be found out, castrated and hung from the nearest lamppost.

"

Yes but were not on about people who swing who dont allow there partner to do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve? "

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve? "

I don't know if we will ever get to a stage where women aren't judged to be somehow less than other women because they enjoy sex in different ways. How sad is that.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship "

I think the use of the word "level" tells us what we need to know.

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over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

I think the use of the word "level" tells us what we need to know. "

Yes like I said...

Hes basically saying ok to use for a fuck but thats all.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

I don't know if we will ever get to a stage where women aren't judged to be somehow less than other women because they enjoy sex in different ways. How sad is that. "

Don't you think women think like that too? I know I do, the level thing actually made sense to me, of how unconsciously I judge men too......

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By (user no longer on site)
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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship "

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners. "

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

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over a year ago

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

I don't know if we will ever get to a stage where women aren't judged to be somehow less than other women because they enjoy sex in different ways. How sad is that.

Don't you think women think like that too? I know I do, the level thing actually made sense to me, of how unconsciously I judge men too......"

I don't judge men like that. I'd married a swinger (although he stopped when he starting dating me), and I would not feel comfortable in a relationship with a man who wasn't a bit of a player. I like men who are like myself.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

I think the use of the word "level" tells us what we need to know.

Yes like I said...

Hes basically saying ok to use for a fuck but thats all. "

I read it differently but as a woman I suppose I would. Do most guys feel this way? I've been with a man who celebrates and encourages my sexuality for 37 years and while I knew that this attitude towards women existed I wasn't aware it was still so prevalent across the generations.

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By *mf4BxJCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

Don't even know where to begin with this one...

From a level 1, 2 and 3 wife who likes to be ridden hard and cuddled.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1 "

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners. "

Yes some people maybe have had their variety with different partners in the past and dont feel they are missing out and so are very happy to be in a monogamous relationship with the right person .

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

I don't know if we will ever get to a stage where women aren't judged to be somehow less than other women because they enjoy sex in different ways. How sad is that.

Don't you think women think like that too? I know I do, the level thing actually made sense to me, of how unconsciously I judge men too......"

I don't personally. I don't want to put men in boxes according to how I have sex with them. I agree that I could never make love with anyone but Mr N but that's because I love him and we have that level of intimacy between us, not because I can't have hot dirty sex with him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1. "

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway."

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago

Wherever the party is!


"The last one filled up, so I'll jhst carry on here. Here's the originally forum post.

I'm a single guy, but if i had a girlfriend i personally wouldn't want to introduce her to this world. I'd much rather not swing at all if i went out with someone. Is this one sided of me because I would have sex with someones, but wouldn't think about it if I was in a relationship.

Thoughts and opinions please!"

Not reading the whole thread but this entirely misses the point of being in the lifestyle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1 "

I interpreted it that level 1 cannot be combined with level 2 and 3, but I could be wrong. Perhaps he should clarify what he meant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

Yes some people maybe have had their variety with different partners in the past and dont feel they are missing out and so are very happy to be in a monogamous relationship with the right person ."

Yes indeed. I acknowledged that some lose that interest for variety they used to enjoy once in relationship.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts."

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

A part 2 OP, really??

I think you're just a young guy who wants to get his cock wet with girls you consider to be easy pickings because they're on a swingers site but you wouldn't date anyone from here because they're not worthy enough to meet your mother.

Oh dear. Grow up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

Yes some people maybe have had their variety with different partners in the past and dont feel they are missing out and so are very happy to be in a monogamous relationship with the right person .

Yes indeed. I acknowledged that some lose that interest for variety they used to enjoy once in relationship. "

Its not losing interest as such its more about being sated and satifisfied in your life and relationship.

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"The last one filled up, so I'll jhst carry on here. Here's the originally forum post.

I'm a single guy, but if i had a girlfriend i personally wouldn't want to introduce her to this world. I'd much rather not swing at all if i went out with someone. Is this one sided of me because I would have sex with someones, but wouldn't think about it if I was in a relationship.

Thoughts and opinions please!

Not reading the whole thread but this entirely misses the point of being in the lifestyle."

Think you need to read the whole thread then to get an idea what its actually about

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with."

Well if he really think level 2 and 3 women are slappers with no dignity and morals, what does that make him,considering he's on this site looking for the same? Also a slapper with no dignity and morals?

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

Yes some people maybe have had their variety with different partners in the past and dont feel they are missing out and so are very happy to be in a monogamous relationship with the right person .

Yes indeed. I acknowledged that some lose that interest for variety they used to enjoy once in relationship.

Its not losing interest as such its more about being sated and satifisfied in your life and relationship. "

Of course. So as a result of being sated and satisfied in their sex life, they no longer want to have sex with anybody else. I have no issues with that.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with.

Well if he really think level 2 and 3 women are slappers with no dignity and morals, what does that make him,considering he's on this site looking for the same? Also a slapper with no dignity and morals? "

Yes exactly.

Thats why I mentioned some women also feel like he does when picking a guy to date.

Its not just a man thing.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with.

Well if he really think level 2 and 3 women are slappers with no dignity and morals, what does that make him,considering he's on this site looking for the same? Also a slapper with no dignity and morals?

Yes exactly.

Thats why I mentioned some women also feel like he does when picking a guy to date.

Its not just a man thing. "

You mean there are women who have a lot of sexual partners, but when it comes to choosing a lifelong partner they would rather go for a man who has had minimal partners?

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with.

Well if he really think level 2 and 3 women are slappers with no dignity and morals, what does that make him,considering he's on this site looking for the same? Also a slapper with no dignity and morals?

Yes exactly.

Thats why I mentioned some women also feel like he does when picking a guy to date.

Its not just a man thing.

You mean there are women who have a lot of sexual partners, but when it comes to choosing a lifelong partner they would rather go for a man who has had minimal partners?"

No.

I mean what hes said but from.a womans perspective.

Some women think guys level 2 and 3 are ok for some fun but they want a relationship with a level 1

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I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

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"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol."

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

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"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too. "

But does he mean that anybody who uses a swing site is not level 1 material? And if he believes that, he should realise that he uses a swing site, therefore can't be level 1 material either.

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"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

I feel that's a real shame for guys who think like that. They get their level one gf, who they love, make love to, introduce to their family. But they get the dirty filthy sex from their level 2 or 3 gf. Assuming these guys aren't going to cheat on their level 1 gf, I can only guess that they are prepared to now go without the dirty filthy sex that they used to enjoy from there less worthy level 2 and 3 girlfriends. Or do they cheat to get the best of both worlds, in which case they are no better than the level 2 and 3 girlfriends who weren't worthy of being made love to or meeting the family. I think my husband is lucky as he got a level 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one. But if a man can't get past that outdated view that one only marries 'nice girls' who don't do the filthy stuff, then for a sexually adventurous guy he is missing out. And what does that achieve?

Some girls and men can be 1 2 and 3 all rolled into one and are very happy in monogamous relationships too

I think what he was saying is....

Some girls are ok for a fuck but I wouldnt have a relationship with them?

But if I can have a 1 2 and 3 nice girl all rolled into one ? Then they would be very happy in a monogamous relationship

But I don't think he was saying it's possible to have 1, 2 and 3 all rolled into one, I got the impression that he felt thewomen who gave him filthy sex could never be level

1.

But on the matter of all rolled into one, that still restricts variety. But that's personal choice as to whether someone needs variety of partners, and the variations in sexual experiences that go with that variety of partners.

No he said level 1's bedroom antics you dont discuss with anyone like fight club. He never said you couldnt have 2 and 3 with a 1

He says level 2 and 3 you get hot dirty sex you can't do with level 1.

I think he means swinging with a level 1 . But he wouldnt want to do that with her anyway.

As I said I'm reading this from a female view and I think he means that the woman he wants to be with long term will be pure and on a pedestal, unsullied by whore-like appetites for hot dirty sex (he has used those words and phrases). While the lower levels of women are as you said ok to fuck. I think its the wrong way to look at women but it takes all sorts.

Yes you are partly correct.

He wants a level 1 whos great in bed but but not a slapper and of a moralistic nature in his mind so worthy of a relationship.

The other levels 2 and 3 are sluts without dignity and morals and are worth nothing more than a bit of fun and are not the type he would consider a relationship with.

Well if he really think level 2 and 3 women are slappers with no dignity and morals, what does that make him,considering he's on this site looking for the same? Also a slapper with no dignity and morals?

Yes exactly.

Thats why I mentioned some women also feel like he does when picking a guy to date.

Its not just a man thing.

You mean there are women who have a lot of sexual partners, but when it comes to choosing a lifelong partner they would rather go for a man who has had minimal partners?"

No, someone whose happy with me, and not wanting to shag others, number of past partners is irrelevant.

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

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Sorry but it doesn't matter what you think, that's your way of thinking and that's fine, it's interesting that you want to share those views.

For my wife and I, we share a trust that is happy to see the other half enjoying and living out a sexual fantasy.

At twenty one years old it's not surprising that you feel that way but as you become more experienced and in a long term loving relationship you may change your opinion. I know that is patronising but it's also very likely.

Good luck.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too. "

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

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over a year ago


"Sorry but it doesn't matter what you think, that's your way of thinking and that's fine, it's interesting that you want to share those views.

For my wife and I, we share a trust that is happy to see the other half enjoying and living out a sexual fantasy.

At twenty one years old it's not surprising that you feel that way but as you become more experienced and in a long term loving relationship you may change your opinion. I know that is patronising but it's also very likely.

Good luck. "

The operative word there is May ?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1."

He also says that level one doesn't want to be treated like a whore, the implication being that level 2 and 3 do. I don't know why I'm surprised by this but I am.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1."

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

I think it is a bit op,ive seen a lot of that on here ,I wasnt looking for anything more than fun when i met Jack here .

However we like the lifestyle and decided to continue to as a couple.

Finding someone of a similar mindset is all good from my point of view .

Miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

He also says that level one doesn't want to be treated like a whore, the implication being that level 2 and 3 do. I don't know why I'm surprised by this but I am."

Hes basically saying he has hot and filthy sex with his no 1 but he doesnt treat her like a whore.

He treats level 2 and 3 like whores as he obviously has no respect gor them.

They are just there to be used for fun only and arnt girlfiend material in his opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...This is one of the reasons men cheat on women they truly love...."

I don't think men don't cheat on women they truly love. If you truly love someone you don't cheat.

Deceit, lying and screwing around on someone behind their back, is never indicative of true "love". It's deception, it's self-serving entitlement and just plain nasty behaviour.

If you truly LOVE someone, you respect them enough to be honest with them about what you want and let them go if they don't match what you want.

I don't think anyone who has had the hideous experience of being cheated on by someone they trusted, has felt truly loved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

Aw well, good to know us kinky wives are whores

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

...you're brave (foolish?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it."

True he did say that. But immediately before he said this 'Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1'. I, and others have taken that to mean that he can't have the really hot dirty sex with his level 1, although does go on to say that level 1 sex is still horny but you don't talk about it. So I don't really know what he means.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it."

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

"

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it "

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??"

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

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over a year ago


"The last one filled up, so I'll jhst carry on here. Here's the originally forum post.

I'm a single guy, but if i had a girlfriend i personally wouldn't want to introduce her to this world. I'd much rather not swing at all if i went out with someone. Is this one sided of me because I would have sex with someones, but wouldn't think about it if I was in a relationship.

Thoughts and opinions please!"

Yes it is I would love a partner who swinged I used to when married

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I don't agree with the post saying "and single guys wonder why they struggle to meet swingers" .

Single guys don't struggle to meet swingers, in my opinion, some single guys struggle and that is because they have no experience.

It is far easier swinging as a single guy than as a couple because it is not easy getting a couple to like another couple (couples know this truth) and most couples are swinging for single guys.

Single guys, most guys within a couple just want to watch their girls get fucked and join in and trust me these women are very very hot (10/10) and the guys are very well off, its a mental statement when a guy says I just want to watch you with my wife , what he is saying is I have made it.

Single guys you just have to research and know which party to go to, so please single guys don't look down and out , keep your head up and keep on having fun, as this community is also for you

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it "

Ok. This is my last word (I promise )

If that's the case why does he say he can't have hot and dirty sex with his level one?.

I think we probably broadly agree anyway and since he hasn't clarified we'll probably never know what he really thinks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Ok. This is my last word (I promise )

If that's the case why does he say he can't have hot and dirty sex with his level one?.

I think we probably broadly agree anyway and since he hasn't clarified we'll probably never know what he really thinks.

"

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it

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over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt "

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could every regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?"

Looks like you cant keep to your promises doesnt it

Ok. This is my last word (I promise )

Obviously not

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Ok. This is my last word (I promise )

If that's the case why does he say he can't have hot and dirty sex with his level one?.

I think we probably broadly agree anyway and since he hasn't clarified we'll probably never know what he really thinks.

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it "

Mmmprf mumble mmrrfpb. That's me not answering

Can't and not that he doesn't mean different things to you and me then.

Damn....I answered lol

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over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

"

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could every regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Looks like you cant keep to your promises doesnt it

Ok. This is my last word (I promise )

Obviously not "

That wasn't me...damn I did it again

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"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve himself. "

Its not his fault as hes one of many many guys who think and do the same.

You really have led a sheltered life like you mentioned in the other thread?

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over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

"

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve respect. He's actually behaving exactly like the women he disrespects.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve respect. He's actually behaving exactly like the women he disrespects. "

Yes but some Guys have no intention of dating any of these women he has no respect for.

Its all a one big laugh to some Guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve himself.

Its not his fault as hes one of many many guys who think and do the same.

You really have led a sheltered life like you mentioned in the other thread? "

Did I say I'd had a sheltered life? I haven't had a sheltered life. Far from it.

I am actually very aware, as I've said in many threads that a vast quantity of men use this site because they think they can get i free prostetute. So I, and probably a few others, was using his statement as an example of double standards and hypocrisy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve respect. He's actually behaving exactly like the women he disrespects.

Yes but some Guys have no intention of dating any of these women he has no respect for.

Its all a one big laugh to some Guys."

But they are just as 'bad' as these women they don't respect, because they are doing the same thing. So if they apply the same rules, presumable they don't respect themselves. Unless of there is one rule for men and another for men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve respect. He's actually behaving exactly like the women he disrespects.

Yes but some Guys have no intention of dating any of these women he has no respect for.

Its all a one big laugh to some Guys.

But they are just as 'bad' as these women they don't respect, because they are doing the same thing. So if they apply the same rules, presumable they don't respect themselves. Unless of there is one rule for men and another for men. "

Yes of course in the guys mind its one rule for them.

The womens opinions dont come into it as the guys arnt looking to date these level 2 and 3 women as OP mentioned.

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

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By *umasutraCouple
over a year ago

Guildford


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess."

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

He clearly said he doesn't have filthy sex with level 1.

You still trying to pick holes in what he meant ?

Ive cut n pasted this for you...

Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

I'm not, I'm interpreting what he wrote differently to you.

Here's a copy and paste for you

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore.

Yes like ive said hes said he said its not like he doesnt have hot dirty sex with his level one as he chooses not to talk about it as he doesnt treat her like a whore.

Level 2 and 3 he treats like whores and tells his mates all about it

Arh so it's the talking about it that makes the difference between the 'nice' girls and the whores ??

It means he has levels of who he respects and doesnt

Ok, but I'm curious as to whether he could ever regard someone from Fab as level 1, or if he could have respect for someone from Fab. Does he respect himself? And why would anybody have sex with someone they disrespect? And why would he want to brag down the pub about fucking someone he doesn't respect?

Some Guys laugh about women theve fucked with their friends down the pub etc and show them pics and videos of what theve done with them too.

Its what they do with women they have no respect for.

Well if he fucks women he has no respect for, then laughs with his mates in the pub about it, then goes on Fab to find more women to brag about, then in my book he doesn't deserve himself.

Its not his fault as hes one of many many guys who think and do the same.

You really have led a sheltered life like you mentioned in the other thread?

Did I say I'd had a sheltered life? I haven't had a sheltered life. Far from it.

I am actually very aware, as I've said in many threads that a vast quantity of men use this site because they think they can get i free prostetute. So I, and probably a few others, was using his statement as an example of double standards and hypocrisy.

"

I think he's getting you and me mixed up.

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London


"Sorry but it doesn't matter what you think, that's your way of thinking and that's fine, it's interesting that you want to share those views.

For my wife and I, we share a trust that is happy to see the other half enjoying and living out a sexual fantasy.

At twenty one years old it's not surprising that you feel that way but as you become more experienced and in a long term loving relationship you may change your opinion. I know that is patronising but it's also very likely.

Good luck.

The operative word there is May ?

"

Yes and who cares, there's always room for another selfish lonely guy in world :-/

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

A lot of chics might not understand what this means but guys understand it straight away,

because this is a non-swinging player code.

A guy can be with a girl without liking her , it's about the sex, these are the level 2 and 3 girls.

A woman needs some kind of connection to be with a man, a man does not need any connection to be with a woman , its in our nature, that's why a guy would have a very beautiful girlfriend and cheat on her with an average girl, it does not mean he does not like his girlfriend the other girl is just a side piece which he does not really like, it's just about the sex.

When it comes to swingers it is different because most swinging ladies in a couple are level 1 girls in very strong relationships, they have reached the point where they need to spice up their relationships to make it stronger ,if not it might break .

Swinging makes relationships stronger because you keep getting so many young handsome guys telling these women they are beautiful and the boyfriends or husband can hear this.

Also some men who are successful just like watching their wife or girlfriends get fucked.

The question is what makes a woman level1,2 or 3 , in my opinion beauty , character , ability to make the man believe more in himself, good luck and also the ability to take the role of a mother in a mans life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry but it doesn't matter what you think, that's your way of thinking and that's fine, it's interesting that you want to share those views.

For my wife and I, we share a trust that is happy to see the other half enjoying and living out a sexual fantasy.

At twenty one years old it's not surprising that you feel that way but as you become more experienced and in a long term loving relationship you may change your opinion. I know that is patronising but it's also very likely.

Good luck.

The operative word there is May ?

Yes and who cares, there's always room for another selfish lonely guy in world :-/"

All because guys dont want to share their partners doesnt mean they are selfish or will end up lonely

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

A lot of chics might not understand what this means but guys understand it straight away,

because this is a non-swinging player code.

A guy can be with a girl without liking her , it's about the sex, these are the level 2 and 3 girls.

A woman needs some kind of connection to be with a man, a man does not need any connection to be with a woman , its in our nature, that's why a guy would have a very beautiful girlfriend and cheat on her with an average girl, it does not mean he does not like his girlfriend the other girl is just a side piece which he does not really like, it's just about the sex.

When it comes to swingers it is different because most swinging ladies in a couple are level 1 girls in very strong relationships, they have reached the point where they need to spice up their relationships to make it stronger ,if not it might break .

Swinging makes relationships stronger because you keep getting so many young handsome guys telling these women they are beautiful and the boyfriends or husband can hear this.

Also some men who are successful just like watching their wife or girlfriends get fucked.

The question is what makes a woman level1,2 or 3 , in my opinion beauty , character , ability to make the man believe more in himself, good luck and also the ability to take the role of a mother in a mans life."

Complete bullshit. The level 1 ladies in married couples need the false compliments of a spare man to keep their marriage from breaking down? I also find it very telling that your level 1 woman has beauty, character and the ability to bolster a mans self confidence whilst becoming his mother... which cave have you been living in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too. "

No, what he means is that swingers fall under the level 2 and 3 categories because he is saying he would not want a swinger as a level 1 or for his level 1 to join the swinging lifestyle/ have multiple sexual partners.

This is an old fashioned and belittle view to the women on this site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

No, what he means is that swingers fall under the level 2 and 3 categories because he is saying he would not want a swinger as a level 1 or for his level 1 to join the swinging lifestyle/ have multiple sexual partners.

This is an old fashioned and belittle view to the women on this site."

Well I guess him being on a Swingers site also makes him level 2 and 3 by his rules, therefore also not worthy of level 1. Unless he of course doesn't tell his level 1 lady that he is has been on a swingers site.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

No, what he means is that swingers fall under the level 2 and 3 categories because he is saying he would not want a swinger as a level 1 or for his level 1 to join the swinging lifestyle/ have multiple sexual partners.

This is an old fashioned and belittle view to the women on this site.

Well I guess him being on a Swingers site also makes him level 2 and 3 by his rules, therefore also not worthy of level 1. Unless he of course doesn't tell his level 1 lady that he is has been on a swingers site."

No he will probably tell her that hes only ever had sex with 3 people.

Isnt that what alot of people do when discussing their sexual history to a new partner ?

Be a little economical with the truth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well I guess him being on a Swingers site also makes him level 2 and 3 by his rules, therefore also not worthy of level 1. Unless he of course doesn't tell his level 1 lady that he is has been on a swingers site.

No he will probably tell her that hes only ever had sex with 3 people.

Isnt that what alot of people do when discussing their sexual history to a new partner ?

Be a little economical with the truth "

I don't. I prefer to be honest, and Id want a partner to be the same way. If they can't accept me the way I am, sexual history/ appetite and all, then that's their problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

No, what he means is that swingers fall under the level 2 and 3 categories because he is saying he would not want a swinger as a level 1 or for his level 1 to join the swinging lifestyle/ have multiple sexual partners.

This is an old fashioned and belittle view to the women on this site.

Well I guess him being on a Swingers site also makes him level 2 and 3 by his rules, therefore also not worthy of level 1. Unless he of course doesn't tell his level 1 lady that he is has been on a swingers site.

No he will probably tell her that hes only ever had sex with 3 people.

Isnt that what alot of people do when discussing their sexual history to a new partner ?

Be a little economical with the truth "

Maybe they'll both lie to each other. Just think two heathens pretending to be level 1!

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"I am going to throw a cat amongst the pigeons and say... What about a woman classifying men in the same way?...A level 1,2 and 3 BF!

I can happily connect in a romantic and sensual way with a level 3, who I should be only seeing for a damn hard dirty pounding allegedly! Lol.

No thats not what he means.

He means 2 and 3 are just to be used for fun only and level 1 is girlfriend material. Doesnt mean he doesnt have filthy great sex with a level 1 though.

Same applies to how some women choose men too.

No, what he means is that swingers fall under the level 2 and 3 categories because he is saying he would not want a swinger as a level 1 or for his level 1 to join the swinging lifestyle/ have multiple sexual partners.

This is an old fashioned and belittle view to the women on this site.

Well I guess him being on a Swingers site also makes him level 2 and 3 by his rules, therefore also not worthy of level 1. Unless he of course doesn't tell his level 1 lady that he is has been on a swingers site.

No he will probably tell her that hes only ever had sex with 3 people.

Isnt that what alot of people do when discussing their sexual history to a new partner ?

Be a little economical with the truth

Maybe they'll both lie to each other. Just think two heathens pretending to be level 1!"

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

In my opinion, women have to understand that we live in a kind of society where women have all the rights and no responsibility for their actions on the contrast men have all the responsibility for their actions and little rights.

Placing women into levels is a survival code when you are a man of means or even when you are trying to be a man of means.

I find the contributor very intelligent cause if he sticks to that code he will end up a wealthy man.

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over a year ago

I feel a bit sorry for men, they are made to be ready all the time, whereas , women are only ready some of the time, so I can understand, if you are not ready for your man, when he wants it, prepare for him to look elsewhere.

Just a fact of life.

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Another thing I would like to address in my opinion which I deduce from the contributors comment is that swingers might be level2 or level3 women.

This is very false, there is a very large amount of level1 women who are swingers, swinging is fun and recreation, just like swimming or playing tennis.

I know what am saying cause I have met them .

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"In my opinion, women have to understand that we live in a kind of society where women have all the rights and no responsibility for their actions on the contrast men have all the responsibility for their actions and little rights.

Placing women into levels is a survival code when you are a man of means or even when you are trying to be a man of means.

I find the contributor very intelligent cause if he sticks to that code he will end up a wealthy man.

"

That's an interesting viewpoint. In what way do women have all the rights and none of the responsibilities and vice versa for men?

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over a year ago


"Another thing I would like to address in my opinion which I deduce from the contributors comment is that swingers might be level2 or level3 women.

This is very false, there is a very large amount of level1 women who are swingers, swinging is fun and recreation, just like swimming or playing tennis.

I know what am saying cause I have met them ."

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Classical example, my friend in the states worked hard and opened a restaurant , then he made the mistake of getting a level 2 girl he was messing with pregnant , today she owns the same restaurant and he has to start over again. Remember they are not even married.

I told him to stick to the level1 girls they will never do you like that cause they have too much confidence and believe in themselves the will make sure they control things and build with you.

Now if you are a guy and a girl you are messing with is pregnant and she is well off dont dream of claiming her stuff you will be told to go out and work this is the core difference.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"Classical example, my friend in the states worked hard and opened a restaurant , then he made the mistake of getting a level 2 girl he was messing with pregnant , today she owns the same restaurant and he has to start over again. Remember they are not even married.

I told him to stick to the level1 girls they will never do you like that cause they have too much confidence and believe in themselves the will make sure they control things and build with you.

Now if you are a guy and a girl you are messing with is pregnant and she is well off dont dream of claiming her stuff you will be told to go out and work this is the core difference."

I see.

You don't see a child as a responsibility then? Why would a man claim a woman's stuff because they're having a child together?

Bad luck for your friend in the states though.

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"Another thing I would like to address in my opinion which I deduce from the contributors comment is that swingers might be level2 or level3 women.

This is very false, there is a very large amount of level1 women who are swingers, swinging is fun and recreation, just like swimming or playing tennis.

I know what am saying cause I have met them ."

Yeah I'm level 1. My husband introduced me to his parents and married me. And I've had a number of boyfriends who thought I was good enough to take home to their parents and 2 others who wanted to marry me. In fact surely this is the case for most women on Fab - they will have been level 1 to someone?

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

To clarify things it's not like he was ready to have children at the time and am sure if he was he would take responsibility.

The girl told him she was on the pill and lied to him and he trusted her and she definitely had her plans.

When you mess with level2 and 3 this is what you get, level 1 girls will not play like this cause they don't want you to mess them up. They will take the pills before you ask and if you are not ready they can have fun with you but there will be no responsibility as result.

So guys need the survival code to gaurd themselves from regrets and that is why we put chics into levels.

Level 1 women definitely do the same thing with the guys they play with.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

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"To clarify things it's not like he was ready to have children at the time and am sure if he was he would take responsibility.

The girl told him she was on the pill and lied to him and he trusted her and she definitely had her plans.

When you mess with level2 and 3 this is what you get, level 1 girls will not play like this cause they don't want you to mess them up. They will take the pills before you ask and if you are not ready they can have fun with you but there will be no responsibility as result.

So guys need the survival code to gaurd themselves from regrets and that is why we put chics into levels.

Level 1 women definitely do the same thing with the guys they play with.

"

I see. An interesting view of things.

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over a year ago


"In my opinion, women have to understand that we live in a kind of society where women have all the rights and no responsibility for their actions on the contrast men have all the responsibility for their actions and little rights.

Placing women into levels is a survival code when you are a man of means or even when you are trying to be a man of means.

I find the contributor very intelligent cause if he sticks to that code he will end up a wealthy man.

That's an interesting viewpoint. In what way do women have all the rights and none of the responsibilities and vice versa for men?"

I think he's talking about basic primeval instincts. In the animal kingdom males need to spread their genes to the next generation. To do that they must spread their sperm far and wide to ensure some of it survives. That is why men are naturally more promiscuous than women. However in human beings, men have a role in raising their offspring. He will raise the offspring of his life partner. It is not worth a man's energy and resources to raise another man's child. That is why is in in a man's instinct to choose a partner who has not slept around, so as to reduce that risk. It is in the woman's survival instinct to find a life partner to help raise her children. If she has children from another man it will be harder to find a life partner because men would rather raise their own children. This outdated double standards rule is associated with basic human survival of genes. Although we are no longer living in caves, men still instinctively judge promiscuous women as not worthy of any more energy than just a fuck, because of the high risk of their resources going towards the survival another man genes. The psychology behind cuckolding also lie with basic human survival too, but that is digressing too much.

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"To clarify things it's not like he was ready to have children at the time and am sure if he was he would take responsibility.

The girl told him she was on the pill and lied to him and he trusted her and she definitely had her plans.

When you mess with level2 and 3 this is what you get, level 1 girls will not play like this cause they don't want you to mess them up. They will take the pills before you ask and if you are not ready they can have fun with you but there will be no responsibility as result.

So guys need the survival code to gaurd themselves from regrets and that is why we put chics into levels.

Level 1 women definitely do the same thing with the guys they play with.

"

So what you are saying is level 2 and 3 women might trick a man into making her pregnant, but a level 1 woman wouldn't do such a thing?

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over a year ago


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

That is an honest post and I (Mr Spice) understand where you are.

You are basing your relationships on ownership and insecurity. You're only one step away from the 'chastity belt' brigade. You simply are not sexually liberated, your own insecurity will not allow it.

When you truly love someone and have found the person you can enjoy that deep sexual connection with its only natural to try and protect what you have but in my opinion you have an 'immature' and insecure approach to doing this based on restricting them.

If the other person genuinely feels the same about you then what you have doesn't need protecting by restricting their actions. What you have can actually be further enhanced by being liberated in your approach.

That though requires a level of inner security that many sadly don't possess.

But what if you are in a happy vanilla relationship and both of you dont want to fuck anyone else?

Does that mean your relationship is immature and insecure?

When my husband and I had been together for about a year and a half and married for less than a year, he was living during the week in Scotland, which required a great deal of trust on my part, as he was out drinking most nights due to having no proper home to go to. One night he didnt answer his mobile. I was frantic and convinced he was with someone else. As it turned out it was fine. But i was not ready for him to have sex with other women because our relationship was still immature. It doesn't bother me in the least now, because after nearly 12 years of marriage i feel secure that it has no baring on our relationship. If another woman gives him something that I don't, I am happy for him in the same way I am pleased for him if someone cooks him a better or different meal than I am capable of. Having said that it took him much longer than me to reach that level of security. We are all different. "

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Level 1 girls don't trick guys,they build with the guys they are with, they are careful about who they choose as a partner cause they don't want their actions to bring any kind of sadness to anyone around them.

They are fast and deep thinkers, are they are always thinking about being better, you are lucky as a guy if a level 1 chic wants to be with you, they have the ability to push you to great heights.

They don't play games, they talk things through with you.

If you are a man of means or want to be a man of means this is what you need.

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By *ikstupp2Man
over a year ago

london


"I would not advise someone to swing with a new girlfriend. Best to concentrate on building the relationship. However for those who believe in monogamy so only swing when not in a relationship, fair play to them. Everybody is different. But the guys we take on for more meaningful friendships are all swingers at heart, and have or would swing irrespective of their relationship status. We feel more confortable with guys who share our outlook of non-monogamy. If we were to take on a guy who would not be prepared to share his partner, then he is unlikely to understand us. I'm not sure we want to play with a man who can't relate to why we do this. There is also a risk that a man who doesn't like to share his partner, is unlikely to want to share me if I become his married lover, that is particularly intolerable.

Mrs"
personally I wouldn't share my partner but I totally understand why couples do, but it's also possible to meet a lady in the swinging world and want to settle down. So I think it all comes down to the indervidual

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over a year ago


"Level 1 girls don't trick guys,they build with the guys they are with, they are careful about who they choose as a partner cause they don't want their actions to bring any kind of sadness to anyone around them.

They are fast and deep thinkers, are they are always thinking about being better, you are lucky as a guy if a level 1 chic wants to be with you, they have the ability to push you to great heights.

They don't play games, they talk things through with you.

If you are a man of means or want to be a man of means this is what you need."

That's a different definition from the other guy's definition, who I suspect would not regard a woman from Fab as being worthy of being his level 1. Whereas to you, it's more about women not playing games and doing what's best for her partner and working together. I expect there are many women on Fab who treat their partners like that.

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"I would not advise someone to swing with a new girlfriend. Best to concentrate on building the relationship. However for those who believe in monogamy so only swing when not in a relationship, fair play to them. Everybody is different. But the guys we take on for more meaningful friendships are all swingers at heart, and have or would swing irrespective of their relationship status. We feel more confortable with guys who share our outlook of non-monogamy. If we were to take on a guy who would not be prepared to share his partner, then he is unlikely to understand us. I'm not sure we want to play with a man who can't relate to why we do this. There is also a risk that a man who doesn't like to share his partner, is unlikely to want to share me if I become his married lover, that is particularly intolerable.

Mrspersonally I wouldn't share my partner but I totally understand why couples do, but it's also possible to meet a lady in the swinging world and want to settle down. So I think it all comes down to the indervidual "

Well according to your profile you only are only looking for women not couples, so the issue that some have with men who can't relate to what they do won't come up, My concern is only relevant with guys who do play with couples.

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over a year ago


"LOL! To be honest it's all a bit of fun. But I guess subconsciously I do actually give GF's a level of attainment. I think a lot of us do that, unless it's just me and every other male friend that I've ever had who think this way.

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So do you and your mates talk about sharing each others partners or what you would like to do to them?

.....has it become a reality?

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over a year ago

I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin. "

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab. "

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab. "

How do you define someone who doesn't respect the people who he sleep?

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?"

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

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"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen. "

Maybe the odds are against them in places like this but theres enough who are getting layed.

But yes Thats why alot of people on here are also on all the other sites too so that increases their odds considerably.

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"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Maybe the odds are against them in places like this but theres enough who are getting layed.

But yes Thats why alot of people on here are also on all the other sites too so that increases their odds considerably."

It doesn't matter to me, other than the fact that I see it. It's not like I'm ever going to fuck one of these guys.

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"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen. "

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours "

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My brain hurts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My brain hurts. "

Haha I'm not surprised

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over a year ago


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised "

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me

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"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours "

I think I do alright in identifying those who understand respect. If I was used by a clever talker who just wants a free shag, I think it would become obvious eventually. Since I've been on the swing scene I have never ever walked away from a sexual experience thinking 'that was a mistake, that guy doesn't respect women like me'

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours

I think I do alright in identifying those who understand respect. If I was used by a clever talker who just wants a free shag, I think it would become obvious eventually. Since I've been on the swing scene I have never ever walked away from a sexual experience thinking 'that was a mistake, that guy doesn't respect women like me'"

But you will never know for sure??

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over a year ago


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me "

Everyone was talking about levels and i forgotten what was going on to be honest lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me

Everyone was talking about levels and i forgotten what was going on to be honest lol"

Over night I worked out that I'm level 432. Its the "I don't care what other men think I'm only interested in my partners opinion" level. But it became clear to me what the whole "not looking to sleep with the whole site" "quality over quantity" "if you have too many verifications don't bother" thing on profiles is about.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me

Everyone was talking about levels and i forgotten what was going on to be honest lol

Over night I worked out that I'm level 432. Its the "I don't care what other men think I'm only interested in my partners opinion" level. But it became clear to me what the whole "not looking to sleep with the whole site" "quality over quantity" "if you have too many verifications don't bother" thing on profiles is about."

That's a good analysis! How do you reach level 1000?

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over a year ago


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me

Everyone was talking about levels and i forgotten what was going on to be honest lol

Over night I worked out that I'm level 432. Its the "I don't care what other men think I'm only interested in my partners opinion" level. But it became clear to me what the whole "not looking to sleep with the whole site" "quality over quantity" "if you have too many verifications don't bother" thing on profiles is about.

That's a good analysis! How do you reach level 1000?"

But would you want to marry a barebacking Gangbang slut OP?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"My brain hurts.

Haha I'm not surprised

Where have you been OP?

You should have been answering all these questions about your posts not me

Everyone was talking about levels and i forgotten what was going on to be honest lol

Over night I worked out that I'm level 432. Its the "I don't care what other men think I'm only interested in my partners opinion" level. But it became clear to me what the whole "not looking to sleep with the whole site" "quality over quantity" "if you have too many verifications don't bother" thing on profiles is about.

That's a good analysis! How do you reach level 1000?"

The unattainable nirvana? You need to be able to retain your virginity despite having sex with one man only for the entirety of your life. It's difficult but since you will have no other responsibilities achievable with dedication.

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours "

Come on, most of the women on here are not damsels in distress! They're switched on and use the site as a means to an end. In my experience women are very savvy, many have to be because they're getting hit on all the time.

Do you think they see all the guys as marriage material? Get real! Most women know the score and use it to their advantage.

Does it mean that they don't respect men? No it doesn't.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't introduce her to this world either... just in case my wife found out

Cal

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over a year ago

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over a year ago


"I dont think most guys discuss sharing their partners as OP and others mentioned.

Only the women they think are good for fun only get discussed like that.

Theres women who men treat with respect and theres women who men see as nothing more than a piece of meat to be used as a toy for kicks and shared if thats what they fancy doing too.

Its like a guy who has a pride of joy car. He wont let anyone drive it as its his pride and joy.

But if he drives something he doesnt care about he doesnt mind who borrows it for a spin.

Fine, but guys who don't respect the women they fuck are not really cut out for the swing scene, they are just taking advantage of the swing scene, and probably don't really respect themselves either. Respect is one of the most important values in swinging, and men who don't have that respect I wish they would go a pay for a prostitute instead of lowering themselves to pursue women they have no respect for. Fortunately it's easy to identify these guys on Fab.

Since the internet has been around its made it far easier for people to hook up for casual sex so whats the point in guys paying for sex when they can get it for free?

Because a lot of them can't get it for free. They come on sites like this and women identify that these guys don't respect women who use these site, have no self respect themselves, and generally don't get it. Some of the better looking ones might slip through the net. But on the whole Fab is full of frustrated men like looking for a free shag that is unlikely to happen.

Its very hard to spot someone whos adept at using what ever tactics it takes to get what they want.

The successful guys dont use the Fancy a Fuck type messages and arnt openly derogatory to women.

The most succesful guys appear to be respectful to women and not derogatory and are well liked usually.

This doesnt necessarily mean that these guys actually think any differently about the women than the guys who are openly disrespectful ?

It just means some guys are better wolves in sheeps clothing than others to get what they want and play the game more successfully.

End of the day its upto the woman to be savvy enough to be able to work out whos really who and whether she wants to be treated as nothing more than a bit of entertainment or not?

The choice is yours

Come on, most of the women on here are not damsels in distress! They're switched on and use the site as a means to an end. In my experience women are very savvy, many have to be because they're getting hit on all the time.

Do you think they see all the guys as marriage material? Get real! Most women know the score and use it to their advantage.

Does it mean that they don't respect men? No it doesn't. "

Exactly some women are just the same as some men

Not sure why youve attached your comment to my post though?

It wants to be directed at the womens posts in here saying its not nice that guys in here have no respect for women in here and only seeing them to use for entertainment and nothing else.

I already said in my previous posts that some women think the same way as some men in here do.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't introduce her to this world either... just in case my wife found out

Cal "

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Lol, it all has to do with the way society is shaped, for example a rock bottom woman with 5 issues from 5 different men thinks she is a respectable person and expects to get a wealthy and decent man, clean with no baggage.

Because society will not tell her the truth that what she is doing is wrong because they don't want the backlash.In anycase she will only destroy this kind of man.

On the other hand if you are rock bottom man you know you are not going anywhere near a wealthy woman,if you are a wealthy man and fuck with a rock bottom lady and she gets your offspring the system will hit you so hard in the pocket to warn other wealthy men to stay away from women like this, but they will never tell the women that this behavior is bad.

It is very possible to live of a wealthy mans offspring for a lifetime and rock bottom women know this.

The assumption that men are just looking for pussy is wrong, real men know that pussy looks for them, and really if you want pussy at your beck and call you must have a tight mouthpiece and tight game.Real talk

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over a year ago


"Lol, it all has to do with the way society is shaped, for example a rock bottom woman with 5 issues from 5 different men thinks she is a respectable person and expects to get a wealthy and decent man, clean with no baggage.

Because society will not tell her the truth that what she is doing is wrong because they don't want the backlash.In anycase she will only destroy this kind of man.

On the other hand if you are rock bottom man you know you are not going anywhere near a wealthy woman,if you are a wealthy man and fuck with a rock bottom lady and she gets your offspring the system will hit you so hard in the pocket to warn other wealthy men to stay away from women like this, but they will never tell the women that this behavior is bad.

It is very possible to live of a wealthy mans offspring for a lifetime and rock bottom women know this.

The assumption that men are just looking for pussy is wrong, real men know that pussy looks for them, and really if you want pussy at your beck and call you must have a tight mouthpiece and tight game.Real talk"

if you want pussy at your beck and call you must have a tight mouthpiece and tight game.

Do you mean you have to be a good player ?

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By *edonistic ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


"Lol, it all has to do with the way society is shaped, for example a rock bottom woman with 5 issues from 5 different men thinks she is a respectable person and expects to get a wealthy and decent man, clean with no baggage.

Because society will not tell her the truth that what she is doing is wrong because they don't want the backlash.In anycase she will only destroy this kind of man.

On the other hand if you are rock bottom man you know you are not going anywhere near a wealthy woman,if you are a wealthy man and fuck with a rock bottom lady and she gets your offspring the system will hit you so hard in the pocket to warn other wealthy men to stay away from women like this, but they will never tell the women that this behavior is bad.

It is very possible to live of a wealthy mans offspring for a lifetime and rock bottom women know this.

The assumption that men are just looking for pussy is wrong, real men know that pussy looks for them, and really if you want pussy at your beck and call you must have a tight mouthpiece and tight game.Real talk"

I have no idea where you're getting your experience of life from but my own experience is that birth control isn't just a woman's responsibility... and real men don't call women 'pussy'...

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"Lol, it all has to do with the way society is shaped, for example a rock bottom woman with 5 issues from 5 different men thinks she is a respectable person and expects to get a wealthy and decent man, clean with no baggage.

Because society will not tell her the truth that what she is doing is wrong because they don't want the backlash.In anycase she will only destroy this kind of man.

On the other hand if you are rock bottom man you know you are not going anywhere near a wealthy woman,if you are a wealthy man and fuck with a rock bottom lady and she gets your offspring the system will hit you so hard in the pocket to warn other wealthy men to stay away from women like this, but they will never tell the women that this behavior is bad.

It is very possible to live of a wealthy mans offspring for a lifetime and rock bottom women know this.

The assumption that men are just looking for pussy is wrong, real men know that pussy looks for them, and really if you want pussy at your beck and call you must have a tight mouthpiece and tight game.Real talk"

What I have never understood with the whole men's rights/game theory as outlined above is why society is structured in a way that advantages women when the overwhelming majority of the people at the top of politics and business are men. Why is it that those people allow society to go on like this and don't listen to people like you?

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

It is written in comedic fashion but with meaning so that everyone can understand and it does not sound serious.

Most women will agree that in terms of birth control men have only one sure way which is the condom, women have more ways

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

The last paragraph is talking to men who are struggling and want to improve themselves in a slang they will appreciate and understand ,it's not the way I would hold a conversation with any woman

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple
over a year ago

London


"The last paragraph is talking to men who are struggling and want to improve themselves in a slang they will appreciate and understand ,it's not the way I would hold a conversation with any woman "

Rowing back like this is all a bit beta isn't it

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

It is difficult to specify audience from text so clarification is necessary, I come across a lot of guys who don't value themselves anymore however I still want them to do well.

The guys are unable to see how the relationship game is structured and read the subliminal messages sent on the relationship board.

Even on here my female friends tell me their inbox is always flooded with messages while many guys even struggle to get one response, I learnt my game by sitting and talking to the older guys and getting wisdom which I try to share with the guys who are willing to learn in a way they will understand.

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over a year ago

Well each man to their own.

As a female on here it'd be good to meet someone who could consider swinging as a couple. Generally not just a fabber.

The preconception often that women are whores for being here is very wrong. We have sexual urges just like men.

I'm here cause I find it safer than just pulling a random in town. Plus I also wouldn't let anyone in my home when my kid is in so it limits who will spend time with me.

This way you can meet in public, or clubs or attend socials. Not every meet or Veri on a person's means they had sex.

So on the other side of it. I wouldn't object to someone of a similar mind who wanted to fulfill fantasies with other people as a couple.

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Having a tight mouthpiece and tight game means being a good player in response to that question.

Society is structured like this to ensure the purchase of goods and services is not hindered because women buy more things freely and businesses are supported by purchases so society has to firmly support women in all cases which is a good thing.

So guys need to understand this angle of society and make informed choices when it comes to relationships.

Yes I also agree with the last contributor, swingers rock because they are direct and straight to the point lol

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over a year ago


"Having a tight mouthpiece and tight game means being a good player in response to that question.

Society is structured like this to ensure the purchase of goods and services is not hindered because women buy more things freely and businesses are supported by purchases so society has to firmly support women in all cases which is a good thing.

So guys need to understand this angle of society and make informed choices when it comes to relationships.

Yes I also agree with the last contributor, swingers rock because they are direct and straight to the point lol"

Would you agree with previous posters that alot of guys wouldnt swing with a level one girlfriend (marriage material) and class level 2 & 3 women as nothing more than fun and entertainment ? Ok for a fuck gangbang and tell your mates all about it but not girlfriend material?

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth "

You have some interesting views and have obviously spent some time thinking about and forming your opinions. This is a genuine question have you read any books written by men claiming to know how to get women to fall in to line with their ideas?

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By *hrisANtifCouple
over a year ago

Napoli, Italy


"No, I agree - to a point, because it really depends on how I feel about said GF.

As with most men I have several levels of attainment for GF's. In general GF's are people who I'd be seen out with. That's like a level 3.

Level two are the ones I'd be seen out with and introduce to my friends.

I probably wouldn't mind sharing level 3 and level 2 GF's and would in all likely hood be happy to swing with them.

But then comes level 1. A level 1 is some one I would introduce to family. Level 1 is for me and me alone. We do not share a level 1 GF with anyone, ever!

Level 1 gets treated like a princess. Sex is soft and gentle and called making love, and she gets cuddles after.

Level one is marriage material - but not quite, as I don't do marriage.

Level 2 and 3 get the really hot dirty sex that I can't do with my level 1, because even though she likes sex as much as anyone, she doesn't want to be treated like a whore. Not that you don't have hot horny sex with your level 1, it's just that, well, it's like fight club, what goes on the bedroom stays in the bedroom and you can never talk about it.

Level 2 and 3 you can tell your mates everything when your down the pub.

"

Hard to believe this catch is still single

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over a year ago


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth "

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him.

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over a year ago


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him. "

I think you are taking this very personally ?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Mmmmm ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him. "

But, hang on, if you were level 1, neither of you would be swinging????????

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over a year ago


"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him.

But, hang on, if you were level 1, neither of you would be swinging????????"

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"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him.

But, hang on, if you were level 1, neither of you would be swinging????????"

The first guy who talked about levels described level 1 and the woman you take home to your parents. He said he would not want to swing with his level 1 woman, which is his personal choice. My husband decided he did want to swing with the woman he takes home to his parents. Again his personal choice. The other guy who added his definitions of levels, said that level 1 women dont play games, put their partners interests first and work together as a team. That me. I'm level 1 according both those guys definitions. Nobody actually said level 1 doesn't swing, they just said men wouldn't want to swing with their level1. My husband is different.

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"I will put it like this , made men swing with their level1 partners, they appreciate this women so much they want them to have fun , you see them even smiling with joy when these women are playing.

The men know who they are and what they have achieved so they have no reason to bother about you playing with the level 1 women, the women would never leave them for you, that's for sure , this applies to real swingers only.

Men who are swingers who are not yet made would not play with their level 1 women out of fear of losing them, cause they know they hit the lottery by having a level woman, these are the ones that would play with level 2 or 3 , this is the sincere truth

Well you are wrong there. My husband was a swinger before he met me. I'm his level 1 woman (well he married me didn't ?) I'm also level 1 by your definition in that I don't play games and I put his interests first. But despite me being his level 1 woman, he loves us going out to play together, and he loves me taking lovers. He doesn't fear losing me, because as a level 1 woman he knows I would never do that to him.

I think you are taking this very personally ?

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

Mmmmm ?"

You're right there is no point in convincing you that women on the swing scene are worthy of respect.

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By *lowercandyWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire


"We met as singles on the scene and since that moment have never swung or swapped ....we have just got engaged and are getting married next year ....we would never go down the swinging route as a couple but do remain on the scene for numerous other reasons such as all our freinds the social aspect andvthe fact we are bi we will play bi with same sex ....we have the most wonderful relationship and life on the scene without having to share each other with the opposite sex ... .and yes we have the slow passionate love making and hot and steamy sex ....so lucky we have it all xxx"

OP

This reflects the conversation we had yesterday.

When I asked if the woman you fell for was bi would you accept that and embrace it or restrict that side if her .

I think you two (congratulations) have embraced each others sexuality and come up with what works for you without changing for each other.

I wish you every happiness

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By *ames1763Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

I said a "made man" which means a financially successful man in every right , this kind of men have no problems swinging with their level 1 partners or wife , a man who is "not yet made" meaning not yet financially successful in every right, fears swinging with their level1 partners because they fear losing them, these type of men will swing with Level2 or 3.

Please note this principle applies to swingers only , and not the normal every day men.

In response to the previous questions I learnt not from books but from sitting down with the older "made men" at swinging parties and chatting with them.

I was trying to understand them cause they are not like normal men, if you see their partners or wives, you can see extreme beauty and money all over them.The women are also always financially successful too,mostly business women .

I kept thinking how can these men leave women who are so extremely beautiful to play with other guys and just sit on the sofa drinking whisky and laughing.

For you to understand what am saying, the boyfriends of these women at the parties will not want other guys to play with them because they are just too beautiful and successful but the main husband will be sitting on the sofa laughing.

I said to myself this is real power displayed by these "made men" and I must learn from these kind of men and be like them when am at their age, they taught me all I need to know and I found everthing they said to be true.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"I said a "made man" which means a financially successful man in every right , this kind of men have no problems swinging with their level 1 partners or wife , a man who is "not yet made" meaning not yet financially successful in every right, fears swinging with their level1 partners because they fear losing them, these type of men will swing with Level2 or 3.

Please note this principle applies to swingers only , and not the normal every day men.

In response to the previous questions I learnt not from books but from sitting down with the older "made men" at swinging parties and chatting with them.

I was trying to understand them cause they are not like normal men, if you see their partners or wives, you can see extreme beauty and money all over them.The women are also always financially successful too,mostly business women .

I kept thinking how can these men leave women who are so extremely beautiful to play with other guys and just sit on the sofa drinking whisky and laughing.

For you to understand what am saying, the boyfriends of these women at the parties will not want other guys to play with them because they are just too beautiful and successful but the main husband will be sitting on the sofa laughing.

I said to myself this is real power displayed by these "made men" and I must learn from these kind of men and be like them when am at their age, they taught me all I need to know and I found everthing they said to be true.

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I understand how you formed your opinions and respect them but I can't agree with them.

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