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"Absolutely nothing wrong with bi guys in my opinion. I love em" Such a shame your not local to me I must live in the wrong part of the country......   | |||
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"Absolutely nothing wrong with bi guys in my opinion. I love em Such a shame your not local to me I must live in the wrong part of the country...... "Just because she likes bi men, doesn't mean she likes you. | |||
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"I look at every man as an individual whether he's straight or bi. And pursue him (or not) dependent on mutual attraction, consideration, intelligence and so on. I think *some* people see bi guys as higher risk and/or somehow 'tainted' if they've played with guys, though that play can take many forms of course. There may also be an element of homophobia in the attitudes of some. But personally, I weigh up risk in the same way for bi men as I do for straight which is where honesty, communication, responsibility and safe sex comes in. Regardless, it's not worth getting upset about people who avoid bi guys for whatever reason. particularly if that's due to ignorance or bigotry in some cases. Would you really want to meet that type of person anyway? There are plenty of people who *are* open to meeting bi men so concentrate on finding those "Thank you for your message I wouldn't want to meet that type nor would I get upset I was just wondering what it was. I always practice safe sex at all times no exceptions and don't see why if I would play with a bi guy that would make me any cleaner or dirtier so to speak by as you say people's perceptions ah well here's trying to find those women x | |||
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"Absolutely nothing wrong with bi guys in my opinion. I love em Such a shame your not local to me I must live in the wrong part of the country......
Just because she likes bi men, doesn't mean she likes you."Wasn't assuming she would just stating there doesn't seem to be many willing to that live local to me | |||
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"Like someone said I used to just avoid people who don't meet bi guy's. They have a close minded view on it and even in 2017 some think bi guys all fuck other men without protection. I particularly dislike the profiles that state no bi men but tbe female is bi but thats ok."  | |||
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"Ladies I am wondering what the opinion is of women on bi or bi curious guys... many women won't meet these type of guys but are happy to meet/talk with bi/bi curious women even if their straight.. There seems to be a real stigma surrounding guys of these sexualitys and just wondered why that was? " Find the thread on unconventional crushes from yesterday, there's a hilarious comment in that on this subject. | |||
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"I look at every man as an individual whether he's straight or bi. And pursue him (or not) dependent on mutual attraction, consideration, intelligence and so on. " I've posted this on a few threads on this subject. It's all anyone on here is really asking for. | |||
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"Absolutely nothing wrong with bi guys in my opinion. I love em Such a shame your not local to me I must live in the wrong part of the country......
Just because she likes bi men, doesn't mean she likes you.
Wasn't assuming she would just stating there doesn't seem to be many willing to that live local to me "No, that's not what you said. | |||
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"Ladies I am wondering what the opinion is of women on bi or bi curious guys... many women won't meet these type of guys but are happy to meet/talk with bi/bi curious women even if their straight.. There seems to be a real stigma surrounding guys of these sexualitys and just wondered why that was? " Surely it's just personal choice. Just the same as some people won't meet Asian or black people. | |||
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"Absolutely nothing wrong with bi guys in my opinion. I love em Such a shame your not local to me I must live in the wrong part of the country......
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"There's something for everyone on here. You just have to find it. " There certainly is | |||
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"There is a lot of ignorance when it comes to bisexuality. Some people believe that bi guys can't keep their hands off the straight guys in a mfmf swap. Some women say they are put off by sucking a cock that has been used for mm intercourse. As if straight men never go to botty country with their female partners. Then there is the perception that bi men are effeminate. I mean that just makes me cry and go through all the tissues in my handbag!"  | |||
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"It is their choice not to want to meet bi men or short men or fat men or old men or whatever men I will meet bi men as much as I will meet straight men. But I will only meet straight men when with my boyfriend as in the past, the accidental touching happened one too many times for us to think that it was 'accidental'. And that ruined the evening for us" The accidental touching may have been because the guy was a brain donor not because he was bi. Most of my mfmf encouters are straight and I have no interest in the guy whatsoever. | |||
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"Oh yeah and another point of ignorance it that some people don't see they difference between gay men and bi men.... "Both are "MSM". Many people's issue is with male/male sexual contact, so for most people gay or bi is irrelevant. | |||
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"Oh yeah and another point of ignorance it that some people don't see they difference between gay men and bi men....
Both are "MSM". Many people's issue is with male/male sexual contact, so for most people gay or bi is irrelevant."If the man was gay, he wouldn't be involved sexually with a woman anyway. That tends to be the issue of discussion on here. | |||
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"There's a lot of people out there who don't swing because they think swinging means dropping your keys in a hat at a party. If they knew what it was really about some of them might give it a go. Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter." The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic.... | |||
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"There's a lot of people out there who don't swing because they think swinging means dropping your keys in a hat at a party. If they knew what it was really about some of them might give it a go. Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter. The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic...." If they aren't attracted to them that's different to excluding them because of some urban legend that's so ridiculous it's laughable. | |||
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" Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter. The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic.... If they aren't attracted to them that's different to excluding them because of some urban legend that's so ridiculous it's laughable." Sure. I mean what's logical about being liked being spanked, or liking BBW, or liking blondes or tattoos etc etc etc It's all in the mind. Some women don't like the idea that a man would find another man sexually appeally and them too. Logically different things. It doesn't have to be prejudicial, sexual attraction is a strange beast. By urban legend are you talking about STIs?? | |||
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"It is their choice not to want to meet bi men or short men or fat men or old men or whatever men I will meet bi men as much as I will meet straight men. But I will only meet straight men when with my boyfriend as in the past, the accidental touching happened one too many times for us to think that it was 'accidental'. And that ruined the evening for us The accidental touching may have been because the guy was a brain donor not because he was bi. Most of my mfmf encouters are straight and I have no interest in the guy whatsoever." For us, it is no longer worth taking the chance; there are plenty of straight men who I can play with in a threesome with my boyfriend When on my own, I will meet with a bisexual man as then his sexuality makes no difference to me. But I have no desire to see two men having sex, infact, for me, it is a turn-off | |||
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"It's a bit like when the bloke at the outreach GUM clinic I go to asks me if any of the men I've had sex with, have had sex with men. Oh how we laugh!" | |||
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"It's a fantasy of mine to be with a pair of bisexual men. Oh yes please! I don't know about any stigmas. I just know how hot the thought makes me lol!" Have privately message you | |||
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"Like someone said I used to just avoid people who don't meet bi guy's. They have a close minded view on it and even in 2017 some think bi guys all fuck other men without protection. I particularly dislike the profiles that state no bi men but tbe female is bi but thats ok." Well that's a bit of close minded view to quote you, that most certainly is not the reason I have no interest in bi guys!! | |||
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" Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter. The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic.... If they aren't attracted to them that's different to excluding them because of some urban legend that's so ridiculous it's laughable. Sure. I mean what's logical about being liked being spanked, or liking BBW, or liking blondes or tattoos etc etc etc It's all in the mind. Some women don't like the idea that a man would find another man sexually appeally and them too. Logically different things. It doesn't have to be prejudicial, sexual attraction is a strange beast. By urban legend are you talking about STIs??" I've met a lot of people. I've never met one who was so irresistible that I could help myself from touching them. So to the males of these couples who think they are so sexy that I won't be able to help myself 'accidentally' touching you..... get over yourselves! You aren't as good looking as you think you are. I might be bi but I'm 99% about the girls and only 1% about the guys. So to have someone tell me I'm going to be trying to touch a guy when I've got a naked women in front of me just makes me laugh. If you are hetrosexual are you also unable to help yourself with the unsolicited touching people of the opposite sex? | |||
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" Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter. The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic.... If they aren't attracted to them that's different to excluding them because of some urban legend that's so ridiculous it's laughable. Sure. I mean what's logical about being liked being spanked, or liking BBW, or liking blondes or tattoos etc etc etc It's all in the mind. Some women don't like the idea that a man would find another man sexually appeally and them too. Logically different things. It doesn't have to be prejudicial, sexual attraction is a strange beast. By urban legend are you talking about STIs?? I've met a lot of people. I've never met one who was so irresistible that I could help myself from touching them. So to the males of these couples who think they are so sexy that I won't be able to help myself 'accidentally' touching you..... get over yourselves! You aren't as good looking as you think you are. I might be bi but I'm 99% about the girls and only 1% about the guys. So to have someone tell me I'm going to be trying to touch a guy when I've got a naked women in front of me just makes me laugh. If you are hetrosexual are you also unable to help yourself with the unsolicited touching people of the opposite sex?" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. | |||
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"Ladies I am wondering what the opinion is of women on bi or bi curious guys... many women won't meet these type of guys but are happy to meet/talk with bi/bi curious women even if their straight.. There seems to be a real stigma surrounding guys of these sexualitys and just wondered why that was? " Some women believe it to not be Alpha or a real man to play with other men. I think that can come from all sorts of things media, culture, history upbringing, TV, films etc. | |||
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" Sure everyone has different tastes and if it isn't for you it isn't for you. But some of the reasons that people give for specifically excluding bi men defy logic. Personally I'm not complaining. There are so many couples who have bi male fantasies that the few who exclude us really don't matter. The key word there is 'logic' . Most sexual attraction and activity isn't based on logic.... If they aren't attracted to them that's different to excluding them because of some urban legend that's so ridiculous it's laughable. Sure. I mean what's logical about being liked being spanked, or liking BBW, or liking blondes or tattoos etc etc etc It's all in the mind. Some women don't like the idea that a man would find another man sexually appeally and them too. Logically different things. It doesn't have to be prejudicial, sexual attraction is a strange beast. By urban legend are you talking about STIs?? I've met a lot of people. I've never met one who was so irresistible that I could help myself from touching them. So to the males of these couples who think they are so sexy that I won't be able to help myself 'accidentally' touching you..... get over yourselves! You aren't as good looking as you think you are. I might be bi but I'm 99% about the girls and only 1% about the guys. So to have someone tell me I'm going to be trying to touch a guy when I've got a naked women in front of me just makes me laugh. If you are hetrosexual are you also unable to help yourself with the unsolicited touching people of the opposite sex? Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice." Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? | |||
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them?" No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun. | |||
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun." Thank you for this permission. You are very gracious. Since you cannot tell if someone is bi just by looking at them but you can tell if you are attracted to someone to just by looking at them. So to compare a bi man to a BBW etc isn't correct. With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. | |||
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun. Thank you for this permission. You are very gracious. Since you cannot tell if someone is bi just by looking at them but you can tell if you are attracted to someone to just by looking at them. So to compare a bi man to a BBW etc isn't correct. With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. " Yeah the looks thing isn't right it's more the idea. A lot of people wouldn't know Marlon Brando was bisexual. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with you at all just preference and hubby won't play in there presents knowingly as totally straight " I rest my case | |||
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun. Thank you for this permission. You are very gracious. Since you cannot tell if someone is bi just by looking at them but you can tell if you are attracted to someone to just by looking at them. So to compare a bi man to a BBW etc isn't correct. With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. " Take it in annoffended way if you choose. All I'm saying is this question has been discussed hundreds of times with the same types of answers. Playing the 'prejudice' card might seem like a quick win, but it's actually counter productive. I know lots of people who won't knoingly play with bi men and they are far from prejudiced. Basically you want people to accept your sexual preferences and they do so. But you don't want to accept theirs. | |||
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun. Thank you for this permission. You are very gracious. Since you cannot tell if someone is bi just by looking at them but you can tell if you are attracted to someone to just by looking at them. So to compare a bi man to a BBW etc isn't correct. With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. Take it in annoffended way if you choose. All I'm saying is this question has been discussed hundreds of times with the same types of answers. Playing the 'prejudice' card might seem like a quick win, but it's actually counter productive. I know lots of people who won't knoingly play with bi men and they are far from prejudiced. Basically you want people to accept your sexual preferences and they do so. But you don't want to accept theirs."
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" Ok, but I never mentioned the bi guy mauling the straight guy. I'm trying to get across it isn't necesarily down to logic or prejudice. Can you see if someone is bi just by looking at them? No, you can't. But this topic has been done to death. There are hundreds of answers and counter answers on those threads. As with most things in swinging, I like people to make their own choices, respect everyone and respect others choices. Obviously you are free to continue the discussion on your thread too. Have fun. Thank you for this permission. You are very gracious. Since you cannot tell if someone is bi just by looking at them but you can tell if you are attracted to someone to just by looking at them. So to compare a bi man to a BBW etc isn't correct. With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. Take it in annoffended way if you choose. All I'm saying is this question has been discussed hundreds of times with the same types of answers. Playing the 'prejudice' card might seem like a quick win, but it's actually counter productive. I know lots of people who won't knoingly play with bi men and they are far from prejudiced. Basically you want people to accept your sexual preferences and they do so. But you don't want to accept theirs." Actually I said I accept other peoples preferences. So why are you reading a thread thats been discussed to death? Why do have a problem with me partaking in the discussion? How many of the threads on the forum are unique? So to summarise. Everyone is entitled to their preference. To say one person is like this because someone else who fell under the same category did it is pretty much the definition of predjudice. | |||
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" With most bi men you probably wouldn't know they're bi unless they told you. Which is probably why so many of them hide their sexual preference on fab to avoid unnecessary predjudice. Take it in annoffended way if you choose. All I'm saying is this question has been discussed hundreds of times with the same types of answers. Playing the 'prejudice' card might seem like a quick win, but it's actually counter productive. I know lots of people who won't knoingly play with bi men and they are far from prejudiced. Basically you want people to accept your sexual preferences and they do so. But you don't want to accept theirs. Actually I said I accept other peoples preferences. So why are you reading a thread thats been discussed to death? Why do have a problem with me partaking in the discussion? How many of the threads on the forum are unique? So to summarise. Everyone is entitled to their preference. To say one person is like this because someone else who fell under the same category did it is pretty much the definition of predjudice." I didn't clump people together by their actions. I just said the knowledge of what they like might be off-putting to some women. That's not prejudicual. I think you are referring to another poster who mentioned her husband being accidentally touched by a bi man in an mmf. I can't answer for them. Remember all couples don't think alike or have the same experiences. | |||
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"Hi I have to say 99% of e mails I get are from " straight" men. They say the yare straight, and I look at their verifications, they have met loads of couples who dont want to meet bi men. But behind the scenes these " straight " men are as Bi as the rest of us They just lie about it to get their leg over Shame they are cowards and cant be honest " Who are YOU to decide when somebody should come out?  | |||
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"Hi I have to say 99% of e mails I get are from " straight" men. They say the yare straight, and I look at their verifications, they have met loads of couples who dont want to meet bi men. But behind the scenes these " straight " men are as Bi as the rest of us They just lie about it to get their leg over Shame they are cowards and cant be honest Who are YOU to decide when somebody should come out? "Don't you love that we are so often told to be honest and open about our sexuality by people who keep the fact that they're swingers a secret. Ironic or what? | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality" What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. " I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better | |||
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"Ladies I am wondering what the opinion is of women on bi or bi curious guys... many women won't meet these type of guys but are happy to meet/talk with bi/bi curious women even if their straight.. There seems to be a real stigma surrounding guys of these sexualitys and just wondered why that was? " LOVE bi men | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality" A man who is physically sick if another man touches him needs a good therapist I think. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality A man who is physically sick if another man touches him needs a good therapist I think. " That is just your opinion. Straight men do not want to be touched in a sexual sense by other men. Those who do not mind, aren't straight | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better" I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me" I think you are wrong. There isn't any sliding scale for straight people. Bisexual people may or may not be on some sliding scale. I don't know about that | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me I think you are wrong. There isn't any sliding scale for straight people. Bisexual people may or may not be on some sliding scale. I don't know about that" There is a Kinsey scale but you can be a 1 which means exclusively heterosexual which I would put myself in that category. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me I think you are wrong. There isn't any sliding scale for straight people. Bisexual people may or may not be on some sliding scale. I don't know about that There is a Kinsey scale but you can be a 1 which means exclusively heterosexual which I would put myself in that category." I think that the 'sliding scale' mentioned here is not the Kinsey Scale which states that people are either heterosexual, homosexual or somewhere in between On FabS threads it is usually meant that *nobody* is straight; everyone is bisexual to some degree or another. And that is absolute nonsense | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better" If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me I think you are wrong. There isn't any sliding scale for straight people. Bisexual people may or may not be on some sliding scale. I don't know about that There is a Kinsey scale but you can be a 1 which means exclusively heterosexual which I would put myself in that category. I think that the 'sliding scale' mentioned here is not the Kinsey Scale which states that people are either heterosexual, homosexual or somewhere in between On FabS threads it is usually meant that *nobody* is straight; everyone is bisexual to some degree or another. And that is absolute nonsense" oh the fantasy fab scale  | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. " As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better I think everyone is on a bi scale somewhere and I am not a gay man having a fantasy. I rarely play with other women at clubs as often I find bi women very pushy. My bi man doesn't play too often with men and neither of us fancy every other man or woman we meet. I agree with the getting naked thing though, I don't get naked in clubs as I don't want strange random men or women touching or seeing me I think you are wrong. There isn't any sliding scale for straight people. Bisexual people may or may not be on some sliding scale. I don't know about that There is a Kinsey scale but you can be a 1 which means exclusively heterosexual which I would put myself in that category. I think that the 'sliding scale' mentioned here is not the Kinsey Scale which states that people are either heterosexual, homosexual or somewhere in between On FabS threads it is usually meant that *nobody* is straight; everyone is bisexual to some degree or another. And that is absolute nonsense oh the fantasy fab scale "Yep; the FabS 'straight' man | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting?" I am not comfortable around straight men in a sexual setting .... bi men all the way | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting?" It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. " I am sure you are correct about the 1-6. But whatever the scale, on FabS it is misrepresented as somehow proving that *nobody* in the world is 100% heterosexual and that *everyone* is bisexual to some extent That is just wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. I am sure you are correct about the 1-6. But whatever the scale, on FabS it is misrepresented as somehow proving that *nobody* in the world is 100% heterosexual and that *everyone* is bisexual to some extent That is just wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men" Wasn't trying to be too pedantic just thought you would get pulled on it quickly. Oh I agree completely and it is false hope. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. I am sure you are correct about the 1-6. But whatever the scale, on FabS it is misrepresented as somehow proving that *nobody* in the world is 100% heterosexual and that *everyone* is bisexual to some extent That is just wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men" Or women? | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting?" Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. I am sure you are correct about the 1-6. But whatever the scale, on FabS it is misrepresented as somehow proving that *nobody* in the world is 100% heterosexual and that *everyone* is bisexual to some extent That is just wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men Or women?" That is possible too, however, I have not noticed any bisexual or lesbian women using that argument | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? It's actually 1-6 so even the Kinsey scale isn't as broad as some think. I am sure you are correct about the 1-6. But whatever the scale, on FabS it is misrepresented as somehow proving that *nobody* in the world is 100% heterosexual and that *everyone* is bisexual to some extent That is just wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men Or women? That is possible too, however, I have not noticed any bisexual or lesbian women using that argument" Maybe they don't need to. How many profiles have you seen excluding bisexual women? | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse." Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought" I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. " It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right | |||
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" I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. " But the point is, it isn't an argument and it can't be sensible or ridiculous. It's someones personal feeling about what excites them sexually. Trying to convince someone to be not turned off by something doesn't make sense. Many women have posted on these threads saying the thought of a guy being involved with another man turns them off that guy. Others love the idea. Both are equally valid. They are sexual emotions. There isn't a right and a wrong. | |||
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"Has anyone noticed how many bisexual women there are on fab compared to how many bisexual men there are? Is our society a society that sees sex between two women as erotic and sex between men as disgusting? If it were the other way around I bet the ratio of bisexual women to bisexual men would swap with it. " I agree with you on this one The reason for this could be something to do with, "eeeewwww, bum sex". Whether that is true or not, that is the general perception of bisexual men Generally, the most bisexual sexual act between two women, is oral sex. Generally, in my limited experience, it stops at caressing and kissing, which is considered "not too bad" | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right" You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. | |||
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On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. " I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5 | |||
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"Has anyone noticed how many bisexual women there are on fab compared to how many bisexual men there are? Is our society a society that sees sex between two women as erotic and sex between men as disgusting? If it were the other way around I bet the ratio of bisexual women to bisexual men would swap with it. I agree with you on this one The reason for this could be something to do with, "eeeewwww, bum sex". Whether that is true or not, that is the general perception of bisexual men Generally, the most bisexual sexual act between two women, is oral sex. Generally, in my limited experience, it stops at caressing and kissing, which is considered "not too bad"" Strange one of the biggest complaints about bi nights from women who go there to see bi action is that there's not much anal. Amazing how reality disagrees with perception. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5 "I didn't state that you were defending her. I stated you were defending her ignorance. She wasn't expressing her preference. She was dogmatically regurgitating urban legend as if it were fact. My experience of male bisexuality is that it's mainly oral. This is based on what I see at a bisexual evening once a month. As for being on that scale there is at least one accademic study which suggests that most people would be bisexual if not for repression and other factors such as lack of sexual opportunity. 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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5
I didn't state that you were defending her. I stated you were defending her ignorance. She wasn't expressing her preference. She was dogmatically regurgitating urban legend as if it were fact. My experience of male bisexuality is that it's mainly oral. This is based on what I see at a bisexual evening once a month.
As for being on that scale there is at least one accademic study which suggests that most people would be bisexual if not for repression and other factors such as lack of sexual opportunity. Freud believed in innate bisexuality so it's not a totally unheard of viewpoint."I haven't seen much male bisexual 'action' but when I have, it too was oral sex. Perceptions are generally not based on reality; these are usually extrapolated by she said this and he said that Freud believed in lots of things; sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; a Cancer-promoting device | |||
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I'd say very very few people are truly one end or the other. Most just don't act on it.
How do you know this if they don't act on it?"Social conditioning keeps people from doing so, either way. There are numerous studies on innate bisexuality. On homophobes too http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7816390 | |||
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"I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I do, I think sexuality is on a continuum and some of us are at the very ends of straight or gay
I'd say very very few people are truly one end or the other. Most just don't act on it.
How do you know this if they don't act on it?
Social conditioning keeps people from doing so, either way.
There are numerous studies on innate bisexuality. On homophobes too
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them?" Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us | |||
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"I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I do, I think sexuality is on a continuum and some of us are at the very ends of straight or gay
I'd say very very few people are truly one end or the other. Most just don't act on it.
How do you know this if they don't act on it?
Social conditioning keeps people from doing so, either way.
There are numerous studies on innate bisexuality. On homophobes too
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7816390
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"Has anyone noticed how many bisexual women there are on fab compared to how many bisexual men there are? Is our society a society that sees sex between two women as erotic and sex between men as disgusting? If it were the other way around I bet the ratio of bisexual women to bisexual men would swap with it. I agree with you on this one The reason for this could be something to do with, "eeeewwww, bum sex". Whether that is true or not, that is the general perception of bisexual men Generally, the most bisexual sexual act between two women, is oral sex. Generally, in my limited experience, it stops at caressing and kissing, which is considered "not too bad" Strange one of the biggest complaints about bi nights from women who go there to see bi action is that there's not much anal. Amazing how reality disagrees with perception." We have been to loads and hardly ever see any at mainstream clubs bi nights ....that is the reality | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? " I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true | |||
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I'd say very very few people are truly one end or the other. Most just don't act on it.
How do you know this if they don't act on it?
Social conditioning keeps people from doing so, either way.
There are numerous studies on innate bisexuality. On homophobes too
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7816390
Hufffpost! Yes, very 'scientific'
Can only post news links here, hence the link reporting on three different university studies. Though not Sydney University. Would that be acceptable? "No, it would not be as these 'studies' are generally biased and out to prove or disprove something. These are simply an extrapolation of a small sample and are based on what those people say and they could be lying or exaggerating Better approach is to ask someone about their sexuality and believe what they tell you. They know their sexuality better than you know their sexuality | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5
I didn't state that you were defending her. I stated you were defending her ignorance. She wasn't expressing her preference. She was dogmatically regurgitating urban legend as if it were fact. My experience of male bisexuality is that it's mainly oral. This is based on what I see at a bisexual evening once a month.
As for being on that scale there is at least one accademic study which suggests that most people would be bisexual if not for repression and other factors such as lack of sexual opportunity. Freud believed in innate bisexuality so it's not a totally unheard of viewpoint.
I haven't seen much male bisexual 'action' but when I have, it too was oral sex. Perceptions are generally not based on reality; these are usually extrapolated by she said this and he said that
Freud believed in lots of things; sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; a Cancer-promoting device "It is bi oral only because it is still not acceptable in clubs, especially where women like to be the focus of attention, that men can play. Many women and couples are outraged when they see anal sex between men and so it is not acceptable at a club. It happens, but not in these mainstream clubs. We are very picky which bi events we go to, and we go to ones where male bi play is not limited to oral but can also include anal | |||
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"I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I do, I think sexuality is on a continuum and some of us are at the very ends of straight or gay
I'd say very very few people are truly one end or the other. Most just don't act on it.
How do you know this if they don't act on it?
Social conditioning keeps people from doing so, either way.
There are numerous studies on innate bisexuality. On homophobes too
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/7816390
Hufffpost! Yes, very 'scientific'
Can only post news links here, hence the link reporting on three different university studies. Though not Sydney University. Would that be acceptable?
No, it would not be as these 'studies' are generally biased and out to prove or disprove something. These are simply an extrapolation of a small sample and are based on what those people say and they could be lying or exaggerating
Better approach is to ask someone about their sexuality and believe what they tell you. They know their sexuality better than you know their sexuality"The Sydney ref was a joke. I should have added a winky smile I guess. | |||
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"Bisexual men, by definition are attracted to other men too. Some straight men do not want to be naked and in close proximity with them, as in a threesome. It is not 'prejudice'; it is their preference and their right and they exercise that right Some straight men feel physically sick if another man touches them; more so if it is known that he is bisexual. It doesn't matter if "males of these couples" are sexy or not to other men Frankly, I don't think that having a sense of 'entitlement' which is displayed on these threads by some, helps them win any arguments Granted that we do not know in a club whether a man is bisexual or not. But we do know from their profiles here. In a club we state that we are only looking for straight men and hope that he isn't lying about his sexuality What I am going to tell you now is going to horrify you. My girlfriend and I go to clubs and swing and I DON'T wear a sign around my neck confessing that I am bi!!! On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5
I didn't state that you were defending her. I stated you were defending her ignorance. She wasn't expressing her preference. She was dogmatically regurgitating urban legend as if it were fact. My experience of male bisexuality is that it's mainly oral. This is based on what I see at a bisexual evening once a month.
As for being on that scale there is at least one accademic study which suggests that most people would be bisexual if not for repression and other factors such as lack of sexual opportunity. Freud believed in innate bisexuality so it's not a totally unheard of viewpoint.
I haven't seen much male bisexual 'action' but when I have, it too was oral sex. Perceptions are generally not based on reality; these are usually extrapolated by she said this and he said that
Freud believed in lots of things; sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; a Cancer-promoting device
It is bi oral only because it is still not acceptable in clubs, especially where women like to be the focus of attention, that men can play. Many women and couples are outraged when they see anal sex between men and so it is not acceptable at a club. It happens, but not in these mainstream clubs. We are very picky which bi events we go to, and we go to ones where male bi play is not limited to oral but can also include anal "I think (infact, I know) that most mainstream clubs do not permit male bisexual acts on their premises. What I saw was at private parties. But as I stated, male bisexual sex is a turn-off for me so I don't go to places where this happens and therefore accept what you say. But then you are stating that the perception is correct. And as I said earlier, that *may be* the reason for the negativity from the majority of heterosexual people | |||
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On top of that we swing with other couples without them ever knowing that I am bi!!! Everyone has fun. It's terrible. There's a common belief that no one is completely straight and that we're all on a sliding scale. If they're right you're pretty screwed. I am not 'horrified'. I would like to think that when we meet a man in a club and after the usual conversation indicate that we are only interested in straight men, he would, if bisexual, have the decency to decline our invitation to join us These sliding scales are just gay men's fantasies. You believe in whatever you want to believe in if it makes you feel better If someone asks me if I'm bi I am honest and tell them. But I don't introduce myself and say hi I'm bob I'm bi just the same way as I don't tell them how many people I've had sex with before I met them. The scale I am refering to is the Kinsey scale which was developed after one of the largest sex surveys ever done. I don't need to feel better about anything. I am comfortable with who I am even if you aren't. As I explained earlier, the Kinsey Sacle is 1 heterosexual, 10 homosexual and then some people are somewhere in between. It does not state that nobody is 100% straight and that everyone is bisexual. That is where the Gay man's fantasy takes over in thinking that everyone is bisexual to some degree or another I am comfortable with who you are. Are you comfortable with the fact that some straight men do not want bisexual men in a sexual setting? Males do not represent two discrete populations, heterosexual and homosexual. The world is not to be divided into sheep and goats - guess who? I've stated it over and over are you just ignoring that? I don't have time to spend with all the people who love that I am bi. Why would I waste it on someone I disgust? I am not propsing that I force myself on straight men. The topic of this thread is why do some people say they won't meet bi men. My answer is some people are like you and it's just not your thing. But others are anti bi because they believe ridiculous things based on the actions of a few. I go to bi night every month and have a good laugh at those dogmatic statements as they are disproven en masse. Correct. Men and women are either heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual. Bisexual people do not 'disgust' me. Being bisexual myself, I like meeting bisexual men and women, when on my own What you have failed to accept is that some of what you think are 'ridiculous things' are not ridiculous at all. Some straight men do not want the company of a bisexual man in a sexual environment and in close proximity. Some don't want it at all; some decide that they do not want it after an unpleasant experience That is not anti-bi just as a previous poster who will not meet straight men, is not anti-straight; that is just her preference and her right; no justification from her is sought I have said on numerous occasions that I accept and respect that some straight men don't want to be involved with a guy who has had experiences with other men. But take for example a woman who says I don't want to suck a cock that's been in another guys bum. Lets examine that. Well firstly a lot of bi guys won't do anal. What about men who put their penises in womens bums? Is there a huge difference? It's a ridiculous argument yet that's one of the reasons I have been given. It is not the reason why, as a couple, we won't meet bisexual men. I don't have the reason you have cited. The woman stating that reason is probably the best person to explain why she feels that way But I would hazard a guess and think that bisexual men are a turn-off for her. Whilst I meet bisexual men when on my own and when he is by himself, I do not desire to watch two bisexual men have any kind of sex with each other We all have different preferences and all those preferences are valid in their own right You can defend her ignorance to the death or you can accept that she only believed it because someone else said it. That was just one example in a multitide of examples. Back to the Kinsey scale. It might only be marked 1-6 but Kinsey himself described it as a continuum. You might be at one extreme or the other but you're still on that scale. I am not defending her as nobody needs to be defended. If that is what she thinks then that is her right. Like said earlier by another poster, sexual preferences do not need to be rational nor need to be explained I wouldn't call the two points (1 and 6) as 'extremes'. These are simply denoting 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality (or 100% homosexuality and 100% heterosexuality). And yes, it must be a continuum for the people in-between the two points; I don't think bisexual people are only 2, 3, 4 and 5; there must be 2.1, 2.11, 2.115, etc too. I think I am a 3.5
I didn't state that you were defending her. I stated you were defending her ignorance. She wasn't expressing her preference. She was dogmatically regurgitating urban legend as if it were fact. My experience of male bisexuality is that it's mainly oral. This is based on what I see at a bisexual evening once a month.
As for being on that scale there is at least one accademic study which suggests that most people would be bisexual if not for repression and other factors such as lack of sexual opportunity. Freud believed in innate bisexuality so it's not a totally unheard of viewpoint.
I haven't seen much male bisexual 'action' but when I have, it too was oral sex. Perceptions are generally not based on reality; these are usually extrapolated by she said this and he said that
Freud believed in lots of things; sometimes a cigar is just a cigar; a Cancer-promoting device
It is bi oral only because it is still not acceptable in clubs, especially where women like to be the focus of attention, that men can play. Many women and couples are outraged when they see anal sex between men and so it is not acceptable at a club. It happens, but not in these mainstream clubs. We are very picky which bi events we go to, and we go to ones where male bi play is not limited to oral but can also include anal
I think (infact, I know) that most mainstream clubs do not permit male bisexual acts on their premises. What I saw was at private parties. But as I stated, male bisexual sex is a turn-off for me so I don't go to places where this happens and therefore accept what you say. But then you are stating that the perception is correct. And as I said earlier, that *may be* the reason for the negativity from the majority of heterosexual people"So which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? We avoid these mainstream clubs for this reason. To be honest, nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?"
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true I am straight and accept there is a spectrum. It scales from 0 to 6, but are you saying you only think it goes from 0.5 to 6? MrB" I didn't say the increments were 0.5, they may be hundredths or thousandths? Seriously though, I think one statement is as ridiculous as the other, but some people find one so much more acceptable without thinking through the implications | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex"Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces. | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true You have proof of this or is this just another opinion of yours? Depends .... do you have proof to back up your opinion? Is it just me on this thread that has an opinion, or everyone? I am feeling it is getting personal again Yes, I do. Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? I don't understand what you mean by 'personal'. I asked a question in response to your unverified statement "just another opinion of yours" sound pretty personal to me. Well, I can't see the difference from someone saying bi male fantasy is that all men have an element of bi ... and the reverse which is straight men fantasy is that not all men have an element of bi. Flipping your own opinion back at you .... how does it sound? " I believe when bisexual men say that they are bisexual; I don't suggest that they are liars and are actually straight So, what makes you think that straight men are lying when they say that they are straight | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces. "Who said Bi men were lepers? That statement makes no sense | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true You have proof of this or is this just another opinion of yours? Depends .... do you have proof to back up your opinion? Is it just me on this thread that has an opinion, or everyone? I am feeling it is getting personal again Yes, I do. Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? I don't understand what you mean by 'personal'. I asked a question in response to your unverified statement "just another opinion of yours" sound pretty personal to me. Well, I can't see the difference from someone saying bi male fantasy is that all men have an element of bi ... and the reverse which is straight men fantasy is that not all men have an element of bi. Flipping your own opinion back at you .... how does it sound? I believe when bisexual men say that they are bisexual; I don't suggest that they are liars and are actually straight So, what makes you think that straight men are lying when they say that they are straight" I think sexuality is fluid, changes over a lifetime and due to circumstances of the play | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true You have proof of this or is this just another opinion of yours? Depends .... do you have proof to back up your opinion? Is it just me on this thread that has an opinion, or everyone? I am feeling it is getting personal again Yes, I do. Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? I don't understand what you mean by 'personal'. I asked a question in response to your unverified statement "just another opinion of yours" sound pretty personal to me. Well, I can't see the difference from someone saying bi male fantasy is that all men have an element of bi ... and the reverse which is straight men fantasy is that not all men have an element of bi. Flipping your own opinion back at you .... how does it sound? " Oh, by the way, straight men do not fantasise about whether other men are straight or not; they have no interest in other men | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense"Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it .... | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces. "Now I am confused. Where did anyone suggest that bisexual men are 'lepers'? | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true You have proof of this or is this just another opinion of yours? Depends .... do you have proof to back up your opinion? Is it just me on this thread that has an opinion, or everyone? I am feeling it is getting personal again Yes, I do. Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? I don't understand what you mean by 'personal'. I asked a question in response to your unverified statement "just another opinion of yours" sound pretty personal to me. Well, I can't see the difference from someone saying bi male fantasy is that all men have an element of bi ... and the reverse which is straight men fantasy is that not all men have an element of bi. Flipping your own opinion back at you .... how does it sound? Oh, by the way, straight men do not fantasise about whether other men are straight or not; they have no interest in other men " So no straight man fantasies about another straight man fucking his wife/gf | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true I am straight and accept there is a spectrum. It scales from 0 to 6, but are you saying you only think it goes from 0.5 to 6? MrB I didn't say the increments were 0.5, they may be hundredths or thousandths? Seriously though, I think one statement is as ridiculous as the other, but some people find one so much more acceptable without thinking through the implications" I didn't mean the increments. It goes from 0 to 6. Therefore you can be 0 or 6. I.e completely straight or completely homosexual or anywhere inbetween, but either 'extreme' is on the scale. | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Now I am confused. Where did anyone suggest that bisexual men are 'lepers'?"It is an analogy? If they aren't allowed to indulge in male on male play in mainstream clubs for fear of offending the mainstream straight clientele, how exactly should they be termed? Welcome? | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true You have proof of this or is this just another opinion of yours? Depends .... do you have proof to back up your opinion? Is it just me on this thread that has an opinion, or everyone? I am feeling it is getting personal again Yes, I do. Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? I don't understand what you mean by 'personal'. I asked a question in response to your unverified statement "just another opinion of yours" sound pretty personal to me. Well, I can't see the difference from someone saying bi male fantasy is that all men have an element of bi ... and the reverse which is straight men fantasy is that not all men have an element of bi. Flipping your own opinion back at you .... how does it sound? Oh, by the way, straight men do not fantasise about whether other men are straight or not; they have no interest in other men " | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it .... "It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs" | |||
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" wishful thinking by some gay and bisexual men You keep repeating this. I think you flatter yourself. Not all gay/ bi men want to fuck every man alive. I'm a woman and do not believe for one second that anyone is 100% straight or gay. Is that my wishful thinking? I think it is wishful thinking by some straight men that some men are one hundred percent straight. It's not true I am straight and accept there is a spectrum. It scales from 0 to 6, but are you saying you only think it goes from 0.5 to 6? MrB I didn't say the increments were 0.5, they may be hundredths or thousandths? Seriously though, I think one statement is as ridiculous as the other, but some people find one so much more acceptable without thinking through the implications I didn't mean the increments. It goes from 0 to 6. Therefore you can be 0 or 6. I.e completely straight or completely homosexual or anywhere inbetween, but either 'extreme' is on the scale." That is just one measurement scale, one example .... one way of labelling people | |||
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"Ladies I am wondering what the opinion is of women on bi or bi curious guys... many women won't meet these type of guys but are happy to meet/talk with bi/bi curious women even if their straight.. There seems to be a real stigma surrounding guys of these sexualitys and just wondered why that was? " My wife likes bi guys but finds bi gals a pain. | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs""Do you really think most people don't want to see it? | |||
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" Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? " Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. | |||
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" Oh, by the way, straight men do not fantasise about whether other men are straight or not; they have no interest in other men So no straight man fantasies about another straight man fucking his wife/gf" That doesn't automatically infer any bisexuality in either of the men. | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs"
Do you really think most people don't want to see it? "Ask the club owners if most people want to see it. If most want to see it then the clubs would surely want to let more bisexual men have sex with each other on their premises. It will mean more revenue for them You wrote: "Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? " | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs"
Do you really think most people don't want to see it?
Ask the club owners if most people want to see it. If most want to see it then the clubs would surely want to let more bisexual men have sex with each other on their premises. It will mean more revenue for them
You wrote: "Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? "
"So I have asked the question ... be interested to see if it is actually banned at clubs. Not all people go to clubs to be seen though. Most male on male play we have been involved in has been behind closed doors | |||
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"Was about to back out this thread but just saw this Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. " So, you are suggesting that most bisexual men are liars? But then these are not straight men. You are proving my point | |||
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" Oh, by the way, straight men do not fantasise about whether other men are straight or not; they have no interest in other men So no straight man fantasies about another straight man fucking his wife/gf That doesn't automatically infer any bisexuality in either of the men." But their fantasy is a hetero one, hence the man is performing a 'straight' sex act | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs"
Do you really think most people don't want to see it?
Ask the club owners if most people want to see it. If most want to see it then the clubs would surely want to let more bisexual men have sex with each other on their premises. It will mean more revenue for them
You wrote: "Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? "
So I have asked the question ... be interested to see if it is actually banned at clubs. Not all people go to clubs to be seen though. Most male on male play we have been involved in has been behind closed doors"But if it is not banned, then what is the point you are making? | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs"
Do you really think most people don't want to see it?
Ask the club owners if most people want to see it. If most want to see it then the clubs would surely want to let more bisexual men have sex with each other on their premises. It will mean more revenue for them
You wrote: "Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? "
So I have asked the question ... be interested to see if it is actually banned at clubs. Not all people go to clubs to be seen though. Most male on male play we have been involved in has been behind closed doors
But if it is not banned, then what is the point you are making?"I am investigating, not point scoring | |||
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"Was about to back out this thread but just saw this Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. So, you are suggesting that most bisexual men are liars? But then these are not straight men. You are proving my point" I'm suggesting that believing people because they tell you something does not make it so. Not all straight men are 'straight'. | |||
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"Was about to back out this thread but just saw this Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. So, you are suggesting that most bisexual men are liars? But then these are not straight men. You are proving my point I'm suggesting that believing people because they tell you something does not make it so. Not all straight men are 'straight'. " Straight men are straight. Straight men who have sex with other men are not straight. It is quite simple, really | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?
There are places for bisexual men to visit. Not everyone wants to see two men having sex just as not everyone wants to see 'vanilla' heterosexual sex
Bi men are the lepers of the swingers world then? Thank goodness .... as those vanilla sex acts shoved in their faces.
Who said Bi men were lepers?
That statement makes no sense
Because male on male play is banned in mainstream vanilla clubs because certain people don't want to see it ....
It is not some people who do not want ito see it; it is the majority who do not want to see it; just like you stated that "nothing turns me off more than seeing the vanilla sex that goes on in these vanilla clubs"
Do you really think most people don't want to see it?
Ask the club owners if most people want to see it. If most want to see it then the clubs would surely want to let more bisexual men have sex with each other on their premises. It will mean more revenue for them
You wrote: "Is it the club goers who dont want to see it or the clubs that don't want to allow it ... whose attitude drives it? "
So I have asked the question ... be interested to see if it is actually banned at clubs. Not all people go to clubs to be seen though. Most male on male play we have been involved in has been behind closed doors
But if it is not banned, then what is the point you are making?
I am investigating, not point scoring"I didn't think that anyone on this thread was 'point scoring' neither did anyone, apart from yourself, suggest it So, what are you investigating? | |||
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"Was about to back out this thread but just saw this Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. So, you are suggesting that most bisexual men are liars? But then these are not straight men. You are proving my point I'm suggesting that believing people because they tell you something does not make it so. Not all straight men are 'straight'. Straight men are straight. Straight men who have sex with other men are not straight. It is quite simple, really" Hang on, you said the way to know someone is straight is to ask them. It's clearly not. You're making no sense and not listening. Enjoy the rest of your evening | |||
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"Was about to back out this thread but just saw this Straight men say that they are straight and I have no reason to suggest that they are not What is your reason to suggest that they are not? Are you serious? Most of the men I play with are bisexual. But list themselves here and tell folk when asked that they're straight. Yes it's dishonest but they stay in the closet because of judgment. Because they're catering to their current audience. Amazing that the mainstream sees us here as sexual deviants or libertines but actually, just as narrow minded as them out there. So, you are suggesting that most bisexual men are liars? But then these are not straight men. You are proving my point I'm suggesting that believing people because they tell you something does not make it so. Not all straight men are 'straight'. Straight men are straight. Straight men who have sex with other men are not straight. It is quite simple, really Hang on, you said the way to know someone is straight is to ask them. It's clearly not. You're making no sense and not listening. Enjoy the rest of your evening "And you said said that bisexual men lie about their sexuality I said that straight men don't You have a nice evening too | |||
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"Why are bi men so hung up on wanting to have sex with women that have no sexual interest in them? Because we are hoplessly attracted to stupid ignorant people? Actually I wasn't aware that this is an attribite particular to all bi men. Thanks for enlightening us
Enlightened in what way?
I'm merely asking why so many bi men, obviously not all,but judging by the amount of threads here on fab,there are a hell of a lot of bi sexual men bemoaning the fact some women have no interest in them sexually.
So I'm asking why?
Why do they want sex with someone that has no sexual interest in them?
Or is it only bi men allowed a lifestyle choice?"If you had said 'some bi men' I might have agreed with you. But you didn't you just said 'bi' men. You have made a dogmatic statement saying that I do something that I don't. You must excuse my need to point out that you are wrong. There is a misconception that bi men need to have a guy in the equation to enjoy sex. This isn't true. I am bi yet most of my sexual encounters are hetrosexual. I go to bi nights but even at those bi nights most of my fun is one on one with a lady. Every now and again I have a salad. Am I now a vegetarian? Should I be banned from barbeques? | |||
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Just because these women have not in relationships with heterosexual men but with homosexual or bisexual men instead, does not mean that heterosexual men do not exist! | |||
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